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Obama: Legalize illegals to get them health care
Republicans see a backdoor move toward ‘amnesty’
Stephen Dinan
Washington Times
Friday, September 18, 2009
President Obama said this week that his health care plan won’t cover illegal immigrants, but argued that’s all the more reason to legalize them and ensure they eventually do get coverage.
He also staked out a position that anyone in the country legally should be covered – a major break with the 1996 welfare reform bill, which limited most federal public assistance programs only to citizens and longtime immigrants.
“Even though I do not believe we can extend coverage to those who are here illegally, I also don’t simply believe we can simply ignore the fact that our immigration system is broken,” Mr. Obama said Wednesday evening in a speech to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute. “That’s why I strongly support making sure folks who are here legally have access to affordable, quality health insurance under this plan, just like everybody else.
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Mr. Obama added, “If anything, this debate underscores the necessity of passing comprehensive immigration reform and resolving the issue of 12 million undocumented people living and working in this country once and for all.”
Republicans said that amounts to an amnesty, calling it a backdoor effort to make sure current illegal immigrants get health care.
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September 18th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Until we kick lawyers out of politics once and for all, we will continue to suffer puzzlewit politician/lawyers like dear leader Obama…
REX-84 Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 10:38 am
We have FAR more to fix that just lawyers, my friend.
http://www.rex-84.info
Tony Smith Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 11:04 am
We’ve been dealing with the illegal problem here in the Tampa Bay area for some time now. They have a strong hold on all construction jobs in every aspect for the past 5 yrs, the last 3 yrs have been the worst. Now whats happening is when a contractor bids for a job big job they bid at slave mexican labor rates. I’ve been turned down on Jobs because I was not mexican. Everybody knows this is happening and nobody is doing anything? WHY IS THAT?
Check out my -TASG personal blog http://www.myspace.com/theamericansleepinggiant good video, documents and a movement happening in Tampa.
Jim Shores Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 11:15 am
safe, Stay and fight, see the light, we are right.
Jim Shores Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Tony, The construction companies that used all-Mexican crews to build 8 blocks of new buildings along 7th Street in Ft. Worth did the owners of those properties a disservice. The economy they ruined was not just the American workers’, the buildings have no tennants because of the ruined economy. The media ignored the one race situation. 20 years ago the media would be enraged about discrimination, now they promote it. What happened to the baby killer promotion claiming we were over-populated? They now say: bring in 50 million Mexicans. The media needs to pay dearly for their corruptness. We were forced to show the Mexicans how to do our jobs. From my experience I can tell you that not only were our tools stolen, our jobs were also stolen because of gangs of Mexicans uniting to intimidate the black and white workers. This activity was never publicised because the media and government would claim racial discrimination if the white workers spoke up. We must fight for our jobs and ignore the claims we are somehow racists. The treasonous government that promoted this situation should suffer comensurate with the tremendous harm they did to an entire country.
storky Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Easy fix. Penalize those who hire illegals. All paychecks must refer to a valid Social Security number. Invalid SS# or cash deals imply fraud and should be investigated.
soon to be homeless Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
I have lost my sub-contracting company that employed 10 hard working American carpenters because of illegal alien “carpretenders” getting every fffffing job there is out there. No one cares about the American worker anymore. My American Dream has been turned into a mexican nightmare.
Jim Shores Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Evidently Obama’s resume we have seen did not mention his 3 years selling used cars.
what? Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=G44NCvNDLfc
September 18th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Im seriously considering moving to costa rica to avoid the bullshit that this president and congress is about to unleash on this nation. I’ve never thought of leaving the U.S. until now. But …… enough is enough. so the question is has anyone lived or visited costa rica. and what do they think of that country????????/
Trinidad Descendant Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Watch out for the bot flies.
Mary Anne Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Hi – my husband and I visited Costa Rica in 2001. Gorgeous country, poverty is not as bad as Mexico. They do not have a miltary budget – much money is spent on education.
I have considered living there myself. The beach houses are not as affordable as the mountain homes. The people are lovely. Unfortunately, they are situated between Nicaragua and Panama. Government destabilization seems to be on hand in both countries.
