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  • Media hails Obama’s Speech As Call For “New World Order”

    Prisonplanet.com
    Friday, July 25, 2008

    The media hailed Obama’s Berlin speech in front of hundreds of thousands yesterday as a call for a vision of America as part of a “new world order”.

     

    Excerpts from The International Herald Tribune:

    “I come to Berlin as so many of my countrymen have come before,” Obama said, confronting the delicate issue of campaigning abroad. “Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen — a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world.”

    Obama was warmly embraced by the German press, which frequently referred to his aura, or as the newspaper Bild put it in Thursday’s paper, the “political pop star.”

    “Yes, there have been differences between America and Europe,” Obama said. “No doubt, there will be differences in the future. But the burdens of global citizenship continue to bind us together. A change of leadership in Washington will not lift this burden. In this new century, Americans and Europeans alike will be required to do more — not less. Partnership and cooperation among nations is not a choice; it is the one way, the only way, to protect our common security and advance our common humanity.”


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    126 Responses to “Media hails Obama’s Speech As Call For “New World Order””

    1. Rob Says:

      No freaking way. He didn’t just say what I think he did…did he?

    2. DEEP RED Says:

      No Rob, he did not!!! Obama, never said (NEW WORLD ORDER) during this speech.

      See this is a bunch of crap—ALARMIST reporting. Look I don’t like the guy and will not vote for any of them, “BUT” in all fairness he did not speak the word’s (NEW WORLD ORDER).

      The title of this article is another that is “VERY” mis-leading!

    3. abraxasproductions Says:

      shoddy reporting. where is the quote?

    4. HE_DoubleHockeySticks NO Says:

      The title is misleading. Obama’s statements appear to be code word from being members of the New World Order but he never said the phrase “New World Order”. The title of the article is a bit alarmist.
      But, you can definitely read between the lines though.

    5. allahakbar Says:

      we have enough evidence ALREADY linking obama to the nwo. WE DON’T HAVE TO LIE AND SAY HE SAID THINGS HE DIDN’T!!!

      THIS WAS THE MOST BLATANT SPEACH ABOUT THE FUTURE TRAJECTORY OF HUMANITY THAT I’VE EEEEEEEEEEVER SEEEN!!!! NO NEED TO ADD CHILLI SAUCE ITS SPICY ENOUGH!!!

    6. HE_DoubleHockeySticks NO Says:

      Well the phrase global citizenry is the same as NWO to me.
      So the title is accurate enough to me after re-watching the video. Obama’s speech was about joining the effort to bind America to the global citizenry and being required to participate. That is the New World Order.

    7. josh deaver Says:

      Obama is worse that McCain, he has a mass movement behind him. This is something that could allow Obama to accomplish much more than McLame simply because of the force of his dupe-a-mobs. I hope when Alex has W.G Tarpley on we can get some real analysis on Obama

    8. JonTheSavage Says:

      I believe what he said was worse than saying NWO. :(

    9. DEEP RED Says:

      So global citizenry, mean’s the same as (NEW WORLD ORDER)?

      How do you figure? Global citizenry—all human’s live on earth.

      So I gues anything that politician’s say is code for something else.

      BAD REPORTING PEOPLE!!! this is the type of thing that hurt’s your cause, one article like this (BLOW’S ALL CREDIBILITY TO YOUR NEW WORLD ORDER THEORY). Your average Joe visit’s this site with interest, comes upon this article then quickly see’s it as an obvious fear mongering tactic. “SYNOPSIS” another conspiracy theory site that cannot provide any proof.

      Yeah this kinda reporting is fantastic!!! this is total proof something is going on.

    10. smarty Says:

      “Partnership among nations” – there’s your quote, at the bottom of the article. Less bite than “NWO”, but same idea. My question is who organized hundreds of thousands of people to come here his speech? I can’t ever remember such a large gathering in the USA to hear a Presidential candidate make a speech.

    11. admin Says:

      Try having more than a 4 second attention span and watch the video. It is the reporter who dubs Obama’s speech a call for a “New World Order”.

    12. JonTheSavage Says:

      I think it is time for an old fashioned witch hanging. Lets storm Bohemian Grove. :)

    13. David Lee Says:

      May I just point out he headline is 100% accurate.

      “Media hails Obama’s Speech As Call For “New World Order”

      Which is true because that is what the news anchor said at the very begining. Nobody ever said that Obama mentioned those words. I suggest that people read first and then comment. The media is the voice of these maniacs and this report is not sensational. It is a simple fact that the media is planting these key words like they do all the time. Obama doesn’t have to say it. Global Citizen? That doesn’t concern you in the least? It should.

    14. Illuminated1234 Says:

      Admin… Hello? HE IS NWO. Why do you think he is put in front of us? Wake up quick!

    15. kenj Says:

      Even the name of the article says it…”Media hails Obama’s Speech As Call For New World Order”

    16. anders Says:

      “Media hails Obama’s Speech As Call For “New World Order””
      Wich is what the reporter said at the beggining of the clip, there´s your quote. Don´t see how the title of the article is misleading.
      A bit cheesey with the star wars soundtrack though.

    17. sladjan Says:

      DEEP RED, I agree to some extent with what you’re saying, but it is the meaning in Obamas speech that counts, not the exact formulation.

      I agree however that there is no need for us to exagerate anything, because the truth is so bizare all by itself.

    18. Vern Says:

      http://www.primetarget.org did a small story on it as well. That site operates from Bermuda!

    19. Aqua Teen Hunger Force Says:

      Qoute(DEEP RED
      July 25,2008

      So global citizenry, mean’s the same as (NEW WORLD ORDER)?

      How do you figure? Global citizenry—all human’s live on earth.

      So I gues anything that politician’s say is code for something else.

      BAD REPORTING PEOPLE!!! this is the type of thing that hurt’s your cause, one article like this (BLOW’S ALL CREDIBILITY TO YOUR NEW WORLD ORDER THEORY). Your average Joe visit’s this site with interest, comes upon this article then quickly see’s it as an obvious fear mongering tactic. “SYNOPSIS” another conspiracy theory site that cannot provide any proof.

      Yeah this kinda reporting is fantastic!!! this is total proof something is going on.)endqoute

      And you are a perfect example of the dumbed down populace that Obama and his ilk are proud to call “a fellow citizen of the NWO!”

    20. Aqua Teen Hunger Force Says:

      Opps, I meant to say,”a fellow citizen of the WORLD”
      DOES THAT FEEL BETTER,DEEP RED & SLADJAN?

