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Nasa moon rocket Ares ‘could kill astronauts’
London Telegraph
Friday, Oct 31, 2008
A rocket at the centre of Nasa’s plans to return to the moon is so “dangerously flawed” it could kill its crew, agency engineers have claimed.
Concerns over the safety of the Ares craft prompted one engineer to resign, complaining of “catastrophic-level risks”.
The space agency has admitted that in certain conditions Ares could blast off into its own launch tower, and that other potential problems include the rocket vibrating so much that its astronauts could die before they reach orbit.
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But Nasa said the problems were “growing pains” and could be fixed before the US goes back to the moon in 2020.
“Nasa has a big reality check coming and I can’t begin to guess how it will all turn out,” Jeff Finckenor, a structural design engineer at the Nasa Marshall Space Flight Centre in Alabama, said in a memo to colleagues explaining his departure and quoted in the Times.
A prototype for the craft could be launched in Florida in July.
Once perfected, the rocket will be topped with a crew-carrying capsule which is intended to carry astronauts to the International Space Station and on longer-haul trips to the Moon and even to Mars.
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October 31st, 2008 at 7:22 am
Why are they wasting our money on this crap, the country is broke, bankrupt, but they keep spending money on B.S. like the space program, the goverment is run by out of control spend thrifts. we are barrowing more the $30 billion a day from china to keep the doors open in washington, bailing banks out, unlimited wars, and they want to go to moon again, are these people nuts, close all these programs down they are money pits. space will always be there, come back to it when you can afford it.
October 31st, 2008 at 9:47 am
cuz they want to control space too and have weapons there#1
October 31st, 2008 at 12:38 pm
use the electromagnetically atomic driven anti-gravity craft( the so-called u.f.os_ to go anywhere at the speed of sound, yes folks wake the fuck up! Google Nicola Tesla, anti gravity, Nazi Flying saucers, AREa 51, There are no fuckin aliens dumb twits! Only man made secrets! Where did you think all themissing trillions have gone to?Underground bases and Saucers of the Illuminati clique, dont think I am mad, e=mc2 is bullshit! A Fuckin Lie ! Jsut like the whole usa Democracy is one big fuckin circus! Democracy my ass!
October 31st, 2008 at 12:39 pm
area 51 nicola tesla, anti gravity craft man made suacers, google and learn the real truth they dont want you to know, that ufo s are made made flying machines, e=mc2 is bullshit!
October 31st, 2008 at 12:40 pm
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October 31st, 2008 at 1:24 pm
You know, this is not the time to be doing this! We need to fix our economy and our budget first!
Then we have other more important things:
Proper care for our vets!
Cleaning up our depleted uranium pollution according to Army regulations and the law!
Ending these pointless wars!
Re-training for our unemployed people!
October 31st, 2008 at 11:38 pm
It stuns me that NASA needs billions to go back to the moon; India by comparison spent less than 80 million on their recent lunar orbital mission, this included the multiple scientific packages it is carrying. One of which is a lunar impact device and sensor package. They are talking about a billion dollar spend to establish a moon presence. So, what in the hell is the USA doing spending perhaps a hundred times that much to achieve ostensibly the same result?
Obviously some of the money the US is spending is being spent on other unmentioned projects; what the hell are they or alternatively how much money is being sucked up as shareholder profits in the defense industry?
The entire thing sucks.
October 31st, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Global Plantation Serf:
Take your meds, get a good night’s sleep, and shuffle down to vote for Obama on Tuesday like the rest of the unemployed skill-less losers.
Good grief, just go collect the handouts the rest of the working folks are paying for, go back to your tall can in a bag, and shut the heck up.
November 1st, 2008 at 10:29 am
Why does this stupid fucking government persist in showing how fucked their thinking is by continuing with that dumb fuck agency NASA. What does NASA really stand for, North American Shitheads Association?!
November 1st, 2008 at 11:18 am
NASA will always put profit and politics over safety while handing out billions to contractors that do nothing. It’s just another government money machine for the few that can cash in for free. What a waste of money with all the problems here at home. All at taxpayers expense of course so that eventually some corporations can benefit from the programs. You and I will never see any payoff, just more lost tax dollars and debt. They can’t even get Hubble fixed and they want to go to the moon? WHY? To set up some military laser installation to target humans back on earth most likely.