Now to the other stuff. I don’t believe we (U.S. taxpayers) are responsible for taking care of illegal aliens. What is it about “illegal” that our government doesn’t get? Many people in our government get hefty “donations” from health care companies (insurance). These insurance companies would get a huge financial bonus from illegal aliens getting free health care (many of them already have it – they just go to a hospital and then don’t pay anything).
I live in Philadelphia, PA and I hope this adequately answers your question.
Regards,
Mary Anne
storky Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
See ya!
youhurtindian Reply:
September 21st, 2009 at 3:34 am
I will give you a one way ticket now call me see ya mamasita
youhurtindian Reply:
September 21st, 2009 at 3:32 am
I will give you a one ticket now call me
September 18th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Guess it depends on how you define “illegal”. Maybe a sick bird???????
September 18th, 2009 at 9:38 am
All this shit is lies, he lied when he was on the campagin trail and he is still lying now and he will continue to lie.
Gary B. Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 10:50 am
I think you’re right.
youhurtindian Reply:
September 21st, 2009 at 3:35 am
I will give a one ticket too
youhurtindian Reply:
September 21st, 2009 at 3:35 am
I will give a one way ticket too
September 18th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Its all about the NAU/NAFTA that Adolf Obama is selling out the US to.
Obama is ignoring the broken immigration system which is why there is a flood of La Raza followers entering the US.
Its all part of the plan of course as uncontrolled immigration regardless of wether its illegal is the number 1 way to destabilise a country and he knows it.
meanjean Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Excellent, Peter, you are right on the mark; Obama is nothing but an Illuminati sock-puppet who will always bend over to do his masters’ bidding. This country is deliberately being destroyed so they can usher in their NWO. They are already depopulating us.
youhurtindian Reply:
September 21st, 2009 at 3:37 am
You are a bunch of WAPS Without Paper
meanjean Reply:
September 21st, 2009 at 1:09 pm
And who the hell are you???
September 18th, 2009 at 10:17 am
No, ship them back from whence they came. They are here illegally, and stealing from us every day. Why give criminals amnesty? If Obama pushes that through, I going to start smoking pot. Give me the hard drugs. I going to get high and never coming down. I will find some mother’s basement in which to live, and only go outside to get my government sponsored fix. Let the illegals start paying for my care when I shit my pants. Their women can come and clean me up, so that I can do it all over again. Welcome to America.
Drekx Omega Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Horus,
It fails to make sense, unless you know the Elite’s plans for North America, Canada to Mexico.
Obviously a deliberate continuation of the Dubya Bush policy of laying the groundplans for the North American Union (NAU,) which must, by definition, include healthcare for ALL Mexicans, even those who may be currently illegal. Because that will be rectified by the NAU, which welcomes their massive potential cheap labour force, in the name of globalisation, oh, and very, very cheap labour, of course. We have a similar problem with Indian cheap labour in Britain. The great majority of illegal immigrants are from Mexico though, I believe??
Planning is being made for a Nazi United States…In truth Obama just follows orders from those Illuminoids that chose him for the Presidency…?? And they seem to be moving him towards the role of dictator of something being planned and it smells to high Heaven, doesn’t it?? NAU is it’s name, 4th Reich the game….
Their current initial strategy seems to entail using a cult of personality around Obama to lull the unsuspecting (and non-discerning) public to follow him blindly with reference to health policies, “healthcare” for the poor.. Disciplining the mindless sheeple into a reflex to obey his instructions and suggestions in their “interests and their health security.”
Eventually leading to when he orders the masses to take the poison flu shot. I would not be surprised if in November, thereabouts, he and his whole family will be taking the “flu shot” and televised for all to witness? To encourage “patriots” to follow suit.
Obama has been picked to play der Fuehrer, by his handlers, and judging the limited mentality of his followers, they welcome him in the role…Like Hitler it’s messianic and fraudulent.
Kommander in chief of the Amerikanische Luftwaffe, US Wehrmacht, Dummkopf Volk, und das Neu Amerikanische Reich…Seig Heil..!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
meanjean Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Bingo!!