    21. Chuck Says:

      So if Obama doesn’t say, “new world order” in his speeches, he isn’t in with them? Hahahahaha!

      Let’s review. He went to Harvard. An Illuminati school. If Obama is elected (and let’s face it, it will be hard for McInsane to win), we will have had a Harvard or Yale graduate as president and or vice president for 32 years straight. You think it’s all just coincidence? And of course, some fool out there is going to say, “well aren’t those schools just the best schools, and shouldn’t we have smart people leading us?” Quotes like that just tell everyone that you have no idea what is happening on your own planet. You are trapped in the Matrix. Seek help and try to deprogram your brainwashed mind. These schools exist so that there will always be an elite running this planet.

      Obama’s a member of the CFR. They ARE the NWO. Here is Obama obviously lying his ass off about the CFR and NAU that is about to be shoved up your butts:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEnuhSScLgc

      Oh, and prove that he isn’t a member of a one world globalist conspiracy.

      Oh, and prove there is NO conspiracy by a global elite to manipulate, control, and enslave the population of this planet.

      Good luck! Just because you don’t want to believe it, doesn’t make it untrue. And it’s happening. Deny it all you want.

      What do you think this statue represents?
      http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00962.html

      And also, why is it so hard finding out who’s on his campaign staff and or what there background is? Someone send me a link.

    22. Bob Says:

      oh man…. i totally agree… there is virtually no difference between republican and democrat, we know this already… but one of them now has an absolute cult like status. this is scary people! this is how Hitler happened. sounds extreme but it’s not. even people in my own country (not the US) have this weird obsessive infatuation with Obama… all the papers, etc. it’s almost as if bush was such a monumental fuck-up on purpose……………..

    23. Hemp4Life Says:

      From Wiki-Pedia:

      The phrase Novus Ordo Seclorum (Latin for “New Order of the Ages”) appears on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States, first designed in 1782…

      As usual we where right Obama is NWO trash. Even Alex thought he may be legit at one point but quickly changed his position.

    24. Peaceful American Says:

      Why should we have to sign treaties or agreements in order to clean up the planet? If we really wanted change our President and our media would be urging communities to get together and clean up trash. They would promote recycling facilities and make them more readily available.
      We should not need to sign over the morals of our nation to some multinational partnership. The real change starts when people STOP littering, and START picking up trash where you see it. And tell your friends to do the same. Government programs cannot replace the collective moral conscience of the people.
      Or at least I don’t think so.

      The more the We the People get involved the more power we will get back. Sounds good to me.

    25. WeAreChangeBrisbane Says:

      This is the beginning.

      McCain doesn’t talk like that. I believe Obama has been confirmed.

      Who’d of thought that now, being 21 I’d see the start of the New World Order coming into view!

      I can’t even obtain a gun, it’s against the law!

    26. Robin Chase Says:

      Did any of the those commenting watch the speech in full! I can assure you that it was a stunningly historic speech. Obama is truly a world class leader. Maybe he is the “Lion King” personified.
      Isn’t everyone looking for a leader who can motivate and inspire us in our quest for attainability?

      From the day we arrive on the planet
      And blinking, step into the sun
      There’s more to see than can ever be seen
      More to do than can ever be done
      There’s far too much to take in here
      More to find than can ever be found
      But the sun rolling high
      Through the sapphire sky
      Keeps great and small on the endless round

      It’s the Circle of Life
      And it moves us all
      Through despair and hope
      Through faith and love
      Till we find our place
      On the path unwinding
      In the Circle
      The Circle of Life

    27. Chuck Says:

      DEEP RED…The only thing spinning here is your brain.

      Prove it’s not true.

      You are totally brainwashed. Get some help.

    28. Persephone Says:

      I have a better song for you:

      All our bridges are falling down!
      Falling down! Falling down!
      All our bridges are falling down!
      Let’s ignore it!

    29. Gregory Fegel Says:

      Robin Chase:
      That’s right. Barack Obama is the Lion King, and my dick is Jesus.

    30. Gregory Fegel Says:

      Most of us post here because we believe in freedom and justice. DEEP RED and FK post here because they get paid for it.

    31. FK Says:

      Remember Deep Red….its not their responsibility to prove their wild ass theories, its your job to disprove them.

      Shows how backwards they are…they are the minority (thankfully an extremely small minority) and the ball is in their court to prove to the rest of us that what they say is the truth.

      So, its ok, in my view, if the few of them sit in the corner by themselves.

    32. Linda in RI Says:

      I just can’t get past those purple lips. NEW WORLD ORDER!!!! I asked my Police Chief if he knew what that was. He said “Is it a white supremacy group?” Well I guess it’s sorta correct!

    33. FK Says:

      Gregory

      damn I wish I got paid for this…

      tell you what, if ya’ll say the word…I will leave…and never come back…

      everyone chime in…let me know what you want me to do….

    34. Useless Says:

      There is NO ARGUMENT…THE

    35. Useless Says:

      There is NO ARGUMENT…THE FACT THAT HE’S AN AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE MAKING SPEECHES EVERYWHERE BUT AMERICA IS ENOUGH……

    36. T Moore Says:

      When do the interests of being a global citizen supercede those of being a United States citizen? One is either a citizen of his country or a citizen of the world.

    37. lhkhlh Says:

      FK, you’re stupid. I vote you leave.

    38. Persephone Says:

      Umm….Nelson Mandela, Rockefeller, George Bush, and Barak Obama have all said the phrase “new world order.” Are you implying all of the above are white supremacists?

      The “new world order that is in the making must focus on the creation of a world of democracy, peace and prosperity for all,” Mr. Mandela.

    39. mythicshadow Says:

      Well, when the NWO comes for DEEP RED he’ll see we’re not fooling. And his face will flush a DEEP RED.

    40. FK Says:

      So far:

      1 vote leave

      0 votes stay

      Its close…

    41. myna Says:

      If thats not nwo i’ll eat my hat. As soon as i saw the speech i thought nwo.

    42. Useless Says:

      I vote leave…2 votes leave, 0 votes stay…I change my name and vote leave twice more…4-0, FK, 4-0…

    43. Chuck Says:

      FK…What do the following corporate logos represent?

