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Obama Win Will Not Change Rigged Economy
Ludicrous CNBC anchor tells economic expert “Gold has no inherent value”, describes dire financial warnings as “fun”
Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Tuesday, Nov 4, 2008
In an incredulous display of ignorance symptomatic of the underlying causes of the financial crisis, CNBC anchors laughed their way through an interview with respected economist Peter Schiff yesterday as he attempted to explain how an Obama presidency would negatively impact the U.S. economy.
Erin Burnett and Mark Haines of CNBC’s Squawk on The Street persistently interrupted Schiff, CEO of Euro Pacific Capital, barely allowing him to finish sentences or even complete thoughts as he sought to explain how ‘Obamanomics’ will not address the problems at the core of the crisis and will instead perpetuate them.
“If we have stronger Democratic control of congress, which certainly looks likely, I think that is going to make matters worse, because not only does it make it easier for Obama to get his agenda through, but it also makes it easier for the Congress to get their stuff through. There’s no checks and balances whatsoever.” Schiff explained.
“As an American I think it is a disaster. Not that I’m a big pro McCain supporter, I think McCain’s policies would also make the situation worse, but unfortunately, I think if we get Obama in there we get a much bigger mandate. When he comes into office, it’s going to be as if capitalism has been repudiated and the new mandate is that we need more government,” he continued.
“It wasn’t the free market, ” Schiff urged, referring to the cause of the economic crisis.
“Remember, if it wasn’t for the Federal Reserve, which is a government entity, keeping interest rates much too low, we never would have had a housing bubble, we never would have had a subprime market. If it wasn’t for Fannie and Freddie, which are creatures of government, we never would have had the moral hazard necessary to allow Americans to borrow more money than they can repay.” asserted Schiff, who served as an economic advisor to Congressman Ron Paul’s Presidential campaign earlier this year.
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Schiff attempted to explain how returning the economy to the way it was a few years ago, as Obama has promised to do, is not feasible because it was based on a bubble of borrowing and spending vast amounts of money.
“Getting Americans spending and borrowing again, as Obama has urged, is not the cure, it is the disease… He’s going to try and create bigger government, borrow a lot more money from foreigners, and spend it on government programs designed to encourage even more consumption, and of course, he is going to raise taxes…” Schiff urged.
Schiff then had to explain once more that he was not endorsing McCain by criticizing Obama, much to the confusion of the anchors who clearly struggled to stretch their imaginations beyond a right-left political paradigm.
“What you’re proposing is never going to fly politically,” Mark Haines spluttered, underlining perfectly how neither candidate in this election is offering any real change, and only represents a continuation of the entrenched and failed system of big government intervention.
Switching gears to talk of investment, Erin Burnett then made perhaps the most inane statement possible for a financial journalist;
“Gold has no inherent value, unlike oil which does. Gold only has any value in so far as I want to believe it has value.” she stated.
The fact that gold has maintained inherent value since the dawn of civilization seems to have washed over Ms Burnett, who clearly believes that paper money, essentially an IOU based on the perception of its worth, is more valuable than a rare and precious metal.
Peter Schiff attempted to interject and explain that Burnett’s logic was totally backwards, that it is fiat money that only has value as long as you want to believe it has, but the anchor simply spoke over the top of him commenting “This is a fun conversation”.
“It’s provocative if nothing else.” added Haines dismissively.
Watch the full cringe inducing exchange:
Schiff has repeatedly warned that America is on the brink of a long and deep recession, the root causes of which are continually being touted as solutions by both Presidential candidates. To describe his warnings as “fun” is astoundingly twisted.
Schiff is well respected amongst the major financial publications, primarily due to the fact that almost three years ago he accurately forecast that the U.S. housing market was a bubble that would soon come to bust, and also that the crisis would extend to the credit lending industry.
Perhaps if more people had listened to voices like his several years ago, instead of laughing at them, which as we have seen is still the case, then the economy would not be in such a dire mess today and we may have a presidential candidate who speaks of enacting change and actually means it.
Instead the so called free world is today lumbered with a choice of voting for a phony messiah or a dead duck, both representative of the fortified and irradicable Washington elite punch and judy show.
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November 4th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
i believe it should be “inherent” rather than “inerrant”. please fix the article.
thanks!
