It seems odd to be using a webcast format for this, but I guess they’re expecting all the “internet conspiracy theorists” to tune in.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Aug. 18, 2008 CONTACT:
Ben Stein
(301) 975-3097
NIST to Release Report and Recommendations from Investigation of World
Trade Center Building 7
http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/calmed/wtc_081808.html
*** Agency Will Hold Public Webcast on August 21 ***
Gaithersburg, Md. — The Commerce Department’s National Institute of
Standards and Technology (NIST) will hold a media briefing and live
public webcast on Aug. 21, 2008, in Gaithersburg, Md., on the findings
and recommendations from its building and fire safety investigation of
the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 (WTC 7). WTC 7 was a
47-story building that fell nearly seven hours after the World Trade
Center (WTC) towers collapsed following the terrorist attacks of Sept.
11, 2001.
The NIST WTC 7 report will present the probable collapse sequence for
the building and will provide recommendations for improving building
and fire safety in other buildings similar to WTC 7. The draft WTC 7
investigation report released at the briefing will be open for public
comment through noon Eastern Daylight Time on Sept. 15, 2008.
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Shyam Sunder, director of the NIST Building and Fire Research
Laboratory and lead investigator for the federal building and fire
safety investigation of the World Trade Center disaster, will present
the report and answer questions from reporters at the briefing. The
public will be able to view the briefing through a live webcast that
will be accessible from NIST’s WTC Web site at http://wtc.nist.gov
What: A media briefing and public webcast on the findings and
recommendations of the National Institute of Standards and Technology
(NIST) report on the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 (WTC 7).
When: Thursday, Aug. 21, 2008 11 a.m. – Noon Eastern Daylight Time
Web Info : The WTC investigation Web site at http://wtc.nist.gov will
contain links to the webcast as well as accompanying materials such as
the full report, news release, and accompanying visuals at the time of
the briefing.
Reporters: Credentialed journalists who wish to register for the
media briefing should contact
Ben Stein, (301) 975-3097, ben.stein@nist.gov
August 19th, 2008 at 3:53 am
Credentialed Journalists? Looks like want a few softball questions that are prearranged to reach their conclusions. No report about the law suit and Judy Wood.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:26 am
Vito Corleone, appointed head of the government’s investigation into the existence of the Mafia in the United States, will be conducting a webcast on the findings obtained from a 7 year 100 million dollar investigation. Reporters will appear before the committee and its advisors to ask follow up questions. Its believed that this report will bring closure to the matter and provide an official response to the questionings of the independent leftist wing nut Stalinist journalists who are all tawdry conspiracists and should be incarcerated for not worshipping the image of the beast.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:38 am
Looks like house cleaning before Dubya heads to Paraguay with his billion dollar back door oil deals. First kill off Ivins and then put WTC7 to rest. Wash you hands clean. We all know this publicity stunt is no different than any other gross public deception. Same old bull shit spewing out of our government authorities. It’s funny how we all grew up thinking Arabs and the Soviets were the bad guys, the liars, the propaganda commie war machines. But in reality, the USA is the bad guys, the liars, the fraudsters, the wolf in sheep’s clothing. But 95% of Americans will never accept that truth. They will continue to live their bull shit lives based on lies and deception. It’s amazing talking to Americans who fall for these lies. Makes you want to smack them over their heads and say WTF is a matter with you?
August 19th, 2008 at 5:35 am
Any interest in this webcast or even this website is and will be tracked. Only surf behind proxy plus corporate PNAT.
August 19th, 2008 at 6:20 am
Don’t let the USSR and Islamic caliphate countries off the hook, because the USA used propaganda on its people! The USSR and its client states have killed tens of millions! The Islamic states have disproportionate wealth distribution and the lower class is ruled with an iron fist. Governments in general are evil creatures.
The founders of the USA did write some telling stuff regarding what happens when men organize into a government and why it is in the best interest of those who are governed to make sure their civil servants don’t get out of hand.
It’s all like WWF. Both sides are really working for the same goals.
August 19th, 2008 at 6:22 am
Correction in regard to Iraq – which was semi secular in nature. However, the brutality of its leadership is well documented. The people that suffered from the sanctions in the 90’s were the poor of that country, since the rich and leaders had access to government largess.
August 19th, 2008 at 6:27 am
NIST computer similation is a joke
http://wtc.nist.gov/media/gallery.htm#sim
August 19th, 2008 at 6:49 am
Mom… a kinder garden can do a better job.
where is the real images of that picture? why they never used the computers digital images filters? WTF?
It is to tell us how DUMMIE they or are we?
God help us all
August 19th, 2008 at 6:51 am
Alex Jones please call imediatly Richard Gate do the interview before is too late.
SOS Richard Gate…
August 19th, 2008 at 7:19 am
Dr. Steven Jones is assembling a team to confront them. We need video of this ALex!
Hopefully Richage Gage will attend. I hear Keven Ryan is.
August 19th, 2008 at 7:19 am
So they’ve had seven years to come up with some bullshit explanation for why WTC7 collapsed besides controlled demolitions. I’m sure they’ll see that WTC7 received massive damage from falling debris and along with the fires, that’s why it collapsed. WTC7 didn’t have massive damage and the fires weren’t even that big plus it was a steel building so the fires didn’t contribute to the collapse.
August 19th, 2008 at 7:43 am
NIST-’WE HAVE CONCLUDED THE COLLAPSE WAS DUE TO GLOBAL WARMMING.THE CO2 OUT PUT OF ALL THOSE NEWYORKERS WAS JUST TO GREAT.WE THINK DEPOPULATION OF 95 PERCENT IS IN ORDER.’ AL GORE-’UH UH I THINK 98 PERCENT SHOULD DO IT.’
