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Obama Fanatics Slam Author For Questioning 9/11
Establishment phonies, NY Times attempt to stoke feigned controversy over Corsi’s skepticism of official story, seemingly unaware that his doubts are shared by the majority of Americans
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Friday, August 15, 2008
An army of frenzied Barack Obama acolytes have been busy attempting to smear writer Jerome Corsi, author of Obama Nation, by citing his skepticism towards the official 9/11 story, seemingly ignorant of the fact that such doubts are shared by the majority of Americans.
The New York Times also got in on the act with a sneering attempt to validate the attack on Corsi, which is being supported by Obama’s own campaign staff.
The coordinated smear attempt is obviously born out of the concern that Corsi’s 2004 book, Unfit for Command, basically sank John Kerry’s presidential bid because it was the inspiration behind the Swift Boat Veteran’s For Truth campaign.
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The Times cites Corsi’s appearance “On Alex Jones’s radio show, a forum for those who take a deeply skeptical view of government claims about the attacks” and says that the video is “making the rounds, especially among Obama supporters”.
Well it mustn’t be making it very far because as of writing the You Tube clip has little over 5,000 views which in terms of “viral” status is a drop in the ocean.
“The clip has Mr. Corsi discussing the findings of Steven Jones, physicist and hero of the “9/11 Truth” movement who claims to have evidence that the World Trade Center towers collapsed due to explosives inside the building, not just the planes hitting them, during the attacks,” reports the Times.
“The fire, from jet fuel, does not burn hot enough to produce the physical evidence that he’s produced,” Mr. Corsi said. “So when you’ve got science that the hypothesis doesn’t explain–evidence–then the hypothesis doesn’t stand anymore. It doesn’t mean there’s a new hypothesis you’ve validated. It just means the government’s explanation of the jet fuel fire is not a sufficient explanation to explain the evidence of these spheres–these microscopic spheres–that Steven Jones has proved existed within the W.T.C. dust.”
The NY Times simply reprints Corsi’s quotes verbatim as if the words alone are enough to shame him.
Jerome Corsi
“Every day we learn something new that completely undercuts Corsi’s credibility,” said Tommy Vietor, an Obama spokesman, in light of Mr. Corsi’s remarks about 9/11.
Here’s a newsflash for the New York Times and the mindless Obama cult members who think that questioning 9/11 is “controversial” and “undercuts credibility” – skepticism of the official 9/11 story is shared by the majority of Americans – according to the New York Times’ own poll on the subject!
In fact, it undercuts Obama’s credibility, in particular his meaningless sound bite platitude to stand for change, that he and his minions would so aggressively support an establishment position on 9/11 that even the government-appointed 9/11 Commission disbelieved.
An October 2006 CBS/New York Times poll found that a mere 16% of Americans thought the U.S. government was telling the truth about 9/11. A further 53% thought the White House was “hiding something” and 28% said they were “mostly lying”.
That’s 81% who do not trust the official version of events and 16% who do – with a further 3% in the “don’t know” category.
In case Obama’s campaign and its delirious followers are not too smart with their math – 16 per cent is not a majority. 81 per cent is a fairly clear indication of where the majority of Americans stand with regard to the official 9/11 story.
So Obama supporters and campaign managers – please stop it already with the feigned controversy and the hot air about Corsi questioning 9/11, he is simply voicing doubts shared by the majority of Americans, and as such, attempting to smear him on this issue is the height of stupidity.
Now go back to chanting your mindless empty slogans about “change” while attacking anyone who questions the status quo you seem so rabidly eager to protect.
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August 15th, 2008 at 4:14 am
Damn straight!
August 15th, 2008 at 4:23 am
Its not about Obama or Jerome Corsi. Its about the truth. Media propaganda and manipulation will always use devices like ad hominem even if they have to create a “straw man” to attack. It doesn’t matter one iota if any of us like Jerome Corsi nor what his book says about Obama. It may be true it may not be or it may be somewhere in the middle. The PEER REVIEWED scientific findings of Dr. Jones are what they are and they have not been refuted. That is the issue. That is the point.
August 15th, 2008 at 4:34 am
Yup.
Hey Be true Seek TRuth., and Sephyra, I have an honest to goodness plan. It may be ambitiuos by it absolutely works in concept.
I promise it is nothing you heard before.
Sorry to be vague, but give me your E-mail and I will have a whole Protocol and plan in writing in a week.
For now , just know it is called GOOD BILDEBURG, and that is what it will be.
I laid it out step by step in my head AND in dicussion/debate. and what is the harm of leaving your E-mail?
August 15th, 2008 at 4:37 am
9/11 was an inside job!
The problem is this…..they won’t debate the book! I watched him on Larry King and it was disgusting! It reminded me of when Ron Paul was being interviewed during the campaign and he never got to answer any of the questions and the other person just filled the time slot with disinfo about’em.
We are a nation of weak febal minded fools, that can not rationalize any information that is presented to them that may be out side their designated paradigm.
As an Infowarrior, I am doing my part and other should do the same. Here are links to my 9/11 Truth painting I created and my Facts and Resources page. I will soon be creating another painting on the subject of Building #7.
