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Obama To Consider Geoengineering Climate
Prisonplanet.com
Wednesday April 8th, 2009
President Obama is considering “climate engineering” as a way of combatting climate change caused by carbon emissions, according to John Holdren, the administration’s chief science advisor.
The president’s new science adviser said Wednesday that global warming is so dire, the Obama administration is discussing radical technologies to cool Earth’s air, the AP reports.
One “solution” being touted by Holdren is “shooting pollution particles into the upper atmosphere to reflect the sun’s rays”.
Alarm bells were soundedback in December over the appointment of Holdren, following op eds that he penned slamming anyone who challenges the notion of man made global warming.
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April 8th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Oh come on: that is already being done on a huge scale. See USAF document “owning the weather by 2025, force multiplier”, uaff.us and click on my photos of chemtrails in FL, 2008, see stevequayle.com and archived stories under weatherwarfare or strangedaysstrangeskies. Can’t keep hiding the chemtrails, just admit to them. Germany has lots of reports. Willthomasonline.net and barium blues will also have info for you. Best to you and help illuminate this madness. Sandra
storky Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Why not get your data directly from the source:
The U.S. Department of Energy Atmospheric Radiation Measurement (ARM) Program
Indirect and Semi-Direct Aerosol Campaign (ISDAC)
justme Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
thanks storky, nicely done just me aka sandra
April 8th, 2009 at 11:05 am
This is already being done internationally. See weather warfare at stevequayle.com, photos at uaff.us under chemtrails, usaf document owning the weather by 2025, strangedaysstrangeskies, barium blues and willthomasonline.net. Can’t hide it, show it in plain site. Just look up, especially before an approaching rain front, the spraying will be done ahead of and above the rain clouds. Enough already blessings, suzanne
April 8th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Gays in the military, homosexuals getting married, goverment funding of abortion, goverment ok on stem cell research, economic crisis and now they want to change the climate. May the good Lord have mercy on their souls. Forgive them father for they know not what they do.
storky Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:38 am
I’m amused at how zealots try to pin the Economic Crisis on Obama.
FYI
The recession began in December 2007
Bear Stearns failed in March 2008
Obama was elected November 2008
Obama took office January 2009 – 13 months after the crisis began
The Obama Adminstration budget will be enacted October 1, 2009
sunday Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Hi,
And don’t forget the splitting of Jerusalem, but then again, it was Prophesized ( Joel )…
God Bless….
http://www.endtimestube.com
April 8th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Research: DIRECT/INDIRECT AEROSOL PROGRAM, and how this new report ties in with the New Council On Foreign Relations artice entitled Unilateral Planetary GeoEngineering. “Unilateral Geoengineering? One country spraying the world!
April 8th, 2009 at 11:38 am
“climate engineering” is another reason why the global warming is a FRAUD to extract more ILLEGAL taxation without reason. If the climate can be manipulated as they say it can, then what’s the problem and there is no need for even more taxes. Are they trying to heat up the planet so they can say ‘we’ want more of your money to fund this terrorist govt’s policies.
Weather manipulation PROVES the global cooling/warming is another giant scam.
Tony Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Precisely!
April 8th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
omg,you are right,it’s another scam,to put fear in people about global warming.that’s what cap and trade is.al gore should kill himself.
Tony Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
IF ONLY!
April 8th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Gets even better…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdren
John Holdren, Obama’s science adviser, won a Volvo environment prize in 1993 with this guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_R._Ehrlich
Author of “The Population Bomb”
April 8th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Great article, but this one expands on that psycho’s (Holdren’s) views:
http://www.examiner.com/x-219-.....ngineering
“In the late 1960s Holdren warned that population controls needed to be implemented immediate and said that “some form of ecocatastrophe” would befall the planet. He has further recommended the “de-development” of modern industrialized countries in order to assist underdeveloped nations.”
Just like Alex has mentioned, these elite psychos want to bring down the living standards of the Western World – not to mention murdering many millions or even billions of us in the process. Sick.
April 8th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Well, the same guys that have ruined our economy, are also ruining our environment and our our health, with their “bad science gone mad” schemes. Their geoengineering weather modification programs (under the guise of saving us from global warming) are dispersing fine aluminum oxide micron size particle powder and other toxic metals into our atmosphere, which rains down upon us polluting our lungs, our bodies, surface waters and lands.
Take a look at the article printed in the local paper in Mt. Shasta, CA reporting the off-the-chart levels of aluminum being picked in the snowpack, rainfall and ponds in both Shasta and Siskiyou counties. See: http://www.mtshastanews.com/op…..n-concerns
or http://www.americanskywatch.com
These aluminum readings correlate with the Welsbach patent the government issued to Hughes Aircraft in 1990, which describes seeding the atmosphere with fine (micron size) particulate reflective metals to reflect back the sun helping to mitigate the effects of “global warming”.
Please sign the “Persistent Contrails/Chemtrail” petition and let our brilliant new president know that we here in California and Oregon already know that our climate is being geoengineered. You only have to step outside and look up at the skies to know something weird is happening, its called off-the-charts levels of aluminum contamination in our snowpack, rainfall and ponds.
