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Military Whistleblower Claims She Witnessed Flight 93 Shootdown Order
Private stationed at Fort Meade on 9/11 gives astounding interview
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Wednesday, April 8, 2009
A woman who claims she was stationed at Fort Meade on September 11, 2001, has given an explosive interview about how she personally heard military commanders make the decision to shoot down United Airlines Flight 93 on 9/11.
A person using the pseudonym Elizabeth Nelson told The Project Camelot website that she personally heard officials agree on the order to shoot down Flight 93. The decision was apparently made because the plane was flying in a no-fly zone near to Camp David and heading toward Site R, a military facility in known as the “backup Pentagon”.
Nelson stresses that at no time was there any talk of “hijackers,” and the plane was shot down purely because communication had been lost and standard operating procedure mandated that the plane be intercepted and destroyed.
Because the woman refuses to provide her real name, the authenticity of her story is very much up for debate, but in a 40 minute MP3 recording (click here to listen) of the interview, she relates what she witnessed in as sincere and genuine a way as one could expect. This individual has seemingly little to gain from making up such a story, unless it’s part of a deliberate disinformation campaign.
Nelson says that she was stationed at at Fort Meade under the Kimbrough Ambulatory Care Center Hospital and was training as a radiologic technologist having finished basic training three weeks prior. On 9/11, her rank was Private First Class.
Nelson relates how 9/11 started as a routine day before a higher ranked soldier suddenly emerged from another room and exclaimed, “Holy shit! I just saw a plane crash into one of the Twin Towers.”
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Nelson and her colleagues then gathered around the TV in the hospital lobby before they saw the second plane hit the tower. Despite the fact that the first plane strike was not broadcast on live television, Nelson was adamant that the soldier was referring to the first plane when he first spoke. Nelson says that when she first saw the live TV pictures, only one tower was on fire, so the soldier could not have been referring to a replay of the second hit. In the interview, Nelson speculates that the first hit could have been broadcast on an internal military channel. President Bush once famously claimed that he had seen the first plane hit and thought that it was a case of pilot error, despite there being no live TV footage of the first plane strike.
While the majority of the personnel on the base scrambled to protect the facility as part of standard operating procedure, Nelson and a colleague were offered up by their First Sergeant to act as assistants to the Commander of the Base.
“All the other departments of soldiers – the nursing department, the clerical, administrational department – everybody sent their base soldiers there and I didn’t see them anymore. So basically the hospital was not fully active at that point. Everything was on hold,” said Nelson, adding, “And so I remember the room that they took us into. And they told us that we were in charge of, you know, getting coffees, any kind of snacks from the cafeteria – not cafeteria, like from the snack machines or from the place where you can get little snacks – in charge of making photocopies because she and I had the access codes for the rooms, to get in there.”
Nelson and her colleague were sat at the far end of the room and told to face the wall as the meeting of top officials on the base commenced.
“And there was probably six or seven men around this very large table, just like you would see in a big office somewhere. And they had this funny phone. It was like a conference-call phone. And I remember them sitting there and they were talking through this phone. And it seemed to me that they were talking to one or two other places,” said Nelson, adding that she suspected the men were in contact with the West Point military base an hour north of New York City.
The men were trying to ascertain what was going on and quickly expressed concern about Camp David and “Site R” and stating words to the effect of, “Protocol is that this is a no-fly zone. We have to take this plane down. Yes, it’s a passenger plane. It needs to be taken down. It’s a no-fly zone.”
According to Wikipedia, Site R, otherwise known as The Raven Rock Mountain Complex (RRMC) or the Underground Pentagon, is a United States government facility on Raven Rock, a mountain in the U.S. state of Pennsylvania. The facility houses the ANMCC (Alternate National Military Command Center), JSSC (Joint Staff Support Center), OSD/DHS (Office of the Secretary of Defense/Department of Homeland Security), and the 114th Signal Battalion. RRMC also houses the emergency operations centers for the Army, Navy and Air Force.
“I didn’t hear a thing about hijackers,” states Nelson, “We just heard that this plane was flying in a no-fly zone and they couldn’t make contact with the plane, or something like this. There was no communication. Protocol says it has to be taken out. And so I was in this room when the decision was mutually made by the people talking on the phone in the room that I was in, to shoot this plane down.”
“It didn’t feel like anybody knew that there was anything with terrorists,” added Nelson, saying that the officers mentioned the attack on the twin towers but only in the context that they didn’t know where Flight 93 was heading. She got the impression that they were genuinely unaware of the wider 9/11 plot, as would be expected in a compartmentalized structure, and that they were simply following military protocol.
Nelson recalls how she later felt revulsion after she saw news reports about how Flight 93 had supposedly been taken down by brave passengers.
“I remember the distinct feeling inside of me of when I saw on the news that there was this story that there were terrorists on this plane, and that the people overtook the pilot and crashed the plane, – I mean, overtook the terrorists and crashed the plane themselves. And how this was leaking out as these people being heroes,” she states.
“And I remember the extreme moral frustration inside of me, of feeling: But that’s not true! That’s not true at all! We shot this down. And a huge conflict inside of me, of knowing that the world is made to believe this story that’s not true.”
Nelson subsequently felt frustrated when anyone talked about the manufactured myth of the Flight 93 heroes.
“I also remember the confronting feeling when I would be around … because there were civilians that worked in the hospital as well. And then when they would talk about the heroes and these things, the conflict that I had inside of myself was wanting to bust out and say: That’s not true!,” she states.
“They didn’t crash the plane. If they would have crashed it, there would have been a skeleton of the plane. There was no… Nothing. It was blown up.”
Nelson speculated that the errant aircraft could have been originally heading for New York City (Building 7?) before the passengers retook control of the aircraft and started aimlessly flying it elsewhere.
“The only thing I can think is if the third plane was also intended for somewhere in the city [New York City] as well, and that the people actually did take over the hijackers and divert the plane so that the plane ended up flying aimlessly someplace else. And of course the people don’t know how to talk over the radio or any of these things. And that’s maybe something that happened,” she states.
The biggest argument against Nelson’s claims is the hard to accept notion that she and another Private were allowed to sit within earshot of top military commanders making monumental decisions about national security. If the commanders had needed people to make photocopies of documents and bring snacks and drinks as Nelson describes, then why not just have them on call in a different room? One would expect that a military complex have sophisticated communication connections that would have easily facilitated such a scenario.
Then again, if all the other active duty personnel were busy defending the base it could be argued that in the midst of the chaos, Nelson and her colleague were called upon.
Whether or not Nelson’s story is true, the fact that Flight 93 was shot down is one of the most glaring holes in the official 9/11 story.
Footage of the crash site showed barely any debris whatsoever. Compare this to any other plane crash in history and the contrast is astounding.
The debris field of Flight 93 was eight miles wide – investigators found a second debris field three miles away from the main crash site at Indian Lake, and a third debris field in New Baltimore, eight miles away. This is entirely consistent with the plane having been shot down.
Several eyewitnesses described hearing explosions before Flight 93 crashed and others said they heard missiles.
The Flight93Crash website has a compilation of eyewitness reports all attesting to the fact that the plane was shot down.
Donald Rumsfeld himself said that Flight 93 was “shot down” in an apparent slip of the tongue on December 24, 2004.
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April 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Just think of all the dead of 9/11. If I witnessed that, I’d go forward, name and all. I’d also create videos and post them on the Internet first. Think of the dead.
sporidium Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Not if you were made aware that your family would be offed if you breathed a word about it.
Vigilant in Chicago Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
There is footage from one of the major cable news networks, I have not seen since 9/11/01.
