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Neo-Con Media Whores Still Can’t Get Facts Straight On Malkin Incident
Blow hard blogs still parrot lie that Jones advocated violence against Malkin in coordinated defamation campaign
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Wednesday, August 27, 2008
Neo-Con media whores are still having difficulty getting their facts straight on Alex Jones’ confrontation of Michelle Malkin on Monday at the DNC, and remain persistent with their bald faced lie that Jones advocated violence against the columnist.
“If you repeat a lie long enough, and loud enough, it becomes truth,” said Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels, and it appears as though Neo-Con bloggers have taken the words of one of their heroes to heart.
That’s right – drooling, Mom’s basement dwelling, fake right-wing hacks are still reporting that Alex Jones and/or his supporters shouted “kill Michelle Malkin” even after we exposed the individuals concerned to be agent provocateurs intent on demonizing legitimate protesters by making inflammatory statements.
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Malkin herself appeared on Fox and Friends, the show that regularly serves up a morning diet of mindless celebrity bile along with Neo-Con talking points and anti-American propaganda, to discuss the incident with the ever willing brownshirt propagandist host Steve Doocy, who continued to lump in Re-Create 68 provocateurs with the distinctly different 9/11 truth movement.
Watch the clip.
“In a sorry attempt to re-create Abbie Hoffman’s satirical stunt aimed at levitating the Pentagon, a dozen Re-create ‘68 stragglers dressed up like the cast of Harry Potter, wielded magic wands and joined hands to float the Denver Mint,” writes Malkin in her syndicated column today. “The Mint stayed firmly on the ground. To salvage the abysmal turnout, an unhinged contingent of 9/11 conspiracy theorists started barking at me. One buffoon shouted, “Kill Michelle Malkin,” while the levitation experts chanted, “Peace and Justice!” and a wizard paraded around in his “Arrest Bush” T-shirt with Che Guevara promoters tossing fake quarters in the air.”
“Desperate to salvage the fizzled demonstration, 9/11 nutball Alex Jones started barking at me and attempting to make a scene and incite a riot,” Malkin further elaborates.
The foundation of Malkin’s riposte, that Alex Jones decided to confront her in order to salvage a failed protest, is nothing more than a bald faced lie. The Denver Mint protest was wholly organized and attended by members of Re-Create 68, and not by “9/11 conspiracy theorists”.
Indeed, the 9/11 truth movement’s shutdown of Chris Matthews’ MSNBC show was a wild success, in comparison to the pathetic spectacle of the phony left-wing group Re-Create 68, adorned in ludicrous wizard outfits, and their self-defeating attempts to “levitate” the Denver Mint.
Malkin’s feigned outrage may fool Fox News’ rapidly declining number of geriatric viewers, but the real outrage is the fact that this anti-American piece of filth is still given a platform after she wrote a book advocating government critics, Muslims and other designated undesirables be put in internment camps. Malkin is also a staunch torture advocate and likes to spend her time defending people who kill puppies. Nice lady. When Alex Jones called her a “monster” he was doing her a favor. The real depth of this little bitch’s evil cannot be expressed by mere words alone.
Another blow-hard who can’t get his facts straight is Andrew Bolt of the Australian Herald Sun, who writes on his blog, ”Kill Michelle Malkin!” Just another peace protest. The puffed-up thug at the head of the mob, some of whom shout death threats against Malkin, is radio “host” Alex Jones.”
The fact that those shouting “Kill Michelle Malkin” were also screaming “Alex Jones is a capitalist stooge” goes ignored by Bolt, who lumps in Re-Create 68’s provocateurs with Jones, seemingly satisfied with spewing a one sentence hit piece rather than telling the truth about the incident.
Dozens of phony conservative right-wing blogs have parroted the “kill Michelle Malkin” ad hominem smear attack, in most cases without retractions. Respondents to such articles have largely attacked the writers as having got the facts completely backward, but the lie continues to be replicated.
Also overlooked is the fact that one of Michelle Malkin’s stooges is caught on tape lying to police in an attempt to frame Alex Jones, claiming that Alex punched her bodyguard and shouted death threats, when in reality Malkin’s bodyguard assaulted Alex and his crew, and the death threats were made by provocateurs completely unaffiliated with Alex Jones.
We are also forced to stomach yellow tabloid headlines like “Mint Levitation Event Degenerates into Attack on Woman” and “Blogger Michelle Malkin Attacked in Denver near DNC08″ – quite how shouting at someone constitutes an “attack” is not explained. Another article frames it as a “mob attack on conservative commentator Michelle Malkin”. In reality, the only people engaged in violence and assault were Malkin’s self-appointed bodyguards, who elbowed and shoved Jones and his crew. One particularly aggressive character was the guy in the black Darth Vader shirt and glasses shown behind Malkin in the following picture. He physically assaulted both Jones and his cameraman Rob Jacobson.
“This is the second time that a Fox News commentator has been accosted by members of Recreate 68 since convention festivities began Sunday,” continues the article. Wrong again. Alex Jones is not a member of Re-Create 68 and in fact has been harassed constantly by them all week.
“Jones, accompanied by little more than a handful of protesters that showed up for the event were documented chanting “Kill Michelle Malkin,” only moments after chanting their previous refrain of “Love! Peace! Justice!” claims another blog.
As we pointed out, the provocateurs chanting “Kill Michelle Malkin” were part of a group who had that same day attempted to bullhorn Alex Jones himself, but the guilt-by-association smear tactic is woven seamlessly into the hit piece.
We are putting neo-con blogs on notice – any attempt to imply that Alex Jones advocates violence against Michelle Malkin – when such comments were clearly made by individuals who had no connection to Alex Jones – will be judged on a case by case basis and defamation charges will be considered should any consequences arise from these lies.
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August 27th, 2008 at 10:17 am
Correct your previous article Watson!
http://www.notaprisonplanet.com/wordpress/?p=8
August 27th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Keep up the good work.
The assholes will be arriving shortly and we should not be surprised by thier audacity, stupidity and temerity to be “in the news”. C’mon dumbasses…. whaddayagot today?
August 27th, 2008 at 10:31 am
It’s all a matter of degrees. Everyone has their own agenda, everybody is badmouthing and picking on someone else. Everyone is trying to link some idiot with someone who has nothing to do with them. This is all more like watching an episode of the Jerry Springer Show or maybe WWF wrestling than watching the behind-the-scenes DNC. A good bar brawl would be more honest actually. I’ve watched every piece of footage of these events from every different angle and outlet. EVERYONE who is in the “limelight” can be seen looking like fools at one point or another. Everyone wants to be a star. And AJ looks like a typical loudmouth 12 year old spoiled fat kid having a tantrum. How is this supposed to make us alternative thinkers look like anything other than fools? You can say that Alex did not advocate violence all you want, but what actually happened is that he was NOT THINKING because he was either so emotionally wrapped up in the moment, or because he WANTED to make a spectacle of himself for the notoriety so badly, and in those few moments he could have easily (inadvertently) stirred up enough of his followers (friends OR enemies) to cause Ms. Malkin to be physically harmed. And no matter what you think about someone, the DNC is NOT THE TIME AND PLACE for all that. Not when you think about how many NWO cops are hanging around with nothing better to do… No, Alex just got caught with his pants down, and the ripple effect caused a bunch of total morons to simply come out of the woodwork. Think I’ll go back to may soap opera now.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:31 am
Alex, it looks like you got those people scared.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:34 am
You white trailer trash, Alex Jones. I not even talk to you. I’m big media celebrity cause I know how do the kow-tow.
You just think you free, Alex Jones. We get you.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:38 am
wow she got a warm embrace from the business people…. No kidding, im wondering how much they paid off this NWO sock puppet.
Cos she sure as hell didnt get a warm embrace from WORKING CLASS citizens. You know Malkin, the people who your neocon constituants REGULARLY SCREW OVER.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Ya know, Alex, nobody wants YOU to get hurt either and it seems you are pretty much prancing around Denver stirring up folks purposefully and creating news without paying attention to what’s actually going on around you. You have lots of supporters and you have lots of enemies too, I’m sure. This episode of the DNC Alex Jones drama points out just how little you are actually paying attention. Your safety and your name ARE at stake in this particular spotlight, surely you are not too emotional to realize that? A wise yogi once said something to the effect that when your mouth is going you are not learning anything…
August 27th, 2008 at 10:50 am
Alex Jones is an anti-war protester?