      BP
      Exxon
      Citgo
      McDonalds
      SunTrust Bank
      Pampers
      TAMIFLU
      McClane
      UBS
      US Consumer Product Safety Commission
      AOL

      That’s just a few. But, of course, you aren’t smart enough to make a connection or see what these logos are, much less where they come from. You think it’s all just an accident. It’s just an accident that gas is $4/gallon under the oil administration. It’s all just an accident that we’re still waiting to see Cheney’s energy policy meeting minutes from early 2001. It’s just an accident that we invaded Afghanistan, a country with vast natural gas resources and the ability to supply 80% plus of the world’s heroin. It’s just an accident that an ex Unicol employee has been hoisted as Prime Minister of Afghanistan. It’s just an accident that this PM, Karzai, was attempting to negotiate a natural gas pipeline with the Afghanistan government before we invaded. It’s just a coincidence that the oil administration invaded the world’s third leading oil exporter. It’s just an accident that our constitution has been eradicated. It’s just an accident that our currency is controlled by criminal private bankers and is currenty in a designed tail spin. It’s just a coincidence that Obama went to Harvard just like Gore and Romney. It’s just a coincidence that in 2004, two bonesmen from Yale were our choice for leader. It’s just an accident that Obama voted for FISA. It’s just an accident that Obama has done nothing to impeach W or Cheney, fight for our rights, or stop globalists from enslaving the human race.

      Ever heard of the CFR, Trilaterals, the Carlyle Group? Ever heard of the WHO? Ever heard of the CDC? Ever heard of the World Bank? Ever head of the WTO? Ever heard of a deep underground military base? Ever heard of a genetically modified virus? Ever heard of Monsanto? Ever heard of Area 51?

      Well, these organizations exist. It cannot be refuted. You are trapped in the Matrix and will, of course, defend it. You are the type of moron the people running this planet love. A moron of epic proportions who talk shit to people that are so beyond your idiotic brain wave activity, it’s just too difficult for you to comprehend.

      Every post I have seen from you on this site is a joke. You are a joke. There is a massive amount of evidence to support the existence of the NWO. If you don’t want to believe it, good. They need sell outs like you.

    44. Linda in RI Says:

      How CAN anyone refute that the NWO is coming when this un-American puppet is spewing it from his purple lips.

    45. T Moore Says:

      Maybe he’s just playing devil’s advocate?

    46. Linda in RI Says:

      DEEP RED is a distraction who is afraid to face the facts.

    47. Linda in RI Says:

      Doesn’t matter who said NWO, they are phasing in the statement for the sheep to be indoctrinated about hearing it. Yes everyone wants to get along with all countries, they will use “the children” and “for your safety” until you are enslaved by them. YOu will march to your enslavement willingly, because our loving Government says it’s “good for you”. So eat it up those in denial, while the news media Talking Head Puppets shove it down your throats.

    48. npd1969 Says:

      Death to that stinking NWO!

    49. Chuck Says:

      DEEP RED…You sense make not. Speak bad Enlissss, no comprehend people other respond you. Others site this make you respond to information left you response. No response make to post left you for so make you that post nonsense bad grammar make. Talk you things about knowing nothing.

      Maybe you could understand that. Based on your English skills and comments, I thought I would dumb down the conversation for you a bit. You are a “mission accomplished” sign for the No Child Left Behind Act. I’ve left you posts with information. Your statements and questions are consistent with someone who is either naive (yes, Evian spelled backwards) or just plain dumb. DEEP RED must describe the hemorrhoid you call your brain.

      So you and FK run along off to AOL and chat about why you’re so misunderstood and how all the people on this site have no idea what they’re talking about.

    50. reptile Says:

      Well if you just ignore all the other things, then this speech isn’t much to worry about. The press talked about nwo not obama, of course saying anything about nwo was crazy talk before. Now the press is using it openly.

      Wouldn’t it be nice if the next pres. Snapped and just spilled the whole story on live tv? I wouldn’t hold my breath… but hey it could happen.

    51. Peak Oil is Real Says:

      Now, this is really dishonest, practically putting Bush Sr.’s words in Obamas mouth in the title. Of course, many will only read the headline, assume Obama said it, and draw the conclusions this editor intended.
      My respect for this website drops every time I visit.

    52. cindy Says:

      Pretty obvious Big Red is on the Payroll!
      And; Get Real people OBAMA IS DEFINATALY PART OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER!
      COME ON PEOPLE DON’T BE SO STUPID!!!
      It’s these CON JOBS that people fall for! –Use your brains for a change!!

    53. cindy Says:

      Pretty obvious DEEP Red is on the Payroll!
      And; Get Real people OBAMA IS DEFINATALY PART OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER!
      COME ON PEOPLE DON’T BE SO STUPID!!!
      It’s these CON JOBS that people fall for! –Use your brains for a change!!

    54. Red Dirt Reporter Says:

      Obama is evil. You can see it in his eyes. Received an email that while he was at Bagram AB in Afghanistan he totally blew off the soldiers and Marines. This guy is all about power and image. With his visage gracing everything these days I feel like I’m in the USSR or some third world banana republic. Scary times, y’all!

    55. Willis Says:

      Obama has always been the anointed one. He is the only candidate with his own logo. The occult symbol of the morning star rising on the horizon. They are always telling what they’re doing in one way or another.

      Symbol literacy.

    56. FK Says:

      I know Chuck…I know…theres a Stormtrooper in every shadow waiting for the right moment to pounce on you and drag you away to a FEMA camp, or maybe put your body in one of those 500,000 coffins in Georgia.

      2 votes leave

      1 vote stay

      the suspense is killing me…

    57. chabib Says:

      The train of the NWO keeps on rolling.

    58. FK Says:

      Chuck…were misunderstood? Your in a group of people who make up a vast, vast minority…the conspiracy theorist’s.

      Anyway….I am about to be voted off the island…ya’ll keep on lurking in the shadows twisting everything…

    59. cindy Says:

      I wonder about FK ALSO
      I vote FK leaves!

    60. neon Says:

      hey check out the Glock “there is no nwo” 17.

      Desert Storm Glock
      This was a 1991 series of 1000 Glock 17s which had special engraving on it. A list of names of all the coalition countries is engraved down the top of the slide; “Operation Desert Storm/January 16-February 27, 1991″ is engraved on the right side. On the left side is “New World Order/Commemorative”.