It is of a military analyst discussing a cellphone call made from a passenger on United 93 the day of. The male caller stated to his wife that, “there were white plumes of smoke near the wings.” The talking head turned to the military man and asked him what could that be? He stated bluntly, “The only thing that could mean, is that it was being shot at.”
To this day I have never seen that segment again. I’ve looked for it.
As well, all that morning, there was talk about this fourth plane. When it was reported, the footage was from the expressway, about 1/2 mile away. Then it was mostly silent the rest of the day.
Cheney gave the order. Rumsfeld slipped up one interview a while back during a Sunday morning news show. I think it might have been Meet the Press.
I myself think we’re one false-flag away from a police state, so this information should be acted upon immediately. Couple this with the air sample findings of the air near WTC and they should all be indicted.
Social Viability Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
“I myself think we’re one false-flag away from a police state…”
I myself think this is already a police state. Too many laws to keep track of; patriots targeted by police for political reasons (remember the MIAC report); citizens routinely arrested for non-violent crimes so that prison operators can profit; politicians constantly lying and deceiving the populace so as to exploit them.
A good litmus test of the police state: When you see a cop do you feel safe or threatened?
While we aren’t living the full evolution of the Orwellian vision, we are way too close.
I agree that a false-flag attack will take us another big step down the wrong path and unless we completely throw out this criminal regime of bankers and politicians, we will inevitably see that unfold.
Don’t fight the system:
Replace it
http://socialviability.com/
John Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Here is the link to Rumsfeld saying “flight 93 shot down over PA”……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Xoxaf1Al0
Pepper Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
John, I wholeheartedly agree about being one false flag away from a police state, but then that means we as a nation are confronted with Treason at the highest levels of our government….
Another point, how is it she heard an order to shoot down 93 at her level by her commanders when cheney gave the order in Washington DC to all commanders to “stand down” and that was according to sworn testimony by Sec Manetti before the 9-11 commission.
So, either she is lying or she heard her commanders counter the original cheney command to “stand down” and if that is the case, those commanders disobeyed a direct order. Either that or she didn’t hear what she said and the pilot disobeyed a direct order.
Remember, Manetti’s testimony relayed how the officer kept coming in to report how far the planes were out on both pentagon flight and flight 93 and this all took a while. That officer finally got paniced and said “Sir, does your order still stand, since the plane is 30 miles out and closing and the other one is 50 miles out and closing?”
Cheney yelled at the officer who had now asked three times if he wanted to change his order to stand down. He said to the officer “IF I WANTED THE ORDER CHANGED I WOULD HAVE SAID SO”. With that the officer left. So flight 93 was well on everyones radar by then and everyone knew it was a rogue plane. Even if she didn’t know, the commanders would have know by now since by then 3 planes had reached and hit their target before 93 went down.
Its too weird. It might be cover for Cheney because her story would then counter Manetti’s testimony and thus the pending indictments in Europe against Cheney for the 9-11 attack as a crime against humanity…
Oh, and by the way, the video of Manetti’s testimoney AND TRANSCRIPT ARE MISSING FROM THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS…. and that was before Cheney left office, now who has the power to do that???
ZebZeb Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
What planes? I never saw any damn planes. And the CGI they did to show you planes on the TV was a freaking joke. If you think their were civilian planes used and with people in them you need to do more research. Cause the real story that they don’t want you to know is their never was any damn planes.
kornfused Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 11:20 am
you may wonder if the Illuminati warned about 9/11? Actually, they did but you may not have noticed. In the “X-Files” spin-off “The Lone Gunmen” the pilot episode that aired on March 4, 2001, six months before 9/11, is about a remotely controlled commercial airplane set to crash into the World Trade Center. In the show an inside government faction orchestrates the WTC attack but the attack will be blamed on terrorists to launch wars. An anti-terrorist exercise is used to confuse the military as to whether there is an actual attack or it’s just the anti-terrorist exercise. This is what happened in the real-life 9/11 attack. Chris Carter, the creator of X-Files and The Lone Gunmen, is a 33rd degree Freemason. As such Chris Carter is likely a member of the Illuminati and may have been told to forewarn the public of what’s coming according to Illuminati principles. And the government says they had no idea that planes would be used to crash into the World Trade Center??? They must not be X-Files fans nor listen to any of the warnings that various governments gave them about the upcoming attack.
Please see video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUKQz-xm0is ‘”The Lone Gunmen” TV Show Foreshadows 9/11′
John Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Here is the video of Rumsfeld saying flight #93 hit by a missile…hopefully, this time the mods do not delete this….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Xoxaf1Al0
wit send Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
I was sitting on my couch watching “the news” on 9/11 while 93 was still in the air. I saw a quick news report that said 93 was shot down by US fighters. My wife was like WTF! That was the only report we saw after that the story changed…
glenn beck stalks alex jones Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
1. you’re not a whistleblower if you don’t give your name. 2. The story is of no use whatsoever without a name because it cannot be checked. The person may as well not endanger herself by speaking of it because it can’t be used anyway. 3. What use is it to hide a name when all identifying information is given? How hard will it be for them to figure out who this is?
Not buying this one. Stay logical people.
Steve Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 4:23 am
Hi glenn beck stalks alex jones,
I really don’t get it.
A person who was ending her training as, she ‘beleives’, a 1st class Private at Fort Meade, who was training to take X-Rays and was in the top three female soldiers who finished her training and was one of two privates sent to make photocopies and coffee wants to use a false name to protect herself from the CIA or the US Military.
I’m not the brightest light in the pack, but…..
Best regards,
Steve
April 8th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
I was stationed in Germany on 9/11 and I had a similar experience with the first plane. Never thought anything about that day until a few years ago. Is everyone sure the first plane was not televised! Maybe people are remembering what they want! I am convinced 9/11 was an inside job!
Alex Jones you are an annoying as@hole, but I respect your websites for their news!
Fight the good fight and never bow to anyone! We all have hearts that beat red blood, money doesn”t make you better than anyone! Character defines a man, Knowledge is power. Study our past to know our future….
wilcat Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
I was in France too – this was the first news report I saw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpONEX8tme8
crazybass Reply:
April 10th, 2009 at 1:32 am
I’m in the UK and remember seeing plane one hit, wilcat’s video is the footage I saw. This was aired pretty quickly after plane one hit.
April 8th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
delibertate disinfo campain. done and done.
April 8th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
this one is still unknown,google the maps from 1997 and the same photo is a current.the satellite view is the same,why?the same figure in the ground is the same as it was years ago.this is a question that needs to be addressed.
April 8th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Interesting unconfirmed but believable addition to this story on a personal level. I had just begun a new job in 2007 and in the course of general lunchroom conversation one of the guys, a former navy MP, mentioned a good friend of his still on active duty and working in cryptology was on duty the morning of 9/11 and had told how he was very much aware of flight 93 being shot down and was present when the orders came through. This story was completely unsolicited and my personal beliefs on 9/11 were not even mentioned prior to the telling of this story, so there was no outside influence as to why it would have been made up at all. Just something to think about.
April 8th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
But remember Cheney told the U.S. over & over it “crashed” on it’s own;
And they were all very heroic ~
[they made a movie with air phone calls]
Cheney gave a lot of orders.
qwerty Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
afadsf… you are a moron! Have you not seen what a real plane looks like when it crashes? It looks like a plane with little broken areas with some black smoke and fire marks.
April 8th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
If they lie about one thing, they lied about another and another and another and another, until everything is so buried with lies that you can’t put the puzzle back together.
This woman helped put an obvious piece in its place. So shut up!