Yes, the cooks were out. Malkin tops the list.
Yes, you do have to laugh at it. Laugh right in your face Malkin, you sell out little bitch.
Yes, Malkin consistantly receives a warm reception from the Democratic sell outs. They know she’s playing her bit part to divide Americans (as if that’s hard to do).
The conservative henchmen will always have their facts wrong. We’re the good guys even though the United States government and its agents have murdered and imprisoned more people than all other nations combined since the end of World War II.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:55 am
alex i can see how easy it would be to get sucked into some sort of verbal argument at a place like that especially with all the energy flowing there. but you should keep your cool and let them do all the sceaming while you remain calm and collective. then you wont look as ridiculas as them and they will make themselves look even worse and more aggresive
August 27th, 2008 at 10:59 am
she – like her supporters – are a cumb dunts
August 27th, 2008 at 11:02 am
She sure sounds rational, but what is that smell??! I have a good sense of smell, and wish I could teach it to others. Everyone needs to use their heads for more than growing hair.
Alex had his pants on the whole time. I watched.
If you can’t handle genuine emotion, then don’t criticize those who can. Coulda-woulda-shoulda doesn’t fly in this world. Nobody got hurt and the cops, out of respect I suspect, left Alex to the crowd, and because of his efforts, WE are getting to the PTB.
August 27th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Keep up the Great Work Alex! For someone as educated as yourself to be characterized as some fluffy media pundit is emblematic of the FACT that we are in the “ridicule” stage of Gandhi’s prophetic saying. Let all the people who once IGNORED all this LAUGH all they want. Then after theyre tired of laughing like this, let them FIGHT their last fight, as our VICTORY in THIS war is certain. When the ammunition of a war is INFORMATION, the faction that actually digests information and acts on it rather than acting on the decorum of machine politics will win every time! We need light and intense emotion in this fight, as the monotonous, exclusive “politics” of the 20th century has proven to produce even more secretive, perverted politics than you yourself have been accused of practicing to-day. Power to INFO and the reasonable ability to discern DISINFO!
August 27th, 2008 at 11:11 am
This not over yet. I get you, Alex Jones! I’m MK Ultra, Project Monarch. We die before quit.
August 27th, 2008 at 11:13 am
neo cons will reincarnate as maggots
August 27th, 2008 at 11:15 am
Me so hony alex
August 27th, 2008 at 11:21 am
Thanks, Ben. I couldn’t have said it better.
August 27th, 2008 at 11:43 am
I sorry alex, I go first to death camp
August 27th, 2008 at 11:48 am
I am the lord God and I say that all neo cons will be revealed at traitors!
August 27th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
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August 27th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
pat on the back to alex jones and co for confronting these stooges.
i see michelle wasnt up for discussing what she has said previously on tape, shes nothing but a coward who is all mouth and no trousers when she is in the propaganda studios (fox) but when shes confronted for her extremist comments she cowers away like a scared little girl.
keep up the exvellant work alex and co we need more people like you.
respect!!!!
August 27th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
This is so much of a staged problem, reaction, solution neocon game that it is a sham intell operation. Those low GS level agents should be reassigned immediately. This is pathetic. The COINTELLPRO clowns create an incident, then that incident is overblown and reported local affiliates (and “sources”). The source story is picked up by AP, Reuters, etc., and then the national corporate media reports the version as truth. There is plausuble deniability because the pathetic corporate media can simply claim they picked up the story from a “respected” wire service and run with it. By the time the story is retracted (if it even is), the tale has circulated to the neocon fanatics who pick it up from there and blog it. Furthermore, blog services pump the filthy news material to the basement dwellers, who further spread the lies. Our only hope is to expose all of this with the use of thousands of handheld video cameras which are fed live into a database, so that tapes and chips can not be confiscated by the scum bags. Then the truth can be broadcast on Youtube, copied and continually posted just as Infowars is doing now.
Good job.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
This bitch is indeed a fucking liar!!!
But why kill her!?
I would fuck her to death
))))))))
August 27th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Thanks Art, I couldn’t have said it better!
August 27th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
I’m scared of the ‘Illumi-naughty’
August 27th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
“That make-up makes you look a a lot better on tv, looks like that evil is starting to get to your soul … your disgusting wicked new world order trash”
-Alex Jones regulating Michelle Malkin
That pug-faced,lying whore is no lady….better decribed as war mongering subhuman trash.
“He” and “We” have every right to yell in the face/verbally assault garbage that spends every day hurting humanity.
Malkin is almost as putrid as Ann Coulter and i slept like a rock thanks to AJ regulating that filth.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
She got a “warm embrace… from the business people” I bet.
It was from the corporate fuQers that are paying off the politicians!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMBZDwf9dok
Keep up the fight Truthers!
August 27th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Wise Guy, Your pee pee would probably fall off.Interspecies,(human\reptilian) love making can be dangerous!
August 27th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Paul Watson said…..”One particularly aggressive character was the guy in the black Darth Vader shirt and glasses shown behind Malkin in the following picture. He physically assaulted both Jones and his cameraman Rob Jacobson.”
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I challenge you nutcases to point me to a video where “Darth Vader shirt guy” touches Alex Jones.
I CHALLENGE YOU PEOPLE!!!!
SHAME ON PAUL WATSON. tHE LIES OF aLEX jONES AND pAUL wATSON WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
August 27th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Well, post links to some of these blogs. Let’s see ‘em.
August 27th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Well. I don’t think all of this went as well as it could have. Right now people are slandering Alex Jones and he certainly made it easy, yelling down at a woman who is shorter than him and maybe 100lbs soaking wet.
I’m not speaking against Alex. I love him. I think he’s one of the best shots we have against taking back out country. But letting his anger get to him and screaming things like that damage his credability. Not to mention put him in incredible danger. That big neanderthal standing infront of him could have dozed Alex into the ground “Because Alex assaulted him” and the guy probably would have won.
Right now, the Malkin Morons are tearing Alex apart. Because Malkin has ties to Fox, who do you think is going to get more coverage? Some of you all talking like a bunch of badasses “Fuck her to death” makes a lot of us (in my opinion) think you take nothing serious. This is serious. Check out what they’re saying on her comment board. It’s horrible.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008...../#comments
August 27th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
I knew it!! I knew it!! I knew Faux “News” was going to go after Alex today!! I’ll clue you guys in; when I’m up at 5 a.m. getting ready for work, I turn on the radio and listen to the local Fox Sports station to catch up the overnight baseball scores, etc. I’ve noticed every now and then the morning host will tip his hand on what the talking points of the day will be on Faux “News” when anything remotely political comes up in the conversation. Case in point: this morning he started talking about the Dem’s convention and then started screaming into the mic something to the effect of “THESE PEOPLE ARE EEEEVVVILLLLLL!!” The exact same way Alex does when he gets revved up about a subject….coincidence?? I think you guys know the answer to that; this is Faux “News” we’re dealing with, after all.
August 27th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
http://www.onemorepromethean.com
August 27th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Here…you want to see violence against a woman at the DNC?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxQwdnZ5v00
August 27th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Fuck the police and fuck this shit hole fascist country.
August 27th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
The media does this kind of thing to Scientology since forever.
August 27th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Gotta say I agree with MN Underground. I support Alex. I’ve done research. Most of his stuff is verifiable with just some basic research.
But you can’t let your temper get the best of you, especially with everyone having some form of a camera around these days. The only way to wake people up is with calm, collected speech, providing facts. Alex’s passion–which is also his saving grace–got the best of him and it’s hurting the movement. I looked at Malkin’s board and they are shredding not just Alex, but Ron Paul, Jerome Corsim and anyone who dares question 9/11.
Keep up the fight Alex. We’re behind you. But debate with calm, reasoned talk. Don’t be like O’Reilly and others in the mainstream who do nothing but shout. You’re better than that.
August 27th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Well, there’s no such thing as bad publicity, and not if it brings people to this site to find out what’s really going on. But I’d like to say this to the spineless, sub-human scum in the Western media: the New World Order won’t even last as long as the Third Reich. When it collapses in flames, we the people will use anti-terror laws and all the new powers our governments have accrued over the last few years against ALL our enemies, and not just the little guys. By all our enemies I mean the media, politicians, bankers – anyone we deem to be a ‘threat’.
