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Neda Death Footage: Poster Child For A Million More Tragedies?
Establishment media falls over itself to broadcast footage showing death of young Iranian protester, yet completely refused to show victims of Iraq and Afghanistan wars
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, June 22, 2009
Western establishment media organs are tripping over themselves to broadcast tragic footage showing the death of a young Iranian woman allegedly at the hands of pro-Ahmadinejad forces in an effort to rally international opinion against the government of Iran, a stark contrast to their complete and total refusal to broadcast footage of the hundreds of thousands of innocent women and children killed in Afghanistan and Iraq by U.S. and UK troops.
Neda Agha-Soltan has become a poster child for the CIA-sponsored color revolution in Iran after tragic and shocking scenes of her death were uploaded to You Tube the day after she was gunned down in Tehran on Saturday.
Soltan is being hailed as a “martyr” and “the face of the Iranian protests” by major western media outlets in emotional news reports such as the following CNN piece.
The hypocrisy is almost impossible to stomach. Hundreds of thousands of innocent women and children have been slaughtered in similar fashion by coalition forces during the bombardment and occupation of both Iraq and Afghanistan, and many of these deaths have been caught on camera. And yet the establishment media has blindly refused to broadcast any of it. Indeed, it could be claimed that the footage of Neda’s death has already been broadcast more times by the corporate media than the thousands of victims whose deaths were caught on film in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last eight years.
There’s no doubt that Neda’s vivid and shocking death is tragic to witness and a terrible loss for her family. However, the repercussions of the video circulating the globe via You Tube and its propaganda-driven exploitation by the west to demonize the Iranian government could have tragic consequences for many more innocent Iranians in the years to come.
The propensity for western governments to manufacture or exploit intensely emotional stories such as Neda’s death, and tragic events involving young women and children in general, in order to hoodwink populations into supporting phony wars of “liberation” has been proven time and time again.
One of the stunts used to sell the invasion of Iraq to the American people was the alleged capture and mistreatment of young female POW Jessica Lynch, who the Pentagon claimed went down in a blaze of glory in an attempt to throw off her captors and was subsequently “rescued” by U.S. forces. Lynch later revealed that the Pentagon concocted a Rambo fable around her image and that she actually never fired her weapon and was treated very well by Iraqi doctors who released her back to the U.S. military without incident.
The first invasion of Iraq was preceded by a similarly manufactured fable perfectly designed to tug at the heart strings and create a sense of outrage that won over a hesitant population into supporting a war.
Following the (US approved) Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990, an American PR company called Hill & Knowlton was paid $10.7 million by a Kuwaiti front group to devise a campaign to win American support for the war. Stories soon began to emerge of brutal Iraqi soldiers removing babies from incubators in Kuwait hospitals. A firestorm of outrage spread across the western media and the population demanded that something be done, completely unaware of the fact that the whole story had been completely manufactured with the intention of creating that exact reaction.
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Despite the fact that the Neda video shows nothing other than the sudden death of the woman after she was shot in the heart, the BBC, which the Iranian government has repeatedly accused of fomenting riots by means of bias and false reporting, quotes in a report today the woman’s fiance Caspian Makan, who states;
“Eyewitnesses and video footage of shooting clearly show that probably Basij paramilitaries in civilian clothing deliberately targeted her.”
The unedited video offers no evidence whatsoever for who killed Neda. For all we know it could have been the Al-Qaeda terrorists that the CIA has been funding to destabilize Iran. It has not even been established whether Neda was killed by a rooftop sniper or a passing motorcyclist, and yet the BBC is carrying matter-of-fact explanations of her death based on nothing more than conjecture without any clarification whatsoever.
This follows an embarrassing faux pas last week when the BBC was forced to issue a retraction of a photo they originally claimed represented a pro-Mousavi rally, when in fact the image was taken at a pro-Ahmadinejad demonstration.
The tragic death of Neda Agha-Soltan and its vivid capture on film is already being used as a propaganda tool by American, British and Israeli media outlets to harden western opinion against the Mullahs in Iran and grease the skids for a future invasion.
If we don’t heed the lessons of history and understand how sophisticated PR campaigns are routinely crafted around such events by western governments in collusion with their establishment media fronts, then the tragic death of Neda will be the catalyst for a million more tragedies in the years to come – the only difference being that you won’t see the deaths of those victims being broadcast on the BBC, Fox News or CNN.
The unedited video of Neda’s tragic death can be viewed below.
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June 22nd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Yah, since there are other injustices in the world, we should just sit back and let stormtroopers in black murder peaceful iranian protesters. It’s all the jews fault and we know that Iranian’s dictator who does not respect human rights says bad things about the jews. Therefore, we support his illegal election and his murder of civilians. We are freedom lovers. Well scratch that, we are jew haters, not freedom lovers. But we use the freedom we have left to hate the jews. Yay! Go PP on your AWESOME support for islamo fascist regime.
admin Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Where in the article does it say we support killing peaceful protesters? Please try and hold more than one thought in your head at the same time. In no way are we denigrating this tragedy, we are merely pointing out the hypocrisy of establishment media organs in that they only broadcast such footage when it supports the Anglo-American imperial agenda. Anyone who reads the article fully should be able to comprehend this perspective.
admin Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
In addition – nowhere in the article do we talk about “Jews” or “hating Jews” – this is merely a strawman you have invented in order to attack our crediblity – the classic hallmark of troll behavior.
jayblog Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Cointel-troll.
Atonix Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:56 am
By the way—have you people seen Youtube lately? There is a link on the top every page to the “Citizentube” video page…To me that is cheap supporting propaganda to CIA agenda on Iran. Every comment i make there is censurated.
Captain KIRK Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:18 pm
The hypocracy and lies the american people are fed every day by the MSM is beyond words. News is a joke in this country of “freedom” I was so ashamed and could hardly watch the horror that is imprinted in my mind of “SHOCK and AHH” the night we bombed Bagdad and the media made a spectator’s spectacle of it. It made me sick and rightfully so after the lies of why we did it wear revealed. I for one thought of all the innocent people we killed with each bomb and how this was freeing them and how we as a people could allow such to happen.
do trolls try to get first wack at most good aritcles here?
Support Peaceful Protestors Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
“we are merely pointing out the hypocrisy of establishment media organs in that they only broadcast such footage when it supports the Anglo-American imperial agenda”
It may also be worth considering whether or not it is hypocrisy for a Website that is all about the corruption of the elite to be so against showing any support for a people who are standing up for themselves and simply asking for new elections with third party validation rather than the elections they got where there was a) no exit polling allowed b) no observers allowed from anyone including any opposition c) very big irregularities like non-conservative areas that voted only 20% for the current government in this election supposedly voting 70% for them in this election.
The people are standing up in large numbers asking for new elections with transparency. Yet you see only another conspiracy and in so doing support the corrupt Iranian regime completely ignoring how anti-freedom they really are.
The funny part is, you’re supporting the regime the elite are actually supporting, they need their enemies and the last thing a lot of them want is a peaceful or free Iran that they can no longer fan the threat of war with.
That being said, I do appreciate PP’s coverage of world events, and generally speaking am quite supportive.
TruthSeeker Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:27 am
Listen satan worshipper the zionist’s ‘Green revolution’ in Iran has FAILED! I know who you are… your a zionist rat. Remember payback is a bitch!
Pete Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:27 am
Maybe the U.S. should ‘liberate’ the Iranian people ? Give them some ‘freedoms’ American-style?
This article simply points out the complete and utter hypocrisy that suddenly Americans are broadcast images of innocent people being killed in the Middle East with a completely sympathetic view (which is as it should) while we are never shown the images of innocent women and children being killed in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan BY OUR OWN FORCES.
PP does a great job of showing the mass conditioning that occurs in the MSM and you can believe that there is an ulterior motive for showing these images.
By now we should know that anyone talking about the Jews in a comment is a troll anyway…so probably wasted breath.
Sharon Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:03 pm
“Support Peaceful Protestors” Geez why don’t you just STFU and go away. Do you think we’re stupid enough to not know what you’re doing here ?
John Reply:
June 25th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
I guess you guys think of yourselves as “historical revisionists” or something, but I’m embarrassed for you. I will bet you anything that prisonplanet will at some point begin blaming Iranian twitters/blogs on Israeli conspirators (if hey have not already). Already this site is accepting laughably blatant Iranian attempts at shirking responsibility again, insinuating that the CIA is responsible for the sniping of Neda.
I found this page while googling for a transcript of the Iranian Ambassador who claimed essentially the same thing, and I can say with confidence that you guys really need to read some more, like, outside of conspiracy blogs. Yes there is a wealth of media out there, though they may not all be as frightening and entertaining and sensational as prisonplanet, the internet’s equivalent of Weekly World News.
The Truth Teller Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:27 pm
You are the 1st post here
How can you claim anybody is blaming Jews for this ???
I would say it is more the Zionist Pigs and the NWO lackeys who include alot of Jews but also all kinds of other people and religions
Stop with the anti-semite comments if you even know what that means
I do love the stormtrooper analogy maybe we should include Homeland Security in pink
Just look at what Irahell did to gaza and lebanon
Lets not forget about Rachel Corrie she was run over by an american made bulldozer (most likely bough with my TAX DOLLARS) run by IDF S/S troops
Illegal election I think you need to look at Amerika to see what an illegal election really looks like
And last but not least look at the fake republican convention in St Paul where they rounded up people before the event and also forced people to stay in so called FREE speech zones
Islamo Fascist Regime now you sound like Gouhliani and all the other sickos who parrot that phrase Look at Amerika if you want to see a facist commie state in the making
Do some research and learn the TRUTH and good luck with your peaceful protests you will need it
LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC !!!!
Support Peaceful Protestors Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Thanks for reading this comment, I’m not gonna lie, I did not read this article but I posted it out of frustration for the overall PP coverage of what’s happening in Iran and the kind of comments that are being posted by users under the news stories. It appears as though PP has taken a very black and white view that it is the elite that are stoking these fires and Ahmenedjad is a helpless victim.
This is hugely far from the truth. There are massive irregularities in these elections, the Iranian government censors it’s own people, does not provide any transparency whatsoever into the elections process to opposition or anyone and is undeniably playing up the ‘bad guy’ image with the West which is EXACTLY what the military industrial complex desires.
The people themselves are young, they don’t buy into this theocratic nonsense and they want legitimate change.
The reality is, the pictures of the 100,000 of thousands peacefully demonstrating are indeed being censored from Google Images and You Tube. Only days ago I watched videos and saw pictures of hundreds of thousands, now I can’t find these videos in search.
The elite of course have their dirty paws on this, but they’re on both sides. I’m personally on the side of the Iranian people and I think it’s really unfortunate that PP has taken an obvious line of support for the islamist dictatorship in Iran and are under the illusion this entire protest from people that are risking their lives to demand a better system is just the same old false flag kind of thing. Moussabi is not perfect, but the power is shifting to the people away from the elite, and this requires your support, not your condemnation.
I’m appologies for being inflamatory in the earlier comments, at least I got your attention.
Ron. Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:47 pm
SPP. This is where you are so wrong.