August 19th, 2008 at 7:47 am
This will be more of the same bullshit, in my view.
August 19th, 2008 at 7:48 am
Oh Boy, I can’t wait to hear the BULLSHIT story on this one. Oh my God it’s going to be hysterical. Well who ever goes up there and tells the story must have some big balls, because everything that will be coming out of their mouth will be a LIE.
Well unless they actually come out and say “Yes we had bombs in the building and we did implode the building as per Owners request”, That’s about all I am willing to accept after 7 years of BULLSHT!!!!!!!
August 19th, 2008 at 8:12 am
WE KNOW HAPPENDED,KEEP YOUR ON THE BALL DO NOT BE DISTRACTED
August 19th, 2008 at 8:14 am
Hell, it’s not the NIST collapse explanation I’m interested in, it’s the recommendations they intend to release concerning other buildings of similar design. Imagine the owners of all those other buildings having to spend money repairing some imagined defect. Ha ha ha. FOTFLMAO. I doubt they’ll spend a nickel.
August 19th, 2008 at 8:23 am
I’m pretty sure NIST could give a shit about truthers. That opening statement is just more self-important rhetoric.
August 19th, 2008 at 8:23 am
How the hell do you properly conclude what happened when you never set foot on the actual crime scene?
This is like investigating a murder over the telelphone!
August 19th, 2008 at 8:27 am
mike;
You know what happened because you’re a scientist and have thoroughly investigated the collapse of WTC; or you know what happened because that’s what Alex Jones said on his radio show and you read about it on some websites?
Yes, keep your eye on the ball. That is how 9/11 profiteer Alex Jones brainwashes.
Keep…your…eye…on…the…ball.
August 19th, 2008 at 8:30 am
Quotation by David Lee:
“How the hell do you properly conclude what happened when you never set foot on the actual crime scene?”
EXACTLY MY MAN DAVID!!!! Now tell that to truthers and Alex Jones bots.
August 19th, 2008 at 8:35 am
Truthers, here’s your chance to argue live with REAL SCIENTISTS WHO UNDERSTAND SCIENTIFIC PRINICPLES and don’t just rely on the words of some stupid, fat balding guy with a radio show!!!!
Make us proud truthers. LMFAO!!
“Duh, what’s entropy, enthalpy and thermodynamic potential Mr. Scientist?”
LMFAO.
August 19th, 2008 at 8:39 am
Neocons are kinda up there with Michael Reagan…………who actually threatened to kill “truthers”………..speaking of guys on a radio show
Stalin and Fidel Castro would’ve approved
August 19th, 2008 at 8:41 am
Quotation by MARIA:
“Oh Boy, I can’t wait to hear the BULLSHIT story on this one. Oh my God it’s going to be hysterical.”
Well, MARIA, with your scientific background, understanding of scientific principles, and your exhaustive investigation of the collapse of WTC 7, I’m sure you’ll be at the head of the line to argue against NIST’s scientific claims at the webcast.
I mean, since you already KNOW it’s bullshit without EVER LEAVING YOUR KEYBOARD TO INVESTIGATE. That’s how you know a really, really good scientist—when they know what’s going on having never left their keyboard.
August 19th, 2008 at 8:48 am
“Oh and by the way, Francesco Cossiga past Italian president says it’s an inside job.”
OMG!!!!! OH SHIT!!!!! Why didn’t you say so before!?!? That’s all the proof I need. You are right. 9/11 WAS an inside job. Thanks Bri!
August 19th, 2008 at 8:52 am
Quotation by BRIAN PEPPERS:
“How many people have been sent to death row and the jury never visited the crime scene?”
How many of those juries were presented with evidence from the prosecution…and his team, to include forensic scientists…that was derived from an exhaustive investigation of the crime scene?
But really, Brian, I don’t know the answer to your question.
So, you tell me. How many people HAVE been sent to death row and the jury never visited the crime scene?
August 19th, 2008 at 8:57 am
Quotation by AJ:
“I’m sure they’ll see that WTC7 received massive damage from falling debris and along with the fires, that’s why it collapsed. WTC7 didn’t have massive damage and the fires weren’t even that big plus it was a steel building so the fires didn’t contribute to the collapse.”
Yes, AJ, you’ve stated the version given to you by Alex Jones. Now, do you think you can give a scientific analysis of the collapse, just so I can be sure you understand the scientific principles and are not just arguing from Alex Jones obtained personal incredulity. “Duh, buildings don’t collapse from fire…Uncle Alex said so. Duh.”
August 19th, 2008 at 9:07 am
This truth hater loves to say “scientific principal”…..I guess it makes him feel smart.
August 19th, 2008 at 9:13 am
Quote “REAL SCIENTISTS WHO UNDERSTAND SCIENTIFIC PRINICPLES”
Oh, Is that right? Like the real scientists they had on the history channel hit piece. James Meigs from Popular Mechanics.
Ooooh, I can’t wait for statements like, “the fire weakened the the steel, then each structural support column failed at EXACTLY the same time, so then the whole building came down at freefall speed”.
I’ll be at the head of the line ‘.’ ass****. Another little brainwashed lemming who believes everything he’s told by the “nanny state”.
August 19th, 2008 at 9:24 am
So why did it take 7 years to discover why WTC7 collapsed mr . ? They gave their explanation for why WTC1 and WTC2 collapsed years ago but they’re only just now figuring out why WTC7 collapsed? Seems like they just needed enough time to fabricate evidence and compile a phony story to fit with their version of events on 9/11.