      The first 15 Desert Storm Glocks were special presentation models and had the special “bright black” finish. The special engraving on these was also slightly altered from the standard. These pistols were supposed to go to:

      UD000US: George Bush, Commander-in-Chief
      UD001US: Gen. H. Norman Schwartzkopf III (Commander-in-Chief, CentCom)
      UD002US: James Baker III (Secy of State)
      UD003US: Gen. Colin Powell (Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff)
      UD004US: Dick Cheney (Secy of Defense)
      UD005US: Brent Scowcroft (National Security Advisor)
      UD006US: Lt. Gen. Thomas Kelly
      UD007US: Lt. Gen. Chuck Horner (Commander, Air Forces, CentCom)
      UD008US: Maj. Gen. Robert B Johnston (Chief-of-Staff, CentCom)
      UD009US: Lt. Gen. Calvin Waller (Dpty Commander-in-Chief, CentCom)
      UD010US: Lt. Gen. Walter Boomer (Commander, I MEF)
      UD011US: Vice Adm. Stanley Arthur (Commander, Naval Forces, CentCom)
      UD012US: Maj. Gen. William “Gus” Pagonis (Chief of Logistics, CentCom)
      UD013US: Brig. Gen. Richard Neal (Operations Ofcr., CentCom)

      hmm obama didn’t get one? PROOF POSITIVE that he is not part of the NWO. ( because everybody knows — there is NO nwo! )

      http://www.glockfaq.com/rare.htm

    61. Timbawulf Says:

      http://www.cfr.org/publication/13172/
      Remarks of Senator Barack Obama to the Chicago Council on Global Affairs, Published April 23, 2007:
      “Whether it’s global terrorism or pandemic disease, dramatic climate change or the proliferation of weapons of mass annihilation, the threats we face at the dawn of the 21st century can no longer be contained by borders and boundaries.”

      “The American moment has not passed. The American moment is here. And like generations before us, we will seize that moment, and begin the world anew. Thank you.”

    62. FK Says:

      Cindy, whats to wonder about?

    63. Teddy Says:

      What’s wrong with working together…that’s what he’s talking about.

    64. aura Says:

      And this is the same media you want us to call to cover the impeachment hearing today!? Talk about double messages.

    65. Randy Says:

      Obama has called for a New World Order without calling it a New World Order. I heard it myself. The same way he is calling for a draft without calling it a draft: national service or some such shi-ite. The same way he is calling for an end to the Iraq war, without calling for an end to the mid-east wars (more troops to Afghanistan). Meet the new boss … same as the old boss. Wake up Obama-maniacs!

    66. Chuck Says:

      FK…”were misunderstood?” It’s we are or we’re. You are not a brainiac. You are not from the planet Smartron.

      Just keep it up. You and DEEP RED wouldn’t know the truth if it rounded you up, beat the shit out of you, and put you in a concentration camp. Good luck living that long.

      You and your buddy, SHALLOW BLUE, are idiots of epic proportions.

      “Your in a group of people who make up a vast, vast minority?” Well spoken. The word vast means large, moron. And you accentuated it by saying it twice! And it’s you are or you’re. As in YOU’RE a dumb ass.

    67. Layedback Says:

      Antichrist Much?

      Can Obama’s assertion that he is a “world citizen” be held tantamount to treason? I think yes. The fact is that asserting that the world, as a whole, must be involved in any activity is the same as making treaties with foreign dignitaries without the consent of congress. Infact, what is his interest in being in Germany in the firsty place?

      Begrudgingly, I must admit that Mr. Obama is the most gifted politician I have ever heard or seen in action. However, that kind of goes with the M.O. of the individual discussed above. We need to keep an eye open for turmoil, assassination, peace treaties in Israel, etc.

    68. Eric Says:

      OMFG Im loving the imperial march they play as backround..that was excelent. Now Im not a religious person…but I think this guy is going to show himself to be the “Anti-Christ” everyones been waiting for, and when codex alimentarius goes into full effect, and people are sick and starving to death, your average American will see what this guy is really about.

    69. Gregory Fegel Says:

      DEEP RED:
      Oh My God! You and I actually agree about something.

      The wealthy ruling elites derive their wealth from workers and consumers. It would not profit them to drastically reduce their productive work force. Nor would it profit them to eliminate the nonworkers, because the ruling elite recieves a great deal of money that is derived from or diverted from welfare programs and charities. The power and wealth of the ruling elite is achieved by exploiting the labor of many thousands of laboring, tax-paying drones. The wealthy ruling elite have no incentive to eliminate their servants, slaves, and breadwinners. Nothing suits the ruling elite so much as having a vast population living on the brink of starvation that will do ANYTHING for a crust of bread.

      History has shown us that overpopulation results in INCREASED wealth and power for the ruling elite, not a decrease in their wealth and power. China, Brazil, Indonesia, and Haiti demonstrate this fact.

      India’s population increased from 450 million in 1960 to 1,130 million in 2000, and at the current rate of increase, India’s population will be about 2,400 million in 2040. Nominally a ‘democracy’, in recent years India’s high tech and IT industries have created a new class of middle-class neuveau riche, but the vast majority of India’s population remains impoverished and uneffected by India’s new-found prosperity. Like the rest of the world, the gap in income and personal wealth that exists between India’s haves and have-nots has grown enormously in recent years. India’s once-promising democracy has already succumbed to the manipulations of India’s ruling elite.

      India is already experiencing serious shortages of food and water. Pollution is so bad that many rivers and groundwater sources are not safe to drink. Agricultural pesticides and herbicides are applied using primitive methods that result in poisoning of the farm laborers, the land, and also the food that is produced. Now the corrupt government of India has signed a deal with the USA to build nuclear power plants in India, where the worst chemical plant disaster in world history (at the Union Carbide facility at Bhopal) killed 20,000 people in one night.

      The fact is that a radical program of population control would serve the interests of the poor far more than it would the interests of the wealthy. Why should the wealthy ruling elite care about overpopulation? They will not suffer or starve as a result — only the poor will suffer and starve.

      But of course the wealthy ruling elite and their puppet governments will certainly continue to promote money-making schemes and scams that cause the deaths of millions of people, such as unnecessary wars and manufactured epidemics. But eliminating 80% of the population might result in an INCREASE in prosperity for the middle and lower classes and also an INCREASE in participatory democracy — outcomes which do not favor the wealthy ruling elite.

      In the 1340s and 50s the Bubonic Plague killed an estimated 50% of the population of Europe, and what followed was a century of unprecedented prosperity and freedom for the middle and lower classes of Europe.

      “The Black Death is estimated to have killed 30% to 60% of Europe’s population.[8][9][10] It may have reduced the world’s population from an estimated 450 million to between 350 and 375 million in 1400.”

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death

      “In many ways the Black Death was good for peasants, at least in Western Europe, because of the shortage of labor they were in more demand and had more power, and because of the reduced population, there was more fertile land available.”