November 4th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Gold has no value LOL. Somebody is ignorant of over 6,000 years of human history.
November 4th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
I was your only chance. I am sorry America, that you allowed the media to put ideas in your head about me. I am dissappointed at how easily the media made you all believe, well most of you, that I was some kind of nutjob. I tried to warn you all of what was going to happen. I did my best under the circumstances, I just hope that one day, we can pull together and do the right thing for our nation.
November 4th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
“Inherent” is the word you are looking for, not “inerrant.” Good writeup, otherwise.
November 4th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Ron Paul is nut case, remove troops from south korea? Cut the budget to the energy department? Obama is the best choice. Right man, Right idea and Right time. Long live a strong central goverment!
November 4th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
“Erin Burnett then made perhaps the most inane statement possible for a financial journalist.” I wonder who she blew to get on that show.
Gold and other metals like silver are the only universally recognized store of value in all countries, even in primitive cultures. So to say it has no value is idiotic.
I roughly calculated that since 2000 gold has been going up at 15% a year on average. This is why our economy is dead. Why would anyone invest in anything else? Until interest rates become higher than the rate at which gold is climbing the economy will remain dead. People with money (or banks with taxpayer money) will hoard it in gold.
Also the problem with credit-default swaps and derivatives affecting balance sheet credibility will remain to further freeze credit and lending. Unless the government does something about this insolvency crisis besides throw money at it, which is just stupid, it will continue.
November 4th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
@sepftc HAHA. You are of course joking. Ron Paul would have brought all of our troops home instead of them protecting foreigners. What an utter waste of money.
Our Department of Energy! WHERE DO I START? What an utter disaster to have oil quadruple in price and they did nothing! NOTHING! And there is NOTHING in the Constitution of the United States of America mentioning energy so they don’t have any authority to regulate that. READ THE TENTH AMENDMENT AND THE 45TH NUMBER OF THE FEDERALIST!
Obama cannot even prove he is qualified to be a Presidential candidate. He has an alleged illegal drug past and he already has a trail of bodies from his own church. Then there is the mysterious Vera Baker. THIS IS THE BEST MAN FOR THE JOB? I strongly distrust him; he has liar written all over him. Obama is a nut case.
November 4th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
The ignorance of truth is really disheartening. I’ve watched them all day today, filing in to vote for Obama, the “Savior of America.” It’s like watching people sell themselves on the slave market.
November 4th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Peter Schiff has nailed it dead on for the last 3 years, the european GEAB also has been timely and accurate in their predictions, their latest prediction is that in summer of 2009 in GEAB N 28
EXCERPT—In this 28th edition of the GEAB, LEAP/E2020 has decided to launch a new global systemic crisis alert. Indeed our researchers anticipate that, before next summer 2009, the US government will default and be prevented to pay back its creditors (holders of US Treasury Bonds, of Fanny May and Freddy Mac shares, etc.). Of course such a bankruptcy will provoke some very negative outcome for all USD-denominated asset holders. According to our team, the period that will then begin should be conducive to the setting up of a « new Dollar » to remedy the problem of default and of induced massive capital drain from the US. The process will result from the following five factors studied in detail further in this GEAB:
• The recent upward trend of the US Dollar is a direct and temporary consequence of the collapse of stock markets
• Thanks to its recent « political baptism », the Euro becomes a credible « safe haven » value and therefore provides a « crisis » alternative to the US dollar
• The US public debt is now swelling uncontrollably
• The ongoing collapse of US real economy prevents from finding an alternative solution to the country’s defaulting
• « Strong inflation or hyper-inflation in the US in 2009? », that is the only question.
November 4th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
some “changes” Obama will make: Change Fathers Day to Baby Daddy Day. The word “Ask” will be replaced by the word “axe”, if you haven’t already switched. (Many of “you People” already have.)
November 4th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Same old racist rhetoric by some on the board. We will united as a county under Barack Hussein Obama.
November 4th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Only Ron Paul who I vote as a write in today offered any real change we all know that. The problem is the fiat money printed by the Federal Reserve. The last President who printed money that was not backed by the Federal Reserve did so in June of 1963 and was dead by November 22, 1963 and the Federal Reserve was back printing money by December 1963. Any president attempting similar changes would probably meet with a similar fate.