[ The people themselves are young, they don’t buy into this theocratic nonsense and they want legitimate change. ]
The protesters are not protesting against the theocratic system & anyone asserting that is reading far too much into it because all they are protesting is simply that the election was not as free & fair as it could have been period. This Moussabi character might be a [ re: controlled ] “reformer” [ there were Reformers in Canada too who were just a cobble of neo-cons & conservative Western populists ] [1] but Mousaabi in no way is proposing or is intent on bringing about an end to the current system. Moussabi is being sold as the new “Obama” who will bring “change” & look how well THAT turned out! Ron Paul was the only legitimate option to bring TRUE change just as some other obscure Ron Paul type Iranian politician might BUT this Moussabi is not him & would be in the mold of Obama just giving LIP SERVICE to the notion of change. Remember that all of the major political parties & political personalities around the world are in the pocket of the elite who control them & that includes Nelson Mandela who was an MI6 agent [1] & his predecessor F W De Klerk who brought abouot the “change” [ but not true change as per the usual scam ] but was in fact installed by British Intelligence. While all of this protesting does look promising from a LIMITED perspective: let’s not lose the plot & forget that the elite often STAGE MANAGE these political theaters & control the outcome because they control the personalities & the political realm. People as a whole have got to stop making heroes out of the very people who oppress them because the role of the “reformer” is not true attain true reform but to serve the very elite they often claim to “oppose” & to prevent an HONEST revolution.
Notes.
1. The Reform Party of Canada.
2. Mandela is named as MI6 agent.
3. De Klerk named as British asset in: The Sellout of a Nation.
Quote: [ The isolation of South Africa's euro-ethnics ... was a more direct result of U.S. foreign policy, i.e., the State Department. Carter played a bigger role. The CIA at that stage tried to infiltrate the so-called right wing militants to set up a base for reaction against the new government but failed because of MI6 (British) counter-actions. The U.S. wanted Dr. Gerrit Viljoen as president, but the UK succeeded to establish F.W. de Klerk. ]
Just remember that there is always more to any political development.
Ron. Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I forgot to place the numbers to the reference notes in a proper manner. 1 is right but a 2 should have followed “MI6 agent” & a 3 should have followed: “installed by British Intelligence”. Though I think it would be clear where the reference notes are linked to in the post.
Support Peaceful Protestors Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
I agree, this Moussabi character is probably the Obama for Iran. That being said, as you say, the people want fair elections, that means they want a better system. They are not necessarilly protesting for this Moussabi guy, they simply are sick of their crappy government and want to have real elections where their votes actually count.
I see that the people are standing up, the power is shifting to the people. When they get sick of the next guy, they’ll see that the power is in their hands for the real change. Iran did awake with these protest. They are not slaves to a corrupt government, they do in fact want a better system and I support that wholeheartedly.
Look in the MIRROR!! Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:10 am
DIDO “Support Peaceful Protestors”,
I am not sure where you are from on the this great blue ball spinning through space, however, lets look at some of your points…
1; Peaceful Protests being crushed by government…
now illegal or at best labeled “dangerous”, “terrorist activity” by the govn. and media c.i.p. The Tea Parties, 9/11 reinvestigation, supporters of Ron Paul etc, etc,
2; Fare elections…. excuse me for snickering but the USA is the last place to look for a “FARE ELECTION”… c.i.p. media time/press coverage unbaised and EQUAL FOR ALL CANDIDATES REGARDLESS OF THEIR AGENDA(s)…. Again Ron Paul and the 0ther candidates axcept for Obama, Clinton, McCain etc….. NOT TO MENTION THE ELECTRONIC VOTING BOOTHS- EASILY MANIPULATED AND NO SECURE RECORD OF VOTES….
3; YES THAT’S RIGHT…. The Muslims have a great and wonderful history in art, architecture, travel, sciences, health, society and yes LIKE THE CATHOLICS have negative sides too (CRUSADES, MOLESTATION, PEDOFILIA, POLITICS, GREAD (the canadian indians robed of their children placed in to catholic boarding schools and murdered as lab rats for land rights and still happening today) Ummm where should I stop…?
I am sorry “Support Peaceful Protestors” but your lack of understanding and research makes you PRIME 1° beef for the NWO Media disinformation… They are proffessionals at pushing “human” button and understand PERFECTLY how to play YOU so do all THEIR argueing…
Yes “They” know that “THEY” can only exist aslong as “WE” are unorganised… So your obviously well meant and sincere interest in being a GREAT HUMAN BEING (I am serious and not sarcasctic when I say this) is being used against you… That is the real problem makers are not the Iranians one side or the other… the real problem is that the truth is never obvious (even hidden in plain sight!!) and it takes a cool head and courageous heart to face these “World ” issues in a maner deserving and correct…
So lets take a look at this together and work it all out… Together we can over come anything..!!!
to be continued
Sharon Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Certainly it seems indisputable that the election was rigged but as another poster just pointed out, so was ours in 2008. If you don’t know that, then you need to start looking at blackboxvote.org and other similar sites.
So,
what Paul Watson is asking here is why the minute and labored attention to events in Iran as opposed to all the other places in the world where this happens, and AS OPPOSED TO THE VIOLENCE BEING ADMINISTERED TO THREE OTHER COUNTRIES RIGHT NOW, which is solicitously NOT shown.
Figure it out.
Jim Lunsford Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:08 pm
What an idiot peaceful protester.
PROPAGANDIST A$$CLOWN Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Ooh lookie. It’s a concern troll.
EPIC FAIL
Support Peaceful Protestors Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:13 pm
“concern troll” That’s pretty funny actually, thanks for the laugh
chris Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Oh, the poor Jews again. I feel so sorry for those poor repressed people who control Hollywood and all the banks of the world. Those poor poor people. I AM A PRO-SEMITE!! I AM A PRO-SEMITE!!
The Truth Teller Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Have to remember that one
Thanks
Skepticat Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:56 pm
SPP
Are you so ravaged by guilt that you assume every article about authoritarian regimes killing innocent civilians is somehow an indirect shot at Israel? Take your rage and guilt somewhere else, nobody cares about your twisted world view.
And yes there is a valid point to be made about the effective US media blackout on civilian casualties during the January massacre in Palestine vs. their coverage of this Iranian election debacle.
Most well informed readers here already know about the propaganda used to sell Gulf War 1 in 1991. One very specific story was said to have galvanized the views of American housewives in favor of war. It was the story of the crying Kuwaiti nurse and how big bad evil Iraqi soldiers came in and stole all the baby incubators from her hospital and left the babies to die…………..too bad the vile bitch was the daughter of a Kuwaiti politician and the whole story was a fabrication.
This death in Iran is real, but the spin job targeted to sell American women on a war with Iran is clearly in high gear with this story. You sound like a deluded Obama worshiper to me, seek help. If I am wrong about that, my apologies.
Your second comment shows a wee bit more balance and sanity.
Support Peaceful Protestors Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:20 pm
The jewish comment was because of all the scapegoating going on in the comment sections under the other Iran articles yesterday. They are really sick. Of course Zionism is a big problem. Do you really think it’s the only problem? Do you really think there are no elites behind the current Iranian regime that are at least as twisted? The story is much more complex than just ‘it’s the jews fault’ and there is so much of that going on in some of these threads. Admitedly, I also just don’t understand PP’s support for this moronic regime so I figure that may be part of the reason? Sure he calls out Israel, but he doesn’t give a crap about people, it’s all staged to create conflict, yet that somehow wins over support from conspiracy buffs. I think it’s sick.
Bastet777 Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:41 pm
SSP
I really don’t think anyone hear defends the present regime or it’s Prez. Alex Jones himself repeatedly says he is not in favor of the regime or the mullahs. He admit that they are corrupt and authoratarian.
It’s just that we are all a tad smarter than this and can see through the propaganda. If US overthrew the Iranian Gov back in 53′ what makes you think they can’t do it again? And what makes you think this Mousavi guy is any better? Do you even know his background? I don’t doubt there are many sincere protestors that are fed up with the current dictator government but one thing has little to do with another. I tell you they are going to get a CIA puppet government or become bombed to smithereens. Amnhamedajad (S) will be a cakewalk and you’ll be begging him back. (Just like many Iraqis wished Saddam would come back.) Please do research on the history of IRan and the CIA they maybe you will better understand PP position.
scott macrae Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:57 pm
you people a fucked up u like this shit u like to see pain what if that was ur mom or sister you would like it why dont you coe to my hood ill show you pain you must be really sorry mother fuckers 174 broadway washington heights nyc u fagots u people r sad mother fuckers you like gun shot vics
lowell green Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 10:59 am
scott macrae’s opinion is garbage.
Ron. Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:13 pm
The point that Watson is making of course is that the coverage is being USED to justify further Western polarization against Iran in order to rationalize a future INVASION as was done with Iraq! [ similar to what was done with South Africa in the past when the Western media hyped up the repression of the former regime (originally installed by the British rulers btw) in order to overthrow it & also more notably & overtly with the anti-Serb campaign of ten years ago used to rationalize the brutal bombing of Serbia ] How soon you forget! The Western media is at it YET AGAIN! Watson is not opposed to the demonstrators. What he is opposed to is the media USING it as convenient AGITPROP to justify the meddling or invasion into Iran which will cause far MORE deaths! Please try to get some perspective here! Just as the demonization of the humble Boer people [ who are not part of the Afrikaners ] is done in order to “justify” their genocide because they are a threat to the New World Order who are attempting to construct a global police state government.
Support Peaceful Protestors Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:32 pm
I agree the elite want it to turn violent, that’s for sure.
That being said, the original protest were very very massive, although it appears as though PP has not bothered to look for pictures or video to prove this even though it is out there and should be shown and they were peaceful.
There is no love and no support for the people demanding a better way in a peaceful way. Instead only the claim it is all CIA instigated. The violence probably has something to do with that, the people standing up however, is because the people want something better and that needs support. Maybe with enough outside peaceful support from the people of the world, the Iranian regime would have to make do on the people’s demand and run a fair election with proper oversight and this could be accomplished without violence. With no support for the people, it’s much more difficult for that to happen.
Rex Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:56 pm
I have read some of the protesters were dragging police off their motorcycles and beating them up.What do you think the police would do here if protesters did that?
Support Peaceful Protestors Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Rex, and that’s exactly the kind of propaganda BS that the media is spinning. For whatever reason PP is completely missing the boat that the media is not actually supporting the peaceful protesters generally and not using the actual pictures of the hundreds of thousands of them. Rather showing only a few and usually with a bunch of fires around them or whatnot.
Ron. Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Though I do think that you are reading far too much into it because the protesters are only protesting the election results – they are not protesting the actual system itself because remember most of those protesters are supporters of Moussabi [ an Obama like fellow who will only pay lip service to change ] & are not supporters of overthrowing the system or Islamic based clerical rule. Remember all of those Al Gore supporters of the 2000 recount controversy were NOT challenging the corrupt Federal Reserved controlled system but just the election result. What is happening in Iran is the SAME thing – only more violent. Which should probably make you wonder just why there are SO MANY DAMNED “disputed” election results all around the world! Perhaps you do not suppose that there might be some PURPOSE [ on the part of the elite as per the old dive & rule standard ] to GENERATE & manipulate friction & polarization among the population.
Support Peaceful Protestors Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:19 pm
“Perhaps you do not suppose that there might be some PURPOSE [ on the part of the elite as per the old dive & rule standard ] to GENERATE & manipulate friction & polarization among the population.”
Sure why not, but perhaps there is a deeper meaning to it when people are willing to peacefully take to the streets risking their own lives to demand a more democratic system, which is undeniably what they are doing. Maybe that’s how progress begins.