August 27th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
I agree with Alex… we are so far gone.
I have already moved out of the country and have relocated permanently in New Zealand. I think Alex should consider doing the same thing.
August 27th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
I agree ‘reasoned talk’ has its place, but the country is almost completely down the tubes at this point. Where is your sense of urgency??? We need to confront the agents of our destruction wherever we find them. We need to get in their faces. Rather than giving advice about manners and etiquete, folks urging that “everyone just get along” should put more thought into the whole point of the confrontation. (It was supposed to be a demonstration, for crying out loud): The dying lamestream media not only lies to us incessantly, their agents like Malkin actively provacateur incidents against American citizens who are standing up for their rights!! They’ve been caught a hundred times, and now it’s 101 (on digital fillm) thanks to Infowars and We Are Change.
August 27th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Fnordytwo, Paul Joseph Watson may consider correcting the article not necessary or of low priority because it was 100% correct when written. I would give credit to Paleo Pat, webmaster of http://www.politicalbyline.org, for changing the headline of his thread from accusing Alex Jones of threatening Michelle Malkin to clarifying the opposite, that Alex did not. But Pat changed his headline last night, the evening of August 26, after I warned him in an attempted post to the thread, a message that he squelched, as is his right as moderator, but I will post it here to set the record straight in light of other recent posts demonstrating Paleo Pat has reached a new low. Instead of Paleo Pat issuing a correction of some kind, as has been his practice by writing an “Update” (in bold), he engaged in a counterattack coordinated with http://www.notaprisonplanet.com, to which he linked (instead of posting my message below), who posted the deceptively-worded article by “Andrew,” to which you linked, suggesting Paul Joseph Watson should correct his article. Unlike Paul Joseph Watson, Andrew is some anonymous, incredible faceless entity who wrote:
“Watson then cites a Political Byline article which clearly states in it’s title that Jones “DID NOT threaten Malkin….”
Now, I’m not sure if that was always there, things do get muddied up in the frenzy of news, but it is there now and Watson
hasn’t made any attempt to modify his article. They followed up and so should he.”
There was never a correction or retraction issued, specifying the headline of the threat was changed, just finger-pointing aimed at Paul Joseph Watson. Paul Joseph Watson told the truth, Pat did not, but reluctantly changed the lie to something closer to the truth for his own legal protection. Then he retaliated against Paul. No need for Paul to dance to their tune as they are unfamiliar with etiquette, law, or logic.
Let’s make note of the association between the Democrat-oriented http://www.peoplespresscollective.org, the self-acclaimed paleo-conservative http://www.politicalbyline.com, and the anti-Alex Jones site http://www.notaprisonplanet.com.
I hope my “post that never was” on http://www.politicalbyline.com is instructive that we ought to let webmasters know exactly how what they post on their sites and blogs makes them legally vulnerable. Here is the message I wrote that Paleo Pat moderated away from public view:
Paleo Pat: (Freedom of speech is a bitch, ain’t it? -Pat)
Timbawulf:
Not really, speak up. It’s your blog and no one’s stopping you. I’m glad to have just found you wrote on your main page, “I also said his followers were saying `Kill Michelle Malkin’, which I found to be wrong later. ” By keeping the headline of this thread, “Conservative Blogger Michelle Malkin Threatened and Harassed by 9/11 Truther Alex Jones,” which has no basis in fact, you’re open to legal action. Michelle Malkin stayed her ground, despite the growing gathering, yet you claim Alex Jones harassed and threatened her. She did nothing to discourage Alex’s behavior. To the contrary, she engaged him in conversation and photography. It sounds like you site freedom of speech to absolve yourself of the shame for the libelous headline of this thread plus cutting and pasting the lie from the aforementioned site. No responsible webmaster posts a false video caption followed later in the blog with a small note saying that the caption is in controversy by “some.” The video was important enough for you to post, why not at least tell us what facts you tend to believe the video portrays? Is it just Alex Jones’ confrontation with Michelle Malkin that makes you so biased against him or is there something else about him you dislike or with which you disagree? Do you have anything good to say about him? I noticed you have only compliments regarding Michelle. You don’t let her pro-internment camp stance stop you from promoting her. Michelle Malkin claims an actor played the sick marine who unashamedly put online a video of himself tossing a puppy from an Iraqi cliff. The Marine Corps promised to discipline this ill marine. Maybe she got confused and thought the Marines would go after the Screen Actors Guild.
“When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or he will cease to be honest.” – Mark Twain
August 27th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
MICHELLE MALKIN IS A HYPOCRITE & LYING BITCH
This link is to an article from Michelle Malkin (the same one that made fun of Alex Jones as a “9/11 conspiracy theory nut” on her FauxNews Channel………..Well Michelle is wondering “What really happened on United flight93″ , among other 9/11 “conspiracies……….She seems to have the same questions as Alex Jones, back in 2002, and then seemed to “flip” her views when she got the call to be on FauxNews, take a look ; http://www. jewishworldreview. com/michelle/malkin030802. asp
ALEX WE ARE WITH YOU 100%, WE SAW THE WHOLE THING.
August 27th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Malkin is a nwo propagandist strawman. She most likely didn’t write Terms of Endearment, probably her very wierd husband. In any case everytime they say on FOX or any MSM channel “haha these people think the goverment killed there own citizens on 9-11, they are crazy” they discredit themselves. Polls show that most americans believe 9-11 was at the bare minimum covered up and allowed to happen, while another large portion of those Americans polled KNOW it was a false flag. SO anyone whom knows that 9-11 has anomalies will clearly see they are full of sh*t. The MSM is controlled demolitioning their credibility. How Ironic =X
August 27th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Yes, Maria, it’s very important that Michelle Malkin is a turncoat and if she can turn her back on her conscience, she can take a berating from Alex. In that article I was amazed to read all the topics of official stories that she questions. I think it angered Alex that, not only is she a willing weapon of mass deception, she lied to his face when she claimed to not support concentration camps in her own book. Just to be clear, Michelle Malkin’s sincere article before she turned to the dark side can be found by doing a google of “Just Wondering Michelle Malkin.”
Your link was broken, here it is again:
http://www.jewishworldreview.c.....030802.asp
And mirrored at:
http://www.caglepost.com/colum.....ering.html
Here’s her article:
Just Wondering
by Michelle Malkin, March 8, 2002
The six-month anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks is upon us. Here are a half-dozen unsolved mysteries still on my mind: What really happened on United Airlines Flight 93? As the Philadelphia Daily News reported back in November, many folks in Shanksville, Pa., where the hijacked Boeing 757 crashed, believe the plane was shot down. Eyewitnesses reported seeing a small, unmarked jet flying overhead immediately after impact; others are convinced they heard the piercing sound of a missile. A federal flight controller told The Telegraph of Nashua, N.H., that an F-16 had indeed been in “hot pursuit” of Flight 93 until it hit the ground. One of the 911 calls from a passenger on the flight indicated that there was an explosion aboard the plane. The FBI immediately confiscated the tape. The eight-mile-wide debris field seems to bolster claims of an on-board explosion. So did the discovery of a one-ton chunk of the plane’s engine far from the rest of the crash site — which some say points to evidence that a heat-seeking missile targeted the flight. Then there’s the eight-minute gap from the time all cell-phone calls from the plane ceased and the time it crashed. Although both the cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder were recovered, not a single scrap about what was on the black boxes has been officially released. This despite the government’s otherwise routine release of such information. (Recall that after American Airlines Flight 587 crashed in New York last November, the feds released detailed information from one of the black boxes within less than two days.) The feds insist on keeping all the Flight 93 data secret because disclosing such information might “interfere with enforcement proceedings.” Against whom? All the hijack culprits are dead. What really happened on American Airlines Flight 11? Did one of the hijackers have a gun on board? Was it planted before the flight took off, or was it smuggled on? Either way, shouldn’t someone be held accountable if such an egregious security breach did in fact take place? Investigative reporter Paul Sperry, formerly of Investor’s Business Daily and now with WorldNetDaily.com, scooped the mainstream press by exposing a high-level, internal report from the Federal Aviation Administration. It detailed the alleged shooting of Flight 11 passenger Daniel Lewin by hijacker Satam Al Suqami. According to the document, which was later obtained by The Washington Post, USA Today and others, an onboard flight attendant reported in a phone call that “one bullet was reported to have been fired” during the flight, killing Lewin before the plane crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Center. FAA officials dismissed the leaked memo as a draft and claimed that the very specific report of gunfire — including the names of the victim, shooter, and their precise seat numbers — was an editing error. Just a typo, huh? Who murdered Katherine Smith, and why? Smith was the Tennessee state license examiner who had been implicated last month in a phony ID scam involving a group of shady Middle Eastern men from New York City. Investigators say there are “connections” between the ring and the Sept. 11 terrorists; one of them had a repair pass in his possession that gave him access to the lower levels of the World Trade Center basement. It was dated Sept. 5. A day before Smith was to appear in court over the matter, she died in a bizarre and fiery crash inside a car registered to one of her Middle Eastern co-defendants. Smith was burned beyond recognition; her arms and legs disintegrated in the flames. Yet, her car was traveling barely over 20 mph when it hit a utility pole, and damage to the vehicle was minimal. This week, the Tennessee Highway Patrol concluded definitively that her “death was not the result of the crash itself. Her death was by other means.” Is this the vengeful work of al Qaeda killers still on the loose? Finally: Why does Norm Mineta still have a job? Who’s responsible for the anthrax attacks? And the most nagging question of all: So where the hell is Osama bin Laden, anyway?