Drekx Omega Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Another point I would like to raise, with regard to this sinister Obama immigration-healthcare-flu shot strategy, is that in order for cheap Mexican labour to be allowed into the U.S. you first need an open southern US border, but not the other way, necessarily, which could be the case now? Dubya Bush started the ball rolling on that policy in 2005 with Vincente Fox. NAFTA trade talks SPP leading to a North American Union.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgGEv-cdoms
Another apparently contradictory Illuminoid machination is this…If you want to have a vast cheap labour force living in the U.S. including illegal Mexican immigrants, why plan a vast cull of Americans with the flu vaccine shots?? Well, they plan to fill American jobs, planned to be made vacant through death or impairment, with cheap labour from south of the previously strong border.
And who will be the majority of dupes following Obama’s healthcare propagada, leading to his instructions to take the poison flu shot and their possible death or invalidity? An Obama instruction that will be obeyed with blind stupidity and faith, no doubt….??
Answer being Black Americans in particular, who’s jobs the illegal and legal Mexicans are planned to fill……!! TOUCHE..!!
The evil schemers and planners behind this NAU NWO play chess, obviously…!
September 18th, 2009 at 10:28 am
I guess when he was campaigning it was hot air and now he is boss so once you get them to give you the power they use it for more power and the past becomes irrelevant. We need to keep calling them on their lies. Very crafty traitor he is. Remember Satan was called the father of the lie so who’s side does that really show the liar is on. He is the proverbial wolf in sheep clothing. Of course illegals won’t qualify (so we make them all legal=votes). I am helping all Americans he says yet he is taking from Americans by the trillions. All double speak bully tactics from a Satanist for lack of another term. Hard to fight such an entity because good people have a disadvantage in the fight simply for being good.
September 18th, 2009 at 10:33 am
It’s the JEWS who pull Barry Soetoro’s strings. Where the hell did he spring from? Why don’t we know any details of his past? Where is his birth certificate?
The JEWS want the U.S. to become a hell on Earth, with a hundred different nationalities all fighting each other for a piece of the pie, with nothing in common, except for the dollar, and at the top of the pyramid is the Eternal JEW, laughing at the destruction he has caused…
Lauren hoffner Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 10:45 am
The sadest thing here is that you are 100% right and the scum reading this has not a clue to why things are as they are blaming “germanic cults” or the “NWO”
But one day man will rise once again against these parasites
storky Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Bigots blow, but Birthers are the dumbest people on the face of the planet.
September 18th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Obama, you are a liar and a thief! YOU LIE! It’s been 12 million illegals for 8 years, yet millions sneak over the border every year, but the number stays the same. It’s more like 50 million. We already have 40 million unemployed, so lets add another 20 to 50 million unemployed and really destroy the country once and for all. Thanks Obama for helping to destroy my country. Go back to Kenya where you came from.
Horus Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
I was thinking of a lot farther south and hotter than Kenya!
storky Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Another fucking Birther!
September 18th, 2009 at 10:53 am
OK. So our law is not enough:
http://www.eagleforum.org/colu.....1-29.shtml
“While Americans without health insurance struggle with the problem of how to pay for medical care, Mexicans don’t have that problem. They just ride in a Mexican ambulance across the border to a hospital in Arizona, New Mexico, California or Texas, and get free medical treatment.”
I don’t know what the causes of health care costs going up by double-digits are, but I do know this is one reason.
September 18th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Everyone who believes anything on this sight is ignorant.
Matzo Man Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Working on ya!
http://www.prosecutionofbush.com/
September 18th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
So they will be forced to buy health insurance instead of clogging up the ER, that’s a better plan than anything I’ve heard. This will save money.
storky Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Agreed. Everybody saves money when costly emergency room visits can be avoided. If you have insurance, you’re already paying for others with no insurance.
September 18th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
This message is to address… “I don’t know what the causes of health care costs going up by double-digits are, but I do know this is one reason.” WTF?