As I said before, they know many Americans are waking up to this fact, so they have their “weather modification” bills in Congress to pass and now they spin corporate media stories to brainwash the public into accepting these toxic skies as a way to “save us from global warming”. Oh, should I say the new doublespeak lingo is to “save us from climate change”.
Please sign the petition to Obama asking him to investigate and end these toxic sky programs at: http://www.thepetitionsite.com…..-our-skies.
storky Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
“Well, the same guys that have ruined our economy,”
What’s the Bush Administration got to do with the subject?
G.O. Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
What do you mean? Do you think that this started the end of January, 2009?
storky Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
“Do you think that this started the end of January, 2009?”
Not me! Industry’s been in a slump since 2002, but I’ll accept the assertion that the economy began the plunge in December 2007.
April 8th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Here is the master PDF research document on Geo-Engineering. All C.F.R. research material. Just wait until you read the bottom of page 13!
This is priceless research material for all Chem-Trail researchers.
http://www.mediafire.com/?em05njttjvy
April 8th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
VERY IMPORTANT!!! VERY IMPORTANT!!!
Here is an extremely valuable file folder with 8 PDFs in it all from the C.F.R., and all about the Geo-Engineering Chem-Trail Program, and also the Global Carbon Tax. Read page 13 of the PDF called:
‘The GeoEngineering Option Master CFR Expose On GeoEngineering and Global Carbon Tax’.
http://www.mediafire.com/?shar.....49b5870170
sandra Reply:
April 8th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
great info and thanks for sharing. let me warn you how serious they are about their ct project. go to stevequayle.com look under weatherwarfare first archive. that is my story. i have been constantly harassed since reporting well documented ct’s in the tampa bay area. phone hacked, chased on foot, son nearly nabbed, strange cell phone texts each time i pulled out of my garage, etc. i would do it again but it is scary. we are dealing with evil beyond belief. best to all of you pamela aka sandra in the story photos at uaff.us under chemtrails. NEVER EVER GIVE UP.
April 8th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
1st tell us about the ‘climate engineering’ that has already been done,
and the ‘climate engineering’ that is going on now.
We don’t need a NEW cover story ~
April 8th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Yes the skys are being sprayed. Last summer we had a checkerboard arrangement in the sky West to East and North to South. Lasted all day until it clouded up entirely.
April 8th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
http://www.mtshastanews.com/ar.....n-concerns
Here is the proper archived address for those would like to see actual article from Shasta News…
What ever the hell “their” agenda is, I don’t like and I don’t want it…
Educate those around you about this and ALL injustices going on in our great nation.
“When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident; that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.” … Thomas Jefferson
April 8th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
How can you tell the difference between chemtrails and contrails? I’d imagine that chemtrails contain chemicals that aren’t ordinarily present in jet turbine exhaust. So, what chemicals have been discovered and what are the concentrations?
April 8th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Here are the answers to the above questions:
1) ) A chemtrail will last anywhere from a 1/2 an hour to 2 or 3, finally spreading out in a milky hazing mess in the sky. A contrail should last anywhere from a few seconds to maybe a minute. You can go to Americanskywatch.com and see the difference. Also according to National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) meteorologist Thomas Schlatter. “the formation of condensation trails requires temperatures lower than about minus 76 F and humidity of 70 percent or more. Because the Federal Aviation Authority requires military tankers and transporters to cross continental airspace at altitudes below 30,000 feet, ensuring safe separation from airliners flying between 35,000 and 39,000 feet, these military flights should leave no contrails at all. See: http://earthislandinstitute.ne.....l_mystery/
2) Below is a guest opinion article printed in the Mt. Shasta Herald responding to the article published titled: Citizen Concern Lingers Over Aluminum In Water
CITIZENS SEEK ANSWERS TO ALUMINUM CONTAMINATION CONCERNS
Last year citizens from Siskiyou and Shasta Counties submitted water tests results to their city and county officials. These tests came from snow pack, rain and pond water samples taken in both counties. Basic Labs, a state certified lab in Redding, performed the testing. The citizens urged local governments to conduct their own water tests (costing no more than a hundred dollars for each county). If these tests produced similar results, then the citizens expected the proper agencies to be contacted to investigate the off-the-chart levels of aluminum showing up in their counties’ surface waters.
Of the three-dozen tests submitted, all showed near or over the MCL (maximum contaminate level) for aluminum in drinking water for the State of California. The following are some of the highest samples documented:
Snow pack sampled at Ski Bowl on Mt. Shasta tested for aluminum at 61,000 ug/L or 61 times the MCL. After 1-½ years of exposure to the atmosphere, a Shasta County pond (rubber lined) tested for aluminum at 375,000 ug/l or 375 times the MCL. This came as a surprise to the property owner because the pond tested “0” for aluminum when it was first filled and is in a “filtered location” (forested hilltop away from highway or industry). When a hydro-geologist was shown the tests, he stated, “unless you live near an Alcoa Aluminum plant, there is no way these types of metals (barium has also been detected) should be showing up in your pond or rainwater samples, in any quantity.” The Pit River sample tested at 4,610,000 ug/L, which is 4,610 times the MCL.