August 27th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Michelle Malkin–Hmmm….I wasn’t aware that they stacked shit that high………..
August 27th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
WOW those articles MUST go viral NOW. This is the key to completely DESTROYING her credibility. I cant believe she was actually a decent human being at one point. I’ve always thought that when she married her wierdo husband she married into a NWO bloodline.. hence the NSA guarding her and her tremendous flipflop. Anyway yea obviously she’s a huge hypocrit i cant believe she wrote that article and has the balls to FlipFlop for FOX.
August 27th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
Another “Benedict Arnold” to put on trial, when the time comes…
August 27th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
“Alex Jones is not a member of Re-Create 68 and in fact has been harassed constantly by them all week.”
SO WHAT IN HELL WAS HE DOING THERE THEN?
August 27th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Alex Jones is not a member of Re-Create 68 and in fact has been harassed constantly by them all week.
SO WHAT WAS HE DOING THERE THEN?
August 27th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Alex Jones is not a member of Re-Create 68 and in fact has been harassed constantly by them all week.
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So why was he there?
August 27th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Winston, either
(a) You’re not aware that Alex has been bringing exposure and more popular disapproval to the fact that Recreate68 promotes violent resistance, rather than civil disobedience, or
(b) You wouldn’t understand the answer because confronting bullies, liars, and agents provocateur might seem inconceivable.
Capturing their dirty tricks on video is another great benefit of Alex and crew being there.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Alex and crew are there to confront and expose the dirty tricks of bullies, liars, and agents provocateurs. He’s been bringing more popular disapproval for Recreate68, mainly because on their website they promote violent resistance, the opposite of civil disobedience. See http://www.recreate68.com/shieldbook.pdf for starters.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Me soooooooo horny !
August 27th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
The media are lying about this story.What else is new?You have the video to back you up Alex.Now,let’s move on.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
media’s have no truth
August 27th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
hey timbawulf
you don’t see the certain contradiction between your points?
It’s Alex Jones’ view (and seemingly your own) that screaming in the face of a small woman *REPORTER* is acceptable behaviour – so long as it is in the name of “civil disobedience”. Oh really? Charming.
You condone anybody who might now or in the future wish to do the same to Alex, or yourself, or anyone at all? Well, good luck with that – I hope you can take it.
What you have totally failed to answer is why Alex was there in the first place? You and he will admit Alex thought ReCreate68 might be a nest of provocateurs – and Alex certainly doesn’t believe in the “communist trash” about “redistribution of wealth” – which was THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE DEMO.
So why was he there? And how come it was Alex who made the most provocation? That’s what you are missing………
August 27th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
JUST SAW THE INSIDE EDITION on tv.
It wasnt totally bad. THey didnt get all the info and they also didnt have the kill malkin part.
THAT is sooo cool!… they even brought up 9/11!
I thought this was going to be spun so badly on inside edition but it wasnt so bad.
I think we contained the damage by those damn kids shouting that crap.
I SAW ALEX ON REGULAR TV I CANT BELIEVE IT WOOHOOOOOOOOOOO
its the start to get alex jones as a household name
August 27th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
This woman of mass deception who told Alex to point his camera elsewhere, then points her camera in his face, no doubt getting unglamourous shots, while engaging Alex. I’m not a lying WMD bent on looking brave, as is Michelle, so I would have likely walked away or told Alex to leave me alone. But Michelle is ashamed of promoting concentration camps so she denies it. Infuriating? Are you saying there ought to be a law against screaming accusatorily in public at a propagandist to attract attention? As for why Alex is there, I answered factually. It’s important to reveal that there are have historically been taxpayer-funded agents provacateur at events such as this and far less well-attended.
Obviously whether it’s a WMD reporter or law enforcement, people act differently when they know they are being recorded. With each camera, the probablity for civility goes up. Winston, if this answer still doesn’t satisfy you, ask him. I think you’d be most successful contacting him during his four-hour weekday show or two-hour Sunday show. That way you can get a candid reply and record it. If you tell him you disagree, he’ll make your call priority.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Andrew Bolt from Australia (thats where Im from) just got ownde in his comments section. I had no idea so many Aussies like me were out there!!!
We will win!!!
August 27th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
timbawulf said: “As for why Alex is there, I answered factually.”
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No you didn’t – you vaguely suggested it was something to do with revealing “that there are have historically been taxpayer-funded agents provacateur at events such as this and far less well-attended.”
And Alex being the most provocative person in the vicinity helps reveal that, does it?
Don’t be ridiculous. NOTHING excuses Alex’s behaviour.
brainofjfk is far more insightful –
“I think we contained the damage by those damn kids shouting that crap.”
Exactly.
August 27th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
timbawulf said: “Capturing their dirty tricks on video is another great benefit of Alex and crew being there.”
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sheesh! – but Alex was the one up to dirty tricks if anyone! Alex was the one charging around shouting “Where is her!”
Alex was the one shouting his head off, leading a pack-hunt after a small woman accusing her of being “a monster”.
At a demo he doesn’t support – organised by people he knows don’t like his WHITE POPULISM.
And yet that Alex is the center of a storm of thuggery around such a rally is blamed on SOMEONE ELSE ENTIRELY!
Oh yeah – Malkin sought out such treatment from Jones, did she? Who are you kidding!?
She escaped and Jones chased after her – “Where is her!” he shouted……..whilst he did an impression of a witch-hunter.
And yet Jones is REVEALING provocateurs? Friggin hilarious.
August 28th, 2008 at 4:52 am
Alex Jones committed no crime and encouraged no one to commit a crime. Provokative, true speech, which Alex engaged in, can not be compared to those who engage in provocateuring, such as those two acquaintances of Michelle’s who made false accusations against Alex. Did you miss the video clips? Michelle Malkin promotes crimes against humanity, not to mention against that puppy dog thrown off a cliff in Iraq by a U.S. Marine, an act far more maniacal than one person yelling at another.
August 28th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Timbawulf:
I downloaded the PDF document you linked to from the recreate website. NOWHERE is there any reference to the use of violence by this group! It is all about DEFENSE and DEFENSIVE EQUIPMENT!
I in no way support the idea of using aggressive physical acts against innocent, peaceful protesters and officers who are NOT transgressing the protests. I do not agree with Re-Create 68’s tactics, nor their blatant attempts at disinfo. Their manual, that you linked to, does NOT even hint at the USE of force against the police! Please do your research more carefully as it WILL help your credibility!!!
By the way, I am NOT OPPOSED to self-defense when it is needed. The so-called ‘law’ may try to outlaw self-defense and call it things like: ‘resisting arrest’, ‘disorderly behavior’, and ‘inciting violence’, but the facts remain. If you choose never to defend yourself where the cause is righteous, you will FOREVER be a slave!!!
“Just say NO to bullies!”