These passengers, crew and pilots were gassed on the planes. That is why there was no response. They were flown using remote guidance controls placed in these “three very important” aircraft.
The hero aspect they created after the fact was to rally America behind their false wars they needed for complete control takeover of the military industrial complex – which they now have thanks to ignorant people such as yourself.
April 8th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Interesting, but because she cannot offer any solid proof, her story is hearsay, with no legal standing.
We are so duplicitous! The official 9/11 fairytale also relies on hearsay, and “evidence” with no reliable chain of custody. But when presented by the corporate media 24/7/365, it hearsay and legend and the “19 arabs” conspiracy yarn becomes accepted history.
April 8th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Well, if you used your brain you might consider that perhaps the whole point of this article was to highlight the fact that the US government COVERED UP what really happened to Flight 93. As you say, of ourse there was a shoot down order; yet one Holywood dramatisation and a whitewashed report later, probably most people still believe the official story.
sporidium Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Yes, of course the story might not be true. But, in your haste to show everyone what a smartarse you are, you’re missing my point. Watson was taking the opportunity this ostensible new witness was fairly plausibly, in hus judgment, relating, to highlight that there was a coverup. That’s my point, if you can cool down enough to see it.
Eric Vaughan Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 7:37 am
Here’s my two cents on Flight 93. It made a run towards America’s most sensitive areas, Quantico and Langley, Virginia, forcing the war gamers in flight to try and cover it while all hell broke lose in Toronto. However, the Air Canada flight never took off owing to a pilots union concern. A couple days later, boxcutters were found which would’ve again absolved the Israel-based security firm from all legal liabilities had it crashed into the TD Centre.
April 8th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
the 9-11 report has no such report made or claimed,that’s why this is critical if true at all.google maps prove something is not right.in 1997 the same ground area has the same impact zone crash that they release today,oh well,just food for thought.
April 8th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Shootdown, huh? So where was the supposed site of the crash? It certainly wasn’t in the Shanksville ditch. And as someone mentioned earlier, this women is anonymous and won’t mention any names and says the 1st crash was on TV?
I smell BS.
MH Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Truthseeker, if it was shot down its likely there were multiple debris fields and no real crash site. Just multiple parts of the plane coming down in different area’s. The 8 mile radius of the debris from the plane is enough to come to the conclusion that it didn’t crash, it was blown up fairly high up. Like third party says, the supposed impact zone is pretty much the same as in 1997 according to google maps…which has yet to update that area for some reason.
People who believe the official story, I pity you, when you try and rip apart little aspects of the incident…when there’s loads and loads of smoking guns, you should also try watching all of Alex Jones Films and look elsewhere as well. Once you understand what the government has done in the past, what there doing now (thats documented) it becomes very unlikely that the government had no knowledge of the attack….considering the planes went off course for 70mins, seems ridiculous that it didn’t have jets up there with it, and wasn’t shot down…That in itself is unbelievable if you look at previous incidents of planes going off course (before 9/11) and the response time in that case, especially with no communication.
You also have to consider that the official story is 70% crap, and its been ripped apart several times. There’s no attempt to reassure the public by the government is there? Independent commission, that’s what it was
Just look at who was part of it lol. Do you not think if they could allow an independent investigation and it would bring back a verdict supporting the governments story, which would stop the millions of ‘9/11 is an inside job’ protesters and allow people to have confidence in the government. They’d definitely do it, especially considering a majority of people want the case to be re opened and a true independent commission that goes in to detail. The only reason for completely ignoring this now, is because they have something to hide… You can make up your own conclusion based on the documented facts, you don’t need to listen to alex jones opinion or wtv. Look at the evidence, irrefutable things. It will show that there’s definitely something wrong, and that isn’t a conspiracy theory.
These stories are just additions to further enhance the case, on top of whats already available. I understand that there is a lot of people who go against these conspiracy theories, because they refuse to believe them. Pretending there’s nothing wrong, allows you to continue with your mindless life (until it all happens) worry free
. Most people are like that here in the UK, probably the same in the US. Some people also like to redicule such theories, based on what they’ve seen on the media.
I was debating with someone who hasn’t even looked at anything, he was just coming back with what was on the media and what people on the box said. He then got really angry at me, and said I needed to go see a counselor lol….Remember this person knows nothing apart from what he’s seen on the news… Then you have the idiots who are actually for the war, go on about oil and how its good for the country and however the government did it, they don’t care. They then go and protest against the protesters lol.
Brainwashing and propaganda is everywhere, I was watching 24 the other day. Once you understand the world, how things really are…you just notice every little bit of propaganda, trying to affect how people think… The law preventing military conducting millitary operations on US soil, was one of the major points…If I was mindless, I’d actually think that law was stupid and it needed to be removed…based just on that episode and another program I watched.
People saying there’s nothing to worry about, government had no knowledge…nothing. Now that is a proper conspiracy theory, with so little evidence to back it up
, Best thing people can do is destroy there TV’s and just use the Internet 
. I’ve already sold mine, a lot of my views and opinions used to come from what I saw on TV…almost all of them, even in shows like 24 etc. I’ve sold it now, and most people should….
Understand that people in power, people with all the money… Most couldn’t give 2 shits about anyone, some are evil people. Once you can accept that some members in the government are not doing things in the best interest of the people (Human Nature btw, especially people with power), you can open your extremely narrow minded view and start to educate yourself without prejudice.
There are many things I question personally, and not fully convinced by Alex Jones on… But 75% of it I do, and I do my own comprehensive research ignoring anyone elses view aside from the evidence presented. The general part of Alex Jones views on whats happening, is very well backed up and it is what really is happening or very close.
End of my rant, but its just fact that many people who argue against these ‘Conspiracy Theories’ (most of them should be Conspiracy FACT though), have not checked anything at all and won’t even look. Someone who has educated them self, and checked through everything has never disagreed on what I say (only the odd small point). Also beware of people who’s sole purpose is disinformation, remember people…especially the ones who call us cooks, check history and you will notice the government, the world its never been a place of true freedom due to the effects of power and money. Evil is prevalent and its not always obvious.
Norman Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
MH,
A long but rewarding read!
Truthseeker Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
I beg to differ, MH. The governemnt has since claimed 80% of the plane went into the Shanksville ditch with the earth covering it up and the rest of the plane supposedly landed in the woods next to the ditch. What a crock!
This women is full of beans and we need to think more critcally than this.
April 8th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
If this was false what else is false? maybe that a missle hit the pentagon instead of a plane? If you read the report of flight 77 which hit the pentagon you’ll find that they identified bodies from the flight in dover but there is no evidence placing their bodies at the pentagon crash. Here is the qoute from the report”Human remains of the people onboard Flight 77 were identified at Dover, but there is no public evidence that places the bodies at the Pentagon crash site. ” Cover up anyone?
April 8th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Senario 1: Plane crashes on it’s own = plane & people parts everywhere. NOT OBSERVED!
Senario 2: Plane shut down = plane & people parts everywhere. NOT OBSERVED!
So, what did the people really saw crashing or getting shut down?
April 8th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Ah, the old non sequitor and ad hominem arguments. A person was wrong once, therefore he’s a fantasist every time he speaks thereafter. How does it feel to be infallible on your planet?
Chucky Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
adfea your post automatically implied what sporidium stated. Many poeple make the mistake of not taking responsibiity for your actions including implications including me. And your post is presumably deliberate in leading the reader to assume things through your sarcasm and ‘LMFAO’ which frankly does not help anyone take you seriously.
April 8th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Sounds like a hoax to me.