      “… the plague’s great population reduction brought cheaper land prices, more food for the average peasant, and a relatively large increase in per capita income among the peasantry, if not immediately, in the coming century. However, the upper class often attempted to stop these changes, initially in Western Europe, and more forcefully and successfully in Eastern Europe, by instituting laws which barred the peasantry from certain actions or material goods.”

      http://www.spiritus-temporis.c.....ences.html

    70. Eric M. Says:

      The election is over, he wouldn’t have this World Stage unless he was the winner.

    71. AmericaSUCKS Says:

      The next U.S. president = The false prophet or the ANTICHRIST HIMSELF. It is very possible. Be afraid. Be very very afraid.

      This world, is hopeless. We the sheep, have lost this war.

      So now folks, our ONLY hope is in Jesus Christ, The True Messiah, The True God.

      Jason Reply:

      Well said. I agree completely.

    72. Don Don Says:

      Well Randy, that ain’t tha first call for a New World Order, check GHW Bush and Mr. Gordon Brown, and they said it directly. Where was all this hooplah then, don’t be so quick to cast him as the AC just yet, plus he ain’t even Catholic, and U know the Pope is gonna be the AC’s right hand man. I know it’s a hard pill to swallow for some that the United Strong Arm may possibly elect its first Black President, but remember the Revolution that everyone speaks of won’t have to do with Black and White, it’s gonna have to do with rich and poor…stomp out the middle class and the battle lines are drawn!!! The thing that sets me off about Obama is the fact that he falls in line with the Bildebergers, that’s why its so easy for even the most racist politicians to accept him!!! Free yo mind!!!

    73. David Lee Says:

      Teddy

      Nothing wrong with working together. Being forced to work together is the real issue. The speech to me indicates that there is no choice that we will be forced to work together. Not that we should or that we could but that we “will”. That is the problem!

      DEEP RED

      You kill me man! I mean when you look at all the crazy shit on the American money don’t you ask yourself what the hell that’s all about? Or do you just sweep it under the carpet and act like it is all good in the hood? Start there and work your way backwards. That’s what I did. I didn’t jump head first into the NWO issue! It became clear when I looked at what that was all about there on the money. I mean that isn’t just fun times it is a serious message that you should be listening to.

      History has left you clear and obvious evidence to support what most of us here fear. You say you know about the NWO but that we are all nuts? Either you know about it or you don’t bro. If you truely believe it is an issue (why else do you come to this site?) then how do you dismiss all the obvious signs? Nothing should be written off as fake or just stupid conspiracy. We need to digest everything and anything that is suspect or else we are failing to do what is right for ourselves and our nations.

    74. Gregory Fegel Says:

      Layedback wrote:
      “Begrudgingly, I must admit that Mr. Obama is the most gifted politician I have ever heard or seen in action.”

      Having shook hands with Robert F. Kennedy, I emphatically DO NOT share your flattering assessment of Buttcrack Obama, for whom comparisons to RFK are like comparing Sponge Bob to Superman or comparing ‘The Artiste Formerly Known as Prince’ to Jimi Hendrix. People who make such comparisons “wouldn’t know a diamond if they held it in their hand.”

      Borat Osama has always struck me as a lousy speaker and a feeble thinker very much on a par with George W. Bush. Obama and Bush both make that backwoods hillbilly, tent-show revivalist, ‘gee-willikers’ and ‘aw-shucks’ lamebrain Al Gore sound like a genuine orator by comparison.

      But perhaps their obvious stupidity and their apalling, trailer-trash public speaking skills are what make Obama, Bush, and Gore so popular in the dim-witted minds of the American public.

    75. Giant Shadows Says:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V5iCUBEUx4
      You do not have to accept this-
      GS

    76. JEH Says:

      So he IS for the destruction of America as a sovereign nation . OK this proves he’s just he’s another NWO crony.

    77. Gregory Fegel Says:

      About ‘conspiracies’:
      All wars are conspiracies of nations against other nations.
      Democracy consists of the conspiracies of rival political parties against one another.
      The marketplace is a huge arena of businesses conspiring against their competitors.
      Sports leagues foster conspiracies of each team against its rivals.
      Science is a conspiracy of scientists in search of knowledge.
      Extramarital affairs are conspiracies of adulterers, and marriage is a conspiracy of lovers.

      Love does not make the world go ’round; conspiracy does. Don’t be a compulsive ‘conspiracy denier’. That makes you a fool.

    78. Andy Says:

      Jesus christ is the only way. He will lead us through these hard times. Dont lose your faith and dont give up on our Lord because with him anything is possible. Pray, fast, spread the word, and reject the New World Order.

      “I’d rather die like a man, than live like a coward!”
      -Tupac

    79. neon Says:

      And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.

      ~Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche …

    80. Gregory Fegel Says:

      We should not admire ‘charisma’ as a virtue.

      ‘Charisma’ is a standard technique of actors, salesmen, con-artists, seducers, and, of course, politicians, all of whom seek to spellbind and distract people with their personal charm as a way of taking advantage of them. The effectiveness of ‘charisma’ is more than anything a measure of the gullibility of its admirers. Charles Manson and serial killer Ted Bundy, it is said, both had tremendous ‘charisma’.

      The most charismatic person I have ever known is a guy who earned a billion dollar fortune and the nickname “Toxic Bob” by going through life beguiling people with his immense personal charm and subsequently taking unfair advantage of them. “Toxic Bob” is responsible for several of the worst ecological disasters on the planet, including the most expensive Superfund site in US history, which will cost US taxpayers at least 120 million dollars to clean up. “Toxic Bob” is also involved in alleged ’slave labor’ projects in east Asia.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Friedland

      Don’t be like the Manson Family; don’t be a follower of ‘charisma’.

    81. Gregory Fegel Says:

      Andy:
      Jesus Christ is a myth; the recycled sun god.

      Judaism and Christianity are the CHIEF CAUSE of US Imperialism,
      militarism, and fascism. If and when it comes down to a fight,
      synagogues, churches, and their assets will be PRIORITY TARGETS of the Revolutionary Freedom Fighters. Zionist Jews and Christians will not be welcome in the post-Revolutionary America, and Christian zealots will not be tolerated. This must happen, or our Revolutionary struggle for freedom and justice will have been a waste of time.

      After the Revolution, there will be no place in the new America for Zionists. Period. Travel to and from Israel must be banned; anyone with an Israeli stamp in their passport must be expelled from the US or not allowed to enter in the first place. Plus all the synagogues must be closed and their assets confiscated. If the American Jews don’t like it, tell them where they can go. Agitation by Jews or Christians for their ‘rights’ should be punished with immediate deportation with no right of return, as well as confiscation of all their property of every kind.