-JSSmith
August 28th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Winston:
YOU ARE A LOST CAUSE!!!
If you are so blind as to not see that Alex Jones has engaged in no threatening behavior, unless you consider try to expose the phonyism of this phony ‘journalist’ by reciting the facts threatening, then this whole discourse is WAY ABOVE YOUR HEAD! Watch the videos. Better yet, if you haven’t visited http://www.justin.tv, GO DO IT!!! You just might, if you really are interested, LEARN SOMETHING NEW!
Your previous post have ALL been the same un-educated, personal, baseless attacks with absolutely NO merit! Just who are you? Are you another pro-government, pro-facist stooge??? Just thought I’d ask, that’s all?!?!
Timbawulf: You seem to have come a ways in your discourses. Is this because you are beginning to see the light some more? Please do some more research and you will really see the ‘big picture’. This protest may be the “tipping point” that brings in a different future for us all. The government’s ‘left-right’ paradigm is about to come to a crashing halt!!! HOO-HAH!!!
“I love the information wars! You simply have to love it!!!”
-JSSmith
August 29th, 2008 at 10:40 am
JSSmith: “Alex Jones has engaged in no threatening behavior,”
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Don’t be so ridiculous. Just watch the videos – it is plain as day it’s Alex doing the brownshirting.
JSSmith: “Are you another pro-government, pro-facist stooge???”
ROFL. Alex is the pro-fascist. Alex Jones works with, and presumably PAYS – Big Jim Tucker – colleague of FASCIST RACIST WILLIS CARTO.
Fancy giving your views on Willis Carto?
Alex also works with Mike Rivero.
Mike Rivero is big into Curt Maynard – Rivero promotes Maynard heavily – even having him on his radio show as main guest.
Maynard is an overtly violent racist – he says things like “time to cull the nigger herd”.
Why don’t you, and AJ, address that?
If Malkin deserves such treatment (nobody does) – then why doesn’t AJ give the same treatment to the people he works with – Tucker and Rivero, for example?
Mike Rivero has called for torture for hackers – he described them as domestic terrorists – said they should be in Guantanamo.
HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT TO MALKIN? WHY DOES AJ WORK WITH PRO_TORTURE RACIST RIVERO, BUT ATTACKS PRO_TORTURE Malkin?
HOW COME???
August 29th, 2008 at 10:46 am
timbawulf: “Provokative, true speech, which Alex engaged in, can not be compared to those who engage in provocateuring…”
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Do you really think that makes any sense? Provocative SHOUTING and WAVING OF FISTS is different to provocateuring? Eh? You’ve lost your balance, dude.
Does leading a PACK-HUNT after a small woman and shouting “Where is that MONSTER!” qualify as “free-speech”?
It’s a dangerous precedent for you people to be condoning such behaviour. You debase the rest of us who find it intolerable and violent.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:21 am
Alex Jones was right on! These people (traitors!) need to be exposed as loud and as often as possible. This is no “small lady”. She has the power of the media at her fingertips and uses it to advocate and support evil. She also has many bodyguards. Evrythign AJ said is true. She is a monster and she is selling out to the NWO. Winston. I guess, wants us in camps. Where will you go , Winston, when they finally come for YOU? Politically correct is a term made up by the same people who are controlling what you watch on Fox news, to keep you from calling them what they are. Traitorous fucking bastards!
August 29th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Winston:
At what time index did Alex say, “Where is her?” I think that’s your grammatically incorrect statement, not Alex’s. Maybe you’re confused about when he said, “get her,” to his cameraman, Aaron Dykes, to make sure the camera was on her. You’re imply Alex supports “white populism” and is a mysogynist because he hollered at a documented hypocrite warmonger who happens to be a woman. Plus, somehow you imagine Recreate68 has exclusive territorial rights on public property near the DNC.
Malkin engaged Alex in conversation up to the point where she could no longer deny his true accusations, despite the growing crowd which swarmed so quickly, it appeared difficult for anyone to escape. You can’t blame Alex for the throng. As far as I can tell, he had only two friends who him, photographer, Aaron Dykes, and We Are CHANGE Member, Luke Rudkowski. Too bad she didn’t have the courage to admit her lies. If she had, don’t you believe Alex would have went silent? Exposing her is more important than worrying about the prick to her conscience.
No one except you is saying Michelle sought out Alex. No one except you is saying Alex engaged in dirty tricks, was provocateuring, and “did an impression of a witch-hunter.”
The French word, “provocateur” is used, usually in the context of “agent provocateur,” because it has a different connotation from the English equivalent. Look it up and you’ll find that “provocateur” is distinct from “provocator,” yet “provocateur” is synonymous with COINTELPRO in the U.S.. If Alex were to buy something provocative for his wife from Victoria’s Secret, would that make her a provocateur or just provocative?
What would you call it when a stranger pretends to be Alex’s friend, calls for killing Michelle, than asks Alex why he called for killing Michelle, and leaves with Michelle when the confrontation is over? What would you call it when another acquaintance of Michelle’s makes a false report? It is “provocateuring,” but I’m not sure whether you know what it means because you compare it to “provocative” rather than looking up the word.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ma.....jones.html
“One of Michelle Malkin’s stooges is caught on tape lying to police in an attempt to frame Alex Jones, claiming that Alex punched her bodyguard and shouted death threats, when in reality Malkin’s bodyguard assaulted Alex and his crew, and the death threats were made by provocateurs completely unaffiliated with Alex Jones.”
In the above-linked video clip, I can’t identify law enforcement, but I think Alex clarified on his show that the said “stooge” made a false report to an NBC security guard, not to a law enforcement officer. If this is correct, the article ought to be corrected and a retraction should be issued.
It’s too bad you don’t take notice that government-funded provocateurs are a threat to your right to free speech and redress of grievances.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Personally, I advocate creating a new political party based on the Constitution of the United States and Hitler’s National Socialism. Yoo know that old saying “A tyranical despot always starts out as a great liberator?” I think we should just reverse the outcome: start out as tyranical Nazis, round up all the corporate lapdogs and promoters of “hate speech” like Malkin and Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity and Limbaugh and Pat Robertson and Richard John Neuhaus and shoot them in the fucking head. Then once the neoconservative fascists are all dead, we’d live in a freer society. Of course the irony of this, is of course, that that makes ME guilty of “hate speech” too.
Never mind. It sounded good while I was typing it.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
SMith:
1. My last post should help you understand the difference between “provocative” and “provocateur,” but to verify what I say and for you to be able use those words to communicate, look them up.
2. At what time index did Alex lead a pack hunt after Michelle Malkin?
3. At what time index did Alex say, “Where is that Monster?.”
If he did, that wouldn’t concern me, I just want to know whether I missed it.
JSMith, you wrote, “It’s a dangerous precedent for you people to be condoning such behaviour. You debase the rest of us who find it intolerable and violent.”
4. Your “rest of us” does not include Michelle Malkin because she was perfectly willing to tolerate and engage Alex is conversation. I doubt she would have if it had been violent.
But I surmise you’re saying Michelle’s free speech is more important than Alex’s. Should there be more laws restraining free speech? Don’t you see that such “laws” would only result in selective enforcement?
Have you seen any of Alex’s other very revealing confrontations with celebrities and current & former politicians? If so, don’t you see benefit to any of them?
August 29th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
SMith:
1. My last post should help you understand the difference between “provocative” and “provocateur,” but to verify what I say and for you to be able use those words to communicate, look them up.
2. At what time index did Alex lead a pack hunt after Michelle Malkin?
3. At what time index did Alex say, “Where is that Monster?.” It wouldn’t concern me if he did, I just want to know whether I missed it.
JSMith, you wrote, “It’s a dangerous precedent for you people to be condoning such behaviour. You debase the rest of us who find it intolerable and violent.”
4. Your “rest of us” does not include Michelle Malkin because she was perfectly willing to tolerate and engage Alex is conversation. I doubt she would have if Alex had been violent.
But I surmise you’re saying Michelle’s free speech is more important than Alex’s. Should there be more laws restraining free speech? Don’t you see that such “laws” would only result in selective enforcement?
Have you seen any of Alex’s other confrontations with celebrities and current & former politicians? If so, don’t you see benefit to any of them?