Rex Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Oh they will be getting some progress pretty soon,you watch, We will be liberating them pretty soon with shock and awe,democracy on the march etc.,Yep you just watch
TruthSeeker Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:31 am
Well Said Rex. ‘Support Peaceful Protestors ‘ I’ve already called you out. Now go give your lord satan an up yours from me!
jerry Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:39 pm
she is a woman who was just trying to support free rights. and why do u blame the jews? was it a jew who pulled the trigger? Get real. what if jews didnt exist who u blame then christians? u seem nothing more than a lover of a regime that denies people (humans) the basic right to life. shame. shame. shame on u and ur thinking
Questionauthority Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 5:08 am
Go back to your hole troll.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Please don’t delete my post for saying so, but in my opinion that is staged for the camera.
casey Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:39 pm
you know, i didnt even think about that at all, but now that you mention it……..???????
danny2 Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Either way, why would you try and perform CPR on someone with a huge hole in their heart? unless you are trying to pump the blood out and make the death quicker…. and where did all that blood come from thats on the ground? I’m not saying its fake I wasn’t there.
Jim Lunsford Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Looked to me like they were just trying to maintain pressure on the wound. But, it also looked like it was too late by the time I saw her face. Heart is a big old pump and when it gets blown up, there ain’t no stopping death. By the way, just for the other posts, no one knows really what happened, other than she was shot during a protest. Who shot her is unknown, and for what reason as well. All the rest is conjecture.
PPPie Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:05 am
Total garbage, her singing instructor who was with her stated clearly after the event, they are not near any protests, they are not interested in politics. They just stopped to get some air as the car was hot.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Who knows from where the shot could have come from? Iranian, CIA, or Mossad sniper fire? Watch the idiot public jump to whatever conclusions they’re fed.
quinny Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:11 pm
Most of the reports I have heard have the police shooting up in the air,
not at the protesters. They would have to be fools to shoot unarmed
protesters knowing the PR bonanza it would be for anyone lining up
against the regime. This was also a “kill shot”. Whoever it was that shot
this poor young woman was not just trying to “scare” her. And how
incredibly convenient to have a camera right there at EXACTLY the moment
she was shot. And then we have You Tube letting it pass by their censors
almost immediately after it happened. Though incredibly tragic,
there is much more to this story..
allen dulles Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 11:19 am
it reeks. can you imagine the outrage if anything leaked?
there has to be a proxy (or 2?) in order to protect the people behind the curtain.
the question remains, will this heinous act disturb the correct person on the inside,
and can they substantiate the truth without compromising themselves.
to anybody that doesnt understand my tone:
“OF COURSE IT WAS A FALSE FLAG OP”.
jerry Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:44 pm
i agree that there is much more to this story but if the cia, or some1 else who has the capability why not hit a major target instead of a unknown woman how better to start a revolt and as news comes in you will probably see more footage of iran police shooting into the crowds. Come on really get real think about it!!!
Quinny Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 12:03 am
Because there are no “MAJOR TARGETS” on the other side.
But what you have is 20 million Iranians under the age of 30
- like Neda – who might be willing to fight the regime if they
are provoked by more assassinations, because that’s what this
was. If you want to find out who is really trying to destabilize
the country just Google “Bush signs directive for covert actions
in Iran” The Seymour Hersh article spells it all out…
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
go here for a close up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
or here http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ for american news, in case u mistrust anyone else but good ol yankee doodle NWO food, spoon fed to u directly via FOX
This poor girl was buried today in Tehran and Basij thugs stormed in and chased away many mourners because they hate the symbol she became (an Iranian Joan of Arc). I can imagine Hollywood will pick up on this soon and we will see some high paid celeb earning fame and $$$ on the death of this angel.
Darius
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
U.S. PROPAGANDA PLANNED IN 2007
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new.....-Iran.html
Bush sanctions ‘black ops’ against Iran
By Tim Shipman in Washington
Published: 12:01AM BST 27 May 2007
President George W Bush has given the CIA approval to launch covert “black” operations to achieve regime change in Iran, intelligence sources have revealed.
Mr Bush has signed an official document endorsing CIA plans for a propaganda and disinformation campaign intended to destabilise, and eventually topple, the theocratic rule of the mullahs.
Under the plan, pressure will be brought to bear on the Iranian economy by manipulating the country’s currency and international financial transactions.
Details have also emerged of a covert scheme to sabotage the Iranian nuclear programme, which United Nations nuclear watchdogs said last week could lead to a bomb within three years.
Security officials in Washington have disclosed that Teheran has been sold defective parts on the black market in a bid to delay and disrupt its uranium enrichment programme, the precursor to building a nuclear weapon.
A security source in the US told The Sunday Telegraph that the presidential directive, known as a “non-lethal presidential finding”, would give the CIA the right to collect intelligence on home soil, an area that is usually the preserve of the FBI, from the many Iranian exiles and emigrés within the US.
“Iranians in America have links with their families at home, and they are a good two-way source of information,” he said.
The CIA will also be allowed to supply communications equipment which would enable opposition groups in Iran to work together and bypass internet censorship by the clerical regime.
The plans, which significantly increase American pressure on Iran, were leaked just days before a meeting in Iraq tomorrow between the US ambassador, Ryan Crocker, and his Iranian counterpart.
Tensions have been raised by Iran’s seizure of what the US regards as a series of “hostages” in recent weeks. Three academics who hold dual Iranian-American citizenship are being held, accused of working to undermine the Iranian government or of spying.
An Iranian-American reporter with Radio Free Europe, who was visiting Iran, has had her passport seized. Another Iranian American, businessman Ali Shakeri, was believed to have been detained as he tried to leave Teheran last week.
The US responded with a show of force by the navy, sending nine warships, including two aircraft carriers, into the Persian Gulf.
Authorisation of the new CIA mission, which will not be allowed to use lethal force, appears to suggest that President Bush has, for the time being, ruled out military action against Iran.
Bruce Riedel, until six months ago the senior CIA official who dealt with Iran, said: “Vice-President [Dick] Cheney helped to lead the side favouring a military strike, but I think they have concluded that a military strike has more downsides than upsides.”
However, the CIA is giving arms-length support, supplying money and weapons, to an Iranian militant group, Jundullah, which has conducted raids into Iran from bases in Pakistan.
Iranian officials say they captured 10 members of Jundullah last weekend, carrying $500,000 in cash along with “maps of sensitive areas” and “modern spy equipment”.
Mark Fitzpatrick, a former senior State Department official now with the International Institute for Strategic Studies, said industrial sabotage was the favoured way to combat Iran’s nuclear programme “without military action, without fingerprints on the operation.”
He added: “One way to sabotage a programme is to make minor modifications in some of the components Iran obtains on the black market.”
Components and blueprints obtained by Iranian intelligence agents in Europe, and shipped home using the diplomatic bag from the Iranian consulate in Frankfurt, have been blamed for an explosion that destroyed 50 nuclear centrifuges at the Natanz nuclear plant last year.
The White House National Security Council and CIA refused to comment on intelligence matters.
The Truth Teller Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
The Truth Will Set Us FREE !!!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
And “the beat goes on”…
My complements to the very well crafed article here, and I would only like to add to this a couple of points that need reflections in our own “Democracy”…
Vote recount Florida 2000 U.S. Presidential Election, Invasion and occupation(s) Afghanistan 2001, Iraq 2003, Voter fraud 2004 U.S. Presidential Election 2004 New Mexico and Ohio recount(s) stopped courtesy of the Democratic contender.
P.S.
If you really want to put the “wag the dog” scenario that’s taking place in the aftermath of the Iran elections to shame, then have the guts to take a spoonful of truth and read what the definition of “bravery” really is -
http://www.ae911truth.org/
http://911blogger.com/node/10025
For those of you who flunked basic geography you might also want to pull a map up of the Middle East up and figure out how important Iran factors in to the Worlds movement of “strategic oil” and why that Country is surrounded from all sides by NATO these last 7 years!!!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Blah, blah, blah. Whenever anyone dies in this manner, we are all diminished. So tired of the blah, blah, blah. Stop trying to defend your positions.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
They ve lost it Paul. I have posted here several times on news from Iran which they have removed. It seems “Prisonplanet” has become just that, its own prisonplanet censoring free speech and information. I ll spread the word to other not to post here anymore. This place is like Iranian Press TV all nicely censored and selected to suit the owners idea of the world, not reality itself.
Darius
The Truth Teller Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Untrue !!!
danny2 Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
how so?
The Truth Teller Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:30 pm
I always say what I feel and my posts are always there
Sometimes there is a delay but not recently as they must of updated their servers
I also see opposing points of view all the time some not so nice
Have you been censored danny2 ??
What great news from Iran do you have for us Darius ???
Speak Up
Bastet777 Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Were waiting….
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
I think this woman was assassinated as a CIA/ Mossad propaganda effort. Her name translates to voice or call.
How appropriate, and she was pregnant. This type of imagery would fire up the most docile of us.
jerry Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Again think who better a martyr than some1 who leads the protest? that would spark more of an outrage and a revolt. And believe me the CIA/Mossad if they wanted to could have done that. let alone the president of Iran. CIA/Mossad are better than that why kill a woman that has no political ties,, don’t blame the CIA or Mossad instead blame the Iranian govt unless your a sympathizer.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
WHat you fear is evil! It must be stopped. Take a stand and stop using their system. We are trying to stop their system! Not use it and make it stronger! They will play us against each other every chance they get, prepare for it!
-United!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Hey Darius.
I understand ‘Triple Canopy” and “Xeh “are hiring for $500 an hour to post information like your’s on blogs like this one. You don’t even need to be a skilled computer professional like yourself -just need to know how to read at a minimal 10th grade level and do whatever it is THEY tell you to do…
I think you just found yourself a job buddy!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Such a beautiful life snuffed out by evil people.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:53 pm
I wish I was an avenging angel, vested with power from on high to unleash God’s wrath.
Madman Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Who is to say you are not?
danny2 Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
no you dont
The Truth Teller Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Why not ??
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
How do we know it was not Mujahedeen Khalq (the terror group that is financed and armed by the CIA ) that did this to hurt Iran . Iranian police wont be stupid to do such a thing to hurt their repuation . Enemies of iran are behind such atrocities .
So many girls and women are killed by the Israeli army , does the west care ???
jerry Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:05 pm
seen the footage lately? wake up the CIA has no hand in this its a crazy regime. their repuation ? what do they have to hide ? what repuation? have u been alive for the past ten yrs? why would the police care if their own govt /bosses dont care about public opinion. come on get real
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Wow! It’s bad enough fucking little boys is a cultural norm over there, but to just cold bloodidly kill a pretty young girl and then pretend its okay, well, I am not won over to hardline Islam with that one. If Iranians want help we should send the airborne to get some regime change going on.
ok this is just crazy! Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
dude! why are you so heated about how Iran is? when American police kill innocent american men, women and children who were never even protesting anything.
Or what about all those gay guys in Congress who were caught having sex with their pages and other young children.
This happened 4,000 miles away from you and you are more worried about this then what happens in your own back yard.. FIX your own American PROBLEMS BEFORE YOU GO TELLING SOMEONE ELSE TO FIX THERES!!!
The Truth Teller Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Sorry Frank airborne is streached thin and veterans ARE KILLING THEMSELVES AT THE RATE OF 18 A DAY !!! and we are trillions in debt so that is out maybe we can use some swine flu or CIA magic potions
Just look at the Rabbi’s and Catholic Priests in the good old usa if you want to find perverts who like children so whats your point ?
Well lets see the USA does a good job of killing inocent people of all kinds even ugly old men
Did you just wake up from the couch ???