    82. Simplebliss Says:

      man, hey wait didnt Bush CO. Do the same thing though This NEW WORLD ORDER>..I think so, dam..were all fucked no matter who we vote for ..Both Mcain and Obomma are for the NWO…i might as well not vote yet again…It seems that each decade sence client has spoke about this up comeing NWO…there pushing it hard now..

    83. Simplebliss Says:

      jeases wasnt a mith, but he wasnt a supernatural GOD like being either, at least not like people think…He was sent to do good and inspire a new form of beleaf, people took the whole concept and made it there own..depends on how far down the rabbit hole though the looking glass you want to go to find out the truth on this..I know alot about this…..but iam not going to make my case for sounding like some nut job..serious free thinkers need apply..it will blow your mind and you are right about the different patheons haveing similaritys because they were the same …one mind free them all..one mind to higher concepte one mind to set you free.

    84. Persephone Says:

      Vote He-Man, Master of the Universe! I’ll settle for President of the United States.

    85. garry Says:

      What was surprising about Obama and the NWO? This could be seen coming months ago.

    86. lyn Says:

      Every president is “chosen” by the shadow government who has been working for hundreds of years to create the New World Order.It is now almost upon us. I put my hope and faith in the only one who can save us and the only one who can bring lasting peace and that is Jesus Christ. I’m truly sorry for those of you who think He was a myth. Without Him in my life I probably would have jumped off a bridge by now.

    87. Megan Says:

      I have figured out that the majority wins because they are the ones of the lowest vibration and it is upon us to express the highest level of vibration and that it love. That vibration is called fear and the NWO will capitalize on that. Those who truly know what the truth is will stand strong and speak with passion and not hysterics. Should I have to, I will be on my knees in constant prayer for people to wake up. Look within to see who you are and what you represent, fear or love. It is certainly not what our “government” has in store for us.

    88. DeeDee Says:

      This man is, possibly, the Antichrist.

    89. cindy Says:

      No Worries FK
      You just sound like your on the payroll, that’s all

    90. cindy Says:

      To Gregory Fegel
      There is good logic to your comments. So as far as the depopulation aspects go — do you think they are weeding out the weak & poor, but don’t really plan to exterminate 4-billion, that it’s just a scare tatic??
      Rember Zappa stated that a nuclear war wasn’t cost effective, but scaring people into believing in one WAS!!

    91. Merkaba Says:

      The change is the dragon that roars through the dark, he wiggles his head as he sends up a spark, he seeks through the night with that one yellow eye, and all the earth trembles as he rushes by.

    92. Iliana Says:

      Man! Greg you know it’s so funny how it’s okay to bash Jesus Christ and call Him a myth. For once I wish you people would actually INVESTIGATE for yourselves the truth in the Bible and quit being so hateful. Jesus is GOD not some recycled “sun god” He’s God GET OVER IT GREG! and quit being so ignorant. Quit quoting the lies and SEEK TRUTH. :) I was once like you myself, because of the religious Beauracracy but iof you actually READ the gospel, Jesus went after the people who KNEW they needed saving, whores, outcasts, KNUCKLEHEADS What other “recycled sun god” did that? Not the religious right wing people. and get over your trip with Zionists man. Accept Jesus and MOVE ON HOMIE!

    93. Publius Says:

      Folks, it is hard for me to relate to obviously unenlightened folks who through their actions demonstrate no respect for honor and truth – or those seeking honor and truth.

      I’m specifically thinking of the individual calling her/himself “Red” whatever. This person has, on this board, called people “crazy” for no other reason than because they disbelieve the Official Government Line.

      By personalizing debate in such a low manner, “Red” whatever is like someone who insists others never, ever listen to any but a single radio station chosen by them. That of course will never happen.

      So, frankly, I wish “Red” whatever would either:

      1) have the good taste to leave those with active and curious minds to their free exchange – that is, go away; or
      2) make real contributions and transcend his/her impulse to flame, trolling and insult in the manner of a good Netizen – that is, grow up.

      My 2 cents.

    94. chris Says:

      I’m picking the lesser of the two evils come this November…Obama. I’m a huge fan of Alex Jones and this community, but I think you guys tend to go a little crazy with the NWO stuff. I found nothing wrong with his speech. Creating a stronger relationship with foreign nations is not globalization but instead cooperation (something our current administration seriously neglects).

    95. frak Says:

      Fegel said:
      “Don’t be like the Manson Family; don’t be a follower of ‘charisma’.”
      Thanks for the emptiness, I agree, but you’ll sure be ‘charismatic’ after the Elites kickoff the war with China next administration, ohhh, whattie, whattie !!! What, gets ‘em off the hook for the ridiculous debt, lines the pockets with gold, and depletes a huge burgeouning population which threatens their power stature, oh, yes, yesss, what has it got in its pockets????

    96. Marc Says:

      Alex, come on, Obama didn’t even say “new world order” or even “world order” in this piece. Publish media with him saying “world order,” because we know he is a CFR scumbag.

      Marc Larocque
      Taunton, MA

    97. Vern Says:

      There is no way Deep Red could be that dumb unless it’s on purpose. It sounds like dude is running damage control or he just doesn’t do much research to connect the dots.

    98. Crimpdaddy Says:

      saying “new world order” or not… when you start talking about global citizens, you are talking about globalization. im not too much up on the NWO thing but as these campaigns go on, both parties seem to be leaning towards it. as i stated before, if we are not willing to stand up and fight for our rights, then we get what we deserve when the NWO comes together in its totality.

    99. SiggySan Says:

      Dont give up entirely on Obama yet. There is credible information out there that indicates that he is telling the NWO what they want to hear to avoid assassination or defeat in the general election, but once he is sworn in he will be more like the dovish idealist we all thought he was.

      That said I admit I still have my doubts. I’m not ready to drink the Obama kool-aid yet. I’m just saying all is not necessarily what it seems.

    100. gun pwner Says:

      DONT FEED THE TROLLS

    101. Lorenzo Thomas Says:

      “It’s election time again
      And everybody’s ready to vote
      If both candidates are owned, brother tell me where is the hope?
      Hillary and Huckabee were waiting there in line
      I guess we get a DEMOCRAT TRAITOR this time
      Traitor, dare call it Treason”
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw5dP5gy2Vs

    102. hank Says:

      you know in the bible i believe its daniel or revelations it tells of a man who gains the kingdom with smoothe words and as the bible puts it “causes ruin among mighty ones in a wonderful way” thats the bible telling you its a wonderful thing so obama could be the loose cannon who turns on them. who knows

    103. suraci Says:

      The fact an American candidate makes a speech like this in Germany, the heart of Europe, is significant. It also clearly references Kennedy’s landmark speech there, which is the fascist’s way of telling us all Europe has been removed as any possible hindrance to their evil plans. Both Germany and France opposed the Iraq slaughter, and both are now safely led by Zionists.