August 19th, 2008 at 9:32 am
I’m sure you also believe that Hitler didn’t burn the Reichstag and Gulf of Tonkin wasn’t a staged event to expand the Vietnam War. Governments are inherently evil and they have been known to carry out false flags to get the people to go along with their plans. Everything that the U.S. is doing in the Middle East right now would not have been possible without 9/11. Stop believing the government propaganda and their henchmen scientists who will say whatever the government tells them to.
August 19th, 2008 at 9:56 am
Funny they are doing this the Thursday before the next 9/11 event. I could be wrong but wont it have been 2450 days since september 11th 2001 next monday? Completing the circle.
August 19th, 2008 at 9:56 am
the fella with the period for a name is hella-weak (thats hellaciously weak, hyphenated). only complete morons or, americans couldnt see that no steel framed, concrete core’d building has ever “collapsed” due to critical structural failure due to fire, untill sept 11 ‘01, when 3 fell within 12 hours. the only 3 times in history, same day, within hours of each other.
since you mention entropy and thermodynamic potential (wikipedia makes anyone sound educated when you copy and paste) im guessing your somewhere in the 11th grade. maybe you are taking a physics class instead of biology or chemistry. physics is a fascinating science, for instance, did you know that nothing when dropped out of a plane, at say, 1,368 feet, it would take you about 12+ seconds to hit the ground? that is what we in the physics game call zero resistance. all buildings on 9/11 took less than that to fall (straight) down. when have you ever seen a game of jenga where the tower didnt fall perfectly level into its own footprint? the sad reality is that even if all 3 building were “pulled” for public safety (2 1300+feet towers would obliterate the city if they actually fell any direction but asymetrically down). remeber guy with the period for a name, terror affects your ability to reason. dont be scared, we all die, some just go sooner because they are stupid
August 19th, 2008 at 10:05 am
Get this:
Alex Jones just said that he doesn\’t want to be the center of attention. So, in order not to be the center of attention, he hosts a syndicated radio show on which he fraudulently and baselessly claims the U.S. Government committed the 9/11 attacks.
Yeah, Alex, you\’re really trying to avoid being the center of attention. LMAO! Are truthers really still being duped by this guy? Are they really that brainwashed?
August 19th, 2008 at 10:44 am
Quotation by David Lee: How the hell do you properly conclude what happened when you never set foot on the actual crime scene?”
Quotation by ?
EXACTLY MY MAN DAVID!!!! Now tell that to truthers and Alex Jones bots.
7 years after the fact, 1 sentence in the 911 ommissions report, actual video from multiple news agencies from multiple angles showing limited fires and damage, unprecidented in history( all 3 towers) I am not a scientist and wonder how they have concluded this new investigation ,having already destroyed all the evidence in the crime of the century.
So my questions to anonymous is why didnt they do a proper investigation immediatly. did the victims and families of 911 not deserve this. Do you think the NIST shuold have set foot and even possibly saved some of the evidence in a timely matter. do you think this is all just normal and business as usually ? will you answer ALL THE ??
August 19th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Oh, that\’s rich. Alex Jones railing at somebody for slander. That\’s the apex of irony and hypocrisy. Of course, the only reason Alex Jones isn\’t sued for slander hourly is that…for some reason, hmmmmm…he never attaches names to his fraudulent claims.
Let me say that again…
ALEX JONES NEVER ATTACHES NAMES TO HIS FRAUDULENT CLAIMS.
By the way, did you hear his self-serving, arrogant, self-righteous, pretentious rant about people bothering him. Jesus Christ, Alex. Step off the pedestal for a while.
August 19th, 2008 at 11:04 am
HEY …….!!!!
You keep mumbling science, scientist, scientific BS.
1. These are “GOVERNMENT SCIENTISTS” who will lie.
2. Current Gov’t has done nothing but lie, lie, lie.
3. It doesn’t take a scientist to figure out what caused WTC 7 to fall in its own footprint at freefall speed(NO RESISTANCE).
IT WAS A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION. WATCH THE F’ING VIDEO. THINK FOR YOURSELF.
YOU MORON
August 19th, 2008 at 11:26 am
\”3. It doesn’t take a scientist to figure out what caused WTC 7 to fall in its own footprint at freefall speed(NO RESISTANCE).\”
This is a quite an ignorant statement…even for a truther.
August 19th, 2008 at 11:49 am
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You are hopeless. Must be a gov’t op.
August 19th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Ok, you twoofers got me. I was only playing with you guys. Of course 9/11 was an inside job. Only an imbecile would think otherwise.
August 19th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Let the sheep be slaughtered. All minions who are not part of the ruling class will be relegated to serfdom. That includes all the morons who continue to support the official lie.
August 19th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
OOOOOOOOOOh, Lordy. Canadians, and Americans….why do you still hold on to the antiquated idea that you’re free. You’re NOT!! We haven’t been for a VERY LONG TIME. When I went through the Justice? system for driving without a license (11 times) I found out a lot of things that you can’t KNOW unless it happens to you. If you’re wondering why I would drive without a license, it’s a personal conviction (and a public one now) that if you can have children without a marriage license, you ought to be able to drive without a license. And I did so for 25 years. It was on the 11th stop and fining that the RCMP officer told me I would have to explain to a Judge why I continued to drive without a valid license. The rest of the story is moot.
Until we realize, I mean really take to heart the fact that these Elites ARE our MASTERS and they OWN us, we will never get the right mind set to seriously DO something about ending our slavery. We still think we’re free and we keep drawing lines in the sand and say THIS far and no farther. That line is now a washboard pattern and we’re still drawing with our sticks. Pick up a REAL BIG stick and use it for something other than drawing stick figures on the beach.