August 29th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Well, I don’t claim to be an expert on it, especially since when I blow , I blow hard enough for them to call backup and to be handled fairly rudely, but being a pacifist at heart (but, o they will push your buttons, sho’ nuff), from what I gather from you , Mr. Jones, is that you have enough real-time rage in you that they can easily arrange tactical media assaults on you…Remember your Jesus, and if you want , Nietzsche, true strength can weather anything without showing a response, there is more than one way to skin the cat..You are too valuable a public asset to let the idiots sucker you into going ebola in public and letting them spin you as a psychopathic kook..
August 30th, 2008 at 11:15 am
I agree, a little more outward coolness would have been more persuasive to those unfamiliar with Alex’s work, despite Michelle’s [apparent] bodyguard shoving Alex. If Alex had not returned the shove, as he admitted on his show, he would have had grounds for pressing charges which would have reflected poorly on Michelle.
August 30th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Timabwulf – I can only imagine it’s your sycophancy that blinds you to how revolting Alex’s behaviour was.
I wonder what you think nazi brownshirting was like? Completely different because……well, because……errr……erm…….?
Acting as Alex did *is* a threat to freedom of expression.
Condoning such behaviour means one asserts its acceptability. If such behaviour becomes acceptable, can you really believe there would be no CHILLING EFFECT? Only a fool could fail to recognise that such behaviour is intimidating – and a threat to freedom of speech. Why should *EVERYONE* be expected to put up with such appalling behaviour? What else are we *NOT ALLOWED TO BELIEVE*? What other opinions might we hold and for which we should expect such “treatment”?
Malkin’s freedom of speech was threatened – at the demo, where she seemingly had no desire to speak at all – but ALSO her freedom to write articles in the future – to broadcast – to SPEAK HER OPINION.
Must I now rehearse the arguments about how protecting the freespeech of others is the way to protect one’s own? Surely not.
Furious spitting of words like “MONSTER!” into someone’s face is not the way to oppose Malkin’s, or anyone else’s political ideology. Nor is it any way to protect liberty.
It seems “the leader principle” and sycophancy for Alex is leading to failure to recognise the inevitable chilling effect of Alex’s behaviour. There’s a failure to admit how intimidating Alex’s behaviour was. A failure to see the threat in this *to all of us*, particularly in the refusal to see how Alex is encouraging such behaviour, and how condoning it can only further encourage it. We’re ALL threatened by such debasement.
And please, remember, I don’t even need to be the least familiar with Malkin’s opinions to defend her.
That’s what is forgotten by the faux-libertarians supporting Alex Jones.
AJ, prisonplanet and the troofers have been exposed as having no genuine commitment to freedom of speech and assembly etc…..
Consider how often Alex and the troofers paint their shields with such claims as “I may disagree with your opionions, but will fight to the death so you can say it!” ???
And yet what sort of such commitment to free speech has been exposed through this episode? Troofers and AJ have been exposed as possessing hollow commitment to it.
Posters here at PP have even claimed Malkin “deserved it” – because of her views on internment, WOT, racism, torture or whatever…….
That hardly reveals a commitment to impartiality! What happened to “fighting” for Malkin to hold opinions you “MAY DISAGREE WITH”???? No – spit “monster!” into her face instead?
How does the hounding of a small woman by a mob led by Jones shouting “MONSTER!” contribute to positive protection of Malkin’s (or YOUR OWN) rights of free speech, freedom of assembly, protest etc….?
It plainly doesn’t.
So go ahead – continue arguing that brownshirting of journalists is fine, why don’t you?
August 31st, 2008 at 10:44 am
Everyone’s a critic [of Alex], me included. Okay. I wouldn’t have called Michelle Malkin a “monster,” but a “propagandist trying to normalize the same kind of camps used against her ethnic group in World War II,” but maybe that’s too long-winded to be heard in a large croud. I don’t know, I wasn’t in Alex’s sneakers or his “brownshirt.”
SOOO000ooo…what do you think of her unretracted lies and promotion of internment camps? Would you care to join the guests of FEMA’s generosity?
Don’t you wish you were so lucky to be among the Americans still being held in camps right now? Homeland Security issued a complaint against Greg Palast for fimling Exxon’s Baton Rouge refinery, an “infrastructure asset,” where there are 1,600 refugees languishing, interned behind barbed wire in Cancer Alley.
http://www.gregpalast.com/repo.....-security/
Are you or Michelle Malkin comforted knowing that, when needed, you might be the beneficiary of another FEMA solution?
http://infowars.net/articles/m.....8Camps.htm
If you play your cards right, you could be only a slave in the Civilian Inmate Labor Program (Army Regulation 210-35, declassified 1996, begun 1987):
http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf
I hear they serve delicous fluoridated water and breadcrumbs.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:55 am
you haven’t addressed my points.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Winston wrote: “sheesh! – but Alex was the one up to dirty tricks if anyone! Alex was the one charging around shouting `Where is her!’”
I have addressed, but won’t agree with your points because I ask you to prove them. Take this one, simple, little question you haven’t addressed, so I’ll ask you a SECOND and final time:
At what time index did Alex say, “Where is her?” Alex knows how to speak English considerably better than that. It wouldn’t hurt you (or Michelle Malkin) to admit you’re wrong. Facts “is” facts, you might say. If you can’t be honest about the facts, how am I supposed to move on to other things? Like how can you accuse Alex Jones of “white populism?”
You are a fine example of willful ignorance crying foul.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:33 pm
The Bitch lost the ellections (king maker favors) and she is very angry. She lost because the US citizens and the world public now see more clearly the truth thanks to Jones. But only the truth will makes us free. So… take meshures against the Bitch.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:06 pm
You think Hillary could pull some kind of a Perot?
August 31st, 2008 at 9:11 pm
At what time index did Alex say, “Where is her?”
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Why not WATCH the video? Here:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008.....-the-mint/
“where is her?” – “MONSTER!” etc etc
timbawulf: It wouldn’t hurt you (or Michelle Malkin) to admit you’re wrong.
haha. I look forward to you admitting AJ said “Where is her?” Not that it matters.
More importantly, you should admit AJ was desperately wrong to behave like that. It’s disgusting behaviour.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Oh, and AJ’s “white populism”?
Well, there’s his support for the minutemen, for example.
And here’s the rub – the woman you call a racist (Malkin) ALSO supports the Minutemen.
Indeed – Alex Jones and Michelle Malkin share the same agenda on immigration.
So how come Malkin the supposed racist can support Minutemen – but Alex the “definitely not racist” Jones can too?
Here’s a little on the background of the minutemen – which relates to Alex Jones in all sorts of ways. It might help you to understand where Jones has come from, and what the role of his WHITE POPULISM is exactly.
”The Minutemen of today and the militias of a decade ago have many commonalities ideologically,” Burghart said. ”Despite all their ‘law-and-order’ rhetoric, they both rely on illegal paramilitary vigilantism and intimidation to push public policy.”
”They both appear to be expressions of Middle American Nationalism — the notion that ‘middle Americans’ are being squeezed from above by the economic elites, and from below from the multicultural hordes that are sucking the lifeblood from the productive middle.”
”Both the militias and the minutemen create a demonised ‘other’ based on citizenship status: The militias had the ’sovereign citizen’ concept, which divided people into (white) state ’sovereign’ citizens and so-called ‘14th Amendment’ citizens. The Minutemen do it the basis of perceived immigration status.”
He noted that ”both are rife with conspiracy theories. For example, the militias were concerned about the New World Order, while the Minutemen have La Reconquista, which contends that there is a secret plot to re-conquer the American southwest for Mexico.”
Moreover, both the militias and the Minutemen have something in common with the Posse Comitatus, an anti-Semitic white supremacist group that sprung up in the 1970s. Latin for ”power of the county,” the Posse Comitatus was founded in 1971 by retired army lieutenant colonel William Potter Gale.
Gale ”believed that all white, Christian men had an unconditional right to take up arms to enforce the principles of a ‘Constitutional Republic,’ and challenge various ‘unlawful acts’ of the federal government, including integration, taxation and the federal reserve banking system,” Daniel Levitas, the author of ”The Terrorist Next Door. The Militia Movement and the Radical Right” (St Martin’s Press, 2002), told IPS.