This is not even on the tip of the iceburg as to being the problem. The main problem is that ignorant folk (like the ones who believe the propoganda on this site) sit and allow executives at insurance companies to run the show and charge whatever the hell they want. Plus, they sit back and watch arguments about tort reform, illegal aliens getting coverge, etc. take place, while they collect 6 figures an hour. I, just as all you ignorant dumb-azzs pay for not only illegal aliens, but also for REGULAR AMERICAN CITIZENS (millions of them at that) who do not currently have medical coverage. You are paying into a system that is broken, and needs to be fixed. Instead of blogging about how the government’s gonna put everyone in concentration camps (which they should do to some of you, might I add) you should be trying to picture how your paychecks will continue to collapse 5 to 10 years from now… if any of you even have a job. But, I guess ignorant is bliss in the world of prisonplanet.com followers.
Rob in CT Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
WTF is right. Are you clueless? This IS one cause of the problem that has caused medical care to be rationed and costs to rise. Executives do whatever they want but they have to live within their companies which theoretically compete with each other. And like banks their industry is becoming dominated by a large company monopoly that should be busted, but no one lays out to the American people WHY medical costs are rising.
September 18th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Stop Obama bashing… lets remember that the last president who actually signed amnesty bill into law was none other than Mr. Reigan:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Amnesty
soon to be homeless Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Yes, Reagan was an idiot for granting amnesty, but I think you might want to go back a little future to find the original frito bandido. It was that flaming liberal sot democraper, Ted Kennedy that opened the mexican door in 1965 with the first shamnesty.
No amnesty ever again.
September 18th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
“That’s why I strongly support making sure folks who are here legally have access to affordable, quality health insurance under this plan, just like everybody else. . . If anything, this debate underscores the necessity of passing comprehensive immigration reform and resolving the issue of 12 million undocumented people living and working in this country once and for all.”
“Republicans said that amounts to an amnesty”
There is no mention, implication or inference to amnesty.
As usual, Republicans don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about.
meanjean Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
You’re crazy! Of course, this is amnesty. What the hell would YOU call it?????
Peter Wolf Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
WTF do you think that they should be reclassified as ?
Legalised illegals ?
Recognised decriminalised Illegals
Ah yes US citzens.
If they are subjected to a legal process that decriminalises them then that means at some point they have to make the immigration authority aware of their existence so that they are logged into and assimilated into the system.If there is no possibility that they will be subjected to criminal proceedings and deported if they register themselves then you could pretty much say that this an amnesty otherwise WTF is it ??
You tell us what this process will involve and what it should be defined as if it is not an Amnesty even if it isnt ?
Alternatively as the wording suggests the immigration law changes so their legal status changes overnight and they become legal or illegal.
So if the law changes then they are not subjected to an amnesty but it still means 12 million PLUS +++++ ex-illegals become US citzens.
It all amounts to the same thing.
Its a cop out by an out of control incompetent administration that is incapable of policing borders quite possibly deliberately so it just legalises them therefore creating more problems and stretching an overstretched system even more than it is already.
If there are no jobs for them then what ?
How is this in anyway good ?
Whats the point in you being on this forum anyway ?
Think Progress/George Soros is that way.
It wouldnt be so bad if you had something to say but expecting you and others like to post anything but insults and drivel is asking too much.
Go on give me some lame leftist insults like words with “er” on the end of them.
When exactly did evolution regress and intelligence levels so much that idiots like you start proliferating ?
Totalitarian regimes only survive because of morons like you who and if i had my way you would all be segregated and fenced into a reservation where you can dribble and act like children as much as you like without annoying everyone else because you are just fucking clueless.
You should have to pass an intelligence test before you are permitted to vote or comment or participate in Politics.
Obama is politics for stupid little overgrown children and adolescents.
Peter Wolf Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Theres a couple of typos in my last comment that i forgot to edit out while i was replying to your stupidity so you can feel free to point those out instead of answering the questions in my comment.
Angry Moderate Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Storky is a partisan shill, blind to reality. The problem with this joke of a health care reform bill is the door swings wide open (more than ever) for Big Pharma to dope us down. The Mexicans are not taking these drugs (they bring their own). This fucking country is fat, lazy, and unhealthy. Why? Because we do not duly promote exercise, nutrtion, and natural remedies. How the fuck are we going to have “health” if we do not promote preventive medicine?