November 4th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
P.S. The definition of a recession is when your neighbors are out of work. The definition of a depression is when you’re out of work.
November 4th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
What Peter Schiff says is so true and right on time. Read a book for once…Crash Proof by P. Schiff was written at the end of 2006 before the crap hit the fan another good book “Creature from Jekyll Island” about what the Federal (not Federal BTW) Reserve is really about. Stop drinking the kool aid of MSM and the gov’t. WAKE UP PEOPLE!! We are going into Martial Law…this is a topic brought up in gov’t meetings as a scenario for whatever is discussed. take it from one who works and lives in DC!!! Welcome to the USSA.
November 4th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Its gone…
November 4th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
I CAN’T BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE ARE THE WAY THEY ARE. LOOK AT THE WAY THE MAJORITY OF THE MCCSIN/REPUBLICAN PARTIE TALK
some “changes” Obama will make: Change Fathers Day to Baby Daddy Day. The word “Ask” will be replaced by the word “axe”, if you haven’t already switched. (Many of “you People” already have.)
HOW IGNORANT AND HATEFUL
SHAME ON YOU
I WOULDN’T VOTE FOR ANYONE YOU SUPPORT WITH YOUR BALLOT
JUST LIKE THE LADY WHO WOULDN’T GIVE THE CHILDREN CANDY IF THEY DIDNT CHOOSE MCCAIN
HOW IGNORANT AND HATEFUL
SHAME ON YOU
I WOULDN’T VOTE FOR ANYONE YOU SUPPORT WITH YOUR BALLOT NEITHER
GET LOVE IN YOUR LIFE AND YOU MIGHT NOT BE SO IGNORANT AND HATEFUL
November 4th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Someone pinch me.
Watching people so eagerly scamper out to vote for a puppet that says he wants to appropriate more money in taxes, disarm the populace and continue (even broaden) the wars that have been blatantly initiated for private profit leaves me quite dumfounded.
While McCain is also a puppet and any vote for any candidate is a vote in support of the criminal system that rules your lives, the sheer unadulterated foolishness of the drones that are racing out to vote would be comical if it weren’t so tragic.
In a few generations time, people will look back at the modern voting ritual in America in a similar way that we look back at those in the Middle Ages that tried to cure illness by chasing away demons.
Criminals run your society and all you have to do to dissolve their power is to stop using their money. The money is the control mechanism that keeps all of us economically enslaved. When we stop using the currency that they supply to us, the Federal Reserve will dissolve and the politicians they employ will be out of a job.
Don’t fight the system:
Replace it
http://socialviability.com/boycott.html
November 4th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Were parts edited out of that video? Maybe it was just me but it looked like they cut some of Schiffs statements out.
November 4th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Listen to the trustworthy mass media…gold has no “value”…and statements about the downfall of we the people is “fun”!
Time to invest in cat food…or Alpo, the new legal tender.
November 4th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
I’m just so happy that the mainstream properly prepared me for this. Heck, if it weren’t for all the black quarterbacks, black hockey players, black golfers, and white women kissing black men on TV, I’d never be able to handle it.
November 4th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Is this real ? I am awake aren’t I ?
November 4th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
I watched this live.. still shaking my head
November 4th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
This article states that the Federal Reserve is a Government Entity?
November 4th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
i know what you mean, wez. we are living through this. crazyy shyt.
November 4th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
and we’re gonna live through what’s about to go down
November 4th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
My sources tell me of a scenario in play: Bush reveals Obama is really a natural born citizen of Kenya, which is an easily proven fact. A fact that McCain should have exposed, which proves McCain is in on what’s coming down. Bush denies the presidency to Obama which is why Bush already has troops deployed all over this country, to control the riots caused by this. Second scenario in play is; the flu shot is contaminated with Bird Flu. Millions will soon die. Bush declares marshall law and becomes dictator of the New World Order. I pray to God my sources are wrong. May God have mercy on us all.