Aluminum and barium are considered highly toxic to humans, animals and plants. The accumulation factor of these metals should not be discounted. To ignore them, we do so at our own peril.
What we do know about aluminum in CA waters
Rosalind Peterson Co-founder of Agriculture Defense Coalition and former USDA Agriculture Crop Loss Adjustor, researched California State Department of Health Drinking Water data between 1984 and 2008. She has some compelling questions for our local and state officials:
1) “… Barium, Magnesium, Lead, Manganese, Aluminum, Iron, Sodium, and Specific Conductance (the ability of water to conduct a charge) were being found under unusual circumstances in our drinking water supplies. Unusual spikes were occurring in almost all drinking water sources in Mendocino County and in other counties throughout the State of California.”
2) “Prior to 1990, these spikes were not evident in many drinking water tests results (most tests results were -0-) … test results do show that in non-spike years these contaminants were not found in most water sources. Why?”
3) “And why are almost every single public drinking water source showing some form of this spike pattern? The California Air Resources Board Statewide Summary for Iron, Aluminum, Iron, Zinc, Manganese and Barium, also show positive air test results between 1989 and 2001. Our water test spikes appear to correlate strongly with California Air Quality test results. Why?”
We believe there is enough evidence to warrant an immediate investigation. Our federal, state and county water and air quality officials have a legal and moral responsibility to locate the sources of these contaminants and protect the public welfare. Until more people start to care, begin to speak up and put the necessary pressure upon local and state officials, our children, our loved ones, our animals and eco-systems will continue to be exposed to dangerously high levels of aluminum and other toxic contaminants.
We encourage everyone to do their own research and suggest the following links as a good place to start:
http://www.californiaskywatch.com/; http://americanskywatch.com; http://www.sciencedaily.com/se.....nd+drought
storky Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Complete and Utter NONSENSE!
“A contrail should last anywhere from a few seconds to maybe a minute.”
BULL! Contrails are persistent because the water vapor from the jet turbine exhaust freezes – they become clouds of ice particles. Ice doesn’t evaporate, it sublimates. The clouds are eventually dispersed by wind currents.
““the formation of condensation trails requires temperatures lower than about minus 76 F and humidity of 70 percent or more.”
BULL! Formation typically occurs at -40° and at any humidity where the water vapor contribution will lead to oversaturation. Lower temperatures and higher humidities contribute to the longevity of the trail.
“. . . military tankers and transporters to cross continental airspace at altitudes below 30,000 feet, . . ., these military flights should leave no contrails at all.”
BULL! Contrail formation starts around 26,000 feet and above – well below the altitudes where military aircraft fly.
Even prop-driven aircraft can create persistent contrails with low-pressure air turbulence off the tips of the propellers. Very cool and not at all suspicious.
storky Reply:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:21 am
“We believe there is enough evidence to warrant an immediate investigation. Our federal, state and county water and air quality officials have a legal and moral responsibility to locate the sources of these contaminants and protect the public welfare.”
I believe that too. So before making wackadoodle claims, find evidence that links these chemicals to intentional dispersion via aircraft. Determine what portion of the contaminants are the results of industrial emissions, geological sources and leachates.
Your assertions about contrail formation were factually flawed. The assertion here about the chemical pollution sources are completely useless without ant effort to trace the paths of the contaminants.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:42 am
“Few seem to realise that the present IPCC models predict almost unanimously that by 2040 the average summer in Europe will be as hot as the summer of 2003 when over 30,000 died from heat. By then we may cool ourselves with air conditioning and learn to live in a climate no worse than that of Baghdad now. But without extensive irrigation the plants will die and both farming and natural ecosystems will be replaced by scrub and desert. What will there be to eat? The same dire changes will affect the rest of the world and I can envisage Americans migrating into Canada and the Chinese into Siberia but there may be little food for any of them.” –Dr James Lovelock’s lecture to the Royal Society, 29 Oct. ‘07
“The alternative (to geoengineering) is the acceptance of a massive natural cull of humanity and a return to an Earth that freely regulates itself but in the hot state.” –Dr James Lovelock, August 2008
April 9th, 2009 at 10:28 am
I believe using artificial means to try and reflect the sunlight in the upper atmosphere is foolish and shortsighted. We spent decades trying to remove atmospheric pollutants. Now they want to re-introduce them?!
That’s just dumb.
Carbon sequestration is equally stupid.
Reduce the emissions at the source.
Prevent the destruction of and help restore natural carbon sinks.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Can’t we just stop with the madness already? What kind of “science adviser” is this? He sounds like a raving lunatic!
April 9th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
When global cooling was the climate emergency, plans were afoot to spread soot on the Arctic ice cap to absorb sunlight and artificially warm the planet (”The Cooling World”, Newsweek, April 28, 1975).
Fortunately, nothing was ever done to avert this impending catastrophe of global cooling. Then, with no assistance from mankind, the climate reversed temps all by itself. Or maybe post WWII industrial CO2 emissions kicked in, just in time. It’s funny how Mother Nature works. And government-science complex. And media-science complex. And the environmental-science complex.
Whether we were smarter back in 1975 than now remains to be seen. We’re getting close to finding out.