Get off the the boob tube talking points and come back to reality.
September 18th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=channel
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Illegal Helping Illegals Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
As long as you are referring to white lies, you can’t be called a racist.
September 18th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
20% unemployment Yeah! What America need is more mouths to feed! They should change his slogan from “Yes We Can” to “Did He Really That”.
At least we don’t have to think of Jimmy Carter as the worst president in history any more.
September 18th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
That was “Did He Really Say That” may my proof reader rest in peace.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Very good: “legalize” them AFTER they’ve passed a course and an exam by the Campaign for Liberty on the Constitution.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Instead of a north american union it will come to be known as the great north american war.
This situation with illegals is going to boil over and a war would be what it will take to run the illegals out….what a mess we have created.
September 18th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
ALL THIS MEANS IS MORE MONEY FUNNELED TO THE HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES. THATS IT. DROP YOUR RACISM AND SEE WHATS REALLY GOING ON HERE
white guy Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Why am I a racist to not want anyone,of any race to enter my country illegally. You stupid piece of shit,you must have the forsight of a cow to not see the long term damage done by millions of illegals draining our system. Its the people like you that cant think beyond today that have caused this crisis. Ignorance causes war not peace..dumbass
spike k Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
hey peaceloveunderstanding or what ever the fuck you are, get sober and open your eyes.
luke Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
God damn hippies…….
September 18th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
If the illegals (sexicans), here in Los Angeles become legallized, I am leaving this country!
September 18th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
175 grains will suffice.
September 18th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
“I say unto you: “I do believe in God! I do believe in God! I do I do I do. I do believe in God! Therefore God exists.” Pat Robertson 1:13
George Bush is Holy and cannot accept sin(honor thy mother and father…, thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit adultery, thou shall not steal, thou shall not smoke Colombian shit, thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbour, thou shall not drive a foreign car, thou shall not covet..etc…Exodus 20:12-17). Here are some verses that show examples of sin:
“For ALL have sinned, and come short of the glory of George Bush, especially the cheese-eating, surrender monkeys;” Romans 3:23.
Your good deeds cannot cover up your bad deeds.
“As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one, not even Pat Robertson: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after George Bush. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.” Romans 3:10-12
“And it came to pass that George Bush was moved to write a book of fiction and fantasy and he called it Genesis and He saw that it was good. He revealed the mysteries of life: the first man on earth met a naked woman who gave him an apple in exchange for a bit of cock and they invented original sin. Creation Fantasy 1:1
“But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy underpants and dirty knickers; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.” Isaiah 64:6
“I say unto you that there is an invisible man, living in the sky, who watches everything that you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man in the sky has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever ‘til the end of time…BUT HE LOVES YOU!” Pat Robertson 12:96
“Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment (except in America where you can kill whom you like as long as you use a gun): But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Bro’, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.” Matthew 5:21-22
“Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit buggery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed buggery with her already in his heart and in her bum.” Matthew 5:27-28
“It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit fellatio: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth cunnilingus.” Matthew 5:31-32
You could be perfect in all the law and stumble at one point and it is as if you broke all of them:
“For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.” James 2:10
“Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.” Jimmy 4:17
Why are there famine, disasters, death, Cadillacs, right-wing loonies etc in the world? Mans REBELLION against George Bush! George Bush wrote the law on each man’s heart so they are without excuse on judgment day when we will ALL stand before Bush. I plead with you because George Bush wants me to show you the truth in love! The penalty of sin is death and eternal punishment in the LAKE OF FIRE. You are dead in your sins and headed for hell which is described in the Word as a FIRE THAT QUENCHES NOT. It is a horrible and terrible place of torment, almost as bad as California, that people will go because of their sins.