“With Liberty and Justice for All”
http://poparf.com/bp_911_truth.html
Pop ARF 9/11 Facts and Resources
http://poparf.com/911_factsandresources.html
August 15th, 2008 at 5:07 am
McCain and Obama are both traitors. Those who run the US will not allow an honest man in…and, the election (the appointment, not election, all elections are phoney) might not even take place. If they pull another event like 9/11 only worse, Bush might be pemanent dictator. With Cheney pulling the puppet strings.
August 15th, 2008 at 5:32 am
I have to say that I live in NJ and work in NY, and aside from myself and a couple of friends, I don’t know anyone who doubts the official story.
Perhaps the notion that we are making inroads to the truth is a bit overstated. If I broach the subject I typically receive the questions, “Are you telling me that the government and the media are lying to us?” Or, “Do you honestly think that if this was some sort of coverup, no one would have said something by now?”
It goes on and on, but the most important part is that people refuse to believe that the news and government are lying because then it would extend to their pocketbooks.
August 15th, 2008 at 5:33 am
Obama’s FISA vote is the kind of change Americans can expect. Wait till he expands war and calls that change. When his million youth snitch brigade and his environmental cops begin to intrude on everyones privacy and freedom I’m sure that will be called change. Change isn’t always a good thing especially when the changer has already warned that everyone must work harder for less. Everyone that is except the New World Order and their corporations and banks. Of course thats not a big change.
August 15th, 2008 at 5:47 am
“youth snitch brigade” already exists with programs like DARE, “Keep Guns Out of School” , DFYIT (Drug Free Youth In Town) , and so forth, and many of these “local programs” turn out to be federally funded on closer inspection (see “CREATING A BROWN SHIRT SOCIETY” by Lynn Stuter, http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter65.htm ).
The difference is that under Obama, the racial element of the snitches changes, that’s all.
August 15th, 2008 at 5:59 am
when the truth movement accepts members that also participate in political hackery it damages the credibility of the entire movement. jerome corsi did lie about kerry and obama. in the first 9 of his footnotes in this new book, the man uses himself as a source, total intellectual dishonesty. this reminds me of that idiot fetzer. whom i have seen in person rave about the new world order and plasma beams for two hours and then when asked who he supported for the presidential race has the gall to say hillary clinton! its obvious that the goverment is implanting people into the truth movement to make us all look crazy to the mainstream. alex jones should know better than to have such a right wing hack with such strong ties to the neocon fascists on his show. it just brings us all down man.
August 15th, 2008 at 6:01 am
Leave your E-mails.
I have a true concept called GOOD BILDERBURG.
Basically it will consist of a 2-3 day meeting of of to 150-200 invited members consisting of people such as Aj , someone from coast to coast , Maxwell, that Bilderburg reporter in Aj’s doc. “End Game”, The 911 truth movement chairmen or whatever they call them selves, scientists , activists, philosophers,researchers, malcontents, etc..
Their goal will be to form TOGETHER under the umbrella of, GOOD BILDERBURG, and decide objectives in a combined way and UNITED in the face of a common enemy.
Dwell on the idea just the tiniest bit, please.
This can create a true underground movement that is as organised as an army, all to combat (in law abiding ways) a common enemy.
Please entertain my view that the time for debate and research and discussion has reached it’s point of value and that we are all just talking to each other who already know, activists are working alone. If all efforts work under one umbrella brand name in an organised effort, your one idea in your one city could instead be performed NATIONWIDE, and all that is needed to make that happen is for GOOD BILDERBURG, which you are a member, to thinks it’s a good idea!
Leave your E-mails and I will have the whole mission statement to you in a week. All about brand name saturation and symbol placing and viral advertising, all in a combined and democratic matter, AND ENTIRELY OPEN TO ALL, the exact opposite of the real Bilderburg, which is the point.
Next stop deliver mission statement to Willie Nelson on 911 truth concert, and make sure it is written as a trap so that do ignore it will be to ignore your conscious, or logic. I defy anybody to ignore those two things at the same time, it is impossible. His Big Name abilities will be all I need to get the needed momentum.
LEAVE YOUR E-MAILS.
August 15th, 2008 at 6:39 am
leaving my eamil to receive news on the Good Builderberg meetings. and I personally think the name should be re thunk, but that’s just simantics.
xatharis@hotmail.com
August 15th, 2008 at 6:59 am
Hard to believe all these people think politicians are going to make a difference. America is “owned”. I saw some clever grafiti: :If voting really changed anything , they would make it illegal. Alex you are the coolest.
August 15th, 2008 at 7:01 am
So several years ago I began to notice increasingly suspicious activities. I had been having trouble for years before but I had never put two and two together. In 2004 I noticed an increase in people following me. I had a guy who said he was military intelligence approach me and just spark up random conversation about a 9/11 show I was listening to on the computer. I was pulled over and detained in a police car for a minor traffic violation. With increasing harrassment I soon was fired and evicted from my home. I was staying with family and they have a neighborhood emergency warning system. It plays several loud tones and then an emergency broadcast. This particular day it came on and said there will be an attack in 5 minutes or we are going to attack in 5 minutes. Now I have been under a massive psychological warfare campaign for years. I have had people run me off the road , bumping into me at the store, people staring at me for no obvious reason. Every job I would get they would always hire another new person at the same time who would usually be in a supervisor position. I always had trouble and ended up quitting. Now I don’t have any criminal record and I had not commited any crimes so the thought had not crossed my mind that I might be under some kind of investigation or surveillance. It seemed like someone was trying to get my attention. Well they did and they are terrorizing me to this day.