Why would the commander of the hospital and the Garrison Commander be involved in those kinds of talks? What sets off the BS detector even more; on an installation that houses the most highly secured communications facilities in the world, this woman claims that these talks took place in one of the buildings not designed for secure communications, the hospital.
Come on…
Why not just have a conference call, on a cellphone, on speaker, in the dining hall at high noon?
libertybell Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
It just wreaks of BS on so many levels.
Perhaps the interviewer should have looked up “debriefing” on Wikipedia. You know, because that’s what would have occurred with this anonymous Private after being exposed to classified information. Or maybe “classified information non-disclosure agreement.” Because that’s what she would have had to sign after the debriefing.
Like I said before, none of it makes any sense;
- This conversation allegedly took place in the hospital. An unsecured location. On the installation that houses the NSA. Not likely.
- The commanders involved are the hospital commander and the garrison commander. Two people not involved in intelligence, on a base that literally revolves around intelligence. Not likely.
- To assist these commanders while in their highly sensitive talks, two medical trainees are selected. Two of the relatively few personnel, on an installation that is absolutely crawling with clearance holders, that don’t have a clearance. Not likely.
- These commanders who are allegedly key in making a shoot down decision, after unwisely allowing two medical trainees into the same room while making such decisions, then tell the Private “hey, go home and do some yoga while listening to a sh1tty new age CD.” Like she was in the room overhearing them order lunch. Not likely.
blue pill society Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
to Eraw, Admit he was dupped???? in the article watson specifically sais that the story is not verified but that it’s just a testimony that was given by someone to another site and aired on radio, he wouldn’t have to retract shit as he never claimed that the claims made were true or untrue, he actually specifies this so what in god fuck are you talking about, you people really need to read shit carefully and stop being so locked up your own absolutes.
April 8th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
How about the one where the entire USAF was stood down during a drill on the morning of a massive attack on the US? Or the drill on the morning of the London bombings? Yup, you coincidence theorists deserve all that’s coming your way.
Chucky Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Who is us in this case? Because if it’s the UK or US you can look it up yourself. In the case of the UK it was on live television that the spokesman of a crisis management company admitted that they were doing drill secnarios at the exact time of the 7/7 bombings at the exact same tube stations and he expects us to believe this was just a coincidence.
blue pill society Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
why do you find it necesarry to post under a different handle 10 times on the same article, and i always notice that you make your appearance on the same articles as reconmoron, you do change up your grammar style though, guess the millitary training for disinfo opps is getting more and more sophisticated, you can go back to your commander (once again) as i have told you to in the past, tell him even with the better training, your operations are having little effect and that you think that this op is totally pointless, hopefully he sends you off to some really dangerous country where you can be dealt with.
quinny Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
As a matter of fact it is “imminent”. Within the next two years
you will see things happen in this country that no one would
have believed possible in a “free and Democratic Republic”.
And it certainly will not be the fault of “Arab Terrorists”.
April 8th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
This woman’s story seems plausible to me. It makes sense that when a military base has a sudden unannounced event (only if they weren’t participating in the drills that day), they would send most people away so there would be fewer distractions. Certainly, if the people in charge were following proper protocol, they would still need some hands on deck. They wouldn’t have looked at this woman as a “witness” since they weren’t doing anything wrong. In fact, the pilot who shot down the plane is practically the only one who did the right thing that day!
libertybell Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
That’s one of the few plausible or factual details. It’s also plausible that whoever first saw a plane hit the Towers would have said “Oh sh1t!”. And it’s factual that the hospital on Ft. Meade is called Kimbrough.
That military bases would have gone on alert on 9/11 is just logical.
That “Oh, sh1t!” was a common reaction is obvious.
That the hospital on Ft. Meade is called Kimbrough can be found on the Army’s Ft. Meade website. And a 1000 other sites.
Doesn’t take sophisticated hoaxery to come up with that info.
April 8th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Boy, you tinfoil morons must be foaming at the mouth over this bullshit story. Hey, I was on flight 93 and I can tell you that it was not shot down. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah.
April 8th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
I have always had the feeling that 9-11 never came off quite the way they expected and that our reaction was not the same as what they got from us after pearl harbor. That plane was probably supposed to take out congress so martial law could be imposed and we would just go attack whoever they told us to. They figured it worked when we did it at pearl harbor so why not now?
blue pill society Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
it was a total fuck up bill, they attempted to pull of a 1950’s style opp in 2001. Basically they weren’t expecting every last media contradiction and even government contradiction to be recorded and available on the internet for all to see. This was trully the first big operation that was conducted after the internet had exploded into the mainstream. Basically they didn’t expect all of their misdoings to go so viral. Why do you think we haven’t seen any terrorist attacks on this continent in close to a decade. Because radical islam is a boogeyman that they created that really doens’t exist. you run a bigger risk of dying in a car accident than a terrorist attack, this is even true in Israel where they have alot more terrorist attacks than here (not saying those are islam either, those are a combo of islam and mosad)
April 8th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
When Spiders speak about Spiders = Evil vs. Evil and nothing changed….you called MEA Culpa!
You speaks like a demon..first not than yes…
April 8th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Well said
April 8th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
I see that the asshole parade must not be in town today otherwise you’d be there…huh reconmarine.
Go play with your nanotechnology …run along now.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
The fourth plane was intended to hit the Whitehouse (see the film ‘Independence Day’, just as the whole 911 false-flag looks like a remake of the plot from ‘The Long Kiss Goodnight’). The idea was simple
-ATTACK AGAINST THE CIVILIAN POPULATION (WTC)
-ATTACK AGAINST THE MILITARY (PENTAGON)
-ATTACK AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT (WHITEHOUSE)
So why did Cheney and Blair’s team cancel the Whitehouse strike, and shoot the plane down instead? The answer lies with the psychology of the psy-op. What would have been the front-page story/photo across the planet had the plane struck its intended target?
With photos of the destroyed Whitehouse dominating the world’s press, the danger was that the world would have cheered. Within the group of people who oversaw the false-flag, debate raged as to whether the Whitehouse should be a target or not, and clearly the settled answer was that they would hold a strike on the Whitehouse as a clear possibility, if the events at the WTC failed to occur as planned.
As we now know, Cheney and Blair’s plan was successful beyond belief in NYC, with only a minor deviation from target by the second plane (requiring, as a consequence, that the tower struck second was the first to have its pre-installed demoltion charges activated).
ASIDE- the second plane, by missing its impact point, sails straight through the building, and you can see the point at which explosives carried on board the plane are detonated, as the reinforced nose exits the building.
Like all magician’s tricks, full of misdirection at the time, later analysis makes the real mechanisms transparently obvious. Being fooled by a trick at first holds no shame, for the trick plays on various levels of psychology that exploit ordinary expectation.
As for this women talking about a ’shoot-down’, this REEKS of a ‘poison the well’ operation, and admitting as much in the article does NOT protect the 911 truth movement from damage by printing the article, as Jones well knows. Only an idiot fails to understand that this plane was shot down, but knowing it WAS shot down does not help the 911 truth movement at all. Why? Because even a total idiot can suggest that a government might be concerned at the fallout from shooting down a jet full of civilians, regardless of the circumstances, and regardless of 911 truth.
In other words, even if 911 occurred as Bush stated, Bush’s people would still have an incentive to lie about shooting down the jet.
buckwheats Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:03 am
“With photos of the destroyed Whitehouse dominating the world’s press, the danger was that the world would have cheered.”
I would think that images of the Pentagon being struck would be sufficient cause to make anyone that had a bone to pick with the US cheer. Maybe 93 was headed for the WH, maybe congress as some suggested. In any case, the flight 93 hero story gives off the same odor as the Jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman hero stories.