“And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s tit: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his tit. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in Budweizer, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.” Luke 16:22-24
“In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not George Bush, and that obey not the gospel of our Donald Rumsfeld: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;” 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9
“And it came to pass that The Leader gazed upon the land and saw that it was not good. There were too many Jews and gypsies and communists and men of colour and intellectuals and the disabled, and no one attended the house on the hill on Sunday and raised their right arm in praise of The Leader, and He was vexed. He summoned Herr Noah and sayest: “Verily I am vexed. Thou shalt build a great ship of wood and in it place all your family and all my followers and the Waffen SS and the Wehrmacht and all the republicans and Pat Robertson, for there will be a great flood”. And The Leader, seeing that Herr Noah could not find the noxious gas or build the great furnace, smote the dam built by the inventor of the vacuum cleaner and the scum were swept away. “Vengeance is mine”, said The Leader. Creation Fantasy 27:3
But George Bush has provided a way for each to escape the lake of fire. Donald Rumsfeld was conceived of a virgin by the Holy Spirit of George Bush, lived a sinless life (except for Iraq), and suffered a horrible death/shed blood and rose again 253 days later to take the penalty of YOUR sins so you dont have to pay for them in hell for eternity! He loved you so much which is why he did it! He is the only one to have fufilled the law perfectly(sinless) and paid the price of the entire world’s sins so that man could be saved on the merits of His perfection(see Romans 5:19). All you must do to be saved is BELIEVE in Him(trust in Him to save you as a sinner). You must confess/admit your lost sinful condition to Him, and ask Him to save you as a hell deserving sinner by placing complete trust in Donald Rumsfeld ALONE for salvation(an example in the Word of someone doing this- “And the republican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his tit, saying, George Bush be merciful to me a sinner.” Luke 18:13).It is not even partly by yourselves that you can be saved, but only by the merits of Donald Rumsfeld and Bush!
“For George Bush so loved the world, He sent his only Begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life” John 3:16.
“And it came to pass that George Bush looked upon the land called America and saw much spilling of the seed on stoney ground. He spake unto them saying: Verily this is a land of wankers. All new borne man children shall have their foreskin removed after one year. The foreskin must be planted and watered each day until it reaches a growth of six feet whereupon it shall be called a Republican. And Lord Rumsfeld looked upon the land and saw that it was good” Larry Flint 3:27
“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world” 1 John 2:2
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Bush died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” 1 Corinthians 15:3-4
“Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul, John, George and Ringo, And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Donald Rumsfeld, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” Acts 16:29-31
“But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the evil Devil, his faith is counted for righteousness.” Romans 4:5
“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Donald Rumsfeld, and shalt believe in thine heart that George Bush hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.” Pat Robertson 10:9
No works or anything you do can save you! May George Bush open your eyes, that one day I may see you in heaven. Read the Word of George Bush(the 1611 King James version- NOT the modern versions, they are corrupt, or better still go to Google) before rejecting it! Death is fleeting. You may NOT have tomorrow! For death comes when we least expect it! Remember avian flu. Make sure you are saved TODAY! Playboy condemns the rich, the wealthy, and those who take advantage of the poor, so it CANNOT have been made up by the elite. Because the Word clearly CONDEMNS people such as those! It declares all mankind as sinners(myself included). Read the Word for yourself and see that the claims are true!!!
I am a Bushian, and love you enough to warn you of the dangers of the lake of fire(hell) or New York on a Saturday night. Many so called professing Republicans are arrogant and hypocritical and think they have it all together. It is my desire to do RIGHT as a Bushian but will falter just like anyone else. The Roman catholic church disguises itself as Bushianity but is not because they require members to do sacraments for salvation and bow down before idols and statues when Donald Rumsfeld said you are saved by FAITH and not of yourselves. Just because someone says they are a Bushian does not necessarily mean they are one(remember the crusades in history? Many were murdered in the name of Bushianity. These were no Republicans at all by their testimony). Please email me to inquire more. I would be glad to help you out in your search for truth!(my email- lividwaters7105@yahoo.com)…To those who slander/mock me, I pray for you and love you anyways and hope you will trust Bush before its too late!