Sharon Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Frank Williams, hurry back to McCain land. Your neocon slip is showing and it ain’t pretty.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
All of the video I’ve seen of the Iranian riot police were videos in which they were there to make sure no one got hurt. They actually looked professional. I have yet to see any of their police act like our police. The shot could have come from anyone, who knows? What matters is what happens afterwards.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
In the years preceeding America’s entry into WWI the Hearst newspapers never tired of printing atrocities perpetrated by the ‘evil Hun’ including the countless times they over-ran hospital nurseries and bayonetted infants. I think that we are looking at a run up to war with Iran. The more things change, the more they stay the same. I am genuinely sorry for the young woman but I have to wonder if she was from the Gaza strip would she even merit a mention on Fux news? Duh, stupid question.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Death of any person is sad, especially when it can be replayed again and again. The irony is not that Neda died, but how the voice of the new generation of Iran is being put to death every minute. Neda represents the death of Iran’s hopes of a new regime, dreams of a country friendly with other countries, and for the people of Iran to just lead a normal life.
Why would a man want to remain in power when his own people do not want him?
May the blood shed by Neda prove more powerful than the lies with which Ahmadinejad continues to remain in power.
Shocked and Awed Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:31 pm
“Why would a man remain in power when his own people do not want him?” Com’on now Mantola, do you have any other straight lines to feed us? I get to go first.
1 What country are you posting from?
2Why don’t you ask George Bush? ahhh this is too easy. I will leave you to the mercy of my fellow posters but by the way, who the hell are YOU to speak for what Iranians want?
Sharon Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Actually Shocked and Awed, I think you did the job pretty right [regarding the hagiography piece by "Mantola"].
God,
I am so sick and tired of seeing people react just like Pavlov’s dogs to whatever the media and their leaders prod them to be angry about, while ignoring everything else. Obviously there is no universal consensus in Iran against Ahmadinejad, but that doesn’t stop these blanket ludicrous generalizations from pouring forth, does it.
Artyom Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Just as Stalin said, “Death of one is a Tragedy. The death of a million is a statistic.”
America’s injustices are faceless and people can’t relate to them because they’re so many and don’t have journalists covering their lives and stories. The fact they show a young beautiful woman being killed should in itself prove an agenda. And yes the hypocrisy is very sickening. Lets show photos of the girl paintballed in the eye and killed by the police, I believe in Boston. Lets use her photo for revolution in America. Or the man shot in the back by the BART cop. These things happen in USA too, just people don’t like to think about it when it is at home. If you weigh USA and Iran, one will see perpetual wars and conquest with bases wrapping the globe. Then one will see Iran sitting there to themselves. Both have governmental crimes, but with USA having the heavier soul on the scale of justice in no way has a right to judge Iran for its problems. Those who cry that they are pushing for freedom. Just remember how selective these people are as some nations are massacring their populations and no call for justice is heard by these global freedom pushers, but when there is an agenda. Like on Iran, they are there to post around all websites. The fact Iran enjoyed free markets as small business owners could start up and do well. There were shopping malls, families lived with normality. Only now they want to forment a COLOR REVOLUTION, Green as they say. It doesn’t bring freedom, but a black hole of empty leadership that desolves the nation from within. Ukraine is turning into the poorist nation in the world. Georgia listening to their US masters naming streets after Bush and all, have plummeted into a state of chaos with endless protests with no real choice for a pro Georgian leadership. So this is exactly what the USA wants as their political foe over the past 30 to 50 years has shown a weakness.
Bastet77 Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:50 pm
There seem to be many agents trolling the boards.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
He’s not, he could be an avenging human however.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Oh yeah, I had finally listened to a podcast of Judge Napolitano yesterday. In it, they were spreading smear stories of old women getting shot or some shit in Iran. Like we just HAD to go over there and make “deomocracy” safe for them. Like we would know anything about a democratic=republic here. By the way, Just thought it funny the other day when reading about Adams’ Alien Sedition Act. The party campaigning against it was the Democratic-Republican Party. One party then. One party now. Yeah, I know. Sick sense of humor!
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:10 pm
I am sorry that such a beautiful young woman met her death in the cause of freedom from tyranny in the streets of Tehran. But I must ask just who took her life, and how can anyone be certain that it was the Iranian police? In such time of chaos, it is possible that the martrydom of “innocents” is a deliberate act to create and foment more hatred of the leadership…in many countries. Another agenda at work.
Since that time, the police have not used guns, but water cannons, teargas and batons to control the crowds of agitated citizens.
I would suggest to the Iran leadership of Three factions: the winner, Mousavi, and Khomeni…to create a more balanced representation of the conflicting interests by creating roles for leadership: President and Prime Minister and of course, the ruling Mullahs under Khomeni. One moderate, one hawkish, and one spiritual.
American liberals cannot expect the Iranians to throw God out if they win freedoms. Like most cultures of history, theirs is founded and intertwined with the religion.
Sharon Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Great post, ambience !!
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Benazir Bhutto was also killed by government assassins. The question is Which assassins for which government.
As with any tragic event one has to ask the same question. “Who benefits from this?”
The world in itself is growing tired of the shackles placed on it by their rich greedy psychotic governments. Only by uniting with the citizens of the world can we hope to topple the One World Government
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:40 pm
I have worked with ALLOT of video…
This one is a bit screwy…
At the start of the :40 second video “Neda” is seated, there is no “blood” on the ground at all..
At :02 the man in the white shirt (he is on the right) notes the camera position as the camera tracks in…
“Neda” leans back at :01 to :02 “blood” is now visible and pooling from underneath her.
The man in the blue and white striped shirt on the left leans over “Neda” as the camera comes around and we see her face, she watches the camera at from :08 to a little after :11.
There is no “blood” on her face until the man in the blue and white striped shirt puts his right hand near her lips at :11.2.
At :11.5 to :12 “blood” suddenly pours across her lips toward the camera away from the hand of the blue and white striped shirt man.
At this point, another man with a white shirt with grayish jeans, leans in to frame at :12.
At :13 to :13.5 he extends his right hand toward “Neda” and “blood” appears from her nose.
From :14 to :15 there is movement of hands and activity by “Neda’s” left eye, there is “blood” now in that eye.
Then the camera jars a bit.
Then the man with the white shirt and grayish jeans blocks “Neda’s” face at :16 he leans back out at :17.
At :17.5 to :18 a man in a green, white, and blue checkered shirt in black jeans enters on the right side of the frame.
The camera sits and see-saws in this position with glimpses of “Neda” behind the man with the white shirt and grayish jeans and the man with the green, white, and blue checkered shirt.
We get a solid look at “Neda” again at :20 to :21.5 then the camera begins its’ see-sawing tracking shot that starts at :22. The man with the white shirt and grayish jeans blocks our view of “Neda”.
The camera tracks around him and at :24 we get the gruesomely spectacular shot of her, head turned away from the camera and the man with the white shirt and grayish jeans lamenting “Neda”, “Neda”.
In the :16 video (which is even MORE dramatic) we get a thumb over the start of the video so we cannot see her then the thumb is removed and we rush in toward “Neda”.
Note the “blood” by her shoes is a brighter red than the same “blood” in the :40.
Also there is a continuity problem with the hands on “Neda” throat/chest.
It does not match the :40 video in the position of the hands.
Also the Iconic Image of “Neda” with blood on her face staring blankly into the mystery of death is the clearest part of the :16 video, perfect for a screen shot.
Another thing: this is a TWO camera shoot, TWO different angles
I might have missed a couple of things, but you get the idea.
Something is up with this footage.
A common problem with amateur actors is that they look at the camera during a shot.
In the :40 there is an ever so slight hesitation as each actor waits for their cue.
I cannot stop thinking about “Wag The Dog” where they manufacture a false war, using actors and blue screen.
Or the “Running Man” where they use a “digimatte” to put Ben Richards face on another person to fight Captain Freedom.
I am also blown away that people are so ready to believe footage like this; especially after the faked beheading footage from a few years ago where the “Devout Muslims” wore jewelry and spoke terrible Arabic.
And what about Gulf War I? Remember when the Iraqi girl cried about Iraqi soldiers dumping babies out of incubators? Then it turned out she was a member of the Kuwaiti Royal Family.
Notes:
Coming soon, an Opinion Poll to see where you stand about military action against Iran.
1) To pick this footage apart, you have to emotionally detach yourself.
2) View ANY and ALL video with skepticism. Especially internet footage.
3) When video is blurry and pixelated and jumpy it becomes easier to sell it as real.
4) Adobe After Effects can do virtually ANYTHING. I MEAN IT. The “blood”
pooling under “Neda” for example.
5) The audio is suspect as well; very clean and clear considering how chaotic everything is.
Giving great sound bites.
6) Not one news agency, including this one, is taking the time to pick at this
video. Infowars is selling the CIA destabilization angle, (which is correct), and main
stream media is selling the Ahmadinejad Rigged The Election angle.
7) Both angles manipulate our belief systems to the point where people will say “We should
DO something!”, “Where is our president?!”, “Obama is soft on Iran.” Etc…
9) I hope and pray this footage is NOT real, because IT IS f#@%ed up.
Just remember to remain skeptical about ANY and ALL news at this point in time.
God Bless.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Short Forensic analysis on NEDA AGHA SULTAN SNIPER killshot (Please excuse my bad english)
Having served in Afghanistan for a scandinavian country and been involved in several combat situations were moderatly skilled taliban and arab JUBA snipers were involved I send this data on the probable sniper type, rifle and actual damage caused to NEDA. I hope this helps you in some way to shed light of what actually happened.
Probable type of sniper:
“Juba -sniper” (name ref to legendary iraqi insurgency sniper, killing 37 american soldiers) which means a highly skilled and experienced sniper of arab origin.
Main target preference:
the lower spine, ribs or right above the chest (which seems to be where NEDA was shot).
Usual rifle preference:
Iraqui Al Kadesih or original Dragunov SVD sniper rifle
Dragunov SVD Sniping Rifle
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn18-e.htm
Caliber: 7.62×54R
If the sniper was imported Hizbollah from palestine or even a shiite muslim from Iraq by IRG intelligence for general terror of protestants in Tehranthis, this sniper worked alone or with a lookout (not for target data but more for young females not adhering to sharia dresscode ). From the first video where we see NEDA walk with her older music teacher we observe that she wears a rather relaxed western dress code (jeans, shirt and baseboll cap which must have infuriated the strict shiite arab basij sniper/alt. his lookout)
Killshot from a JUBA sniper comes usually from 200 metres away. Favourite spots, old building with bombed out windows and several escape exits or roof top max 200 yards away (ca 200 meter).
The sniper did probably not use supressor as the sound of street shootings, protestants screams and other sounds covered his shot and position.
How does a victim (did NEDA ) react on a sniper shot to the chest?
Well a normal gunshot (not sniper) to the chest causes following;
In the initial stages of the trauma, from the instant the victim is wounded till the body starts reacting, the victim will experience an extreme pain at the site of injury. The pain will start to dissipate when shock causes the release of Adrenalin and Cortisone.
The body reacts to the trauma by going into Shock . – There are three stages of shock:
Stage I (also called compensated, or nonprogressive) – In Stage I of shock, when low blood flow (perfusion) is first detected, a number of systems are activated in order to maintain/restore perfusion. The result is that the heart beats faster, the blood vessels throughout the body become slightly smaller in diameter, and the kidney works to retain fluid in the circulatory system. All this serves to maximize blood flow to the most important organs and systems in the body. The patient in this stage of shock has very few symptoms, and treatment can completely halt any progression.