Our slavery is not coming sometime in the future, we already are slaves. Christ, wake up. Even if your resistance is a guerrilla action hidden from the public eyes, for the love of God DO SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST REHASHING STORIES OF YET THE NEXT OUTRAGE!!! That’s what I’m doing. I’m a New World Guerrilla.
August 19th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
that’s funny. anyone who disagrees is always a “government op.” That must be why the USA is broken. The government spends all your money on gov ops on these sites
August 19th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
mythicShadow;
If you got caught driving without a license 11 times, you deserve a lot of jail time. The fact that it took you 11 times to go to court is a very argument against what you are arguing. People can kill with their cars if they don\’t know how to operate them properly. That is why you need a license…a certificate that says you have been properly trained. If you don\’t like the idea of licensing for drivers, go found your own country where citizens injur kill each other constantly because they don\’t know how to operate a motor vehicle.
What\’s next? Flying a plane without a pilot\’s license? Operating on a patient without medical licensing?
Yeah, the system is so tyrranical, it took you 11 times to be finally punished for driving without a license. A relatively major offense.
August 19th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
lol i cannot wait to see what lies they come up with. why don’t they take questions from people who know something about why buildings should and shouldn’t collapse hehe
August 19th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Oh, now isn’t this a special little tidbit of trash!…I’m sure we won’t hear the truth, because the truth would go against all that they are doing with their grand master plan to dominate the world…Just today I went to my daughters school and forbid them to let her in R.O.T.C…The still ignorant masses may not see the reasoning behind this, but believe me, your children are being groomed in school for the military, yet more like “drones” in R.O.T.C…The literature I read in there said it was exactly that, “R.O.T.C. is readying them for the military”…Wake up and smell the “Bullshit”! ..They aren’t about to tell you those buildings were rigged in advance by your Government…I wish I had the icon to roll my eyes right now..
August 19th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Quotation by ted:
\”that’s funny. anyone who disagrees is always a “government op.\”
Isn\’t that a very scary mentality? Believe Alex Jones or you\’re a government operative killing and enslaving people. Man, Alex has these clowns utterly brainwashed. And THEY talk about an Orwellian 1984! There is no hope for them. You can only let them linger at their keyboards and skulk on message boards while continuing to work for corporate America for meager income and giving a lot of that meager income to the very institution that\’s trying to kill or enslave them.
August 19th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Recommendation to the building fire and safety people; DO NOT USE EXPLOSIVES NEXT TIME….
August 19th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
comrade fegel, I was being a smart ass. Your point was the same point I was making. Anytime anyone on this forum disagrees with a comment, they come back with “you must be a government op.” I hope I clarified that.
August 19th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
LOL! I can\’t wait to hear the clueless, uneducated truthers claim they are lies before even hearing the presentation.
Oh wait, that\’s happening right now.
August 19th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
comrade, specifically, it was in response to some anonymous posting.
August 19th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Quotation by Paula:
\”why don’t they take questions from people who know something about why buildings should and shouldn’t collapse hehe\”
Because that would eliminate the entire truth movement from participation.
August 19th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
ted;
I was agreeing with you. I\’m not talking about YOUR mentality, I\’m talking about THEIR mentality…essentially what you described; I just expounded a bit.
August 19th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Quotation by Kerstin:
\”They aren’t about to tell you those buildings were rigged in advance by your Government\”
Of course not, when they have no SCIENTIFIC proof.
Without a military, this country would not exist for very long.
I feel very sad for your daughter that she has such a brainwashed bimbo for a mother. Unlucky sperm club for her.
It scares me that Alex Jones and his ilk (you, et. al.) have children whom you are brainwashing just like you\’ve been brainwashed. Sheep begetting sheep. Fortunately, you are a small part of society. A small cancer.
August 19th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Comrade………You mean like Danny Jawenko? Europes dmolition expert…Yeah he said Controlled demolition.
Shill?…….No you’re just a fool.
August 19th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Comrade………You mean like Danny Jawenko? Europes demolition expert…Yeah he said Controlled demolition.
Shill?…….No you’re just a fool.
August 19th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Let me give truthers and Alex Jones bots a scenario and you guys fill in the blanks if you can.
Act: A local retailer sold you faulty goods and won\’t give you a refund.
Your response: You go on a message board to discuss the situation and complain about it while filing a petition with appropriate authorities to get your money back. Sounds reasonable.
Act: Your government KILLED 3000 OF ITS OWN CITIZENS and is now TRYING TO KILL AND/OR ENSLAVE YOU!!!!!!
Your soloution: ????
August 19th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Oh, Reaper, you look like an ass.
Yes, Jowenko did say…after viewing it on a video screen…that WTC7 looked like a demolition. He also said WTC 1 and 2 WERE NOT a controlled demolition. Did you hear me? DANNY JOWENKO SAID WTC 1 AND 2 WERE NOT (WERE NOT!!) A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.
Anyway, that is one scientist out of millions of others…thousands of others who are specifically structural and engineering and demolitions qualified…to make that claim, and that after only having viewed it on video. You idiots think science can be proven by a YouTube.
So, professor Reaper, if Jowenko said WTC7 ws a controlled demolition and you believe him; do you also believe him when he says WTC 1 and 2 WERE NOT a controlled demolition?
What egg you must have on your face. Your star witness disagrees with you on a major issue.
August 19th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Mythic Shadow: Good comment:
Comrade Fagel: I think you missed MS’ point. Her reistance is on concience, not on driving ability.