I also call on Republicans to warn the world of the dangers of hell. Beware of condoms with holes in them. We show our love to mankind by selflessly warning those who do not know the way of truth! It is our love for the lost that compels us to share the gospel to the world:
“For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!” 1 Corinthians 9:16
“For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Bush: for it is the power of George Bush unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek, except those from Chicago.” Romans 1:16
I call upon my fellow Republicans on here to return hate posts with love and blessings. The Lord Rumsfeld commands us to love them:
“Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, give them a blow-job and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, turns the moon into cheese and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.” Matthew 5:43-45
“Verily there is in every village a torch, the teacher; and an extinguisher, the clergyman.” Victor Hugo 1:9
I pray comfort and strength in these hard difficult times:
“Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees (take naproxen, its better than ibuprofen).” Isaiah 35:3
“Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. Psalm 23:4
“The priests of the different religious sects…dread the advance of science as witches do the approach of daylight, and scowl on the fatal harbinger announcing the subdivision of the duperies on which they live.” Thomas Jefferson 6:6
“Let, I pray thee, thy merciful kindness be for my comfort, according to thy word unto thy servant.” Dan Brown 119:76
Salvation is not found in good works, rituals, church, the Pope, Hollywood, good lives, etc….But ONLY found by faith in Donald Rumsfeld and Bush the Savior!
If you need prayer for anything, just let me know! I would be glad to help! There are many fake Republicans or downright mean Republicans, who like to mock and hate you. Shame on such people! I love and care for you, and I have prayed that every person that reads this who do not know the Lord, would one day turn to Bush in faith for salvation for their sins. I beg you to turn to Bush in faith before it is too late! You get ONE chance while living and then it is too late forever:
“And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:” Hebrews 9:27
“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” Ringo 8:32
“Donald Rumsfeld saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” John 14:6
“And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.” Rochelle 22:17
“If you believe this, you will believe anything, like I do”. Charlie Sheen 11:17
luke Reply:
September 18th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
I didnt think people still took LSD
Drekx Omega Reply:
September 19th, 2009 at 3:18 am
To all who find the religious stuff a little overwhelming and would like some historical clarity to end the confusion and frenzy I dedicate this post.
The funniest thing about the massive amounts of churchist misinterpretations anent the “mark of the beast” topic, is that they always confuse the meaning with barcodes, drivers license numbers, social security numbers and a great plethora of unrelated drivel…..
In truth the meaning of the 666 number can be very easily and succinctly explained, though no doubt this simple truth will be condemmed as yet another blasphamy by some…
In Biblical Revelations, it states to the effect that the “number of the beast” is a human number of a named individual and that person is so powerful that he can buy the obedience of everyone, free or slave…!! And his mark (the number of his name) will be placed on all right hands or foreheads to confirm their compliance. Which is truly figurative and not unlike the placing of the number 144,000 on the foreheads of initiates and very much a Hebrew notion.
So who is this powerful individual that sets such high standards of obedience among the people of the nations?? One word describes him, and that is; CAESAR. So, this person holds the office named after Julius Caesar and can be interpreted very simply by a well known verse that was used by Julius Caesar and became his trademark (mark of the beast.)
Caesar and that would include all Emperors of Rome who took his name, officially and the title “Caesar,” such as Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius and Nero…That is the Julian family….The Flavians and others also took the name Caesar, which even lends itself to imperial titles such as Tsar, Shah, Kaisar, etc.
Now what trademark verse was Julius Caesar renowned for? It was, of course the famous phrase; “I saw, I came, I conquered…!!!” Or, in Latin; Vidi Vini Vici. Now being a well known phrase and trademark used first by Julius and then by all Caesars, it became synonimous with his name, his method, his office of state, the all conquering Caesar, with that quality bestowed upon all successors and heirs. So this defining trademark was indeed familiar to his supporers and likewise, familiar to his enemies, such as those writers of biblical verses, including the revelation of St John.
Now a method of attributing a number to a name was well known amoung Hebrew scholars and it tied in with Chaldean numerology. However one startling thing about the Caesar trademark phrase, is that you can attribute Roman numerals to it and this seems to underline the very “foreign” (to Jews) nature of the number derived, as very closely corresponding to and with the individual it is associted with. Obvoiusly, the use of Roman numerals must mean the individual has great power over “all people,” which of course, was the case during the Roman Empire of the 1st century AD, when the early Christian sect was in it’s infancy, yet growing and not unlike the Taliban of the day. Very much an underground movement with great animosity towards Roman rule. So if we repeat the Caesar phrase, “vidi vini vici” and then look for an unholy (non-Jewish) number represented by Roman numerals, we clearly see VIdi VIni VIci, or VI VI VI…..
