Comments on: Now there are 1,000 laws that will let the state into your home http://www.prisonplanet.com/now-there-are-1000-laws-that-will-let-the-state-into-your-home.html Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:55:40 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Attus Ducaz Vulturas http://www.prisonplanet.com/now-there-are-1000-laws-that-will-let-the-state-into-your-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-201417 Attus Ducaz Vulturas Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:41:39 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=624#comment-201417 Well now, if only america and england could talk it out like chris and flek we could just be dandy. if two agro-citizens can agree to something, so could two old time bastards in the higher echelon of our governments to stop this madness! we need to keep uniting! C.O.T.A. will soon be at hand to unify mankind. good form flek and chris. good points on both sides. the problem with other countries is that they do not have the american constitution! we have been given the power to restructure our government. the feds is to be under state, working to aide the state, not for feds to regulate state. the states have power however "we the people" have carte blanche when we deem that the u.s. gov has failed to protect us financially and physically. now i know not what ur forefathers in england have decreed an order of future protection for her citizens. maybe they need a re-writing! -Attus Well now, if only america and england could talk it out like chris and flek we could just be dandy. if two agro-citizens can agree to something, so could two old time bastards in the higher echelon of our governments to stop this madness! we need to keep uniting!

C.O.T.A. will soon be at hand to unify mankind.
good form flek and chris. good points on both sides.

the problem with other countries is that they do not have the american constitution! we have been given the power to restructure our government. the feds is to be under state, working to aide the state, not for feds to regulate state. the states have power however “we the people” have carte blanche when we deem that the u.s. gov has failed to protect us financially and physically. now i know not what ur forefathers in england have decreed an order of future protection for her citizens. maybe they need a re-writing!
-Attus

]]> By: flek http://www.prisonplanet.com/now-there-are-1000-laws-that-will-let-the-state-into-your-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-7236 flek Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:55:46 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=624#comment-7236 Chris, very glad to know you haven't just given up and crawled away into a dark pub somewhere. I'm just so annoyed because I lived in Britain back in the 80's and it was a truly great country. I just see red when people there seem to have such little self worth to act and preserve their roots. Obviously, by your reply, you are not one of them. Apologies. Just remember all this and talk about it the next time you do crawl away into a dark pub somewhere. Pull their heads out of the sand. -cheers Chris, very glad to know you haven’t just given up and crawled away into a dark pub somewhere. I’m just so annoyed because I lived in Britain back in the 80’s and it was a truly great country. I just see red when people there seem to have such little self worth to act and preserve their roots.
Obviously, by your reply, you are not one of them.
Apologies.
Just remember all this and talk about it the next time you do crawl away into a dark pub somewhere. Pull their heads out of the sand.
-cheers

]]> By: Chris http://www.prisonplanet.com/now-there-are-1000-laws-that-will-let-the-state-into-your-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-6754 Chris Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:56:29 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=624#comment-6754 OK, well I have to say I agree with your point. But I disagree that I don't have the ability to act. Personally I do, but unfortunately in the UK (and seemingly in the USA as well) the people with that mentality are in the minority, preferring to be apathetic and just grumble about it instead. The reason I said 'we don't have a say in this' is because realistically we don't, these things will be forced on us against our will anyway. It's not necessarily defeatist, it's realistic - unless we choose not to put up with it any more. My philosophy, like David Icke (and Ghandi) says, is 'peaceful non-cooperation', ie simply refusing to go along with whatever crap the system flings at you in a non-violent way. If enough people just refused to co-operate (for example removing the chips from their bins and simply posting them back to the government) then they couldn't pull this stuff on us time and time again. The real problem is the attitude of the majority of people being apathetic or not caring (or not even realising that there is a problem!), but I just wonder how far the public will have to be pushed until they stand up and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. That time is getting ever nearer, I feel, as this once-great country descends into more and more complete madness by the day. OK, well I have to say I agree with your point. But I disagree that I don’t have the ability to act. Personally I do, but unfortunately in the UK (and seemingly in the USA as well) the people with that mentality are in the minority, preferring to be apathetic and just grumble about it instead.

The reason I said ‘we don’t have a say in this’ is because realistically we don’t, these things will be forced on us against our will anyway. It’s not necessarily defeatist, it’s realistic – unless we choose not to put up with it any more.