As to WTC7: About 2 years ago, NIST announced they had pictures of South Side Central damage to support their preliminary theory. Through a FOIA request, I asked for a link to see those pictures. NIST refused my request and said I could only see them withe the final report. Apparently the final is going to happen. All people: if NIST does not show these pictures then they lied to us again, and have no evidence for their building damage theory. Be aware FEMA gave no mention to South Side Damage. NIST is theorizing a huge 60 foot wide x 25 foot x 15 stories high gash in the building. Everyone: demand proof of this gash. If they cannot supply the evidence – denounce them as fraudulent and tell others until there is such a storm we have liberty or death.
August 19th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Let us analyze this logically, Reaper:
If Jowenko thinks WTC 7 was a controlled demolition and he is never wrong, then, when he says WTC 1 and 2 were not a controlled demolition…and he is never wrong, remember…then what have we?
If Jowenko is never wrong, then the U.S. Government destroyed WTC 7 itself, but not WTC 1 and 2. Why, then, is the key question.
Reaper, why do you think the U.S. government DID NOT destroy WTC 1 and 2 when they so readily destroyed WTC 7?
When answering this, remeber, Jowenko is NEVER wrong.
August 19th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
And those at the NIST bnriefing (spewing government lies), will be added to the official “American Traitor List”, which will used at a later date…….
Its amazing on how many traitors we have in the United States of America.
Coffeelover,,,
August 19th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
,
August 19,2008 Let us analyze this logically, Reaper:
If Jowenko thinks WTC 7…
=================================================================Guy you’re a plant you are the Lucifer soldier and you know what you’ll going get? to make a false statment about the science?
A big Sht
EVIL OF ALL TIES, TRIES AND TIMES
YOU’LL FALL IN FREE FALL SPEED AND ARE GOING TO HELL IN VACUUM SPEED.
THE ANSEWR IS IN MY NAME
GOD MEANS IT
August 19th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
http://stoplying.ca/articles/07/sept/090307dvd.php
SPOT TO STOP THE LIERS EDUCADE YOURSELF
August 19th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
To the anonymous coward who keeps writing in: You’ve taken Jowenko’s words out of context. He was shown towers one and two falling and said it looks like a collapse then was shown WTC 7, UNAWARE that it was a WTC tower and said it was obviously controlled demolition. When told that it WTC7 and took place on 911 then his entire attitude changed and he said the demolition work was very good then implying that it was very professional. He is on record here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExUTAbUCYL0
stating that WTC7 did NOT come down due to fire and that his belief has NOT changed. A final note, why don’t you put your name out there? Surely not a coward? Your type usually is, along with gullible. I suppose you so-called “debunkers” are still waiting for WMD to be found and some truth in the Bush Administration. Keep looking, maybe you’ll find them under bigfoot’s body.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Comrade Fagel:
You spent a lot of time defending the issuance of a driver’s license because it weeds out people who don’t know how to drive. Then why do you have to keep renewing it…because with all that extra practice each year you might FORGET how to drive? And if your argument for this money grab were true then why do you not have to prove you can raise children and know how to treat a spouse when you get a Marriage License? Your argument does not hold water. A driver’s license is a bit of mobile I.D. that allows the government the ability to track you around the world. Driving without a license in Canada is NOT a serious offense. It is punished with a $100.00 dollar fine. Your argument that the license is issued to ensure that drivers know how to drive is bullshit, and it’s time you knew it, you fucking FASCIST.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.
-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823
August 19th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
http://911research.wtc7.net/glossary.html
Science Applications International: contractor for the DOD and Homeland Security Department, and provider of the largest contingent of non-governmental investigators to NIST’s WTC investigation, SAIC develops energetic materials for the the military. SAIC was contracted to investigate the Oklahoma City bombing, and evaluated the World Trade Centerfor terrorism risks in 1986.
http://www.historycommons.org/.....estigation
Following the release of the Office of Special Planning’s (OSP) report, which called the WTC a “most attractive terrorist target” (see November 1985), the New York Port Authority, which owns the center, seeks a second opinion on the OSP’s recommendations. At a cost of approximately $100,000, it hires the Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) to review the general security of the WTC. SAIC states in its report that the attractiveness of the WTC’s public areas to terrorists is “very high.” Like the OSP, SAIC pays particular attention to the underground levels of the center and describes a possible attack scenario much like what occurs in the 1993 bombing. [Caram, 2001, pp. 105-106; New York County Supreme Court, 1/20/2004]
Entity Tags: World Trade Center, Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC), New York Port Authority
Timeline Tags: Complete 911 Timeline
Category Tags: WTC Investigation
Love “Light” and Energy
_Don
http://www.theominousparallels.blogspot.com/
PS: (1) of many connecting dots!
August 19th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
This is likely to be administered for a course of years and then end in despotism … when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other
August 19th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Thomas Jefferson’s Notes on Virginia
I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature….. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make half the world fools and half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the world.
August 19th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Isaiah 28:15
Because you have said, “We have made a covenant with death, And with Sheol we have made a pact. The overwhelming scourge will not reach us when it passes by, For we have made falsehood our refuge and we have concealed ourselves with deception.”
August 19th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Ok, it’s my fault. Danny Jawenko was referring to controlled demolition defined as a bottom up implosion which is exactly the case for WTC7. But for WTC1&2, it would look entirely suspicious if the buildings collapsed from the bottom up, so they were not controlled demolition as defined by traditional techniques. However, the buildings were destroyed in a controlled manner, but just not done in the traditional way. It’s quite possible that the floors were sprayed with nano-thermite and detonated floor by floor in a timed sequence thus pulverizing the concrete and steel structures on the way down. Of course, just like JFK, the official fairly tale will continue to be spouted for decades to come.