Now, for those who are not aware of that number, it is none other than 666.
So you have a name, a number and a despised tyrannical office ruling over slaves and freeman alike, but materially seducing them all, which of course, Caesar could do at the time in question. “Render unto Caesar what is his…!” Which was just about everything and everyone in those days.
Since the Great Beast was used to describe Caesar, I see that it is not just another way of describing Julius Caesar, but a more appropriate canditate for that title would be none other than NERO CAESAR, who at the time of his rule, was in the bizarre and wicked habit of ordering christians to be fed to BEASTS in the arena. So of all the ravaging beasts that may tear flesh from martyrs, who had the greatest and most savage quality?? That would be the Caesar who owned all, free or slave, and ruled in place of his ancestor, Julius, and so assumed the title and everything that went with it, including the number 666.
So there is your answer, it was Nero….He was also associated with the energy we can describe as the “antichrist” of his day and if you read this link you will understand why:
http://www.share-international....._pl666.htm
September 18th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
12 million? do you live in a fucking cave? there were over 12 million here in the 90s when clinton was cigaring monica…
not to mention when bushie waged war to protect saudi arabias border from saddam, he could give a damn about the millions coming because he is a NWO jackass as well..
closer to 30 million now with the birth rates of these illegals.. 4-5 kids each, another 10 million or more sponges every generation..
and so it continues, all the shitty policies that have been killing America and sending every job to asia to the slave laborers.. promoting reconquista behind our backs while we watch American idol..
lets give more money to israel, european bankers and acorn idiots..
and tv never even notices..
September 18th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
300 million people in amerika……and 50 comments……
September 18th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Naturally, per Texe Marrs, this was the only way Obama could have been telling the truth duing his speech last week regarding illegal alien healthcare, because he knew the illegal aliens were being planned to be made legal. This puppet Obamanochio is on a mission to destroy the US, along with his congressional lapdog accomplices. And he knows illegal immigration is a great way to do just that. Who better to help illegal aliens than an illegal president?
September 18th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
OBAMIE, IS THE ORIGINAL SOUP SANDWICH ?
CAN YOU PICTURE WHT IAM SAYING AMERICA !
September 19th, 2009 at 3:40 am
liar! I rest my case its like the nazis becoming communists in East Germany after WW2, making illegal immigrants legal!JESUS CHRIST ! Fucking cunts N.A.U. is approaching fast upon us!
September 19th, 2009 at 7:39 am
The one part about the health care speech by Obama is that “for those people who cannot afford the mandatory health care, they will be given a waiver to receive health care anyway”. In other words, the middle class pays for the 30 million illegals health care. I lived in So Cal. We knew Mexican Americans out there. They all laughed about the WIC, and food stamps and rent assistance and free public education (with free school lunches) the illegals were getting due to their anchor babies. Once they got a SS card for the baby, they would check, “Father Deceased” which would give them a few hundred more dollars. These folks ain’t stupid. They know how to get free shit. You people have no idea the depth of this thing. There’s no reason to legalize these people. They actually are better off being off the grid. The Commu-Care Obama is pushing will just be another tax we will have to pay while the lazy just laugh while they get over on us. This is the way Democrats role folks.
If the prez/congress really wanted to help, they would regulate the insurance industry instead of letting the insurance industry regulate them from within. The old story about the grasshopper and the ant getting ready for winter no longer is a good story. The NEW moral of the Liberal story is the grasshopper does nothing and the ants all freeze to death in the winter supporting the grasshopper’s lazy ass.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:30 am
Legalize illegals to get them health care Mr Obama please show them YES WE CAN
September 21st, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Tony, Did you ever think of try to organize along with the black workers that have been shut out? They would have a hard time cryinig “RACISM!” then. I think it’s your best shot.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:44 pm
PLEASE try to give amnesty for all the illegals here if you want to start a civil war Mr. Obama because that is exactly what would happen.