“If someone wants to believe that their God is going to save them, what gives another person the right to tell them to shut up about it?? I really don’t understand.

You are right InherentGood. And Mike in Michigan, I apologize for trying to disparage your beliefs…its not my, nor anyone else for that matter, place to do so.

But I did so because I have experienced how faith in Jesus or God can waste away opportunity and change and self-reliance a person could have received, if only their faith in God was a little less restrictive.

As all of you surely know, people, across the world, in different points in time, have allowed themselves to be slaughtered by thugs, all because these people refused to fight or defend themselves in the hope and belief that Jesus would save them.

And that is why I rally against the use of faith in times like these. I hate to believe it, and sometimes I tell myself that it couldn’t happen, but there is a very good chance that our military could turn on us, and they could follow orders to shoot to kill, or gather us up, if there is social unrest, and herd us into detainment camps in order to “protect us.”

And praying, in my personal experience, ain’t gonna help. Fighting back, however futile it may be, is my only faith.

Post 123 writes;

“We are trying to find solutions here and we won’t get anywhere if we spend our time disagreeing. I say put your differences aside, accept the other person’s point of view and try to be constructive.”

You should put that in every single article comment page, because there always seems to be 98 percent arguing and bickering and 2 percent solution. That’s how the NWO is winning, because keeping us divided with politics and religion seems to work well for them. And I fall for it more times than I would like to admit.

If someone wants to believe that their God is going to save them, what gives another person the right to tell them to shut up about it?? I really don’t understand. We are trying to find solutions here and we won’t get anywhere if we spend our time disagreeing. I say put your differences aside, accept the other person’s point of view and try to be constructive.

I think that like me, most people would want to avoid conflict, so let’s start by giving the example.

To Jos Boersema: thank you for apologizing for the foul language, but you didn’t need to
BTW I once again agree with your approach, and I would add that another objective would be to try to help them see the bigger picture and what their superior’s ultimate goals might be. Would all the soldiers still have fought in Iraq had they known that the war was based on a lie?

but it could go that way if you gospel spooching clowns keep thinking it to be!
thought is very powerful.

your faith is yours not ours – do you understand?
constitutionally speaking, freedom of religion is also freedom from religion and i am exercising my constitutional right to tell you i dont believe in your religion and i am tired of you people flinging it on this site like you are our own personal jesus.
stop that shit now!
you are seriously pissing off my god – you know the one -(Guardian Of Divinity)the omni present godforce that exists in all life beings. yeah that one – you are pissing him off with your rhetoric of war book biblical bullshit.

we are all connected to each other at the very root of humanity by the godforce. and it has nothing to do with any religion, or falacies of the war book – if you want to protect or change things then do it, god helps those that help themselves. so know god – live godly and act as godly as you can. i already follow god and you are not my jesus so keep your bullshit in check!! thump to your flock not here – this fellowship is being deafened by your constant message of what your reality is.

“Wow GreenGlass, sorry God doesn’t work on your terms. I could resort to name calling or numerous other ways to point out how you’re a bit lacking upstairs but I can’t help but remember what my Grandfather told me many years ago. “Don’t argue with a fool, other people won’t know the difference”. Your ignorance, anger and pride will be the reason of your eternal failure.”

Mike, if Jesus came back, he would most definitely call you a coward, and be absolutely ashamed of you. I too, Mike , could resort to name calling, as I could call you, as a religious bible-thumping freak, a bigoted and hate-filled mongrel who uses the word of Jesus and God to satiate your hatred toward those who disagree with your philosophy.

You see, you pompous arrogant fool, nothing within me is lacking upstairs, as you so eloquently stated…it is you who is lacking, as you judge indeterminately, and without reason. And If anybody does so, then it would be Satan. And you seem to be in league with him.

Nobody uses the words of Jesus to spread hate and intolerance more than those who least understand the words of Jesus…and it seems, Mike in Michigan, that you fail to understand the words that your so called ‘Jesus’ spoke.

Once again, if Jesus did happen to return, he would smite you with great vengeance, for your intolerance is transparent. You see, anyone who disagrees with you, Mike in Michigan, is inherently wrong, because, of course, to you, your view is the only view…and that, to me, relegates you to the wicked.

Your inability to be, of any shape or form, tolerant of those who oppose your view, subjugates you to the evil in which you oppose.

God is not angry, God is not intolerant, and God is not vengeful. You know what, Mike in Michigan….you ARE God, as much as me, as much as the reader who reads this very sentence, and from what I have read from you, you are doing a pretty shitty job at representing God.

Mike, Get off your lazy ass and do something. I can guarantee that you talk and talk and talk about Jesus and God, yet you do nothing to make this world a paradise. And that is what Jesus spoke of…this world becoming as paradise, here and now, without any bullshit rapture that you lazy freaks always seem to use as the excuse to do nothing.