August 19th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
LOL! I can’t wait to hear the clueless, uneducated debunkers claim the WTC7 collapsed due to fires and falling debris before the official report comes out…
Oh wait, that’s happening right now.
August 19th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
\”LOL! I can’t wait to hear the clueless, uneducated debunkers claim the WTC7 collapsed due to fires and falling debris before the official report comes out…\”
You won\’t see me claiming anything. You know why? Because I\’M NOT A SCIENTIST and I DIDN\’T INVESTIGATE THE COLLAPSE OF WTC7.
But I\’m glad to see we agree how stupid these idiots are when they judge the NIST report, especially before it\’s even released, when THEY ARE NOT SCIENTISTS and THEY DIDN\’T INVESTIGATE THE COLLAPSE OF WTC 7.
Of course, if YOU ARE A SCIENTIST and YOU DID INVESTIGATE THE COLLAPSE OF WTC 7, please feel free to offer your expert analysis herein. Don\’t spare the heavy stuff, I can take it.
August 19th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Half a decade in the making…under any other circumstances involving any other cast of characters than Bush & friends…one would expect a pretty good lie…With them in charge, the only thing I am wondering about is if they will have canned laughter for the webcast.
August 19th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
crisis, what crisis..
Are we too stupid to know bullshit anymore?
the sky is falling, send us a few billion and we will fix it…
Stop being stupid-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V5iCUBEUx4
God bless America(even the stupid ones)
GS
August 19th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
MythicShadow, quit being stupid, purposefully maybe. Marrying does not kill you. If you mistreat your children, they are rightfully taken away. Automobiles KILL people you fucking retard. It is a two ton weapon travelling 65+ MPH. That is why they require knowledge and proficiency on how to drive. You don\’t renew it every year in the U.S., only periodically. Guess where most of that money goes…that\’s right, mostly to build and maintain roads for YOU to drive on.
So then, why require a pilot to get a license? Why require a doctor to get a license to practice medicine?
August 19th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
I just love it when stupid people (Giant Shadows) call OTHERS stupid.
August 19th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
And still you guys sit at your keyboards and do nothing.
Not only do you do nothing, you aid the enemy. You work for corporate America and PAY them, via taxes, to kill and/or enslave you.
You are as complicit as they.
August 20th, 2008 at 10:11 am
I wonder if their recommendations will include NOT prewiring buildings for implosion/demolition immediately prior to unanticipated terror events? [Does that double-speak sound Hegelian enough for the New World Order's taste?]
August 20th, 2008 at 10:28 am
stop yanking your weiners, truth seekers. Perhaps one reason no steel frame building has ever collapsed from fire blah blah etc… could it have something to do with the Port Authority’s low standards of construction? Show me where else on earth that a building that tall was built with a tube design like it was. Why would most load bearing beams be concentrated in the center. The truthers seem to think that is nor important. Why isn’t it? As far as wtc7 goes, didn’t you see the major debris exiting the building right after impact? Do you think a jet engine flying through the air and crashing through the roof is also unimportant?
August 20th, 2008 at 10:33 am
, nanothermite? what the hell are you on?
August 20th, 2008 at 11:16 am
So a jet engine, along with other debris, is supposed to take down a 47 story building? Let’s see what a whole plane does to the pentagon
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi.....h_site.jpg
Hmmm, I bet you’ll have an answer for how the 2 tonne jet engine disintegrated with the rest of the plane aswell?
August 20th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
DO NOT WATCH – YOU WILL BE TRACED AND REGISTERED!!!
August 20th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
i find it funny how (in typical government political fashion) people come on here and instead of posting something in the comments that is a legitimate argument, they try to bash Alex Jones and discredit him in anyway they can. give it a rest. move on. go post stupid blogs on your high school news boards.
August 20th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
How about BBC predictions 30 minutes before the collapse? Are they bit Nostradamus? or NIST blend iron with fire?
Are NIST alchemistic?
You’ll burn hardly for what you’ve done EVIL
August 20th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Beyond the no imaginary:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media…..ato203.jpg
The Iron Monument of NATO – OTAN in Brussels reminds the Evil monster of the Freemasonry google it “chilling”
August 20th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Anyone remember the 1906 Earthquake in San Francisco. The 7.8 to 7.9 shaking that lasted somewhere for a minute and a half. The fires. Yet the original San Francisco City Hall structure withstood all that. In 2006 there was the 100 year anniversary and The Examiner had a full front page lay-out showing an aerial view of 1906 San Francisco and there was Old City Hall up and standing, its core structure.
How about the Mexico City earthquake that shook for something like four minutes at somewhere around 7 on the scale as I recall. Many of those office buildings ‘pancaked’ but they did not necessarily have full free-fall collapse like wtc 7.
Conclusion: Technology of Mexican office building construction was vastly superior to American technology in the 1970’s. American construction of large stone buildings in the mid1800’s also structurally stronger and superior to the 70’s steel office building construction in Manhattan.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:14 am
Did Planes Really Crash Into the WTC Towers on 911?
Contrary to NIST & the US Government, there is overwhelming evidence to conclude that the planes seen on TV were the result of SFX special effects (TV fakery).
Many try to suppress this obvious fact, but to exclude other theories out of hand w/o examination is not only disingenuous, it’s simply denial (a defence mechanism) and only results in a misinformed, skewed opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0XrU70Lc-U
There were no planes entering the WTC Towers on 911. Perhaps all the related films about 911 produced before and since were made to condition the public into acceptance of the official “planes” fantasy. Any discussion of planes on 911, passengers, hijackers, etc. all continue to help keep the fantasy alive.