My philosophy, like David Icke (and Ghandi) says, is ‘peaceful non-cooperation’, ie simply refusing to go along with whatever crap the system flings at you in a non-violent way. If enough people just refused to co-operate (for example removing the chips from their bins and simply posting them back to the government) then they couldn’t pull this stuff on us time and time again.

The real problem is the attitude of the majority of people being apathetic or not caring (or not even realising that there is a problem!), but I just wonder how far the public will have to be pushed until they stand up and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. That time is getting ever nearer, I feel, as this once-great country descends into more and more complete madness by the day.

]]> By: flek http://www.prisonplanet.com/now-there-are-1000-laws-that-will-let-the-state-into-your-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-6739 flek Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:04:22 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=624#comment-6739 That is your inherent problem Chris. The inability to act. Gandhi and his followers did it by refusing to do a damn thing until things changed. Bringing the machine to a grinding halt. You have the power to change things but are too afraid to do so. You must speak and act with one voice. "As if we get any say in this" is admitting slavery and defeat. Probably a similar line used by US blacks before Martin Luther King Jr. came along... Boats were made of wood, men of steel...boats were made of iron, men of wood. Boats are made of steel men are made of paper...to be thrown in any circular file the govt. wishes to put them in. "As if we get any say in this"-defeatist...insert spine! That is your inherent problem Chris. The inability to act.
Gandhi and his followers did it by refusing to do a damn thing until things changed. Bringing the machine to a grinding halt.
You have the power to change things but are too afraid to do so. You must speak and act with one voice.
“As if we get any say in this” is admitting slavery and defeat. Probably a similar line used by US blacks before Martin Luther King Jr. came along…
Boats were made of wood, men of steel…boats were made of iron, men of wood. Boats are made of steel men are made of paper…to be thrown in any circular file the govt. wishes to put them in.
“As if we get any say in this”-defeatist…insert spine!

]]> By: Chris http://www.prisonplanet.com/now-there-are-1000-laws-that-will-let-the-state-into-your-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-6731 Chris Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:27:22 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=624#comment-6731 Hey 'flek', STFU. As if we get any say in this, you mindless idiot. Hey ‘flek’, STFU. As if we get any say in this, you mindless idiot.

]]> By: flek http://www.prisonplanet.com/now-there-are-1000-laws-that-will-let-the-state-into-your-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-6726 flek Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:02:43 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=624#comment-6726 Britons...you are to blame. Period. Britons…you are to blame. Period.

]]> By: MAD MARK http://www.prisonplanet.com/now-there-are-1000-laws-that-will-let-the-state-into-your-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-6667 MAD MARK Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:23:56 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=624#comment-6667 That's what will happen here (U.S.) if we do not stop them now. First, it's spot road checks for assumed violations even if your driving is just fine. Next it's crackdown at school. No meds from home, no missing school without congressionl approval. Lastly, take all the guns. Your clergymen will help you find a homeland security weapons disposal location. That's all it takes for the Fed or State to be able to control you. If the Brits had guns they would still be free. That’s what will happen here (U.S.) if we do not stop them now. First, it’s spot road checks for assumed violations even if your driving is just fine. Next it’s crackdown at school. No meds from home, no missing school without congressionl approval. Lastly, take all the guns. Your clergymen will help you find a homeland security weapons disposal location. That’s all it takes for the Fed or State to be able to control you. If the Brits had guns they would still be free.

]]> By: FK http://www.prisonplanet.com/now-there-are-1000-laws-that-will-let-the-state-into-your-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-6648 FK Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:43:34 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=624#comment-6648 Good stuff.....keep the people in check..... Good stuff…..keep the people in check…..

]]> By: Ciaran Gallagher http://www.prisonplanet.com/now-there-are-1000-laws-that-will-let-the-state-into-your-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-6618 Ciaran Gallagher Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:08:46 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=624#comment-6618 You'd think this is a joke. But it really isn't. People are being forced to pay expensive fines for not closing bin lids properly! Help us! You’d think this is a joke. But it really isn’t. People are being forced to pay expensive fines for not closing bin lids properly! Help us!

]]> By: Canadianperson http://www.prisonplanet.com/now-there-are-1000-laws-that-will-let-the-state-into-your-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-6601 Canadianperson Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:35:55 +0000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/?p=624#comment-6601 Disgusting. Disgusting.

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