“As for this women talking about a ’shoot-down’, this REEKS of a ‘poison the well’ operation,”
Yes I suspect this may be the case as well. It will be interesting to see if this story starts getting mainstream attention. If it does, then I predict it will be built up for a time and then revealed as a hoax complete with tearful recanting of testimony by the perpetator.
Eric Vaughan Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 7:55 am
Vein, I think so much of your post, I’ll tell you this. For all we know, the PNAC “Pearl Harbor” prediction and the missing $2.3 trillion from Dov Zackheim’s Pentagon budget may well have been all a part of an underwriting for the blame should this Weird War comic movie go south. If the meglomaniacs who celebrate a holiday today were not the chosen people of the Book of Revelation handpicked by God to control the world’s oil, they would take full responsibility for the 9/11, Afghanistan, Iraq messes. (Even the media stories and movies leading up to 9/11 from the Summer of ‘01 scream conspiracy loud enough for Joe Sixpack to get it.)
I think this is too hot a potato to be handled to poison the well.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
hey liar, you said you were going back “overseas” over 2 weeks ago, yet here you still are, obsessing over 9/11 activists as always. why did you lie? and whos on O’Reilly tonight you tool?
April 8th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
The trolls work very hard to protect murderers.
Hard enough to become accessories ~
buckwheats Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:52 am
Running interference for the biggest mass-murderers in US history makes them feel important themselves.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
My biggest problm with thisstory is NOT that they were sitting so close to the commanders at the table—but why this woman waited nearly 8 years to tell this story. 9-11 was an inside job, no doubt about it and Flight 93 WAS shot down. Has anyone seen the 1994 photo of the field in Shanksville where the plane hit in 2001 showing the big slit in the ground already there 7 years prior? The only difference between the 1994 photo of the Shanksville field and the day of 9-11 after the plane hit is that there was an added hole in the center of the big slit in the ground. I personally believe that the big slit was there already (as the 1994 photo shows) and somebody (military?) set off an explosion inside the big slit creating the appearance that a big plane crashed there.
Watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Another issue I have is when people keep saying “maybe Flight 93 was headed for WTC 7???”—well, how could that plane have been meant for WTC 7 when the explosives already had to have been in the building for days–weeks before 9-11? You cant have it both ways. Either the building was previously rigged with explosives of Flight 93 was meant to knock it down. They couldnt have decided to rig the building after they found out Flight 93 was downed—they would have had no time. Any thoughts on this?
secret agent man Reply:
April 13th, 2009 at 7:32 am
None of the buildings – on 9/11 or otherwise – were ever knocked down by any aircraft crashing into them. That was a smoke screen to make most of the people believe that. Apparently its still working.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Squealer whoops I mean Reconmarine, I knew you could not resist a 9/11 article.
I would agree with you that this particular story sounds fake but I still think the jet was shot down by the debri field.
blue pill society Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
true that norman, again, it’s another Amtrak video they can put out so that Glenn the Asshole beck can debunk 93 being shot down or some shit. It’s really getting pathetic.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
this is not worth reporting unless she is willing to come forward..anybody can make up a story,,,that doesn’t mean i don’t believe 9 11 was an inside job cause i do
April 8th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
LFAMO,
Consider this. Photons in a room will release their energy when they hit a TV screen (regardless of type, old cathode ray, plasma, or LCD). Each photon carries information of what is in the room (It is how a digital camera works, the photon hits a CCD and the energy of the photon becomes recorded in the camera memory).
If you have a known signal entering a TV device, If you would send an exact opposite signal on top of the original signal, the patterned energy remaining would be a video camera view of the contents of the room.
Don’t know if they do this, but the possibility does exist. At least something for an intelligent person like yourself to consider.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Hey reconmarine(yeah real tough name lol) theres obviously a reason your using a name like that. because you have no ability to think for yourself, you need some other guy breathing down your neck and changing your diapers to get you to do what he wants. yeah your a real independent type of individual. and it’s really pathetic you hang around this website looking for attention. maybe you should go visit your drill sergeant and have him give you a snuggle for the attention mommy and daddy never gave you. loser.
you liar Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 5:17 am
he uses that name because it makes him feel better about being a dupe with a small penis and even smaller intellect. its called overcompensation and reconmarine is all about it.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
It’s all messed up as all psy ops are. It’s possible that their op went sideways on them and either 93 crashed or was shotdown, i don’t agree that inside job and shootdown are irreconcilable. Who knows why alot of shit happened that day. All i know is that the Media and Hollywood have perpetuated this Hero image of the passengers when their own re-enactments of events are totally false. In the movie for example, they make the cockpit much bigger that it actually is to allow feesability for both “terrorist to hold knives the the pilot and co-pilot simultaneously. This is absolutely absurd, there is 0 room in a cockpit for that. There are also about 100 different things about the movie plane that were made out to make the story feasible. If you want to know what i mean, take a short flight just to get a feel for the planes, i’ve been on 200+ commercial airliners in the last 2 years so i know how cramped those things are. As well, i keep my cell, and blackberry on all the time (guess i’m a terrorist too) and i never even receive a phone ring t’ill i’m about 1000 feet from the runway. So the whole half hour conversations with family members is a load of crap. I’m not gonna say i know exactly what went down that day, but i can surely say what didn’t happen. It’s a shame everything was covered up, now we will never know the real truth.
jason Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Amen Brother, well said. Youd think that if 93 crashed where it was supposed to you’d have wreckage in the immediate vicinity and this was not the case. Reporters on the scene in fact said there was no wreckage whatsoever, just a smoking hole in the ground. Was this hole bombed or was it dug up with a backhoe prior to the “crash”? Was the hole ever tested for explosives residue? I reckon anyone who believes the official story is an idiot.
I have thought long and hard about whether or not Fl 93 was intended to hit building 7 as a cover to bring it down, as we know by all accounts a great deal of the operation was run from Guiliani’s bunker. It seems to make sense, however on the face of it this operation was completely successful technologically and I cant see how those who planned this would not have thought of the possibility that at least one of the planes could have gone astray, and worked that into the plan. This leads me to believe that the no-planes theory is a possibility…. that would eliminate anything going wrong with the “planes”.
As far as this womans account goes, why on earth would they ask her and the other lower ranks to face the wall whist they were in the presence of these military leaders? And to think that in an emergency such as has never happened before, someone would think of catering the event?!?! Preposterous!
blue pill society Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Agreed Jason, i’m not even close to convinced that her testimony is credible, as i said in a later post, this could just be more co-intel that they later completely debunk as to finally answer the question of 93 being “shot down”. Wouldn’t be the first time we’ve seen this.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
last person who spoke too a president in person about this shit, ohh where is she now. Oh ya, her plane crashed 2 months ago just outside of buffalo, wow that is a fuckin coincidence and a half. Alot more plane crashes nowadays. Plus you are a fuckin stupid moron, I’m not saying that this shit above is gospel, but you never know, hey weren’t you supposed to ship of for another tour about 2 weeks ago reconmoron, oh you are doing your service, your job is too go on blogs and spew your disinfo. Plus for you post above where you said the debris woulda been spread over miles, news flash asshole it was, a few different media outlets let it slip and got footage, there were parts for well over 5 square miles so i guess you just helped prove another point. Everybody just ignore the big pink elephant.
Pepper Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
OH, you want to go one better….???? The Israeli Foreign minister contacted the airlines of that flight you just mentioned, Blue Pill, and inquired as to the whereabouts of TWO ISRAELI’S WHO HAD RESERVATIONS ON THAT FLIGHT.
The families of the men contacted the Israeli foreign minister to ask him to find out where their husbands were since they were booked on that flight that went down and they wanted to know about their husbands.