November 1st, 2008 at 10:08 pm
The proposed target date for the lunch is 2020 ,by the time the project is finished the space craft will be obsolete .One thing that I can’t understand why is NASA having so many problems
with something that was done forty years ago.I disagree with the writers that say the space program is a waste of money,no doubt there is a lot of money that is spend unnecessarily and the lives of the astronauts are put second instead of being the top priority .The reason I say it is a worthwhile program is that a lot of technology has been passed down to the private sector
such as electronic chips, smoke detectors ,carbon monoxide detectors,great improvements in communications devices and a lot more.My idea is not to do away with the space program
but to do away with the scum that run this country.
November 2nd, 2008 at 5:38 am
I still dont believe they went to the moon the first time
November 2nd, 2008 at 10:39 am
Alot of people do not realise that the United States has two space programs. One is public, NASA, and the other is a top secret ” Black” space program that deals with reverse engineering of extraterrestrial spacecraft and hypersonic spacecraft such as ” AURORA”. These top secret, black operations are why the CIA engages in illegal arms and drug operations. They need funding for these projects and cannot achieve the levels of funding they need through congress so they sell and smuggle drugs in the U.S. and sell arms to third world countries all around the globe. This gives the shadow operatives billions of dollars of untraceable income. They operate unaccountable and immune for any crimes they commit.
November 2nd, 2008 at 10:58 am
The Great Moon Hoax that fooled the World,
The Earth is surrounded by the Van Alan Radiation Space Belts that are full of deadly radiation. 2020 A.D. gives them enough time to build
fake human robots that have no problem with all the deadly extremes of space travel.
November 2nd, 2008 at 2:18 pm
I wonder how many more engineers and astronauts that speak out about the problems at NASA will get killed during testing, or in some other manner…
November 2nd, 2008 at 3:20 pm
‘Return’ to the moon?
No man has ever come near to setting foot on the moon, we don’t have the technology now or even in the foreseeable future – like how much eveidence do we need? – according to this article they can’t even make a safe rocket to to carry them there nearly forty years after the first cold war hoax.
November 2nd, 2008 at 3:25 pm
They should rename the rocket ‘Arse’ – because nothing but bullshit will ever come out of it.
November 2nd, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Okay putting aside the moon landing hoax – there is real technical issues with this design. One is that it is an extremely long & slender body which means it is going to be prone to massive vibrations, along its length.
The real conspiracy here is that the usual gang of large aerospace contractors who built the shuttle, have made sure that the profit still comes in when the shuttle is wound down. The best way to do this was build the new rocket from shuttle parts, thus ensuring minimal refit of the manufacturing facilities. The obvious issue is the shuttle was designed in the 50’s and we have now far exceed the know how used to build it, so why use such old stuff. Its like me trying to build a winning formula 1 car from T-model Ford parts – stupid.
I for one would not sit on top of a pencil thin rocket made from a space shuttle SRB, and expect not to get vibrated to death. Even somebody with a basic understanding of engineering knows about “slender beam oscillations”, many also have seen those little tunning falks that a doctor puts near your ear to test hearing right?. Well think about it the SRB is a huge source of acoustic vibration, once this translates to a long slender body ( the rocket ) look out.
Now I don’t agree that we cant go to moon at all, because using existing and technologies we can do it today. We currently on a very regular basis send spacecraft to orbit over 20,000km above the Earth, we also send probes to Mars, Jupiter and even Pluto. The issue is not technology to do the job, the issue is the bullshit political impediments created by corrupt governments and their dealings with major aerospace contractors.
If we where prepared to drop all the crap and team up with the Russian’s for instance who already have developed and successfully flown the worlds most powerful space launcher (Energia), we could place a moon transfer vehicle into orbit. You can then take the astronauts into orbit and return them using the Shuttle if you have to save some national face.
Or NASA could have just given the contract to a company like Space X who is developing a far more modern and cost effective system commercially..Instead they get pushed around by congress, who we all know are on the corporate military/ aerospace industrial pay rolls. Not only this but you would have to find a way to redeploy the nearly 7500 people who support space shuttle manufacture and operations, which is a political nightmare for any senator.