      Obama didn’t actually say “New World Order”, but when I heard “global citizen”, it was clear what he was talking about, though they will hang it on the back of environmental scaremongering, rather than anything else. We must all be on the same team to save the planet, that’s the true message behind this particular fascists latest speech.

      Once in office, like the rest he will embark on a slaughter of the innocents.

    104. we all know nothing Says:

      Did any of you stop to think that these people have just gone insane because they’re all waaaaaaaay smarter than you, and being around a bunch of dumb fucks all day who could destroy them and/or their home has caused them to resort to desperate measures to protect the planet? Being enslaved is just a factor of your own ignorance, the enslavement ends when you all actually want it to… When you stop becoming walking talking contradictions. Psylocibin is a natural remedy for cleansing your pineal gland. It’ll help with the whole “realizing we have a unified consciousness” thing.

    105. mar Says:

      Mark, “the Great Tribulation starts this fall.” You are a believer…not a thinker…you have disqualified yourself. When you start doing your own thinking again come back and tell us something that isn’t so stupid. You kristian morons suck.

      You Jesus bastards have a brain disease and can’t do your own thinking…and you can’t figure that out because you can’t think. You sons of bitches brought this on us all, but again you are too stupid to figure that out, because you can’t think.
      The circle trap: Religion.

    106. HE_DoubleHockeySticks NO Says:

      Dont let these anti-god people shut you up. This is our fight Christians. Not theirs! Jesus told us about this New World Order 2000 years ago. They dont want to get on board with us then they will serve the NWO in the end.
      These atheist want you to feel that you are fighting this juggernaut on your own but we know that we are not alone. We have God. They have no one so they are fighting the NWO in their own strength and will loose. You atheist are still in the matrix because you refuse to see what the bible has said about this event. We have talked about this coming NWO for 2000 years you have been talking about it for 10 to 20 years. Who knows more about the enemy? You or Us? Why even resist the NWO? I think you anti-christians who have recently appeared here at this site are working for the NWO. Probably CIA. Take their faith and they will acquiesce. Right!

    107. Southern Cross Says:

      MAR, YOR MESSAGE SAYS:

      mar
      July 26,2008 Mark, “the Great Tribulation starts this fall.” You are a believer…not a thinker…you have disqualified yourself. When you start doing your own thinking again come back and tell us something that isn’t so stupid. You kristian morons suck.

      You Jesus bastards have a brain disease and can’t do your own thinking…and you can’t figure that out because you can’t think. You sons of bitches brought this on us all, but again you are too stupid to figure that out, because you can’t think.
      The circle trap: Religion.

      First of all The Holy Bible has never or never will be shown as contradicting it’s self. No other book on earth has lasted well over 2000 year without contradiction by even experts.

      A few months ago golden charriot wheels were found in the Red Sea dating back before Christ when Moses crossed the sea because God parted the sea and then let it fall on the Egyptians killing them all.

      I ask you to read and study what you condem. The only way to survive the coming events is to believe that Christ died for you sins on the cross and accept him as your savior.

    108. James Says:

      I do not believe the true followers of christ are the cause of our problems.However,the vast majority of so called christans do not obide by the teachings of christ.It is this vast majority who are indeed implicated in causing the world to fall to the NWO.The NWO has taken control of the world by taking advantage of humanities many weaknesses,one of these weaknesses is the tendancy to over-value material things of the world as opposed to valuing the earth as are temporary home and creation of God.Just a short time ago I found myself engaged in a debate with a person who called themselves christan,and yet insisted that God was a capitalist!I will not turn this into a debate about capitalisam,but my point is that Jesus taught his followers not to be concerned with money,or even what they would eat the next day.Christans were taught to focus on spiritual matters,and to set an example for the rest of the world.Yet even in the early days of the church many so called christans used the scriptures not for spiritual enlightenment but as justification for all sorts of material and political activities,including war,genocide,and the general enslaving of the masess.The list of altrocities commited in the name of christ is long,and the legacy or results of those altrocities are still with us today.While the crimes of the elite predate the church,it was the church which in many cases served as a facilitator for the elite to gain almost unyeilding power over the common people.Indeed through the church the elite gained god like authority and status.Today most christans still fail to heed the teachings of christ,and continue the legacy of legitimizing crass materialisam and outright evil in the name of God.I for one wish that christans would accept responcibility for the crimes they have commited and have allowed to be commited.Some real christans have done just that,and are now prepared to set a christ like example for the world to follow.The problem is that It is probably to late to undo the damage already done.The prophicies of the bible are now coming to pass.Not because it is Gods will,but because we have ignored Gods will.You see the prophisies of the last days are warnings of what will happen if humanity continues to mock God,well that is just what we,”including most christans” continue to do.

    109. Crimpdaddy Says:

      ok… prime example of braindead jesus freaks.

      First of all The Holy Bible has never or never will be shown as contradicting it’s self. No other book on earth has lasted well over 2000 year without contradiction by even experts.

      are you serious? experts have been questioning all of the contradictions of the bible for as long as i can remember. even as a child i had a mind of my own to question the contradictions and inaccuracies of the bible and made my own choice to stop attending church at age 8, when i decided that i did not want to be lumped in with the rest of the hypocracy.

      bottom line is this, the bible is merely a book written by man. im sorry… multiple men. then the different books of the bible were approved by the church and assembled so as to best control the masses. end of story. if you do NOT believe in that then go ask the catholic church about all the other books of they bible that they have under lock and key and will not allow into the bible.

      “think for yourself…question authority” and free yourself from the mindfuck that the church has done to you.

    110. chris r Says:

      there are no contradictions in the bible
      jesus mother was a virgen
      jesus had an older brother (james)

      hmmmm…..

    111. Crimpdaddy Says:

      adam and eve were the only people created but yet where did anyone else come from after they were banned from the eden?

      this list goes on and on but ultimately my favorite is how the bible preaches of equality but yet the jews are “gods chosen people”. which leads me (and anyone else with any sense of deductive reasoning) to believe that it was all written by a jew. in other words the bible is the oldest writings of propaganda in history. but that all of this could start a whole new website and forum. now that has been established… on with the revolution!!!

      we should all be prepared to either surrender to the NWO or prepare to fight or die for the cause.