Devin Burghart pointed out that in their day, the militias received support and cover from elected officials, including Idaho’s Republican congresswoman, Helen Chenowith.
”These days, the Minuteman Project has received positive reviews from California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and Colorado Congressman Tom Tancreado, as well as the House immigration reform caucus,” he noted. ”
http://www.ipsnews.net/africa/.....news=29786
September 1st, 2008 at 12:19 am
@timbawulf
AJ promotes Jerome Corsi too. Funny that Corsi has such appeal to white nationalists his appearance on right-wing extremist radio show the cesspool was streamed over stormfront radio.
Ah – I must be imagining all these connections to white nationalism, huh?
Why does AJ promote Corsi? There’s 4 interviews with him in audio section alone – and let’s face it – AJ doesn’t have guests he disagrees with, does he?
So – Corsi – promoted by AJ. Corsi – rightwing attack dog against Kerry and Obama. Oh – well done! support Bush – why not?
September 1st, 2008 at 5:17 am
Winston:
Again, you fail to provide a time index for the video. Do you know what a time index is? It’s the time in the video where Alex said what you claim. For example, 3 minutes and 20 seconds would be seen on the video as “3:20.”
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the last time I checked the head of the non-violent Minutemen is of Hispanic descent. About 12 years ago at my local law library I researched the 14th Amendment and produced a segment on my public access show about it. These days it would be easier to research on the computer so I urge you to do so. That aside, have any members of the Minutemen brought physical harm upon another person? Their actions speak louder than words which also speak quite loudly; if you research the 14th Amendment, you’d be surprised to find the Minutement base their opinions on precedent. Twining v. New Jersey should be among the first cases to read. The article you site doesn’t refer to any facts that contradict the beliefs of the Minutemen on this and other issues. But please, whine more about the Minutemen. The more they are protested, the more donations they receive.
Alex often takes exception with Jerome on Iran as have I. I called to disagree with Jerome when he was a guest on Alex’s show about a year ago. Among other things, I reminded him of how Iran has offered 20 unannounced inspections per day anywhere in the country, a fact with which Alex agreed and reinforced. Wouldn’t it be more fair to say Alex “interviews” Jerome rather than “promotes?”
September 1st, 2008 at 5:29 am
Winston: Your panties wouldn’t bunch up like that if you would listen to Alex’s show. How about taking the lace off your panties and you call into the show?
September 1st, 2008 at 8:06 am
timba: Correct me if I’m wrong, but the last time I checked the head of the non-violent Minutemen is of Hispanic descent.
it’s jim gilchrist. check him out before commenting?
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timba: have any members of the Minutemen brought physical harm upon another person?
Shooting people usually causes harm. And that’s what they’ve done.
Minutemen are often aryan nation nazis, christian identity morons etc
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timba: But please, whine more about the Minutemen. The more they are protested, the more donations they receive.
Oh – so now you’re happy aryan nation and national alliance RACIST FASCISTS are supported? I thought you were offended at Malkin’s supposed racism? Some anti-racist you are……..
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timba: Alex often takes exception with Jerome on Iran as have I.
can you find me a single instance of Alex criticising Corsi?
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timba: Wouldn’t it be more fair to say Alex “interviews” Jerome rather than “promotes?”
No.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:32 pm
I was thinking of Al Garza, The National Executive Director of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps (at http://www.minuteman.hq), who is of Hispanic Descent, as distinguished from the Minuteman Project. The President of the Illinois Minuteman Project, Rosanna Pulido, is of Hispanic descent. I asked you to correct
me if I was wrong, which I admit, but you take the opportunity to bitch about nothing – again. What choice names would you call Al Garza and be taken seriously? “Racist fascist?” “White Populist?” – whatever that is. I’m all for removing the Roman Fasces on either side of the Speaker of the House.
Who has been shot by a Minuteman? Aztlan claims a Minuteman murdered a Mexican, but it’s an obvious hoax, apparently by a Minuteman member, yet Aztlan claims it’s true. Is that where you got your info? I couldn’t find an example of violence by the Minuteman so I, again, depend on you to show me.
“Latino immigration reformers: ignoring conventional wisdom, Americans of Hispanic descent are at the forefront in the battle against illegal immigration.”
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/.....0143720366
Go bitch at someone who cares like those Hispanics. I don’t want to contract drug-resistant tuberculosis, wet leprousy, etc. brought in by an illegal alien or be a victim of one of the disproportionately high number of drunk, criminal illegal aliens. You might think that makes me a racist.
Illegals take more economically than they contribute:
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/
And I’m going to continue spreading such information including how the Ford and Carnegie Foundations found and fund groups like La Raza, Aztlan (MEChA), MALDEF, and LULAC.
http://www.theamericanresistan.....ate_1.html
http://www.theamericanresistan.....ate_2.html
http://www.theamericanresistan.....ate_3.html
The KBR / FEMA concentration camps are built on the lame excuse that we need to be ready for an influx of illegal aliens due to political unrest or natural disaster in their native countries. Don’t be gullible and think they might not be used on you.
In each interview with Jerome Corsi, Alex gives a disclaimer, usually at the beginning of the show, that he doesn’t agree with everything Corsi says, especially on Iran, and has often refuted Corsi in detail. As a http://www.prisonplanet.tv subscriber, I can only tell you Jerome was on August 4. I don’t catalog the dates Jerome was on Alex’s show. Assuming it truly concerns you whether Alex fully promotes Jerome and agrees with everything, you’ll have to go through the shows on http://www.gcnlive.com, Mr. “where is her,” “white populism” Winston.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
timbawulf – you’re sounding just like Malkin now. haha. You and your supposed “racist-torturer-fascist” malkin (that Alex apparently so loathes) HOLDS THE SAME OPINIONS……….as YOU and AJ:
Here’s Malkin, reading like just like, errr…..timbawulf……ROFL
MALKIN: “…the Minutemen volunteers, who have just completed a successful campaign to monitor and reduce illegal immigration on the southern border despite the most determined efforts by the ACLU and the open-borders lobby to sabotage and intimidate them.”
Their “nutty” agenda includes providing full funding for the Border Patrol, detention, and interior enforcement increases promised by President Bush when he signed the so-called intelligence reform law last December.
http://michellemalkin.com/2005.....minutemen/
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See – Alex and the rest of you protest about POLICE STATE – then call for BORDER PATROLS, CHECKS ON EMPLOYEES, DETENTION CENTRES FOR ILLEGALS etc etc etc.
You are in the same camp as MALKIN.
So, wanna tell me again why alex was justified in brownshirting MALKIN?
Was it because of her support for the racist front-group, the MINUTEMEN – which Alex himself supports?
Or did Alex brownshirt Malkin because of her dissing of the ACLU?
The (Anti) American Civil Liberties Union Goes Vigilante on the Minutemen – Michelle Malkin
Oh – but that can’t be the reason – Alex and prisonplanet diss the ACLU too!
Well – at least Malkin is CONSISTENT?
Maybe you can explain how your supposedly “fascist racist” Malkin is drawn to support the Minutemen?
And why you and Alex are – but only SHE is considered the racist?
September 1st, 2008 at 6:21 pm
timbawulf: “The KBR / FEMA concentration camps are built on the lame excuse that we need to be ready for an influx of illegal aliens due to political unrest or natural disaster in their native countries. Don’t be gullible and think they might not be used on you.”
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Right…….. So, concentration camps for “illegal immigrants” are OK?
But I thought Alex and his minions attacked Malkin because she wrote a book, justifying internment camps for japanese in ww2!
Because Malkin believes there’s a risk illegal immigrants might be terrorists – and hence need detention – Alex and co accuse her of fascism.
But timbawulf, alex and co believe there’s a risk illegal aliens will WORK and DRIVE CARS in USA, so they support detention…..checks on peoples’ status…..increased border patrols…..even a wall……
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How can you call for increased checks on immigrants without subjecting ALL americans to such a regime? It’s impossible.
How can you call for increased border “security”, without contributing to the “police state”?
Hey – why not chip the immigrants? Or maybe chip “genuine” americans, to make it easier to spot the “illegals”?
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You’re singing the same song as Malkin. And yet you denounce her as a supposed racist fascist, remember? Whilst clearing Alex of the same charges, remember?
Clearly, there’s something very wrong amongst all this.