Stage II (also called decompensated or progressive). – In Stage II of shock, these methods of compensation begin to fail. The systems of the body are unable to improve perfusion any longer, and the patient’s symptoms reflect that fact. Oxygen deprivation in the brain causes the patient to rapidly become confused and disoriented, while oxygen deprivation in the heart may cause chest pain. With quick and appropriate treatment, this stage of shock can be reversed.
Stage III (also called irreversible). – In Stage III of shock, the length of time that poor perfusion has existed begins to take a permanent toll on the body’s organs and tissues. The heart’s functioning continues to spiral downward, and the kidneys usually shut down completely. Cells in organs and tissues throughout the body are injured and dying. The endpoint of Stage III shock is the patient’s death.
If she was shot by a sniper rifle of type dragunov or similar, we speak of all 3 stages passing in matter of a minute.
The blood that you see comes most probably from her seccionated artherial systems, troughout trachea or esophagous and nasal cavities, under pressure. Her friends are trying to stop bleeding in the point of the bullet wound. And this kind of bleeding is espected in wounds in this particular area. The shock from the high power impact has probably supressed most of the pain an ordinary gunshot would cause. She´s dying quickly..
The high impact of a sniper shot to the chest also deprives the victim of air. Imagine a mike tyson twice as strong as the real one hitting you straight on solar plexus. We can see her slowly falling backwards in shock, not knowing exactly what hit her chest, her friends carrying her gently as she is about to pass out from the enormous split second feeling of being hot by a truck in the chest.
Having been involved in combat in afganistan i witnessed several killshots both on close range and long range. The victim hit by a high powered rifle will basically drop like a sack of potaoes and not act like in hollywood action movies, which is being thrown backwards 5-10 yards.
I truly mourn this girl. Her pain was great for a short moment and yet it was very swift compared to a normal gun shot. What must have shakened her more was the screaming sounds of her teacher as she was loosing consciousness. Sound is the last a dying being percieves before passing away.
May he who shot her experience her pain a 100 times in a 100 lives until he learns the nature of suffering (self-ignorance) and the way out of it.
darius
Rex Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Exactly,She was targeted for a reason (i.e.someones benifit) so who benifits? Surely not the Iranian goverment,Maybe the ones who are benifitting by showing the video over and over? (i.e.Israhell and US gov.?
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:01 pm
If that is all there is of the video, why post it on here? Whats the relevence if you cannot see what happened before or after? Why not just post videos of people dying and proclaiming how miserable things are and that it was this guy’s fault, with no clear view on how it happened or why…This post is just on the video, nothing more.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:01 pm
you r sad people if it was u it would be wrong rite
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Patrick, I saw many ppl in afganistan die with their eyes open. Your NWO paranoia is covering your ability to see things as they are. Read my short forensic report. There is of course tons of more data on this case. Huffington post has much of that and is an excellent source. Now if you take time you will find videos with actual street fighting going on in tehran right now and a dozen other “neda” killings, but none so clear and touching as this one. I even saw Mccain speak about her in c-span !!
She is in a way a symbol for the meaningless violence in the world. It is like she was an angel coming from no where, attracting the attention of a whole world as a martyr for mankinds longing for freedom. 1000s of others die similar deaths in us, iraq and iran right now but their deaths remain unknown to us, or we remain indifferent to them. Hers didnt. Have u asked yourself why?
Patrick Henry Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:13 pm
I never mentioned the “NWO” Darius…
And the fact that this video is being used by SO many people for whatever purpose should clue you in, that it could be staged…
And your forensics analysis is great…it has nothing to do with the way the video LOOKED…
I’m talking about software, and computer technology brother…
That’s all I’m saying…
There ARE inconsistencies in it…
Patrick Henry Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:13 pm
And slight of hand…
The Truth Teller Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:22 pm
B/S
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Maybe the red blood by her shoes were different..from 2 different phones being used. Some colors might be different from the others..It depends on the hue,brightness, contrast..etc etc. Its sad no matter what happened. God bless.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:25 pm
I felt something twisted about this shooting this morning as soon as I heard about it and you have effectively spelled out what was in my head and heart. I’m calling absolute BS on this shooting, not that it never occured and is a horrible tragedy but that it was an organized effort on the part of the Western “free” states and just another form of their imperialist agenda. I know I sound like a fanatic but I’m not, I’m just someone whose fed up with the media and the huge faceless machine in a country I cared about at one point. Check out Roger Waters “Amused to Death” album and the song “Watching TV.” His yellow rose is their “Angel of Iran.” “She’s the one in 50 million who can help us to be free.” “Because she died on TV.” Unbelivable. My heart and prayers go out to this poor girl.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:40 pm
The Neda video can be as fake as 911. It could be a FALSE FLAG to initiate outrage in the world to go to war with Iran. Don’t believe ANYTHING you see the America media pushing. All of a sudden, the American media are all involved in “Social Networking” sites but when the 911 Truthers were proving PROOF that the story of 911 was a lie, the CNN’s of the world disappeared. The CNN of the world couldn’t even show building 7 collapsing for FEAR that the American people would catch on to the lies of 911.
I believed either the CIA shot Neda or the video is FAKE. And I’m leaning more to the last.
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8468/neda4.jpg
http://img197.imageshack.us/im.....daver1.jpg
http://img197.imageshack.us/im.....daver2.jpg
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:58 pm
The MSM hypocrisy is really “impossible to stomach”. The girl took a bullet for nothing, what she wanted actually, “western democracy and freedoms” ? God rest her soul.
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
I guess now because one girl was killed in front of national television, we should go and invade iran…Looks like they got her in the heart, she bled out pretty good.
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
TO NedaFakeLike911
You are so right, suddenly whatever Iranians “patriots” put on the WEB is the TRUTH, but when Americans raise some serious questions the Internet is presented as a joke, full of “extremists” and “nuts”.
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:27 pm
thats so fucked up!
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:27 pm
I can’t believe the amount of people that are believeing this BULLSHIT. There is no way in hell this is real.
Do you all think that there are snipers on roof tops just killing people randomly. The MSM is lieing , AGAIN!!!
When was the last time they told the truth about anythign? They have lied non-stop, yet One woman dioes and all of a sudden everyone believes this BULLSHIT.
This is ither a fake, or at the very least, a complete set-up.
When will the sheep see through the MSM? I call BULLSHIT!!!!!
Anyone that beleives this bullshit deserveres everythign they are going to get. LIES<<<LIES <<<<LIES,,, Thats all you get from the MSM. Yet everyone beleives this bullshit. It isn’t even a good job at fakeing it. This is MSM BULLSHIT!!!!!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:32 pm
REMEMBER RACHEL COREY!
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:01 pm
We will always remember Rachel Corey…………
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Down with Islamic Fascists. Islam Is violent!
Sharon Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:25 pm
“Down with” Joan. Joan is violent.
[How do you like a taste of your own medicine, war pimp ?]
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Do we know for sure that Neda was shot by Iranian forces. Mossad is not squimish when it comes to killing people who are not jewish; they look for opportunities to inflame the situation, killing an innocent by-stander to advance their position is something Mossad has done hundreds of times.
Bastet77 Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:03 pm
And the people that killed Kennedy; the President of the United States. What makes you think they would squirm at killing an innocent Iranian woman?
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Yes the globalist antichrist devils just love killing and slaughtering innocents!! But when Jesus returns; their day will be all over!! And then they will know that the Great God of Heaven saw it all !! But then it will be too late!! As the Great Judgment Day will consume them with fire and brimstone and much weeping and gnashing of teeth!!
Rex Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Um,lets see,Moslems like Jesus but what about the Jews? Maybe you should read up on that
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
All this stuff in Iran is all a proposed coup. There is no way in the world that a guy could come up in 3 weeks before the election, and suddenly win a majority of the vote. The public in Iran has easily been manipulated to believe so, due to their own complaints towards Ahmadinejad, which has been transformed to think that there was a distorted vote. Even if there was, two, why should we get involved after the disputed elections of 2000 and 2004, where we too limited freedom of speech (by blocking demonstrations) and freedom of the press (by forbidding them to report on stuff other than CHADs).
Where was our “whole world was watching” speech? Now i am not saying I like ahmadinejad, or that I support him. But we have a lot of nerve placing judgement on another country right now.
Karema Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Here, Here Delta, It is about time someone with some brains comments and makes some sense here. Propaganda works well in the U.S. and especially in Prison Planet.
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:38 pm
The only way to deal with the barbaric basiji and the corrupt regime they support is to herd all of them onto an island and nuke them to hell (or to see Allah or whatever).
Bastet77 Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:05 pm
I think they key to solving this is to look deeply into this Mousavi’s past.
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:57 pm
The anti Jewish madness that is espoused on this page deserves its own website. The main page here is Zionist this, Zionist that. The jews are making fake death videos now so a sudden invasion will occur, have all of you lost your mind? The administrator talks about many lives lost and not shown, where is YOUR video administrator if it has been taken and surpressed from public view by the JEWS THE JEWS OH MY GOD ALL MANKINDS PROBLEMS ARE THE FAULT OF THE JEWS according to Alex I Hate Jews Jones. If any of you would care to join the Iranian protesters oh wait they are really JEWISH ACTORS ITS THE JEWS THE JEWS according to many of the posters here. There are no real protests in Iran, no police brutality going on and even if there is so what, no-one is showing WAR deaths (what an idiot) and the MSM run by THE JEWS THE JEWS THE WORLD KILLING JEWS according to Alex I Hate Jews Jones. Most of you have taken leave of Reality I can assure you. The Jews have no control over my Fate and I am an Atheist. There is no invasion of Iran coming due to the FAKED JEWISH VIDEO OF NEDA, A TEL AVIV COLLEGE STUDENT ACTRESS according to sevewral warperd individuals here making astonishing claims without one iota of evidence. Maybe its not the Jews, maybe its the IRISH, yes the IRISH are behind all the media and arms deals and money and old families. Sounds as stupid as the frothing mouth Jew haters here, probably intolerant and hateful ‘christians’ choking back a six pack and blaming the Jewish Boogeyman for their shortcomings. Giz thinks Mossad is operating in Tehran with a free hand, what can you say???
Rex Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:08 pm
What happened tp the five dancing Israelis that were caught high fiveing and jumping up and down filming the WTC towers on 9/11? They also tested positive for explosives.
Oh yeah,Nothing there move along,The poor Jews are always picked on for no reason,And even questioning a Jew is anti semite.because they are the chosen ones
not quite Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:46 am
Face it this is beyond the scope of simple Zionism. Few people realise the Illuminati control the world. They control every government. They have been egging on every war in history. Sure they disguise themselves as humans, many of whome have usurped the government of Israel.
Look deeper into the rabbit hole. Its scarier than you might imagine. The Israeli people arent to blame, just like people in the US and Iran arent to blame. They have been lied to. Their governments have been hijacked by the same kind of people who led the Third Reich.
This is the ultimate power grab by the elite do the math of the events in the past added to these current events. It falls in a sequential order like falling dominoes and leads to a terrible total. The ruling Elite want us misled, they want every race in the world blaming each other, and thus at war with each other. They are the kings of “watch the birdie” while they pick your pockets. They want population control.
Each one of us wears our own gold star now. If we refuse to learn from lessons past, we will have no future. The common people have become the “Next Holocaust Victim”
To quote those who survived that Atrocity…. NEVER AGAIN.