August 15th, 2008 at 7:12 am
Wow, excellent article! Make sure to check out the video the Obamamaniacs are spewing on the internet…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yCfI3VmL88
If you look at the quotes they dug up on him, it’s no wonder people discredit him and subsequently discredit the entire 9-11 movement. You need to address those points they’re making in the video here on this website so that the public understands.
August 15th, 2008 at 7:39 am
I am both a 9/11 ‘Truther’
AND
An Obama supporter,
So just because the mainstream media jumps on board with smear tactics against Corsi, doesn’t by any stretch of imagination make Obama supporters “mindless drones”.
Of course Obama’s campaign is going to try to discredit this guy any way they can, his book is probably 80% bullshit, just like Unfit For Command, which, THANKS SO MUCH by the way, helped give us another 4 years of BUSH in office. That’s worked out so well, hasn’t it? Thanks buddy…
Why does so much on this site have to be viciously exaggerated for effect? There are always good articles that end up sprinkled with vitriol and unnecessary jabs at people.
The choice is between Obama and JOHN MCCAIN, people! Lt’s not forget that. As imperfect as Obama may be, he’s still 3000% better than McCain ever will be for PRESIDENT.
We ALL deeply and desperately want change in this country and in the world, and when someone comes along actually proposing such things, he gets laughed at and dismisses by angry cynics everywhere.
Fantastic.
August 15th, 2008 at 7:51 am
Obama is a member of the CFR. The CFR executes the mandate of the NWO. Obama is a sell out. He has and will continue to sell out our country and citizens. He is nothing more than a criminal. Yes, he offers change. What change is it that he will bring?
August 15th, 2008 at 8:06 am
Shame on the ignorant Americans!
Obama is just the same as Bush and McCain.
Anybdy notice how Obama said that, “Iran is a great threat”? – Remind you of anyone in particular? Bush?
Corrupt politicians!
August 15th, 2008 at 8:15 am
Do we actually care , he will do nothing
August 15th, 2008 at 8:23 am
Try getting a Obama supporter to explain just exactly what ‘change’ means on the Obama platform. More Federally subsidized handouts promised and, the big one for them, the first black man elected to President.
So basically they are voting for more debt for themselves and their children just so they can feel good about voting for the black guy.
Sounds stupid and racist to me.
Maybe they should think about voting someone into office who’s idea for change is the Constitution, the idea of real liberty? Unfortunately the Ron Paul bus left the station awhile ago and getting a Obama supporter to vote for another Christian white man is going to be impossible.
August 15th, 2008 at 8:26 am
“seemingly unaware that his doubts are shared by the majority of Americans”
LMFAO! Do you guys still believe this mythology?
August 15th, 2008 at 8:28 am
all the heroes on 911 died there…we are just alive to talk about them..marc in dallas you are a total pin job or a plant…either way get some help..
August 15th, 2008 at 8:35 am
Extra! Extra!
The WORLD is for liquidation worry up for the Great SALES!
Start the Grand OPEN with POLAND!
And you can ask … POLAND again?
Yep
Extra! Extra!
Should it be hard to you understand that may the average of 100 people in all this World has the money enough to buy all houses , lands and all the industrial system?
Think about it!
They also can buy everything inside JOB.
August 15th, 2008 at 8:35 am
Isn’t one of the truth groups called We Are Change? What have they so far to bring about “change”? This is the same group that will allow NO discussion on who excatly planted the demolitions in the WTC’s. This is the same group that will allow NO discussion of the fact that no evidence exists of any planes on 911. Change is a lie. When it’s in your slogan or montra….rest assured change will never be forthcoming.
August 15th, 2008 at 9:23 am
You know someone is a cowardly, authority-worshipping Kool-Aid drinker when all he or she ever does is (a) arrogantly dismiss out-of-hand, rather than rationally address, the facts and reasoning behind the non-government approved viewpoint in question; and (b) wage childish smear attacks against whoever committed the almighty sin of expressing that viewpoint.
Such people *deserve* to live in tyranny. And since they’re too arrogant and self-righteous to admit they’ve been WRONG all this time about the official account of 9/11 being true (it isn’t), tyranny is *exactly* what they’re going to get!