The Airline denied they were booked on that flight… coincidence???? Then later they said they were booked but never showed up! Yeah right. LOL Remember that crowd of Israeli’s on top of that truck celebrating as the towers collapsed? And don’t forget there was a crew sent in for three days before the towers were hit to supposedly do a power down to fix some “electrical problems” and no one was allowed in the towers during that time…. Israeli’s??? who knows.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
she’s lying – proof – 93 was never found unless the plane vaporized 100% as no plane parts were found at the fake crashsite. 93 was in service afterwards too.
Ten years later? Right. I wonder how much she’s getting, apparently there are trillions to go around and pay anybody off for anything. Yep, that’s what the USA has become.
Her idea is to verify the existence of 93 at all by saying it was ordered shot down, which it was not. But since there was no plane at the “crashsite”, if they ‘leak’ out it was shot down, that discredits the no plane found problem. Just keep feeding the lies into the mainstream to achieve the desired results. In this case, make the people believe it was shot down to cover up the fact that no plane parts were ever found, nor any body or anything but dumped garbage to ’seed; the site.
buckwheats Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:48 am
“I wonder how much she’s getting, apparently there are trillions to go around and pay anybody off for anything. Yep, that’s what the USA has become.”
It’s all funny money at this point anyway. Better spend what you got on something tangible. Pretty soon that paper is gonna be next to worthless.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
A buddy claimed he had a CIA friend who told him it was indeed shot down.
If this story is true I’d probably do the same as there’d be no adage to revealing who you are. It’s probably more impactful to remain anonymous as people are only going to believe what they want to.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Did the recovery crews find any box cutters? lol Or a black box flight recorder? Probably all “disintegrated” in the “crash”. lol
So much for the emotionally moving “heroes” story……
salome Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
butter this,biscuit…what kind of explosive devices were on board ?
yeah,you dunno either.
and the morons in charge of their investigation haven’t flt fit to tell us.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Wait…so 93 was shot down over Shanksville??? So there really was a plane??? And the USAF was actually allowed to chase after and intercept a hijacked plane on 9-11?
What happened to the “stand down” order? What happened to no plane crashed in PA? What happened to the USAF was not allowed to successfully pursue and intercept the planes??
Has Alex Jones abandoned MIHOP……AND LIHOP too????????????
This is revolutionary. Prisonplanet has just debunked 1/3 of the “9-11 Inside Job” theory!!!!!!
Nice job Alex. Thanks buddy..you earned your pay..again.
Larry Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 6:05 am
Michael—–when did ANYONE EVER say there was no plane in PA? Tell me when that has been uttered ONCE by ANYONE in the truth movement. If a stand down order was given to flight 93, that means the plane would have went on to hit its target. 9-11 was all about the twin towers—-nothing else really. A plane did NOT hit the Pentagon because if it had—-it wouldnt have taken 20 minutes for the outside wall to collapse—it would have been damaged bad enough to have collapsed on impact. They just wanted minimal damage to the Pentagon for a visual effect, nothing more. 9-11 was all about visual effects, and Im not talking about the same kind of visual effects in movies. Im talking about real stuff here but 9-11 was about implanting images in our heads, not about actual physics and kinetic energy. If the governments story is true, then science was altered that day and just that day. I want to know where you ever saw ONE person claim NO plane was in PA. We have said no plane crashed in the “official story” crash site—but a plane WAS downed—it didnt “crash”–it was blown away. Theres NO evidence that a plane actually hit the ground in Shanksville, it was shot down.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Your wrong there, Recon, the wreckage WAS scattered for miles all over the place and that is not even disputed anymore. We had video proof of it. Also, the witnesses said the opposite, they saw another plane tailing this plane and it looked like a military plane, and that was from quite a few witnesses on the ground.
Finally, Some said they heard the explosion well before the debri came down so it wasn’t the plane “crashing”, it was the debri that came down, and I never saw anyone interviewed who said they saw the plane crash….. not one soul. In fact, most I saw interviewed said they believed the plane was shot down. So there you have it.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
What planes? I never saw any damn planes. And the CGI they did to show you planes on the TV was a freaking joke. If you think their were civilian planes used and with people in them you need to do more research. Cause the real story that they don’t want you to know is their never was any damn planes.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
I remember this day vividly. I was watching a news channel (not sure which one) and I remember them saying ” there is a plane heading toward the White House and fighter jets have been scrambled”. I remember this because I told the people I was with, “they will shoot that plane before it gets there”. then I heard no report of the jets but that the plane had gone down by the passengers. There is no doubt in my mind,from that day until now, that a “shoot down” order was issued. There is no way they would allow that plane to have a flight pattern toward the White House after all that had up to that point.
blue pill society Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
very interesting, this is just a hypothesis but is it maybe possible that the 93 was supposed to go to building 7, but seing as it was still too far out, it would be heatbag not to shoot it down. So the “orchestrators” saw that building 7 had sustained damage and seing that aerial shots didn’t show much detail on the “extent” of the damage they decided that the fires and the debris damage from WTC 1 & 2 was sufficient cover for it’s demolition. They then decided to shoot down 93 but then say it was due to the passengers overthrowing the “terrorists”. This makes the orchestrators win on both sides, not only do they get their complete desired outcome, they also get the false Hero story that they can then use to silence dissent. All who are sucked in by the lie mobilize their belief systems by these “truths” that are fed to them (much as the other side blames us for having blind belief). This is also apparent because in the beginning this epic tale that was told about these “patriotic passengers” that basically took one of the team, caused any dissent to be shotdown as it was disrespecting the victims and these heroes. People really need to look into the pshycology of all this stuff.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
You would be right, IF, this had not been an inside job, but it was. That is why CHENEY WOULD NOT CHANGE HIS “STAND DOWN” ORDER to not shoot down these planes. I believe flight 93 was suppose to hit Congress, kill most of our reps and thus MARTIAL LAW WOULD HAVE BEEN DECLARED since that is one of the acceptable reasons in the Constitution for declaring martial law.
That is why they didn’t care what we saw or HEARD FROM WITNESSES that day because under martial law no one would have been allowed to question it without being arrested. All of this would have been buried…
I think this woman is full of it, but I do believe a hero pilot shot down the plane against cheney’s orders and that is why we don’t have martial law right now. It was all botched.
Remember, Jeb Bush, anticipating flight 93 issued an Executive order ON 9/7/01, SIGNED BY HIM ON 9/7/01 AND THE ORDER WAS DATED 9/11/01, he had to cancell that martial law for the state of florida because the plane never reached the congress.
War Is Peace Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:45 am
I agree with Pepper completely…I think this new “Whisleblower” story is deliberate disinfo, put out to explain the actual evidence in a way that’s not totally inconsistent with the “Official Story”. I think 93 was shot down by a fighter pilot who disobeyed orders (our hero!) and foiled the plot, which was to have Martial Law on that day. If we were under Martial Law, there would have never been a 9/11 Truth Movement. The fact that Jeb declared Martial Law in Florida the Friday before 9/11 is enough proof for me that THEY intended to have Martial Law as the result of their false flag.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Her story is total BS! Privates do not have access to high level officers conference rooms especially at Ft Meade. It is also very doubtful that she had/has a TS/SBI SCI (look it up)security clearence as a Private especially working at Ft Meade home of the NSA. I have worked at Meade, Detrick, Site R, etc. as a commo tech. Kinda know what I am talking about.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
So I guess that scar on the ground which was proven to be there several years before 911 was just another mistake…………………………… Please. Those bastards did it, and they will pay in time. God will make sure.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
“”Nelson subsequently felt frustrated when anyone talked about the manufactured myth of the Flight 93 heroes”"
……….and also states she “feels revulsion” about their heroism.