The Creator gave you free-will, so use it! Stop those who are in league with the anti-Christ. Have faith Mike, Jesus is with you!. Have the courage to do it yourself, and stop relying on Jesus…after all, that’s why he dies on the cross, right? Jesus gives you the strength, Jesus gives you the power.

And if I were Jesus, and had to return to this planet to stop the evil-doers, I would say;

“For Christs sake Mike in Michigan, why didn’t you stop the evil, why didn’t you use your Faith and your power to help those in need when they needed it…why did you have to wait for me to return to help you…get off your lazy ass and help yourself.”

Please Mike in Michigan, I beg of you, point out how I am lacking upstairs!

Wow indeed!

“Well GreenGlass, he will show up and the ONLY weapon he’ll have is the WORD of God. As he speaks it, all those on the side of Anti-Christ will be destroyed. And no bullshit.”

Well Mike in Michigan, you are living in a fantasy land. The word of God doesn’t seem to stop bullets now does it. Have you ever read some of the stories of Christian/Catholic missionaries who righteously, at least in their minds, ‘invade’ other counties, spreading their ‘word of God’ to unsuspecting natives. Guess what usually happened to those missionaries? Well, in countries that breed cannibals, they were eaten. And in countries that breed the use of bows and arrows and hatchets, the missionaries were slaughtered.

You see Mike in Michigan, there is this pervasive overbearing righteousness that religion ‘grants’, and this righteousness creates an altered reality in which those who would be deemed as evil will suddenly be destroyed by some magical being.

Mike, could you possibly imagine, since human have been killing humans, how many innocent people have been butchered . I’m sure its a staggering number. Yet where was your God to stop ANY of it. Where was Jesus, so that, as you put it “all those on the side of Anti-Christ will be destroyed.”

I’m not saying there is not some form of Creator, what I am saying is that this Creator doesn’t give a fuck about us, or, more likely, we are on our own, and such concepts as free-will reign supreme, so that if a soldier wish’s to put a gun to your head and pull the trigger, he/she is going to just that, and the only ‘being’ that is going to save you from being murdered is another human. Jesus is not going to ‘pop’ out of thin air, rattle off some ‘words of God’, and make everything OK. It didn’t happen a thousand years ago, and it not going to happen now, nor will it happen a thousand years from now.

Faith is a horribly viscous concept. And I would, on ANY given day, put faith in my fellow man before I would put that same faith in Jesus suddenly appearing and saving us good little children.

Mike, go use your energy and ‘word of God’ to stop innocent Iraqi’s from being slaughtered by United States bombs. Put your ‘word of God’ to stop the use of fluoride in our water, pesticides in our food, pollution in our air, chemtrails, genetically modified foods, mercury in vaccines.

Mike, put your ‘word of God’ to use and help the million of starving children who go to bed hungry, the homeless who live under bridges and in the streets, the kids who can’t afford lunch at school, or books, or a change of clothes.

Mike, You want to destroy all those on the side of Anti-Christ, then for Gods sake, start doing it yourself, and stop being lazy and self righteous by expecting Jesus to come and fix it for you and make it all better. If Jesus did show up, The first thing he would ask is;

“Mike, I died on the cross, but what have you done to stop all those on the side of the Anti-Christ?”

That’s right, no bullshit.

And you would likely see portions of the ‘us’ side migrate over to the ‘them’ side in order to save their asses. IE, citizens joining the military for the sole purpose of killing other citizens.

But, you will also most definitely see the ‘them’ side migrate over to ‘us’, and help innocent Americans protect themselves.

Simply put, a large portion of the military would resist their commanding officers and turn on their military brainwashed murderous ‘buddies’ who have decided that its OK to round up citizens for camps, or shoot them dead.

Do you realize the number of high-ranking military personnel who have vehemently bucked the system, and mocked in disgrace what Bush is attempting to do? No, if the military as a whole is told to turn on us for the purpose of rounding us up and killing us, there WILL be large numbers of defectors who bring with them their experience AND their cache of ‘big ass guns’ and weaponry.

For those of you here that believe in passive resistance…do you realize what in Gods name you are saying? All I can say is that I hope when Jesus does ever happen to show up (which in itself is a bunch of bullshit), he brings a shitload of weapons with him.

Other themes: “America is worth fighting for at home and abroad …
- “free speech”
- “no torture”
- … etc etc

You can then make a series of it, which the troops could collect if they want to. This may spark some debate between troops: “hey XX, why do you collect these cheesy postcards” “well isn`t this right ? they are a bit cheesy, but I like what they are saying …” whatever, if they talk about civil liberties, that is plus. This could later indicate what troops can not be trusted also.

The postcards could have the USA flag in all kinds of colors besides blue & red, this as a preparation for later carving up USA into multiple sovereign American “brother/sister nations,” each could potentially have a USA federal flag in a different color. Could maintain 50 start/stripes, which is also a feature in a potentially Constitutional upgrade for the USA ( http://www.jhwh.be/law )