And when that happens, they’ll have nobody but themselves to blame, because Alex Jones has been trying to warn these cowardly know-it-alls for nearly SEVEN YEARS that “tyranny” is the very thing for which the 9/11 attacks were *designed* to serve as an all-justifying pretext:
http://video.google.com/videop.....i_DQ&q
August 15th, 2008 at 9:32 am
watch the sun,
as it crawls across a final time
and it feels like,
like it was a friend.
it is watching us,
and the world we set on fire
do you wonder,
if it feels the same?
and the sky is filled with light
can you see it?
all the black is really white
if you believe it
as your time is running out
let me take away your doubt
you can find a better a place
in this twilight
from dust to dust,
ashes in your hair remind me
what it feels like
and I won’t feel again
night descends
could I have been a better person
if I could only do it all again
and the sky is filled with light
can you see it?
all the black is really white
if you believe it
and the longing that you feel
you know none of this is real
you will find a better place
in this twilight
August 15th, 2008 at 9:45 am
People need to just realize that 9/11 was an inside job, an atrosious crime committed by those who claim to have the peoples best intrest at heart. We need to rise together and make sure the ones who are at fault for the deaths of those who died on 9/11 are brought to justice. They have to much inoccent blood on their hands to let them walk free, justice must be upheld, either by the people in this life or by God in the next. When will people wake up and stop the hate…
August 15th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Ya know, I was driving the other day and I saw a bumper sticker that read “Obamas HOT!”. What the hell is wrong with these people???? And I love the people that will spew all this crap about Obama, but yet they’ve never heard of the CFR!!! Unless America has a mass wake up, we are doomed to the NWO.
August 15th, 2008 at 10:11 am
@ Nick T:
Here’s what I say to people who express doubt that the government would have perpetrated the 9/11 attacks.
First I remind them that the US government lied about WMDs and other issues to start an aggressive war against Iraq.
If they admit to the truth of that, I point out to them that if the US government would lie about WMDs to start a war that has resulted in the deaths of more than four thousand US soldiers and scores of thousands fo Iraqi civilians, it’s very naive and also logically inconsistent to think that the US government wouldn’t have perpetrated the 9/11 attacks to create an excuse for the invasion of Iraq.
August 15th, 2008 at 10:13 am
idontlikeobamaormccain, that’s funny but I’ll tell ya, if it gets that bad it won’t be my head that I shoot. I’ll save my ammo for the Imperial Storm Troopers!!
August 15th, 2008 at 10:17 am
Greg, I lent a copy of AJ’a Road to Tyranny to my neighbor…He throw it in the garbage and told me that I was sick in the head. Its almost comical how some of these people act when you try to penetrate the “group think”.
August 15th, 2008 at 10:25 am
wah wah wa. god dammit you suck trent. melodramatic faggot.
August 15th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Takes one to know one, Miss Breznor.
August 15th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Ah, but, blind fanaticism is always agenda driven. A change in rhetoric by Obama supporters would disrupt their ’spirt d’ cor’; a spirit of ‘blindness’ actually.
August 15th, 2008 at 11:06 am
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August 15th, 2008 at 11:34 am
All of Obama’s people are politicians, even though he’s only been in the senate 2 years, his folk have been there decades and are entrenched in the pile of lies which will soon be Obama’s views too. The only change we can expect is the change we’ll be scrounging for between the cushions of our sofas, to pay for this high ass gas
August 15th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Jerome Corsi is a Neo-Con!
August 15th, 2008 at 11:50 am
IT MAKES ME SICK HOW THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA CLAIM THAT MR. CORSI RESEARCH HAS BEEN DEBINKED, BUT FAIL PROVIDE THE DEBUNKING EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE DEBUNK.
August 15th, 2008 at 11:56 am
Have you seen the attack “reviews” of Mr. Corsi’s latest book “Obama Nation” on Amazon.com? The Obama Cult members have come out in full force to denigrate both the book and Mr. Corsi’s credibility. The irony is you can tell by the “reviews” that not one of the people that panned the book have even READ it. No one sites examples — just attack, attack, attack. Read the “reviews” and most say the same thing — call it a “swift boating” of Obama, yada yada yada. The next consistent review is how often they play the race card. These Obama fanatics are downright scary!
The sad thing is, if Obama “wins” and the nation goes further down the rat hole — how many of these Obama fanatics will admit they helped to hasten the downfall? Probably not many. Like the people that voted for Bush now criticize but will never admit they voted for him (and you can see the Bush/Cheney 04 bumper stickers ripped most of the way off their bumpers).
August 15th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
For the brainwashed folks…the truth hurts. Great job Dr. Corsey and Alex. The saints are moving forward and we are going to track down every single one of you devils on this planet and put you devils in your proper place forever. NWO, watch your back because we are locked in to your targets and you will be apprehended “chickenhawks”. Long live the freedom of the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights!!!
August 15th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Please Watch “Alternative 3″ The REAL Plan. Google it.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Yeah I was surprised when I looked at the pdf challenging Obama Nation. Even if you’re not a 9/11 conspiracist, there is a great number of people who think there was so much not being disclosed and ineptitude that should have led to many people getting fired at the least. They should have stuck to countering Corsi’s claims, not trying to look more righteous because the writer has some very non status-quo opinions of the government. What’s stupid is they do actually contradict Corsi numerous times and show he makes some fallacious statements in the book but the way they fill in the rest is a disgrace.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Hello, my name is Barack Obama, and I’m going to bring change to America. My first act as President will be to change Washington. I’ll start by bringing change to the government. After I have suceeded in that, I will bring change to the country. I will then visit each U.S. state and bring change to them on an individual basis. The next step will to bring change to our culture. I hope to change our children by sitting down with each of them, and ordering them to change. If they refuse to change, they will be removed from their unchanging family enviroment and placed in a “change” camp. There they will be forced to change or face severe consequences. The one change I’m not for is climate change, which is clearly a negative incarnation of change. Did I mention I’m for change?