I feel distinct revulsion at her statementS and smell pure,unadulterated bs,and truly wonder why alex jones publishes this kind of garbage.
for what it’s worth on this moonbat filled site–
1.she states it was shot down due to be in a “no fly zone”……..what the hell do you think the airspace for miles around the wtc was ? anything shot down miles before nyc ?
no because the faa/logan dicked around wasting time-
2.conversations are documented from fl 93…her’s AIN’T.
3.how did this person have access to the conference room to eavesdrop on privledged conversations ? a private ??? and of course,it’s NOW news. why ? she voted for obongo and he’s in. how do I KNOW ? please……
4.why DOES ajones persist with bs ?
April 8th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
this lady is lying. her vocal hesitations give her away. any hesitation is suspect and hers are at points of factual information…”under…ground”…indicates she does not have a visual concept of the object she is talking about. she was never there. she is pausing to make sure she has it right. and i state again, what is the point of hiding your name when all identifying information is given?
wondering why alex would post this.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:04 am
This looks like an attempt to increase the “Truth Movement” people keep talking about. The NWO’s benefit in this is that we’re all polarized against our own government, elected by ourselves. So anyone asking you to join a parade shouting “Nine Eleven Was An Inside Job” is just trying to instill anti-government sentiment in you, so that eventually you “go with the flow” and buy a gun and stockpile food and convince others that the government should be brought down. This would eventually lead to a newer world order just like the one you’re trying to avoid.
THE NEXT SENTENCE WILL MAKE YOU VERY ANGRY if you’re too stupid to understand at this point in your SLOW evolution, but the advice will solve all problems:
Love and accept your fellow humans and quit thinking they have an ulterior motive for you.
global plantation serf Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 6:00 am
“…and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.”
– Jesus Christ, Luke 22:36 NKJV
April 9th, 2009 at 12:09 am
I am just stating facts. AND SHE IS FULL OF BS! PERIOD!!!!!
I support Alex 100% except this time. Why would they post this BS story on this site without following it up? Lemme ask here where she was, what building, what room and I can tell you that she couldn’t even tell me.
I listen to the webcast after work. (I’m overseas now). I hope Alex brings it up on the show and somebody calls in to challenge and prove this is total BS and Alex will look like a fool.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:38 am
I agree with the writer of the story. The fact that they were allowed within earshot seems suspicious. However, I recall times in my life where I’ve been permitted to be within earshot of confidential convesations. One reason could be that some at the table wanted an outside witness to what went down in case the coverup failed and heads began to roll in a court of law. Even if it IS disinfo, it tends to energize the 911 truth movement. Most in the movement are sophisiticated enough at this point to know to be cautious and use discernment when these nuggets of information fall. Still another reason this person may have come out is simple self preservation. There may be a buzz in the military that more will be revealed soon as the actions of the government force the hand of those with a shred of conscience left. If it were me, and I counted myself as one of the good guys I would want to stand up and be counted when I sensed that all hell was about to break loose. This way, I would not be counted in with the ones who are going to jail and pay the price for their crimes.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:15 am
“loser” is spelled with one o dumbass. and you really have time to troll websites? where overseas are you? and whos on O’reilly tonight tool?
April 9th, 2009 at 6:10 am
Since our government will never tell us the truth, we have to search for it ourselves, and get these bits of information that we often can’t verify.
Our government does not tell us the truth because they don’t want us to know the truth for their own evil reasons, usually monetary. Unfortunately for them, some people don’t like to be lied to.
I believe this is because our government is not ours. It belongs to corporations, and advertisers who don’t wish to offend anyone, so everything is empty-headed happy and politically correct. The world is a lot more interesting when you can peek around the curtain and see the real Wizard of Oz.
michael Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:46 am
not everything told to us by the govt. is a lie. only a paranoid delusional believes in such crap.
April 9th, 2009 at 6:30 am
I am currently serving in the US Air Force and through personnel I have talked with we have reason to believe FLT 93 was shot down by an F-16 from the ‘Happy Hooligans’ squadron, 119th FW ANG out of North Dakota. The 16’s were there from 1990-2007.
Depending on the range of FLT 93, the aircraft would have been intercepted with either an AIM-9LM or an AIM-120, more than likely an AIM-120 as the F-16 does not carry any other air-air missiles excluding the AIM-9X which was not operational at the time of the attacks.
Under the umbrella of NORAD the 119th FW would have been under ‘Operation Noble Eagle’, the defense of CONUS. Approximately 2-4 aircraft would have been loaded ‘Hot’ and flying sorties throughout the duration of their ‘ONE’ Assignment. With a call from the SEC-Def the base commander would have expedited the immediate interception of unauthorized aircraft. With an absence of orders the commander would revert to the ‘SOP’ (Standard Operation Procedures) and ‘ROE’ (Rules of Engagement) within his mission parameters, and still order the interception.
If you think this is the whole truth you are mistaken because a after action report would be held in the pentagon and the incident would be labeled TS (Top Secret) and filed away for a very long time. In my opinion the world will change so much that by the time the truth is available it will matter little.
‘The truth is rarely pure and never simple.’ -AFOSI
http://www.119wg.ang.af.mil/
April 9th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Largest piece of a plane is in the photo. No titanium engine parts, heavy steel langing gear parts, seats, fingers toes, etc. Air to air missiles do not vaporize airplanes. Also, explain how the largest piece of debris is part of the aluminium airframe and not one of the heavy metal parts. This is just more disinfo being releases to detract from the fact that there was no plane in Pennsylvania or the Pentagon. If there were planes, they were diverted and the passengers were disposed of. Rumm “accidentally” admitting that a plane was shot down is far better than someone finding out the passengers were murdered or there was never a plane which would prove a conspiracy. It is pretty convenient that this comes out about the same time as the active thermite report on the WTC debris. The NWO is smart and they throw information like this out to keep people like us confused.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:25 am
I find Paul Joseph Watson’s stuff is more for the people who’ve followed this adoptation of Orson Wells’ War of the Worlds from the start. If you didn’t care for They Shoot Horses, it’s doubtful you’d care for the directors cut type of thing.
I think this is historic, like the collapse of the story that Iraq had WMD. Obviously, propaganda could’ve been created to support the lie, but the lie had too many flaws, like the Cuban public’s reaction to the Bay of Pigs. If Flight 93 was flying towards Site R, that is another unbelieveable display of savantism all on the same day from some of the world’s most illiterate people. The state may be flaking off the blame for its participation on to the greedy scum who had the most to gain for all we know.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:24 am
There Recon goes again… LOL… direct from one of his “books” of misinfo…
“A year later, Wally Miller explained that “All that debris, and the fact that only 8 percent of the human remains could be recovered, mean the site is, essentially, a cemetery”.[19] ”
There’s another example of a plane vaporizing into thin air. Pretty amazing. I don’t think I’ve every seen a plane crash site like the one from the pics of Shanksville.
All kinds of “1 in a million” events took place on that day apparently.
Then again, all that is quite silly since we all know Recon is a paid disinfo agent, a traitor to his country and the stripes he wears, and completely full of shit.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Now I heard they landed that plane and all the people were taken elsewhere. If so where are they? Did it ever occur to anyone that these people may actually be at a FEMA camp and the plane that got shot down was actually a drone?
