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Neocons Call For U.S. To Launch War With Russia
Think Progress
Tuesday, Aug 12, 2008
Today the New York Times reports that Russia is escalating its war with Georgia, “moving tanks and troops through the separatist enclave of South Ossetia and advancing toward the city of Gori in central Georgia” and even bombing parts of Tibilisi, the Georgian captial.
Russia’s increasing aggression is putting a spark into American neoconservatives. Today on the Times op-ed page, one of their leaders, William Kristol, claims the U.S. must “defend” Georgia’s sovereignty as a reward for its participation in Iraq, while the conservative Washington Times is calling for “maximum pressure” on Russia:
Bill Kristol: [Georgia] has had the third-largest military presence — about 2,000 troops — fighting along with U.S. soldiers and marines in Iraq. For this reason alone, we owe Georgia a serious effort to defend its sovereignty. Surely we cannot simply stand by as an autocratic aggressor gobbles up part of — and perhaps destabilizes all of — a friendly democratic nation.
Washington Times: It is in America’s interest to exert maximum pressure on Russia to withdraw its troops and halt the interference in Georgian territory. This latest act shows the need for greater resolve in establishing a European security system that can be an effective check on Russian power
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Writing in the Washington Post today, Robert Kagan goes even further, suggesting that the Georgia-Russia conflict may be the start of World War III:
Do you recall the precise details of the Sudeten Crisis that led to Nazi Germany’s invasion of Czechoslovakia? Of course not, because that morally ambiguous dispute is rightly remembered as a minor part of a much bigger drama. […]
The mood is reminiscent of Germany after World War I, when Germans complained about the “shameful Versailles diktat” imposed on a prostrate Germany by the victorious powers and about the corrupt politicians who stabbed the nation in the back.
Like a good neoconservative, Kagan also links the Western response to the conflict and its wider policy towards Russia as “appeasement.”
Matthew Yglesias asks of Kagan’s World War II analogy: “If we launch a war with Russia — which would seem to be the point of busting out the analogy — then how are we going to find the time to launch wars with Iran and China?”
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August 12th, 2008 at 4:08 am
Rosh
Rosh is the seventh of the ten sons of Benjamin named in Genesis 46:21.
A person named Rosh also mentioned in Greek Bible: “Son of man, set your face toward Gog, the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal; and prophesy concerning him.”
August 12th, 2008 at 5:50 am
Nephtys – your comment has absolutetely nothing to do with this article. Go and preach somewhere else.
August 12th, 2008 at 5:55 am
brilliant. Obama and Brezsinski want to tangle with Russia, so Bush and Company beat him to it.
August 12th, 2008 at 6:10 am
When will we see Brzezinski, Kissinger, Rockefeller and all the neocons and others behind bars?
August 12th, 2008 at 6:28 am
Read between the lines. These Zionist Jews are, once again, trying to make America fight for Israel.
August 12th, 2008 at 6:30 am
They can’t really scare the Russians. Russia will do as it pleases the same way the US did.
August 12th, 2008 at 6:38 am
As I watch the news, I see our government officials and their talking heads denounce the “Russian Invasion” of Georgia, and speak to the unneccessary use of extreme force, but not one will liken it to our “shock and Awe” invasion of Iraq. Bush should have told Putin “do as I say and not as I do.” The Russians have a more legitimate reason to war with Georgia then we do warring with Iraq.
August 12th, 2008 at 6:50 am
… as an autocratic aggressor gobbles up part of — and perhaps destabilizes all of — a friendly democratic nation.
It seems to me that this neoconservative moron is talking about Bush and the US invasion and occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq here.
I propose a new law. When war breaks out, we will send the children and family of warmongers to the front first. Maybe they won’t enjoy maiming and killing so much when the victims are their close relatives.
Dulce bellum inexpertis – War is sweet to those who have never experienced it.
August 12th, 2008 at 7:19 am
Well then Bill Kristol, Douglas Feith, Richard Perle, Robert Kagan and their like can go fight the Russians themselves.
August 12th, 2008 at 7:58 am
The neocons who control this administration are bloodthirsty psycopaths, yearning for WW III.
August 12th, 2008 at 8:16 am
ALL the NEO-NAZICONS can go too hell they are the ones that need shot in the head and the corrupt politicians in washington need the same they are all garbage they make wars happen so when will the people rise up and make war with the government and take it back and replace all the sell-outs with honest people…….but i think the people of the usa love there corrupt leaders and believe everything the gov feeds them through the controlled propaganda news now sheep go back 2 sleep “the land of the free’ should be “the land of the brainwashed”
August 12th, 2008 at 9:05 am
Pot calls kettle black while Zbig calls Putin Hitler:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl.....12/georgia
Check out the insanity of it. Zbig is trying to convince us that Georgia, led by a NY lawyer, Jewish fascist, and who engaged in ethnic cleansing and genocide, is the victim of Russian aggression. It’s Orwellian, the linguistic nuances. For example, Georgia’s totalitarian president, after rounding up the opposition and charging them with espionage, says Russia is threatening “democracy.”
They think you are too stupid to figure it all out.
Bottom line: Let this, the overwhelming defeat of US-ally Georgia, be a warning to anyone anywhere who dons the uniform and takes orders from the fascist PNAC-junta, you will be defeated! YOU WILL BE DEFEATED! YOU WILL BURY YOUR FRIENDS! YOUR LEADERS WILL BE TRIED AS CRIMINALS! YOUR CHILDREN WILL NOT UNDERSTAND WHY YOU SIDED WITH THE FASCISTS! YOUR GRAVES WILL BE UNMARKED! YOU WILL BE REMEMBERED FOREVER AS THE AGENTS AND SOLDIERS OF THE GLOBALIST FASCIST AGENDA!
August 12th, 2008 at 9:25 am
Sounds like the population needs to rise up and lynch all the neocons.
August 12th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
i have 3 words for this world we live in.WHAT THE FUCK?
August 12th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Bill Kristol….there is a fucking (non)human you can trust…when are you US citizens going to stop all the madness your leaders throw upon you? When is enough enough? Are you just a bunch of strip-malled-out, iPoded-out valium soaked pussies or what? Step up you useless dung bags….YOU HAVE ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN. Y-O-U!!!!!!!!!! It is on your shoulders….Oh sorry…back to regular programming…”I’d like a case of Bud and some Doritos and “Hey…How about them “Cowboys”….”Change We Can Believe In”….giddy-up….Yeah pass the fucking buck you clowns…look at your posts!
“bill August 12,2008. Sounds like the population needs to rise up and lynch all the neocons” …wow hard hittin’s shit billy-bob.
Neo BagrationAugust 12,2008 “Well then Bill Kristol, Douglas Feith, Richard Perle, Robert Kagan and their like can go fight the Russians themselves.”Yeah you tell’em clown boy! You deserve to lose your nutsack!
ron heringhauser August 12,2008 “The neocons who control this administration are bloodthirsty psycopaths, yearning for WW III.” wah wah wah…you go ronnie girl…fuck me.
Randy August 12,2008. “When will we see Brzezinski, Kissinger, Rockefeller and all the neocons and others behind bars?” Duh…I don’t know Yogi…what do you think? Duh….somebody sumthin’ ok?
Fuck you you dumb fucks… FUCK YOU and the lazy ass horse you rode in on. You have created a legacy of pure hell for your kids and the rest of the US….YOU SUCK! Wimps…all of you.
Enjoy your internment camp bunks.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
“bill August 12,2008 Sounds like the population needs to rise up and lynch all the neocons.” oh Really? ya think? “Sounds like”????? brilliant stuff…absolutely fucking brilliant…what an idiot you are.