August 15th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
To dave S. below: —>if yer gonna just pop in and say that sombody is a neo-con….ya kinda should have somthing to back it up . . .see watch how B*llSh*t it can look/be:—-> Dave S. is a cross-dressing, dog rape’n, midget zionist!!!!!!. . . .
August 15th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
some one should slam obama, ah that is, slam his head into the ground as hard as they can and then maybe just maybe he’ll wake up from his powersoaked induced stuper, and what the hell are we doing this for this is wrong
August 15th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
when the truth movement accepts members that also participate in political hackery it damages the credibility of the entire movement. jerome corsi did lie about kerry and obama. in the first 9 of his footnotes in this new book, the man uses himself as a source, total intellectual dishonesty. this reminds me of that idiot fetzer. whom i have seen in person rave about the new world order and plasma beams for two hours and then when asked who he supported for the presidential race has the gall to say hillary clinton! its obvious that the goverment is implanting people into the truth movement to make us all look crazy to the mainstream. alex jones should know better than to have such a right wing hack with such strong ties to the neocon fascists on his show. it just brings us all down man.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
idontlikeobamaormccain
you hopeless pompus ass, SHUT UP
August 15th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
obama supporters will just repeat his political double talk, without even knowing what their saying, their blind, mezmorized by
boastful speaking, and prob. to far gone to reach, they’ll only wake up after he shows his true skin like with g.w. bushlips
August 15th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Just finished reading Matt Taibbi(sp)article in the new Rolling Stone. It confirms my long standing position that our elections are stolen long before the polls ever open. Obama is being bought off by basically the same ones who bought off McCain. It doesn’t make one bit of difference who is in the White the same agenda will be handed to them and they carrying it out. The last candidate for real change was probably Bobby Kennedy. Ron Paul is for real change but he might as well been campaigning on Mars. It’s a rigged game people. Everybody who thinks Obama represents change shout read the RS article. New boss same as the old boss.
August 15th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
People have a hard time believing that there government would do such an act of sacrificing the lives of over three thousand country men and women who where not directly or indirectly involved with the terrorist act.But history will show you that it has been done in the past and there are those that survived to tell the truth but since that day many years ago many of the witnesses have died and only a few remain and there memory is clouded with age but they still remember that day when Israel sank the USS Liberty and when it was under attack and planes where sent to rescue her they where called back because it was deliberately attacked and sunk to blame Egypt so Israel could gain more lands and water.This was all planned between the US and Israeli governments and the lives on that ship did not matter.So why do people have such a hard time believing 9/11 when everyone knows history repeats itself.
August 15th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
McCain is in and Obama is out,just ask the hackers.
August 15th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Corsi has been talking out of both sides of his mouth for some time now..what he will say,all depends whos show he is on…its all about selling books..lots of um..whatever will sell the most books to the given audience..Corsi needs to put away that dam bottle of beefeaters before one of those spidergin veins in his face bursts
August 15th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Jerome Corsi is a slimy sockpuppet- defending him is a losing battle.
Don’t let this smear monger drag us all down with him.
Distance yourself, people!
August 15th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
This article says it all to me! ‘R’ or ‘D’, same poison. Different names!
I Can Lead You:
An ‘organized’ effort is a fine idea. I just don’t think too favorably about continuing to feed the “herd mentality” that already exists out there. Isn’t one of the very defining qualities of a “free land” the basis we call “leaderless” and “self-governing”? Why do we need a few more leaders? Why unite out of cooperation as equals and educate all to be his or her OWN leader? Something else to consider: Have you thought about the consequences of having one large organization? Have you not noticed WHY the citizen militias and other grass-roots resistance groups have broken into SMALLER groups? They all did that because it made things harder for this facist ‘government’ and its proxy organizations to break up and dismantle these groups! Haven’t listened during the Clinton Administration’s denouncement and scare-mongering about the militias breaking into smaller ‘cells’? The ONLY way a movement can gain any ground to achieve a positive object is to unite in effort, but exist “decentralized”! I agree on cooperative principles, but disagree on having an over-sized, “super organization” to ‘manage’ the freedom movement! How do you/we plan to keep this organization honest and on its true mission? How do we know that such an organization ( lead by whom? ) will not be co-opted and taken over by those with enormous wealth, and turned into a sword against the people it was supposed to serve?
If you can answer all of these questions, then you may have a good answer. Otherwise, I have to say NO on the grounds of knowing too much of the history of such ‘grass-roots’, national organizations. I’m for teaching all others how to lead themselves, BEFORE they aspire to lead others to freedom. You do that by TEACHING/GUIDING people the TRUTH, and showing them that it really works. LEADERLESS RESISTANCE. Government can only control what it can more easily seize ( like singular organizations ). That’s why governments and their proxies HATE “LEADERLESS RESISTANCE”!