Believing the government’s fairytale of planes colliding with the Towers is the main problem w/ fully understanding 911. The media was broadcasting fake, manipulated images of planes. Superimposing a plane on 911 was done w/ Wescam technology; it provided a single “live” feed from which all the TV networks broadcast. Other videos & images started to appear in the days, weeks & months following 911. All of them have anomalies & impossibilities which can only be explained by excluding planes.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xpUKwpwSRwc
Real planes would have been a potential liability for the perps on 911. It was easier to control the outcome of the event with much less risk by using the media to broadcast fake imagery. Real jets might miss their targets, get shot down, suffer pilot or computer errors, destroy or prematurely detonate any explosives, passengers could have overtaken the hijackers, and/or the plane might not inflict enough perceived damage to make a collapse believable.
A single fact which cannot be refuted is that a hollow aluminum plane (especially fragile wings) cannot slice through steel beams and concrete without any damage to the plane. News footage showing an airliner gliding into a Tower without any resistance is a cartoon. Aluminum planes are not built for impact and crumple immediately upon contact with solid objects; even a small bird can rip through a jet’s wing.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MCVwuf_AMFs
Furthermore, a large speeding jet’s vortex trails behind it creating a highly active atmosphere which follows in its path. Had a real plane impacted a WTC Tower, real film footage would have recorded the airliner’s vortex interacting with and violently dissipating the smoke from the alleged crash and the adjacent North Tower. No vortex literally means no planes on 911 (TV fakery).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlj1mVD2-HM
During the South Tower “impact”, fake TV footage shows a WTC Tower sealing itself around the plane during the alleged penetration. Still another too incredible to believe anomaly is the width of the plane’s purported gash didn’t match the width of a Boeing 757’s wing span. Another widely publicized video shot by Scott Myers shows the forward fuselage of the “jet” exiting the South Tower, though other shots later reveal no exit hole.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NCLL6h6-vvc
To consider the media footage showing a plane slicing thru steel and concrete as reality is ludicrous. There were no planes; only spoofed images, manipulated witnesses and falsified evidence. America please wake up; the media was a complicit partner that was in on the crime from the beginning. In fact, the TV psyop 911 couldn’t have been pulled off without the mass media’s assistance.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eoxaU16MntM
Actually “no planes on 911″ is the only explanation that makes any sense. There are far too many disturbing questions left unanswered which only TV fakery can address.
Besides all the other impossibilities mentioned, why are there several “hijackers” still alive; some are even suing the US government to recover their reputation and stolen identity.
Why have so many of the purported plane “victims” not been listed in the Social Security Death Index? …and their families not claimed their death benefits.
Why are there missing passenger lists and zero so-called Middle Eastern hijacker names on the flight manifest?
Why in the entire history of aviation has a plane never disappeared from a crash – yet on 911, four of them did in a single day? All plane parts are numbered; not one plane part from 911 has been identified by its number.
How could supposedly inexperienced “pilots” who couldn’t even fly a Cessna…
* threaten & subdue everyone on board a large airliner
* break into the locked cockpits w/ their hands
* kill all the ex-military pilots and copilots
…then navigate a large Boeing jetliner above the clouds all over several states without airport tower assistance, with nav systems & radios turned off, and fly with pinpoint accuracy into a building that they couldn’t even see?
It’s common knowledge amongst pilots that a Boeing 757 cannot fly at 500+ MPH at sea level – the air is too thick. That’s an airliner’s cruising speed attained at high 30,000+ ft. altitudes.
You can call Boeing; even they admit that – and they have been recorded in phone conversations recently saying so.
When an airliner is close to the ground it’s either taking off or landing. If forced to throttle to cruising speed at low altitude, it would break apart in mid-air.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=x2upl977dsY
Exposing “no planes on 911″ is probably the most important story to people beyond chemtrails, depleted uranium poisoning and nanotech genocide.
Americans are TV hypnotized, drugged up, dumbed down and so utterly dependent that in general they are incapable of critical thought and are disinterested in discovering how the media is adversely affecting their lives.
No planes on 911 and deception by the media is the Holy Grail of 911. It marks the beginning of an Orwellian double-speak mind-set which is now accepted as normal by the populace.
No-planes on 911 is highly important as it exposes the real perps behind this mass murder and offers justice to the thousands of people killed that day.
Without the covert deception by the media in collusion with the enemy in control of America’s military intelligence, 911 could not have happened.
The media was directly involved in 911 and together with a criminal government has helped diminish Americans’ freedoms and launch unending wars against innocent nations.
Don’t even consider making another comment on 911 till you have watched the “September Clues” video series:
http://www.livevideo.com/video.....part1.aspx
With so much evidence pointing to collusion between the military industrial complex, the US government and especially the media, very few have sought relief in the court systems, or via conventional mass media. Morgan Reynolds has filed numerous suits in federal court to no avail. His latest attempt and subsequent appeal were both summarily squashed before having even been properly heard. You can read the details on his website.
http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911
If one seeks only that evidence which fits the official explanation, then that is what you will find. That’s not science, it’s not objective thinking, it’s not even good common sense.