Stop the New World Order.
Mars Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:05 am
Zionists are NOT Jews, they are are followers of Satan and their agenda is for the protection of Israel where the dajjal will take the throne of Jerusalem the capital of the NWO
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Hey Giz please list at least 72 of those ‘hundreds of times’ that the Mossad has done what your insane brain cells think they are doing in Tehran???? Incident times, places and results, Inquiring Minds want to know.
Rex Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Not Giz but do you know what the mossad’s motto is? Just wondering
quinny Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:25 pm
I believe its “Victory Through Deception”.
Rex Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Here is pretty much proof this is all planned,And who Iran can look forward to as their next appointed dictator http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14424
Iran protesters may wish they hadn’t protested so much
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Alex Jones thanks for telling the truth! You Rock!
Now here’s to you Obama Bush all you F cking NWO people. Try and take my guns farms. Fuck you. May you Die and Rot in hell you Bastards. This asshole who wants to take our guns can go back to Africa and fight his own people. fucking Apes. And I catch you NWO dicks putting another red sticker on my mailbox You will be arrested by me and you will like it. I hate our GOV there Red label me agin you fucking devils.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Reality check, both sides are Muslims! Stop trying to make this out to be one group against Islamic rule. It is an Islamic country and Iranians aren’t trying to change that. Most of you know jack about Iran. You are taking sides without nothing nothing about neither. So typical in the U.S. Many of you didn’t even know the difference between shi’a and sunni 1 year ago. Now look at all of these experts here writing in this forum.
Iran was a vibrant nation and one of the most modern Muslim nations in the Middle East. Most of you didn’t know that. Still believing the 1953 cia propaganda. Ahmadinejad is one of the few leaders in the Muslim world to challenge our Government’s policy toward the Israelis and Palestinians. You think the Muslim world hates him like you do because you think of him as an extremist? He is only a figure head when it comes to the supreme rule.
Your sympathy for the protesters is so fake. Just months ago some of you were ready for Bush to nuke Iran on behalf of Israel, now you are calling the protesters patriots? You are so dumb and ignorant. What do you know about Iran? Do you even know who is backing all of this? Your kind also fell for the babies in incubators lie to justify the first invasion of Iraq.
Mainstream media has already reported that Bush PAID for CIA to do their dirty work in Iran.
Why would the Iranian government kill an innocent bystander? Why haven’t they killed others then? It doesn’t make sense. If this is all about votes, then why would the protesters risk ruing their country with instability that could lead to a civil war and weaken it just like the Israelis and neo cons would like them to do.
THINK PEOPLE! Put your Islamic bigotry aside for a moment and think. Who is Dr. Ahmadinejad a real threat to? HIs people women and men are highly educated. They unlike other Muslim countries do not have a monarchy. Ahmadinejad, threaten to dump the dollar.
America’s fake support can’t give the protesters what they already had, a democratic election. Why don’t we first start to protest our own rigged elections before we start pointing the fingers at Iran. Who are we to judge when we (CIA) have already toppled a democratically elected Pm in Iran in 1953?
God forgive me if I am wrong, but something seems very fishy about the death of the Iranian lady. From the minute I saw the video it just didn’t seem right to me. If she really did die may her soul rest in peace.
Sharon Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Excellent post Karema and I agree 100% as I’ve written too many times elsewhere.
[But I think you were unfair to several people on this board when you congratulated Delta as being the only poster who made those points; several had made them prior to that].
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:02 pm
I was in Iraq when the British sas were caught killing iraq people. The British got a platoon of men with a tank and broke out the sas guys from the iraq police dept building! I wonder if the same tactic was done in Iran to the demonstrators. Were some black ops special forces bunch shot that poor innocent young woman? To create strife and more division within iran. Even some of the mosques that were blown up in Iraq, were very revealing in the methods, tactics, and what mosques they chose to blow up! Revenge is a powerful thing, to incite hatred, and division within your own neighbors. Many of the Iranians are even Christian! I feel sorry for the human beings that live in that country. I will be praying for the Iranians and especially for the family members of the beautiful young Iranian woman that was murdered!
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:07 pm
For those with no brain cells, yes Mossad is operating in Tehran right now; no not with a free hand but in an incendiary covert fashion, to think otherwise is more than naive but stupid.
Mossad motto is with deception we will wage war, they are the most ruthless intelligence agency in the world. What do you think the orders are for Mossad agents in the theatre, INFLAME the situation,try to bring about civil unrest, even civil war; destabilize the administration.
DON’t BELIEVE ME, HERE IS REUTERS:
“(Reuters) – Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu extended the tenure of the Mossad chief to an eighth year on Sunday, a testament to the spymaster’s perceived success in waging shadow wars against Iran and its allies. Meir Dagan, a former commando and retired general, took over Mossad in 2002 with what security sources described as a mandate to monitor and sabotage the Iranian nuclear program ahead of any decision by Israel to launch full-scale preemptive strikes
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:48 pm
HYPOCRISY http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/eng.....988828.stm
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:03 am
SHE WAS NOT A PROTESTER. YOU ARE REPEATING A LIE THE WESTERN MEDIA IS PUSHING. YOUR HEADLNE STATES SHE WAS A PROTESTER!!! CHECK THE FACTS FROM THE GENTLEMAN WITH HER, SHE WAS NOT A PROTESTER.
It was away from the protests by a few streets, they didn’t have any involvement in the protests and where not near them. It’s just being spun to look like she was a protester.
Too risky to stage a false flag while security and real protesters are nearby. So they arranged it a few streets away.
An anonymous sniper shot her from a private roof top.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:27 am
Only a coward and a straight-up fairy would snipe a pretty young woman. We are talking about major faggage here. May the 70 virgins he meets when special forces find this fuck have herpes, AIDS and are actually Thai Lady Boys.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:50 am
Looks like Iran is surrounded by ready to expand US military bases .. Pakistan is being destabilized .. Georgia was destabilized .. Palestine and Lebanon have had a severe thrashing looks like the axis of evil is ready to roll.
The arch villain is surrounded by lots of very angry people in the nations that surround them .. 60 years worth of righteous anger .. so it will not be Jihad .. because Jihad is the Spiritual battle with oneself .. oh no this one is going to be a real blood and guts one. Its called Karma.
Neda is a classic false flag and if ya believe the official 9/11 then here is the reason why ..
ADL’s World of Difference program online speaks to parents and educators; Dr. Debra Byrnes is quoted: “children begin developing attitudes about various groups in society as early as ages three or four. Initially such attitudes are quite flexible. However, as children grow older such attitudes become more difficult to change.” To an organization committed to changing American minds and undermining traditional viewpoints, incipient “homophobia” is clearly a problem. Kids need to be warned against such “bias” early.
But perhaps this is too subtle for some?
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:15 am
This is bullshit.
Again, for those who missed it:
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8468/neda4.jpg
http://img197.imageshack.us/im.....daver1.jpg
http://img197.imageshack.us/im.....daver2.jpg
(i have not personaly verfied that the falsifications is not fake…)
Iranian gov sniping people from the roof?
Girl shoot in the breast staring at video recording, instead of looking at the guy (profesor or father depending on the newspaper) who is shouting her name?
All newspapers covering their ass by saying that they have not themselves validated i’ts authenticity?
And the historical precedence?
It’s all bullshit, c’mon people, we need all to get 110% sure that this is fake, and then cry EPIC FAIL through the roofs to make this psyop backfire.
EPIC FAIL!!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:51 am
SHENANIGANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE
SHENANAGANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHENANAGANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHENANAGANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHENANAGANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHENANAGANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHENANAGANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHENANAGANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHENANAGANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHENANAGANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHENANAGANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHENANAGANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS GOING WAY OVER THE TOP
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:18 am
Darius
#1
Link of another killshot to a teens head. (not the first shot in the groin but the second one in the movie)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npdISZUtdmU
In this video we see a teen with a sniper shot in the head being carried into a shop
#2
The killing of youth in Tehran intensifies. Now the Gov. requests USD 3000 bullett fee for shooting teens and returning their bodies to their families.
Story in todays wall street journal
By FARNAZ FASSIHI (Persian working at Wall street Journal)
TEHRAN—The family, clad in black, stood at the curb of the road sobbing. A middle-aged mother slapped her cheeks, letting out piercing wails. The father, a frail man who worked as a doorman at a clinic in central Tehran, wept quietly with his head bowed.
Minutes before, an ambulance had arrived from Tehran’s morgue carrying the body of their only son, 19-year-old Kaveh Alipour.
On Saturday, amid the most violent clashes between security forces and protesters, Mr. Alipour was shot in the head as he stood at an intersection in downtown Tehran. He was returning from acting class and a week shy of becoming a groom, his family said.
The details of his death remain unclear. He had been alone. Neighbors and relatives think that he got trapped in the crossfire. He wasn’t politically active and hadn’t taken part in the turmoil that has rocked Iran for over a week, they said.
“He was a very polite, shy young man,” said Mohamad, a neighbor who has known him since childhood.
When Mr. Alipour didn’t return home that night, his parents began to worry. All day, they had heard gunshots ringing in the distance. His father, Yousef, first called his fiancée and friends. No one had heard from him.
At the crack of dawn, his father began searching at police stations, then hospitals and then the morgue.
Upon learning of his son’s death, the elder Mr. Alipour was told the family had to pay an equivalent of $3,000 as a “bullet fee”—a fee for the bullet used by security forces—before taking the body back, relatives said.
Mr. Alipour told officials that his entire possessions wouldn’t amount to $3,000, arguing they should waive the fee because he is a veteran of the Iran-Iraq war. According to relatives, morgue officials finally agreed, but demanded that the family do no funeral or burial in Tehran. Kaveh Alipour’s body was quietly transported to the city of Rasht, where there is family.
Everyone in the neighborhood knows the Alipour family. In addition to their slain son, they have two daughters. Shopkeepers and businesses pasted a photocopied picture of Mr. Alipour on their walls and windows. In the picture, the young man is shown wearing a dark suit with gray stripes. His black hair is combed neatly to a side and he has a half-smile.
“He was so full of life. He had so many dreams,” said Arsalan, a taxi driver who has known the family for 10 years. “What did he die for?”
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Remember our heroes dying on the street for a free world!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....agodzRnPoQ
Cease your redneck couch comforting reality and hit the streets SHOUTING I WANT MY VOTE BACK!!! IF WE CAN DO IT SO CAN YOU!
WE PERSIANS ARE NOT AFRAID TO GET OUT BY THE MILLIONS AND DIE FOR OUR CAUSE, WHY DO YOU AMERICANS DONT DO SOMETHING?!
WE ARE SHAKING THE WORLD TO WAKE UP AND FIGHT, YOU SHOULD TOO!!!
DOWN WITH ISLAM, DEATH TO KHAMENEI, DEATH TO THE MULLAHS!
dARIUS
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:56 am
dARIUS, im born in Tehran, and my wife is there right now. Her mother supports, yes, you read right, SUPORTS the government taking strong meassures at protesters burning down the city for 1 week. During all that time, the police did basicly nothing more than shove them around with batoons. And they keept burning peoples property – my wifes mother gave the example of a strawberry seller who got his streetshop burnined while being away for a short while.
Are there people dying there? Yes. Are the Iranian Government angels? No. Are they better than the International Global Banking Cartel? Yes, allways will.