With that said, Cheers!!!
-JSSmith
August 15th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Just to get link on here http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Repo.....wrongdoing
August 15th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Quotation by Comrade Fegel (He sorely in need of a logic class(:
“First I remind them that the US government lied about WMDs and other issues to start an aggressive war against Iraq.
If they admit to the truth of that, I point out to them that if the US government would lie about WMDs to start a war that has resulted in the deaths of more than four thousand US soldiers and scores of thousands fo Iraqi civilians, it’s very naive and also logically inconsistent to think that the US government wouldn’t have perpetrated the 9/11 attacks to create an excuse for the invasion of Iraq.”
So, professor Fegel, if I lie to you when I tell you I am 20 years old, does that NECESSARILY MEAN I’m lying to you when I tell you my car is green? Guess what! I am not 20 years old AND my car IS green. Ha! You intellect, you.
August 15th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Corsi has just berried 9/11 Truth. RiP 01′-08′,truthers dropping out of groups fast..Just in time for the big rally with Willie..Now its just going be look at these cult members on the news,Dam Corsi and he’s editor for not fact checking the simplest of things..Time to hang up the 9/11 truth shirts and pawn the dvd burners it’s over…
August 16th, 2008 at 2:09 am
Not true. Haven’t you heard? Any publicity is good publicity. It means people will probably google 9/11 and come across the terror timeline (google it) or some of mike ruppert’s stuff (google it).
We could all take a lesson from the people coming to this board to tell us the 9/11 truth movement is dead. Welcome to the fire boys, the 9/11 truth movement will never die. Hijacked, provacatured, smeared, all of the above, but it will never die. You know what will die? The old system, that we are in. What gets me most upset about all of us in the united states, is that we have accepted a society where physical deformity is a normal, genetic way to grow up (im talking about all the narrow faced, deviated septum having, braces wearing, pinched sinus suffering, oxygen deprived souls out there whose mom and dad ate american bullshit food such as corn fed everything and pasteurized milk. Google weston price, raymond silkman). We will never rise up because the new crop, all the children under ten today is insane. Too much aspartame, MSG, red 40, corn everything, soy everything, grain EVERYTHING, has left our society robbed of its genetic potential. We could have sat on top of the world, but food was hijacked by the same concepts that govern the world of these global elites: money and domination, granted, for a specific (and *vital*) market.
We are too far gone at this point, there are too many people that will have too much trouble becoming fertile, because their bodies are not full expressed. Again, google weston price to find out what I am talking about.
I have but abandoned the 9/11 truth movement. I have joined the population that feeds itself with its own money- the local farmer. Cheaper, fresher, bursting with ripened nutrients, it is a world that can deliver us from the evil that pervades society all the way down to the food we eat. It restores traditions that made america great, and brought the “hybrid vigor” as it was termed so long ago to life. America should be the strongest (i mean person to person, not in guns or money) population on the planet. We have every ecosystem available to us, except tropical rainforests, but we buy our food from the grocery store. You are contributing to every thing that the NWO or WHATEVER you want to call it destroys us with: high gas prices, the displacing foods of modern commerce, starvation (in many countries), gmo crops, etc.
Visit foodroutes.org to locate sources of organic, local foods that will ensure a healthy life and braces free children.
August 16th, 2008 at 3:06 am
After watching the movie Number 23, I realized something…
O(15)B(2)A(1)M(13)A(1)
15+2+1+13+1=32
32 being 23 in reverse. 2 divided by 3 = .666
Obama’s logo is the rising sun, a new light or day. Who
is known for being the “Light-Bringer”?
A sign?
August 16th, 2008 at 3:12 am
9/11/2001
9+11+2+0+0+1 = 23
WTC
W(23)T(20)C(3) 23/20/3 23 for each tower?
August 16th, 2008 at 3:13 am
Obama, the new Nero @ 666.
August 16th, 2008 at 3:20 am
FOX
F(6)O(15)X(24)
6 1+5=6 2+4=6
666
This explains why they call it FOX NEWS, and not, Twentieth Century Fox News.
666 NEWS
August 16th, 2008 at 3:33 am
George W. Bush
W is the 23rd letter of the alphabet.
2/3 = .666
He’s been a good satanic minion, don’t you think?
August 16th, 2008 at 4:04 am
Update.
upon reviewing various interview clips and reading some back-story I believe Jerome Corsi ’s book in the context of how he has promoted it as well as his less than stellar research and documentation; will cause great damage to 911 truth by way of his association with it. I think everyone will agree that the most important thing we have in this fight is our creditability, because without that our ironclad facts will not matter.
In my opinion it is critical that 911 truth at this point put as much distance as possible between our selves and Jerome Corsi. We the believer can tolerate and even forgive Mr. Corsi’s methodology, but the skeptic and unbeliever never will. Mr. Corsi’s book makes him look like a political hatchet man with indeed an ax to grind.
For 911 truth there are no luxuries granted to it. We either tell the truth backed up by solid, indisputable evidence or we are a laughing stock to the unopened eyes.