It is impossible in the real world for a plane to behave in such manner as per the official account. So long as you continue to deny that one simple concept you will be forever lost in endless pursuit of an answer that will never come.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/.....ng_videos/
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August 21st, 2008 at 1:18 am
Fact check, 1985 Mexico City quake was 7.8 to 8.1 on the Richter scale and the USGS counted 50 seconds for its duration. There were some number of buildings reduced to Rubble, and then there were those that were only partially collapsed and some others with only minor damage, all large office buildings.
http://libraryphoto.cr.usgs.go.....ake%7C1985
WTC 7 suffered a brief quake around magnitude 2 for some hours prior to free-fall
collapse. So the debris and fires had to of done it. Right, sure, if the thing was built out of cardboard and recycled aluminum coke cans then you could see that possibility. A lot of that debris was thick cloudy stinky smelly pulverized dust and it sure made a big mess, though it seems hard to see how it can account for toppling that building all at once. Buildings are tough. Look at those in Mexico City. In SF 1906 a lot of those did not free-fall either. Actually they did not free-fall at all for that matter.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:31 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ction.html
August 21st, 2008 at 8:13 am
i tried to watch the webcast…it loaded to 33% then wouldn’t continue…the slides and captions worked…
August 21st, 2008 at 9:58 am
We (therealnewsradio.com) were able to ask the very first question during the Q&A…. So you are saying fire caused every structural beam in the building to fail simultaneously and then cause the building to fall at free-fall speed, and of course the response was (drum-roll) yes. We recorded it, and hopefully we will post it on our website tonight. Please help us on our quest to bring real news to the public, the truth, unlike mainstream/whore media. Thank you
August 21st, 2008 at 10:03 am
Alex you need speak up about this NIST joke
August 21st, 2008 at 10:08 am
Well, after watching the NIST conference I am amazed that they would use the same old tactic of “this is my story and I’m sticking to it”.
See how he avoided the info wars reporters comments and the volume was turned down so as not to hear the question?
Then he wanted to just move on.
He just regurgitated what he already said. It’s basically Fire and office furniture that caused it to fall!
Then he added a little caviat of they were storing Deisel fuel in WTC7. Why on earth would deisel fuel be stored there?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Here is something to come please do not ASK QUESTIONS
WELCOME BACK TO THE DARK AGES
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/….._0821.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNl964zavcA
August 21st, 2008 at 3:13 pm
NEWS FLASH OMG!!! THEY SOLVED THE MYSTERY OF BUILDING 7 !!!
By DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer 23 minutes ago
GAITHERSBURG, Md. – Federal investigators said Thursday they have solved a mystery of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks: the collapse of World Trade Center building 7, a source of long-running conspiracy theories.
The 47-story trapezoid-shaped building sat north of the World Trade Center towers, across Vesey Street in lower Manhattan in New York. On Sept. 11, it was set on fire by falling debris from the burning towers, but skeptics long have argued that fire and debris alone should not have brought down such a big steel-and-concrete structure.
Scientists with the National Institute of Standards and Technology say their three-year investigation of the collapse determined the demise of WTC 7 was actually the first time in the world a fire caused the total failure of a modern skyscraper.
“The reason for the collapse of World Trade Center 7 is no longer a mystery,” said Dr. Shyam Sunder, the lead investigator on the NIST team.
Investigators also concluded that the collapse of the nearby towers broke the city water main, leaving the sprinkler system in the bottom half of the building without water.
The building has been the subject of a wide range of conspiracy theories for the last seven years, partly because the collapse occurred about seven hours after the twin towers came down. That fueled suspicion that someone intentionally blew up the building in a controlled demolition.
Critics like Mike Berger of the group 9/11 Truth said he wasn’t buying the government’s explanation.
“Their explanation simply isn’t sufficient. We’re being lied to,” he said, arguing that there is other evidence suggesting explosives were used on the building.
Sunder said his team investigated the possibility that an explosion inside the building brought it down, but found there was no large boom or other noise that would have occurred with such a detonation. Investigators also created a giant computer model of the collapse, based partly on news footage from CBS News, that they say shows that internal column failure brought down the building.
Investigators also ruled out the possibility that the collapse was caused by fires from a substantial amount of diesel fuel that was stored in the building, most of it for generators for the city’s emergency operations command center.
The 77-page report concluded that the fatal blow to the building came when the 13th floor collapsed, weakening a critical steel support column that led to catastrophic failure.
“When this critical column buckled due to lack of floor supports, it was the first domino in the chain,” said Sunder.
The NIST investigators issued more than a dozen building recommendations as a result of their inquiry, most of which repeat earlier recommendations from their investigation into the collapse of the two large towers.
In both instances, investigators concluded that extreme heat caused some steel beams to lose strength, causing further failures throughout the buildings until the entire structure succumbed.
The recommendations include building skyscrapers with stronger connections and framing systems to resist the effects of thermal expansion, and structural systems designed to prevent damage to one part of a building from spreading to other parts.
No one was killed in the collapse of building 7 because it had been fully evacuated. A new, slightly taller World Trade Center 7 opened in 2006.
A spokesman for the leaseholder of the World Trade Center, developer Larry Silverstein, praised the government’s work.
“Hopefully this thorough report puts to rest the various 9/11 conspiracy theories, which dishonor the men and women who lost their lives on that terrible day,” said Silverstein spokesman Dara McQuillan.
In discussing the findings, the investigator Sunder acknowledged that some may still not be convinced, but insisted the science behind their findings is “incredibly conclusive.”
“The public should really recognize the science is really behind what we have said,” he said, adding: “The obvious stares you in the face.”
Link-> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....s_collapse
SO AGAIN WHY DID SILVERSTEIN SAY HE ORDER THE BUILDING TO BE PULLED?
August 21st, 2008 at 5:24 pm
I can’t believe these pricks. Took them seven years to figure up some lie.
August 21st, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Building 5 had much more damage and yet stood standing until permits allowed for its final dismantling.
BUILDING 5 is the KEY!!!
Building 5 was CLOSER and MORE DAMAGED, YET STOOD STANDING FOR A YEAR AFTER THE ATTACKS.
Fuck off shills.