Is it bad that kids get shoot in the head? Yes. Is it bad that there is no more freedom in Iran? Yes.
But don’t you kid yourself, its the same here in the west. In Sweden, were i am now, they shoot a kid in the stomach in the second day of Protests during the EU summit in Gothenburg 2001.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P.....nburg_2001
Same in Italy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_Giuliani
So don’t be a hypocrit, people day in the west protesting all the time. This is not a Iran-Only issue.
And it doesnt change that the Neda fotage seems to be fake.
Is what is happening good? No, on no front.
Am i going to support what the mainstream media wants me too support? No
Is it internal affairs? Yes. My countries internal affairs.
Is there Iran a dictatorchip? No. They have elections. Just like in the USA.
BTW, is suspect that the election irregularities repported by Iranian Media is just normal – people do cheat. In small scales, its normal. And why don’t you think it’s possible that it’s Musavis men who cheated on his behalf?
Don’t forget the Western pre-election polls that predicted that Ahmadinejad would win by 2/3.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:58 am
day = die
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:01 am
Laser measuring lookout and “Juba -sniper” (name ref to legendary iraqi insurgency sniper, killing 37 american soldiers) which means a highly skilled and experienced sniper of arab origin
ON ROOF TOP scouting female targets in Tehran near Enqelab square.
For more info about this read my previous brief military forensic analysis on Nedas Killing.
Now I know there are some of u here living on planet pluto dreaming of conspiracies under your bed and probably believe CFR ordered Nedas killing for spooky NWO purposes. But the reality of it is, tehran is infested with snipers today. If you dont believe me just board a plane to tehran and see how long u will live walking on the streets!
This was a simple beautiful girl with dreams of travel and a good life like anybody amongst you.
She was killed by an arab speaking basij (khamenei supporting militia with awesome power to crack down on citizens much like nazigermany SA trooper) who didnt like her western style dress code (jeans and baseboll cape).
Today her death is used by cnn and fox to boost rates, by prisonplanet to boost rates for their cause and even by myself to boost my thirst for freedom.
In the end what is left is an empty room in her grief struck fathers house. His treasure blown away and buried (i have photo of the grave). Now he can only cry for revenge over those who crushed his family while the world looks at the video of his murdered daughter, with cold eyes that will go on and dream and live out their usual delusions about the state of things.
It take not only guts and action to be a revolutionary, it takes conviction.
Remember that redneck couch warriors.
Darius
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:03 am
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_SbiV.....scaled.jpg
pic on laser measuring look out and juba sniper
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:30 am
Best story yet on NEDA and the back ground by LEDE New York Times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06......html?_r=1
Now dont tell me. NYT is NWO too. They must be lying. Those sons of bitches. CFR is friggin everywhere. Neda is a CIA coverup story contrived in deepest secrecy around 2000 and blossomed with pin point accuracy this weekend. I got to tell you man I admire those NWO guys, they might be evil but their timing is the best in the world!
(For those rednecks that didnt get it, this was just a mere sarcastic comment)
Darius
(My professor in political science once said: Politicians are professional liers. That is their job and to keep it, they need to make and brake promises on a daily basis. As proficient liers they need the blind faith of the ppl to exist, without it they would die by drowning in the black lake of their own lies. To judge a professional lier for his or hers acts in office, is to question the wisdom of your own vote that gave them power in the first place).
evelia Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 5:38 am
Darius,
Actually NYT is NWO. WHere have you been? Living under a rock?
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:34 am
Darius you idiot, my wife went to the doctor a few days ago to see if we are having a boy or a girl, and she did not get shot… omg…
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:35 am
Like Iranian security would snipe a young woman,
for no reason,
in broad daylight,
right in front of lots of people with cellphone cameras,
when they know footage is being non-stop uploaded to the internet
But the sniper was professional enough to do a hit like that, but totally disregard the political consequences.
I really fucking doubt it.
nader paul kucinich gravel Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:55 am
How do we know it was a Basiji sniper?
Who has the motive to inflame the people?
Who would benefit from provocateur snipers?
You will not see Pakistani, Afghani, Iraqi, nor Palestinian girls dying on video.
YouTube relaxed it’s rules to make sure you see Neda.
Ask yourself who has wanted to bomb Iran real bad?
AIPAC’s 911 & The Fed
BUYER BEWARE
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:38 am
“We are grateful to the Washington Post, *****The New York Times*****, Time
Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended
our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost
forty years.”
“It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world
if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years.
But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a
world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite
and world bankers is surely preferable to the national
auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”
http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/.....quote_103d
Darius, how about calling some random number in Tehran and just start chating with them about how it is there? Maybe you will get something you didn’t expect, eh?
evelia Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 5:40 am
rnd;
Ha, Ha. YOU OWNED DARIUS!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 4:09 am
http://911essentials.com says the old media is a zombie.
Its walking dead through life and spewing out falsehoods, lies and propaganda because that’s all it can do. The old media is on life support and there’s no more electricity left to run the machines.
911essentials is a primer portal introduction to the New World Order Corporate Banking Police State, its plans for one world government and their worship of the fake science Eugenics.
June 23rd, 2009 at 4:11 am
Mousavi was expected to loose:
http://www.terrorfreetomorrow......200609.pdf
See page 8 of 70- published June 12, before the election!
June 23rd, 2009 at 4:18 am
and the “top dogs” in the vatican claim the holocaust never happened. go interview the few million soldiers who’s duty was to toss bodies into pits they dug with baccos
Rex Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 5:33 am
Would that be after the carpet bombings,fire bombings etc. that killed an est. 20 million Germans? I wonder how they could determine which were Jews and which were just Germans citizens with all the burnt bodies and parts laying around everywhere,Maybe you could enlighten us
Sharon Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Piestrak,
First of all, what “top dogs” in the Vatican claim that ?? Presumably you totally missed the statement recently made by Benedict XVI in regards to Richard Williams.
But I don’t even care about that.
The point is this:
there were many MANY deaths of Jews due to starvation after the Allies bombed the railways, because no food could get to them. And that in turn made a very clear trail for typhus to spread.
Thus, you do not prove the “Holocaust” by the existence of dead bodies.
Hey,
got an idea for you:
How about opening up your totally programmed mind to what Rex just wrote ? Look up Dresden for example.
And then after that,
try getting back to the topic of this page.
June 23rd, 2009 at 4:28 am
Troll – through in some “jew” and “Holocaust” to change the subject, right?
You must be proud of yourself.
June 23rd, 2009 at 4:42 am
look how one post got everything off topic…..I think the MSM the american, and the british have done a good job propagandizing Iran in their favor, once again….Its true what this article says, they only want to show the people how “disgusting” their regime is, and that they need the support of Americans to help out the people in Iran….In most cases the americans would just invade anyways, but now, they want to play cat and mouse, and jump on the opportunity to steal Iran from the Iranians, or perhaps give reason to all out war with them.
Essentially this protest was about voting fraud, but then it became a protest against corruption, now its a revolution for peace and justice…truth.
June 23rd, 2009 at 4:51 am
Well if every one wants to claim that america is influencing this at all might be right but will also have to acknowledge that iran could be and is capable of such atrocities and is probably more corrupt than the united states so if you want to judge some one else you need to judge your self first.
allen dulles Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
dufus.
June 23rd, 2009 at 5:04 am
The awesome friendship of an angel and a blue bird
The revolution in Iran has created a new phenomenon that is scaring the mullahs to death.
The name of this phenomenon is Twitter. You have Flickr and facebook but that aside it is the little blue bird of twitter that has made the deepest impact among the youth whom now are overloading T- servers with tens of thousands tweets each minute and that only on # iranelection and #neda
A homepage, a newspaper, a news channel even companies can be litteraly flooded if their name flashes on twitter right now. It can be shunned and loose millions of readers or supporters shuns it as evil (like NOKIA SIEMENS whom were first revealed with thair filrhy hands shaking the hands of IRGC on twitter as tech supporters for providing spyequipment to the regime) or it can gain million of readers and supporters within 1-2 days if the twitter community supports it and retweets its link to others.
The reason NEDA became, so lightningfast, a symbol in the world, was due to twitter. I remember the day I read the first message flashing by around At 19:45 June 20th
that a young woman had been shot on Place: Karegar Ave., at the corner crossing Khosravi St. and Salehi st.
there was a facebook link, i clicked it, saw the first vid of 16 sec and later the second came in on twitter of about 37 seconds.
But it was the first one that enraged me. To see the life disappear from the face of this angel. I jnew real blood from fake and I reckognized the signs of a chest kill shot instantly as i had seen them sooo many times before in Afganistan. I have as a former scandinavian soldier in afganistan seen many deaths (see my military forensic report on nedas death here (scroll down to comments: Darius Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:14 pm http://www.prisonplanet.com/ir.....ally.html)
I know the real thing where couch warriors see only brain ghosts and CIA made fakes. This was not a fake. I ran the vid 20 times. I called a military friend of mine in Tehran (before the telnet was finally shut down) sent him all the info I had and asked him to confirm the killshot and background. One day later the 21st he returned my call. His voice was strained. He said. Darry, this girl was just an innocent stand by observer. A filthy “Juba”trained [see my forensic article] basij got her in the chest. We know who this iraqi dog is but we cannot touch him or his look out. They have top IRGC clearance and protection from General Mohammad Hejazi (chief of the joint staff of the IRGC). Darry many more will be killed the coming days. Dont come over here I have to go now. We have had arrests of several Generals in the army and bad things are about to happen the coming weeks. The army will soon fight IRGC and Basij. There will be much blood so protect yourself, dont come over here, your war is over. Now it is our turn. May God be with us all he cried and then to my surprise, a whisper; Allahu Akbar and then he hung up.
I became furious, I shouted in frustration, I emailed my local newspapers in my country, my tv channels, I sent evidence to CNN and MSNBC and tweeted others to do the same. To flood the sytem until it broke and posted her death.
And slowly the worm turned, the miracle happened. BBC (not those damned corrupted al jazeera!) was the first official news channel to send it. Soon Huffington Post, a first rate observer of the situation in Iran followed, then CNN, first with her face pixelled then unpixelled. soon others followed BBC and so on.
Prisonplanet didnt react. they were to home blind to their usual NWO articles and couldnt see the forest for the trees. But soon even they started to wake up and unfortuantely turned this into a NWO thing, diminishing her death and symbolism into a world NWO algoritm of complex proportions. I dont doubt the NWO as Alex so many times has put his blood and time to proove but sometimes even he must realize that a revolution has to have a beginning and a cause to that beginning. Of course Neda was on the long strain of causes a victim of higher powers whom in their struggle for power allowed their citizens to die on the streets but in the microperspective level she just happened to long for some air, on a hot day in a boiling Tehran. She just happened to get the evil eye of a trained look out, his juba snipe uncocked the leathal dragunow rifle and a shot echoed into history, creating a martyr for a whole nation even perhaps a world, it created the usual bunch of inbred conspiracy nuts crawling out from their stones blaming almost everybody from the Nazis to their own grandmother. That shot caught the attention of the US president, the prime minister of my own country. It shaked the world. Twitter, the blue bird of free thought and so loved by iranians, carried her freed spirit over the heads of cursing and evil mullahs and politicians whom only dwelled in black dreams of power and death ;
The bird reached the souls of a whole world
And thus a warning to those in power smug with their ratings, their votes, their readers;
Again I am reminded of the words spoken to me a long time ago by my professor in political science
“Politicians are professional liers. That is their job and to keep it, they need to make and brake promises on a daily basis. As proficient liers they need the blind faith of the ppl to exist, without it they would die by drowning in the black lake of their own lies. To judge a professional lier for his or hers acts in office, is to question the wisdom of your own vote that gave them power in the first place”
So the blue bird is in my room, the sun outside shining it is ready to fly and waits for my thought and outshoot of my spirit, It sings to all who thrive in the misery of others. “These are the new times of the living, not the old ones of the dead. What I carry can make you or brake you in a very short time. So be aware. We are out there and we are watching you.