The times are grave, and the world is watching. If we drop the ball by rallying around the questionable we risk losing the faith and hope outside as well as inside of our borders that there are still some decent Americans left in our nation who are not willing to go along with the lies of this administration
In my opinion Jerome Corsi has decided to willfully play his part in this evil choreography making himself nothing more than just another cog in the wheel of what passes as politics In America today.
August 16th, 2008 at 6:14 am
What an incredible shame! Just when 9/11 truth was turning a corner and picking-up steam, along comes Corsi, hatchet-man extraordinaire! What’s even more amazing is that Alex has given him a platform and a shovel to help bury the truth movement. Corsi (and the other Swift-Boaters) are single-handedly responsible for the Bush fascist regime’s current reign of NWO terror!
August 16th, 2008 at 6:37 am
Corsi has a foreign affairs policy similar to Abama in that they spread fear of Iran and Russia which could lead us into another staged world war.
Bring troops home and support our borders protection is the best policy.
August 16th, 2008 at 8:54 am
I never did trust Obama. I as a blackman am personally embarrassed how my people follow anyone black. It seems they would willingly follow the devil if he was black 2.
August 16th, 2008 at 9:21 am
I can’t believe the NY Crimes posts, it looks like one person posting the same crap over and over. How can it be fair if it is so heavily moderated. What a joke periodical.
August 16th, 2008 at 10:30 am
seems to me if there was any truth to this hillary would have used it adn so would the gop to bop obama out of the race.
im sure corsi was well financed to produce this load of crap.
the KGB WOULD BE PROUD.
August 16th, 2008 at 10:51 am
I agree with FVS. I don’t have any use for either of the “anointed/appointed candidates” and I thank Alex for making an old man of 56 years finally awaken to the left-right paradigm but it is Dr. Corsi’s shabbily vetted of his self described on Alex’s program “irrefutable facts” about Obama that have been so easily refuted that has created the new “surge” of 9/11 Truthers detractors!
When I heard Dr. Corsi announce his book on Alex’s program and his description of the total exposure of Obama as a fraud I fully expected something at the Alex Jones standard of documentation and not sourced and footnoted by who know’s what blogs, rumors and innuendos that are so easily discredited. Not to mention direct misquotations that have been demonstrated to be wrong.
Dr. Corsi went after Skull and Bones Kerry but I heard nothing, NOTHING from him about Bush’s disappearing act in Alabama!
Dr. Corsi IS NOT being attacked because he has linked himself to the 9/11 Truth Movement. It is the patriots who are battling to expose the NWO who have been damaged by his trying to gain credibility by glomming onto Alex and the Truthers.
August 16th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
DC Matthews – go shill for that America-hating racist commie Obama somewhere else!
August 17th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Sorry, but I don’t trust anything coming from the mouth Jerome Corsi. I am wondering if he isn’t a closet zionist myself. I would never pay a cent for anything Jerome Corsi writes. I just don’t trust the guy nor do I trust his intentions. I will not be voting for McCain nor Obama. I don’t think Obama is a racist like some are saying in this group. he is both White and Black!!! He was raised by his White relatives. That doesn’t mean he can’t be a racist. Can’t we come up with something more intelligent than that?
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August 17th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
I think Alex is merely protecting the mans right to free speech FVS. Don’t get me wrong I don’t care much for corsi myself but he should have the right to say what he says because if we don’t allow that we are no better than the facist pigs who oppress free thought and speech.
August 17th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
GO TO http://Kucinich.us/
August 18th, 2008 at 2:11 am
Obama sucks
Mc Cain sucks
and if you vote for either of those smucks
then you suck!
vote 3rd party or don’t vote at all
August 18th, 2008 at 7:43 am
DC MATTHEWS:
they’re obviously all on the same team. it doesn’t matter who gets elected – they are all bought any paid for by different people. The Rockefellers are supporting Obama, and zbigniew brezinski is also behind him. it’s not about the politics you see, that’s all just a pre-made show.
August 18th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
both Candidates are bought paid for and SOLD by their Pimps, the lobbyists. Obama is just a gentle velvet face theyre trying to use to gloss over the whole 911 fiasco, and the majority of US citizens being pissed off about it. RESIST… or bend over, its your choice.
August 19th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
What backwards newspaper prints this trash journalism? New York Times?
Screw Obama and his sheep.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Pimp?
If he pimp… he broke pimp!
August 20th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends
August 21st, 2008 at 1:25 am
Did Planes Really Crash Into the WTC Towers on 911?
Contrary to NIST & the US Government, there is overwhelming evidence to conclude that the planes seen on TV were the result of SFX special effects (TV fakery).
Many try to suppress this obvious fact, but to exclude other theories out of hand w/o examination is not only disingenuous, it’s simply denial (a defence mechanism) and only results in a misinformed, skewed opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0XrU70Lc-U
There were no planes entering the WTC Towers on 911. Perhaps all the related films about 911 produced before and since were made to condition the public into acceptance of the official “planes” fantasy. Any discussion of planes on 911, passengers, hijackers, etc. all continue to help keep the fantasy alive.
