Comments on: More Examples Of Holdren’s Spectacularly Wrong Alarmist Rhetoric

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A Waving Flag on the Moon: Science in the Obama Era | Four Camels at Sea — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:24:10 +0000

[...] is worth noting that Holdren has been spectacularly wrong on things like energy policy. He and some academic colleagues famously bet economist Julian Simon [...]

By: rob

rob — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:26:44 +0000

Wasn’t Sonia Sotomayor born to a single mother? A mother that lived in the projects?
Wonder what Holdren would have done?

By: mysjif

mysjif — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:13:02 +0000

Aunty semite: I agree in one instance, first off, if population is at worst neutral what happened to Easter island’s previous inhabitants? Its relevant on a smaller scale. And secondly, SHOW me how technology improves streams and air? As far as I can tell lake Ontario is a cess pool due directly to the tecnology which has lengthened our lives and and also made us slaves to whoever controlls it. Technology makes life easier, when you’re stupid enough to look the other way and not see the drawbacks. Nuclear waste has entered the environment, why do we get so much cancer? Its because of us, and how we choose to live. I DO believe that, however killing almost everyone to save a few is a little much for anyone to decide they have the right to act upon.

By: Mojokabobo

Mojokabobo — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:35:37 +0000

jeebus man, I want to agree with you then i see the anti-semite pun.. change the name man.

By: Aunty Semite

Aunty Semite — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:14:16 +0000

From a prisonplanet advertiser:

“…the true food shortages which have sparked riots in other countries have thus far escaped the USA. It is foolish to think we are immune forever.”

But Holdren was *wrong*, and considering population control is *wrong*? Even though prisonplanet take advertising money and stuff the adverts in your face saying *THERE’S A FOOD CRISIS COMING!!!”?

By: joe

joe — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:46:58 +0000

MMS will counteract whatever they pump into our veins or our food or our water. Anybody that does not have MMS in their system will most likely die when the government puts their plans into motion. It’s that simple… Save yourself and your whole family for 20 bucks or wither away and die like the want you to. People! This is very serious!! Heed this warning! Protect yourselves, oh and by the way, never get sick again…

By: Aunty Semite

Aunty Semite — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:43:46 +0000

History shows that the I=PAT identity largely gets it backward. Population is at worst neutral, while affluence and technology actually promote environmental flourishing. It is in the rich, developed countries that the air becomes clearer, the streams cleaner and the forests more expansive.
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Hmmmm. What about the other story on prisonplanet atm doomsaying that the water is already posioned, *AS IF* it were being done on purpose to decimate the population………

that doesn’t suggest Holdren’s I=PAT is backward or wrong – it suggests he was right.

So – prisonplanet numpties – is prisonplanet’s previous article right – and therefore Holdren too. Or is Holdren wrong, and likewise prisonplanet’s past article wrong also?

I mean – how can Holdren be wrong about I=PAT if the water is as (recently) poisoned as prisonplanet suggests?

By: malevolent entities

malevolent entities — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:25:33 +0000

just went on to eric piancas site at UT jones was right this guy is a nut.. he has a bison named lucifer and there is a pic of him fressed as a druid. these are the types of dicks we are up against

http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~varanus/Everybody.html

By: observer

observer — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:03:16 +0000

So Holdren, Ehrlich and Stanford colleague John Harte lost their bet to Julian Simon and Ehrlich had to pay up, ey?

It should be said and remembered that Julian Simon quite obviously loved humanity and knew what he was talking about. Much like Buckminster Fuller.

On the other side, in reading Holdren and Ehrlich’s works, I get worried for good reason.

HOODWINKING THE NATION is a good book to start with Professor Julian Simon’s work. May he rest in peace.