Darius
evelia Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 5:42 am
Darius,
Your hopelessly naive.
allen dulles Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
this guy really sucks.
Salamis Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
I imagine that his father was a supporter of the Shah, possibly even a SAVAK agent, who sought asylum in Europe following the Iranian revolution. Now he wants a return to the “good old days” that his father told him about under the former despot and possibly a job in the new SAVAK serving the Shah’s son when he returns – he certainly seems to have the qualifications for it and the barely veiled threats of violence to everyone here surely demonstrate that he has the aptitude.
June 23rd, 2009 at 5:20 am
…In a nation so used to readily seeking and finding entertainment, in just about anything; it should be shocking to me that very few see the orchestra playing in full form. The demonstrators mean well but, they are pawns in the grand scheme. Does anybody really believe that the US is going to let the bogey-man out of power without doing it “Our way”?
…Those in power who most accuse and demonize Ahmedinejad, are they who need and want him most – the fact that some might say that Moussavi is the better alternative, is totally unacceptable.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:14 am
Missing the big picture here. it’s obvious Mossad shot this girl – who else? (and she’s not Iranian – didn’t you see her appear as an extra in West Wing??!!) as a prelude to a Zionist invasion of Iran. The Illuminati need Iran as a raygun post for the Big Takeover Of The Whole Earth which is happening Real Soon Now…! WHY CAN’T YOU PEOPLE JUST SEE THE TRUTH!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:20 am
…Take a chill pill Genie.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:29 am
My final post to this site. The link confirms my earlier forensic analysis (http://www.prisonplanet.com/ir.....rally.html scroll down)of the killshot that got NEDA.
A thorough compilation by LA times
http://www.latimes.com/news/na.....full.story
For you pro-basij (and yeah rnd, that goes for u too) and iranian agents in here my simple answer is. Your time will come very soon. Just keep feeding yourselves with more rope and well do the rest. Promise.
Darius
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:08 am
sorry forgot to paste a livestream link for those who wish to see whats going on in Tehran right now.
These are recorded vids and sometimes livestream depending on bandwith
http://persianq.com/
Have a nice life
Darius
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:23 am
This is a good analisys I found regarding the Iran elections. I think everybody should read it because it shows some very nice facts that kind of destroys all the “Iran-Fake-Elections” speech in mainstream media.
http://www.counterpunch.org/amin06222009.html
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:24 am
A lot of comments – I did not read through all of them, but did anyone else notice that one of the gentlemen on the right of this girl looks back at the person who is filming as if to say ” are you getting this ? “…..and since this is such a small snippet, what kind of sick
f%#k would film this and nothing else before or after ? And after hearing a weapon discharged at relatively close range who would be able to turn on their camera so quickly without a thought of taking cover ?
I guess the ” Iran is going to go nuclear ” propoganda didn’t produce the desired public support so here we go with something that only heartless bas$%ards such as myself are willing to call BS on…..
momwth3kids Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:12 am
who ever did that film and then filming it on video is sick in the head and needs to be taken out like that poor girl that made me sick to my stomach and it is gross whoever made that video is sick in the head:( get a life
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:34 am
A CIA SNIPER KILLED NEDA
Notice all the Iranian police on motorcycles had sheids and throwing rocks. They didn’t even have rifles. I believe the British or American or Isreali CIA set this whole thing up as a dramatic posterchild for all the world to see and help push the overthrow of the Iranian government. The guy filming was a CIA camerman who was probably in radio contact with the sniper and was wearing a bright blue bandana on his head so he wouldn’t be accidently shot. Also the corporate run media like CNN “constantly” ran the Iran story 24/7 with extremely grafic video sent in by the CIA. When was the last time such grafic pictures were on live news… hardly ever. But this time it was all in living color for maximum effect, just what the CIA wanted. Also where do you think all the multi-millions of dollars W Bush sent to the CIA specifically to overthrow the Iranian government, where do you think it went? This is just the type of thing the CIA wanted for a regime change… an election.
evelia Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 5:47 am
Joe in JT says
Your correct I think. Imagine if only for a day, the MSM would of shown the atrocites US commited to the innocent woman and children in Iraq? Or the Israeli slaughtering the innocents in Palestine. Ya, that would be something.
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:13 am
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By deception ye shall wage war
AIPAC’s Israel-first dual-nationals
2-3% of the U.S. population control
For-profit NotFederal NoReserve scam
oil
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aipac
profit
goyim
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the fed
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art students
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DANCE
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:48 am
Damn Darius. That was quite a story! I served in Iraq 2004 and can confirm much of what you say about chest wounds. Dont get hang up on the inept a**holes on this site. Most of them are inbred hicks whom never sat foot outside their own county much less Iraq or Iran. To them that is conspiracy, this is conpiracy. They never see things as they are because they are lazy, spoiled, comfortable egomaniacs. To get an american today to stand up and mess up his city or country like you brave iranians do when you have had enough of your government would only be possible if Obama decided to shut down cable tv (especially all the sport channels) and ask every american to learn proper geography and non-us history. LOL
Thank you for the links. Here is one I found while checking yours on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KDWnYD_egI
Damn you got some nice looking women. Far more beautiful then Iraqi women. If you have more like she on 1:43 I ll come over and shoot some of those basij and get me a nice cat eyed irani woman!!! Just kiddin so dont shoot me buddy LOL
Hats off for u buddy. Take care and continue the battle until the beards in your government are all gone.
Zeenix
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Iranian women are extremely beautiful, and I have to say, very sexy. You should appreciate them and not abuse and kill them. Neda was very beautiful and had a full life ahead of her. But then some coward who likes boys killed her. It is decision time: is the country heading toward being a theocratic version of La Cage aux Foles, or a nation of handsome men and beautiful women? You decide…
June 24th, 2009 at 4:44 am
Thank you Frank. The thing is that few in the west know that in ancient persian times before those muslims invaded iran with their patriarch male based religion, Persia had many dynasties where women were free and in highest positions (admirals, generals commanders etc).
posting two links of our brightest and most beautiful females for you to enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
in case you believe the beauties on that video of persian history are edited to look better then the real thing
look at this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTd4PFOmnQc
http://www.youtube.com/citizen.....zUDyL1RTk8
Now the thing with our women is not only are they extremely beautiful (especially those rare blue or green eyed with dark hair) they are extremely intelligent. To be a well educated woman, has deep roots in Iran and also had so in ancient Persia. As you might notice they all more or less carry posters with “i want my vote back” and similar slogans, all in english.
Some less intelligent conspiracy hicks and rednecks on this forum point at that and say..uhuh this is clear evidence of a CIA operation where operatives hide in the bushes offering leaflets in english so the cams can pick up and the world watching this in the news can understand the lingo..please.. These women know the world is looking so they have the kindness of showing their anger and frustration in english hoping media will pick up this and the world react to the current winds of deep injustice. An arab woman would not do that.
The mullahs have tried to supress much of that noble legacy. They have covered up our shining diamonds and done much to spread inequality between the genders which is very anti-persian.
Hence what few in west cannot understand, why is it you see all those women demonstrating on the streets kicking basij and encouraging their men to do the same. Well you have this warrior-soul in the women that genetically never vanished since ancient persia. Many of them scare the living daylights of theri men. It is tough when you have an extremely beautiful and intelligent woman coming at you ready to kick your ass.
They especially scare the arab men and thugs who are not used to such women.
In the end you will see a free Persia, the worst mullahs thrown out, a radical turn about to ancient Persian values of gracefulness, beauty mixed with the new millenium of technological evolutions. Persia will again become the paradise
of earthly beauty and wisdom it once was before the muslims soiled its soul with its “arab” mentality.
Darius
June 24th, 2009 at 5:12 am
To understand our brave females dying against the arab influence soiling the persian soul with its degrading values you have to understand the Persian mind.
Here is a link on our queens and mighty females of the past:
http://mani.tk/queens.htm
They never vanished. Today they occupy high positions on CNN, LAtimes, NYT, etc
they are close to rulers of power trying to keep a balanced world together in peace. Few know this and that is the trade mark of Persian Women. To act and influence in stealth, with grace and if necessary with force.
Darius
evelia Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 5:55 am
Darius,
I thought you were from Scandinavia, stationed in Afghanistan, now your from Iran? Better hope Iran does not get a USA backed puppet in there or you’ll beautiful Iranian woman will be history.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:22 am
I live in a scandinavian country, brought up here, since i was a teen, but originally of Persian birth and origin.
Darius
June 24th, 2009 at 6:44 am
Darius, i have analyzed the video further and no longer belive the video to be fake. What convinced me of it not being fake was seeing how the blood poored out of her nose – i doubt an actor could do that easily – i maybe give it 5-10% propobality of being fake, in contrast to 70-80% when writing earlier.
Hower, i do not belive she was killed by an government employee.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:48 am
evelia, in Iran, we have a term called “gheirat”. It dosent have a good translation, but it amounts to something as being protective of our women, and not liking strangers drooling after them….
I understand that you are saying you like our “beautiful Iranian woman” in a good way. Just giving you a cultural tip, in case you start talkning to an iranian irl.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
darius is an agent.
June 25th, 2009 at 2:14 am
I was just perusing some earlier comments and decided to put in my two cents. Earlier the discussion was about protests between some very well versed individuals. The question revolved around ‘peaceful protest’ and/or whether their protests were valid (corrupt gov. vs. legitimate election). Anyway, I just wanted to let you fine folks understand one Universal constant. Something every dictator, wiseman and peasant has understood or come to, power/change is only achieved through force. There IS no other way. Blood must be the price if you are to achieve anything. It is inevitable.
June 25th, 2009 at 11:40 am
How heart less do u have to be to call this fake???
You guys have no soul. This young woman died over something she believed so
strongly about. But when was the punishment for protesting death???
The world is fucked up
June 29th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Shame on you. America is a free and wonderful place. So even you can spill your beliefs.
Iran funds. trains Hozoballah and Hamas who go into Gaza and Lebanon and feed on hatred
towards others. Hozoballah has caused the deaths of thousands of Palestinians by there firing
rockets into Israel. Iran has no use for the arab palestinians, their just a tool for their destruction. Iran Islamic Republic has over 30yrs. destroyed any pre-Islamic historical cites in
Iran. Iran’s famous Cyrus the Great gave all of us the 1st charter of Human rights. Iran does
not even live by them. The Islamic Republic is destroying Iran. Destroying their own people .
Iran Islamic Republic i #2 for executing people. China #1. Islamic Republic will blame every one but them selves for the destruction they have caused. Supreme leader kills, destroys and then insults god by saying “Its god’s will” Adhmadinejad is a nut case waiting
for the 12 Imam to come out of hiding. He made a fool out of himself at the UN.
God bless Neda. God bless the Persians and I hope the can save some of their historical
sites before the Islamic republic destroys it all. Take all the killing, honor killing and
destruction out of Islam then it would be a good and kind loving religion.
June 29th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
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