April 9th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Also go out and look at the list of who was on all these planes. Most were with military supply companies and nuns and such. Really strange.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Doesn’t sound credible to me. I doubt that such a command would be issued in the presence of a lowly private.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:56 am
I saw an hour long video of the pilot (Lt Col Rick Gibney) and the crew of the Happy Hooligans plane that shot down flight 93 – “119th Wing – Happy Hooligans – North Dakota Air National Guard” being award a commendation medal by the Governor of their home state. There was a High School band and all. This was a LEGITIMATE AWARD CEREMONY……………
Crew members spoke but Gibney did not speak. But they all stood to receive the hero’s award for bravery.
Ironically, an official US Senate website praises the unit to the high heavens but with NO MENTION of them shooting down the plane…………I include a quote so you can see the “cover-up” language they are using ………….
QUOTE” In 1998 the Happy Hooligans moved from North Dakota and established a permanent alert detachment of F-16s, pilots and ground crews at Langley Air Force Base in Virginia. Their mission was to provide air defense for Washington, DC, and other locations along the eastern seaboard. That mission came to an end on October 12, 2006.
I cannot talk about the Happy Hooligans alert mission without mentioning the events of 9/11.
The attack on the World Trade Center in New York precipitated an order for the fighters of 119th Fighter Wing’s alert detachment to scramble from Langley. Three North Dakota Air National Guard F-16s took to the air, but regrettably they were not yet over Washington’s airspace when American Airlines flight 77 hit the Pentagon. They were still some minutes away. But they then flew, as I understand it, 7 or 8 hours that day performing combat air patrol over the skies of Washington, DC.
In the shock of that morning, I have to tell you that I will never forget what it meant to look up to the bright blue September morning sky and see F-16 fighter planes flying air cover over the Nation’s Capitol. We found out later those were the Happy Hooligans from Fargo, ND.” END QUOTE
April 9th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
ok, this is not true. there is no way they would pick a private IN TRAINING to sit in a room that is suppose to be top secert. NO WAY! you cant tell me there was no one else on base available.
they are just trying to stir up some bs b/c they want to turn people against their own country. trying to get people to fight their own government. she should be treated as the terrorist
April 9th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
How the fuck do you know how many were involved? Did you ever pull off such an operation? THAT’S WHY WE NEED A REAL INVESTIGATION. No wonder the official lie makes sense to you, you make so many unfounded assumptions and act like they’ve already been proven.
April 9th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Hey faker ………..your a bit off huh? Go visit Cheney ok………!!
April 9th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
By “off” I meant off your rocker!!!
April 9th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
According to the post I made a few up…………the Happy Hooligans DEFINITELY SHOT DOWN FLIGHT 93 . What will it take to convince you doubters here??????
April 9th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
If true, would you rather have them crash into something else that is populated?
If you dont like what this country does, dont come here and get the fuck out. you conspirecy theroist.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Hey FAKIR ………..Not only are you a nut case but your also a viscious one. I see that you’ve got some MURDER IN YOUR HEART HUH?????????? Your a creep alright…..Homo’s like you will be taken care of one day………
your a bit off huh? Go visit Cheney ok………!!
April 9th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
FAKIR you ought to learn your spelling lesson too…..idiot!!
(sic) —> conspirecy theroist. Ha Ha friggin dope
April 9th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
FAKIR…….. are you one of those vicious homo’s too. Like the faggot on a barstool? Huh
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April 13th, 2009 at 10:40 am
really? you have nothing to say to what i said so you are calling me a homo? what are you 12? i need spelling lessons, you can’t even copy and paste right.
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April 9th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Total BS – a radiological technician 3 weeks out of basic would not be called upon to deliver snacks and certainly not to “make copies”. She would have a clearance level of squat. If the base was on alert, as a medical technician, her station would be the hospital. The base is a giant installation and house many highly sensitive military intelligent branches AND the National Security Agency – They would not be “short” hands to secure the base. Her story is full of too many holes to continue here but any basic research into Fort Meade or simply military procedures will be enough to throw this story out.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Reconmarine,
Now that statement is true. At my place of work an Operations Supevisor has a son-in-law in the CIA and it is truth that they give routine polygraph tests to those in Langley to check if they may be telling people things they ought not to.
I have talked to enough actual military people to know that they do not blab. If you ask questions related to anything Secret or Above there patent response is “No Comment”
Even retired intelligence do not want to talk about certain things or they will lose connections.
I disagree with you about 85% of the time but this is one I will totally agree with.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
I was about to leave a post after listening to about the first twenty minutes and then I read RPB’s post and he stole my thunder haha! I was in the military and no way would they just go handing guns out to people willy nilly. And Army basic training is not 13 weeks, that is the Marines. There are a million holes in this story, I think it is a honey pot. Oh, and there isn’t a “sergeant’ corps. Its ENLISTED and OFFICER. You can’t even pass basic training without knowing that. This woman is a fraud. Probably put out their by James Meigs so he can debunk it. If you are still skeptical have someone who was in the militay listen to this and they will tell you everything wrong with her vocabulary and verbage concerning the military. Pathetic Meigs!
April 9th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Re-Con-Job,
Wrong again. One of the engines was found a mile from
the crash site. I guess it bounced there. Other wreckage was found
EIGHT miles away. Take a good look at the above photo and
compare it to other photos of crashed planes. Where is the
rest of the plane? Why did the coroner fail to find ONE body
at the crash site? Why has the coroner refused
to answer ANY questions about the absence of bodies
or even body parts? Re-Con-Job how many pieces of silver
did they pay you?
April 9th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
They would have shot down the plane simply because if the plane was
allowed to land it would have been revealed that the plane was
being flown remotely and would have exposed who was in control
of the plane. I believe the “hijackers” were patsies as well.
The control of the planes was taken from them and they
were just along for the ride and to serve as useful dupes
to create a never ending but very profitable “War On Terror”.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
no way someone that low ranking would be left in the room for that conversation or any conversation for that matter. that’s just how it is. “face the wall”, seriously, not buyin this one.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
Re-Con-Job
Wrong again! Ted Olsen said he received a call from his wife Barbara on
flight 77. Problem was, the FBI checked the phone records and have
testified in court, under oath that the call was NEVER MADE. In fact
they have testified to this fact on three separate occasions!
Man..you keep this up and they might have to find another
dis-info shill…
April 9th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
Re-Con-Job
Better to be an honest retard then a scumbag lying dis-info shill
who will sell his soul for a few pieces of silver.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
And that’s just where we find you…
April 10th, 2009 at 6:10 am
Don’t fall for the posers at The Project Camelot website. I don’t know what their game is, but they use information collected from real investigators like the kind Alex has on his show and Alex himself to create some story around their personal lives. Many say they have “defected” from the Illuminati as they sit in cheap apartments and ride around in 10 year old buicks. My best guess is that they are all charlatans.
April 10th, 2009 at 7:44 am
She may be lying about hearing the shoot down order but the plane was shot down nonetheless. You don’t get debris scattered for miles if a plane crashes into a field. You don’t have to be a genius to know that but you do have to be a fool not to.
April 11th, 2009 at 10:44 am
I live local to the area where flight 93 went down. I was home on that day and heard eye witness accounts of other planes in the air at the time 93 went down. I even called my wife at her work and told her that the plane was taken out right after it happened. That evening when she came home, we watched the local channels so she could hear for herself…..never heard another word about the “other planes” again.
April 13th, 2009 at 7:23 am
So, somewhere in all this obfuscation is the very real hand of disinformation. Showing that this administration is still “working hard” to deceive its own people. I find that this is the single biggest piece of evidence in all I read that no President gives the orders – instead the orders are given to him. The patterns are the same only the names and faces and rhetoric changes but the patterns are of the same hand.
April 13th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!