Believing the government’s fairytale of planes colliding with the Towers is the main problem w/ fully understanding 911. The media was broadcasting fake, manipulated images of planes. Superimposing a plane on 911 was done w/ Wescam technology; it provided a single “live” feed from which all the TV networks broadcast. Other videos & images started to appear in the days, weeks & months following 911. All of them have anomalies & impossibilities which can only be explained by excluding planes.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xpUKwpwSRwc
Real planes would have been a potential liability for the perps on 911. It was easier to control the outcome of the event with much less risk by using the media to broadcast fake imagery. Real jets might miss their targets, get shot down, suffer pilot or computer errors, destroy or prematurely detonate any explosives, passengers could have overtaken the hijackers, and/or the plane might not inflict enough perceived damage to make a collapse believable.
A single fact which cannot be refuted is that a hollow aluminum plane (especially fragile wings) cannot slice through steel beams and concrete without any damage to the plane. News footage showing an airliner gliding into a Tower without any resistance is a cartoon. Aluminum planes are not built for impact and crumple immediately upon contact with solid objects; even a small bird can rip through a jet’s wing.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MCVwuf_AMFs
Furthermore, a large speeding jet’s vortex trails behind it creating a highly active atmosphere which follows in its path. Had a real plane impacted a WTC Tower, real film footage would have recorded the airliner’s vortex interacting with and violently dissipating the smoke from the alleged crash and the adjacent North Tower. No vortex literally means no planes on 911 (TV fakery).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlj1mVD2-HM
During the South Tower “impact”, fake TV footage shows a WTC Tower sealing itself around the plane during the alleged penetration. Still another too incredible to believe anomaly is the width of the plane’s purported gash didn’t match the width of a Boeing 757’s wing span. Another widely publicized video shot by Scott Myers shows the forward fuselage of the “jet” exiting the South Tower, though other shots later reveal no exit hole.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NCLL6h6-vvc
To consider the media footage showing a plane slicing thru steel and concrete as reality is ludicrous. There were no planes; only spoofed images, manipulated witnesses and falsified evidence. America please wake up; the media was a complicit partner that was in on the crime from the beginning. In fact, the TV psyop 911 couldn’t have been pulled off without the mass media’s assistance.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eoxaU16MntM
Actually “no planes on 911″ is the only explanation that makes any sense. There are far too many disturbing questions left unanswered which only TV fakery can address.
Besides all the other impossibilities mentioned, why are there several “hijackers” still alive; some are even suing the US government to recover their reputation and stolen identity.
Why have so many of the purported plane “victims” not been listed in the Social Security Death Index? …and their families not claimed their death benefits.
Why are there missing passenger lists and zero so-called Middle Eastern hijacker names on the flight manifest?
Why in the entire history of aviation has a plane never disappeared from a crash – yet on 911, four of them did in a single day? All plane parts are numbered; not one plane part from 911 has been identified by its number.
How could supposedly inexperienced “pilots” who couldn’t even fly a Cessna…
* threaten & subdue everyone on board a large airliner
* break into the locked cockpits w/ their hands
* kill all the ex-military pilots and copilots
…then navigate a large Boeing jetliner above the clouds all over several states without airport tower assistance, with nav systems & radios turned off, and fly with pinpoint accuracy into a building that they couldn’t even see?
It’s common knowledge amongst pilots that a Boeing 757 cannot fly at 500+ MPH at sea level – the air is too thick. That’s an airliner’s cruising speed attained at high 30,000+ ft. altitudes.
You can call Boeing; even they admit that – and they have been recorded in phone conversations recently saying so.
When an airliner is close to the ground it’s either taking off or landing. If forced to throttle to cruising speed at low altitude, it would break apart in mid-air.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=x2upl977dsY
Exposing “no planes on 911″ is probably the most important story to people beyond chemtrails, depleted uranium poisoning and nanotech genocide.
Americans are TV hypnotized, drugged up, dumbed down and so utterly dependent that in general they are incapable of critical thought and are disinterested in discovering how the media is adversely affecting their lives.
No planes on 911 and deception by the media is the Holy Grail of 911. It marks the beginning of an Orwellian double-speak mind-set which is now accepted as normal by the populace.
No-planes on 911 is highly important as it exposes the real perps behind this mass murder and offers justice to the thousands of people killed that day.
Without the covert deception by the media in collusion with the enemy in control of America’s military intelligence, 911 could not have happened.
The media was directly involved in 911 and together with a criminal government has helped diminish Americans’ freedoms and launch unending wars against innocent nations.
Don’t even consider making another comment on 911 till you have watched the “September Clues” video series:
http://www.livevideo.com/video.....part1.aspx
With so much evidence pointing to collusion between the military industrial complex, the US government and especially the media, very few have sought relief in the court systems, or via conventional mass media. Morgan Reynolds has filed numerous suits in federal court to no avail. His latest attempt and subsequent appeal were both summarily squashed before having even been properly heard. You can read the details on his website.
http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911
If one seeks only that evidence which fits the official explanation, then that is what you will find. That’s not science, it’s not objective thinking, it’s not even good common sense.
It is impossible in the real world for a plane to behave in such manner as per the official account. So long as you continue to deny that one simple concept you will be forever lost in endless pursuit of an answer that will never come.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/.....ng_videos/
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