    112. Jim Says:

      Sorry to say, Christians have succumb to false doctrine, I know, I used to be one, I would rather be called anything but’Christian’ in the way it is being used. Christianity has become nothing more than religion and religion is the problem. There are few people who really follow what the bible is all about. They have taken a simple book based off of 10 simple rules that even an atheist can agree with me on at least 6 of them and thrown them out of the church. Everything is centered around Jesus, they talk about a triune God, the Father, The son and the spirit but they never teach on the Father, yea the accountability part, the thou shalt not. He has been banned from modern christian churches. Hell most atheists have more of a moral compass than ‘Christians’because they do as they please and ignore the law of the Father. They couldn’t recite 5 of the commandments if thier life depended on it, they ignore his will, his rules and say they are following God. Ha ha. Yea right, they follow ‘Jesus’ because he can forgive any horrible thing they do with no accountability. The Truth of the Matter is they need both, not just forgiveness and not just Law, they need both. Thous shalt not steal, murder, commit adultery, bear false witness (lie) covet (be jealous of) thy neighbors possesions. I have personally spoken to atheists about these things and agree with most that these are fair and natural common ground, but’Christians’ reject them because it brings them into condemnation and would force them to learn how to stop breaking these simple rules and create a better world. However, ‘Christians’ they are holy and above God’s simple laws, they have risin above the law. ‘Christians are the problem in this country, blindly following corruption and corrupt leaders because they cannot discern the truth (law) from a lie. If they used the law they could see that the people they support are lying, stealing murdering and all the rest and would recognize it for what it is.

    113. John Payne Says:

      He still carried the line on 911 just like everyone else. Can no one put their life on the line to state that the buildings were brought down with controlled demolition. Even Ron Paul??? Why not??? When is the right time??? Damn it, can’t someone speak the truth. Where is the truth? Where is the truth? Who are we? Are we even alive anymore? What is missing?

    114. John Payne Says:

      Chemtrails are designed to take out the human sense of smell. Without smell a critical part of the memory complex is hindered. Heavy metals can neutralizes olofactory bulbs. It takes months if not longer for these bulbs to recover, and of course, exposure must be eliminated.

      Strong smells can still be detected, and food can still be tasted, but subtle memory functions are halted. Social cues are disrupted. Ever wonder why no one is on the street after all of the crime being committed by our leaders. People were on the streets in the 60’s. The sense of smell is a key component to mind control.

    115. we all know nothing Says:

      division, division, division… it’s like everyone’s stuck in the 4th grade because you can’t get past DIVISION!

    116. randy shores Says:

      deep red asshole im lmao
      im randy shores and i approve this message

    117. randy shores Says:

      deep red asshole. and i’m lmao. “here here” david lee “here here.

    118. randy shores Says:

      very good jim. what a great point and very well said. how sad i’ve never heard anything like that from a pastor.

    119. randy shores Says:

      crimpdaddy- you and people like vou have to understand that gods
      ” chosen people ” only means the race that would carry the seed
      of OUR redeemer and there had to be a chosen race for that.its not about favorites.i do agree w/ you however.we are going to have to fight w/ everything have or surrender everything we have.

    120. subtoteabowbraine Says:

      Heres the youtube channel of Teabowbraine. He has some very good videos and is definitely worth subscribing too.
      http://uk.youtube.com/user/teabowbraine

      We need to support the grass routes.
      Thanks teabowbraine for the video.

    121. Crimpdaddy Says:

      originally randy, that was my impression of the “chosen people” also but if you read further into it, the bible also states that once the “rapture” comes and everyone is lifted up into heaven that ONLY the jews would be allowed to live in the city of heaven and everyone else would only be allowed to look upon the city of heaven. again… easy conclusion… written by a jew. lol but i am glad that someone finally agrees with me that we ARE gonna have to fight.

    122. Amery jane Says:

      hey im a german girl .. i was there when he was speaking i held obamas hands .. i was one of the first who were standing there and i saw one thing !::::
      when he saw all the people he started to laugh for his own very quietly . i saw that this man and thought damn he behaves like a hitler !!!!!!

    123. kristin Says:

      You are all insane. Obama is not plotting anything evil. If anyone is “a hitler” its BUSH. And learn how to construct a sentence, seriously.

    124. Jennifer S. Says:

      Ok, now I know a lot of this “conspiracy stuff” sounds crazy, some of it is a bit crazy even for my taste.

      But anyone who thinks there is NOTHING going on at all is in complete denial. I like to consider all theories, and hope to god non of them are correct. I have always believed that people in positions of extreme power are people you have to watch, CLOSELY. Sure, Obama started out well, his intentions, to me, seemed sincere and honest. Yet something has changed about him. Something my deep intuitions do not trust.

      Maybe I am crazy, maybe all of us “anti-nwo”-ists are crazy.

      Yet, in contradiction to your claim, FK, there are so many people who feel like something is amiss in the world. I have had so many people surprise me in their beliefs toward the direction this world is headed, and believe me, we are much more than an “extremely small minority.” You and DEEP RED are lucky that there are people, honest-to-god GOOD people, paying more attention in the world than just to their extremely biased main-stream media. People who care deeply about where we are headed and care deeply about our planet- I am sure most of them are the kind who get extremely heated when they see someone throw a piece of trash out of their window while driving down the highway, or when all they see are people who only care about money, popularity, vanity, expensive toys, themselves. I know it drives me insane when a person can’t seem to see anything beyond him or herself…

      Also, FK (and this is directed toward DEEP RED as well), where have you disproven anyone in this post? All I have seen are snide and smartass remarks toward the people who are posting seriously. There are a few theories I have that could explain this behavior, but I won’t lower myself to your standards, nor will you coax me into doing so.

      I have also noticed the more often the both of you post in “response” (if they can even be dignified as “responses”), the more spelling and punctuation errors you seem to have. Your posts even start to sound more desperate in their obviously frantically written composure. If anyone wants their posts to be taken seriously and their voice to be heard, they should consider checking their work before posting. Otherwise, you can damn well expect to lose all of your credibility, thanks to all of those grammatical errors.

      So really, besides blowing a little steam about the grammatical errors I see WAY too often, I’m really trying to say that of all the people I know that believe something is up, NONE of them seem the least bit “off” or unstable. Every single one is fiercely kind-hearted, caring, friendly, loving, dedicated, hard-working, down-to-earth, honest people.

      And it breaks my heart to see them attacked by people who find it easier to attack rather than open their minds a little and do some honest research of their own.

    125. Jennifer S. Says:

      By the way, Kristin, Hitler gave speeches that moved masses- BUSH cannot put together a proper sentence, even when it is written out on paper right in front of him.


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