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:55 am
It ALL goes back to the House of Rothschild. Our politicians are just their pawns. Most of you will know all of this, but some might not:
http://www.iamthewitness.com/D.....schild.htm
September 2nd, 2008 at 7:27 am
This is my last reply to you, Winston, because you seem to be a provocateur, agitator as you deliberately misconstrue my position, Alex’s position, claim Alex and I said or wrote things that only you have written. Regardless, you have probably had too much fluoride, aspartame, MSG, artificial colors, hydrogenated oils/trans-fatty acids, and probably have a deficiency of EFAs, Vitamin D, and magnesium as do most Americans.
No wonder you’re so cranky about imaginary bad guys.
Neither Alex nor I believe concentration camps are necessary for any reason. Internment camps = bad. Freedom = good.
Examples of lies:
1. Winston wrote “She escaped and Jones chased after her – `Where is her!’ he shouted……..whilst he did an impression of a witch-hunter.”
FACT: Winston has been asked twice to tell us the time index for this claim of his.
2. Winston wrote: “You’re singing the same song as Malkin. And yet you denounce her as a supposed racist fascist, remember? Whilst clearing Alex of the same charges, remember?”
FACT: Only Winston has accused someone, Alex Jones, of being a “racist fascist.” Also, Winston has tried to imply Alex is a mysogynist racist for yelling at a “small woman” who is not “white.”
3. Tending to agree in an interview with (not “promotion of”) Jesse Ventura, Alex Jones has said he has mixed feelings about erecting a border wall, but is more in favor of old-fashioned border enforcement.
You can’t honestly say otherwise, Winston, as you clearly do not listen to Alex’s show.
Google “sanctuary cities” to find how illegal aliens are given preferential treatment. Los Angeles is a sanctuary city where illegal aliens are 30% of the population, but commit 70% of the crime. They are also given preferential treatment by lending institutions. I would go on, but the inquisitive readers of Alex’s websites are very well-informed, unlike you, whining Winston. Adieu.
September 2nd, 2008 at 10:03 am
Winston,
You will never win against these people. They justify everything they say. They site the insignificant pieces of whatever it is you write. Then follow it up by playing to the public reading these comments. They are nothing more than little Alex Jones wanna-be’s.
September 2nd, 2008 at 10:33 am
“When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or he will cease to be honest.” – Mark Twain
I justify everything I say with too many links, you have none. If and when I make a mistake, I correct myself unlike those who I wll not name to avoid comparison. My redress for grievances are against tyrannical and fascist government which Mousolini called “corporatism.” Some use words they don’t understand. Governments are guilty of fascism, but those who falsely believe an activist can be guilty of fascism are those who are too cowardly to seek redress of grievance against their own government for any reason. They are the type of person who is not passionate enough to stand for anything except criticizing activists, never to be a part of real activism. Blogging isn’t real activism so look in the mirror and ask yourself how effective you are.
September 2nd, 2008 at 11:43 am
Never try to convince someone who hallucinates. It wastes your time and causes the sufferer more frustrating hallucinations.
“Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.” – Robert Heinlein
September 3rd, 2008 at 9:51 am
timbawulf: you seem to be a provocateur, agitator
— hmm. lol. Try addressing the content, not the form?
timbawulf: “Neither Alex nor I believe concentration camps are necessary for any reason.”
— Where has Alex written that? When did he say it? Time index?
And anyway – Alex has Mike Rivero as regular guest – and they’re pretty tight in all sorts of ways, aren’t they?
And yet. Rivero does believe in concentration camps, and torture – for hackers, whom he calls “domestic terrorists”. And Rivero promotes violent racists – even self-avowed nazis.
Rivero is a guest – Malkin is “hunted”. How come?
timabwulf said: “Winston wrote “She escaped and Jones chased after her – `Where is her!’ he shouted……..whilst he did an impression of a witch-hunter.”
FACT: Winston has been asked twice to tell us the time index for this claim of his.”
— LOL Because I haven’t given you a time index, it isn’t on the video I linked to? It’s on there – as it “Where is her?”. Watch the video.
timbawulf: “FACT: Only Winston has accused someone, Alex Jones, of being a “racist fascist.”
— FACT? Where did I “accuse AJ of being a ‘racist fascist’?
tw: “Winston has tried to imply Alex is a mysogynist racist for yelling at a “small woman” who is not “white.””
— Malkin’s being ‘not “white”‘ is not something I’m concerned about. But maybe Alex IS a racist? Maybe he IS a misogynist? Or maybe he is just encouraging misogyny and racial prejudice inadvertently?
Do you think AJ’s employment (?) of Mike Rivero, promoter of nazis, is evidence FOR or AGAINST AJ being a racist? And then there’s Big Jim Tucker……..who is cozy with Willis Carto…..
AJ has all sorts of connections to people and the ideas of the american far-right. I’m not making that up. Yet I’m supposed to just accept that he’s *not a racist*. Well, ok. But he works with people who are? Yet attacks Malkin? Odd.
timbawulf: “Tending to agree in an interview with (not “promotion of”) Jesse Ventura, Alex Jones has said he has mixed feelings about erecting a border wall, but is more in favor of old-fashioned border enforcement.”
— And?
What is “old-fashioned border enforcement”? It’s completely vacuous.
Whatever it is – it’s good, so long as it’s old?
And does he mean “old-fashioned” as in the days of slavery? How do you know? Time index? Quote?
As for border wall – is it worth asking what Alex’s views on Israeli wall are, or the Berlin Wall? And he only has “mixed feelings” about one in USA? lol.
Nevertheless – Alex loves his border, and his exclusive citizenship – there’s no doubt about that, is there? That’s a factor in extreme nationalism, isn’t it? Borders and citizenship are very important to extreme nationalists, right?
timbawulf: “illegal aliens are given preferential treatment. illegal aliens are 30% of the population, but commit 70% of the crime.”
— well, you think every “illegal” alien is a living crime anyway? Simply being alive in USA is a crime – if you’re “not allowed” to be there.
CRACKDOWN ON IT!
Very “progressive”.
See – where you *want* it – you are TOTALLY SUPPORTIVE of STATE POWER and VIOLENCE.
SEAL THE BORDERS! FOR LIBERTY! bwahahaha – you just don’t see it? Rubbish.
timbawulf: “the inquisitive readers of Alex’s websites are very well-informed”
— Of what?
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Hay, my kindred spirits, here’s a small part of my voluminous notes FYI:
You can click here (or right click then click “save as” to save the MP3):
http://64.72.126.49/Archives1/.....129062.mp3
and go to 10 minutes and 45 seconds (10:45) or if that doesn’t work, click here:
http://www.gcnlive.com/Archive....._2006.html
and go to the November 29, 2006 show, second hour, at 10 minutes and 45 seconds (10:45) you can hear Alex Jones say this:
“…in the declassified portions of Rex 84 that came out in 1986, the government planned to use immigration riots as a pretext to then, also, arrest political dissidents in America and put them in FEMA camps. And in my film, Police State II: the Takeover, I had a clip of the House-Senate bipartisan committee hearing where they openly talk about these camps and they say…”
Alex mentions many concentration camp and martial law-related terms of which you can do a websearch like with http://www.metacrawler.com, http://www.google.com, or narrow it down with http://www.searchinfowars.com.
At 17 minutes (17:00) Alex leads into an interview with the erudite Retired Major General Doug Rokke who comments on the topic of concentration camps and more. Please listen to this fascinating segment, truth-seekers.
God Bless,
- Timbawulf
September 4th, 2008 at 7:32 am
WOW! How cool is this video?! Aaron Dykes assembled footage of the provocateurs around the DNC and the Michelle Malkin encounter from multiple angles to avoid any doubt: There were provocateurs trying to frame Alex Jones.
Video: ‘Kill Michelle Malkin’ Hoax Exposed
by Kurt Nimmo, September 3, 2008
http://www.prisonplanet.com/vi.....posed.html
September 6th, 2008 at 3:24 am
P.R. vs. Info.
The winning side is the correct side.
January 23rd, 2009 at 4:41 pm
well calling the act of yelling at someone an act of violence is just silly
people who consider yelling violence have never experienced the real thing
also malkin should expect to get railed once in a while as anyone whom so badly wants to be in the spotlight must accept