November 4th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Charles maybe A.J. is banging on Obama because he is surrounded by CFR (Checkout James Perloff’s “Shadows of Power”), Bilderberg Group, and Trilateral members such as Zbigniew Brzezinski (his top advisor) and Richard Holbrooke. Joe Biden = change? He will fill his cabinet with CFR members. Study people surrounding Barack. Going to move out of Iraq? No promise to get it done in 4 year term & wants to go into Afganistan to finish up. Rises taxes in a recession is purely idiotic. Obamas voting record proves he does not take his oathe (contract with we the people) to support the constitution seriously and as a constitutional professor he should know better. Ron Paul would have made me happy!
November 4th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Charles:
I believe that Obama and his wife are members of the CFR.
Required:
That’s correct. The Federal Reserve IS NOT a Federal Agency and
has NO reserves. It is a Private Bank that uses Goldinsacks as its
holding company.
November 4th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Too true. The agenda is already in full swing. Read Ronald Weinlands free online books and check out the book of Enoch, written for us, now. All 144,000 of us shall deal with these demonic troops on Pentecost 2012. Pray, prepare and know that our future is beautiful. With love, the remnant of Yahwey……………………….
November 5th, 2008 at 12:11 am
Dictator – Tyrant NObama has been elected for most likely by rigged election. Bilderberg has got their ball rolling in motion…. because to many Americans drink too much kool-aid. Hmm cant wait for the next govt staged terror attack. The thought that a Bilderberg puppet has been elected scares the hell out of me. *Lock N Load* be safe all.
November 5th, 2008 at 1:29 am
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=aBNuQGudgf4
November 5th, 2008 at 2:30 am
I love what you guys are doing, but you don’t THINK before you make allegations, and it completely puts the rest of the things you say which are ACCURATE into disrepute.
You guys are a bunch of f-ing LOSERS, sometimes. Bilderberg, this and Illuminati, that.
Barack Obama raised over 800 million dollars in donations over the internet! 75% of his donations came from contributors who gave LESS than 100 dollars! People who gave 10 dollars and 5 dollars whenever they had the money to spare.
This was a grassroots MOVEMENT. You conspiracy theory losers need to get that through your tiny little heads before you end up like McCain and Palin. McCain couldn’t figure Obama out and neither can you guys.
Stop with this Bilderberg crap. Why is he Bilderberg? Because ONE of his foreign policy advisers is high up in Biderberg? Big deal. Why? Because he spoke at one of their meetings? Big deal!
That’s like saying someone is Chinese because they eat at a Chinese restaurant 5 days a week.
Use your heads for once.
That’s my two cents.
I’m outta here.
November 5th, 2008 at 2:47 am
Milo Scagnetti Obama is supported by large corporations or he would not not have been given the go ahead on mainstream media. Sure it is a plus that regular people supported him financially, but that doesn’t change the fact that the Rothschilds and etc. support him. If any one needs to wake up its you. Go back to Huntington Post where they censure all comments for the best image on the net!!!!
November 5th, 2008 at 3:39 am
While I do believe that Obama’s plans and thoughts are truly from the heart, we need to look at the facts. First off, the Federal Reserve is not a government entity at all. It is privately owned, and always has been. The owners of which happen to be key members, along with many government officials, media giants, as well as the wealthiest and most powerful people in the world, are all members of the CFR. Every economic crisis, along with faked terror attacks, global wars with hidden agends unknown to most of the globe, assassinations, etc, are all planned well in advance. Now, just like JFK and all the good he would probably have loved to accomplish, there are powers greater than the president making all the calls. And while I, myself, did get wrapped up in the possibility that Obama may be what this country needs, finding out many things, for example Colin Powell (CFR member) was backing him, started to make me feel ill as I realized that whatever events transpired during the coming administration were still, as has always been, going to be as a result of the decisions made by the same damn group of assholes that have deteriorated not only our country, but others around the world. And, not all Americans are bad, and to group every one of us together is the most closed minded thought process that you can have. Just because we all live on the same chunk of land doesnt make us all the same. And if the Europeans think they have the right to bitch & moan, how do you like your EU? All of your countries got screwed over & duped too. It doesnt matter where you are from, we’re all gonna have to deal with the same bs from the same bunch of rich, powerful douche bags. And unless the majority of the globe opens its eyes and sees things for how they really our, we’re all screwed. So pray to whatever God you worship, as the human race is gonna need an f’n miracle to survive.
November 5th, 2008 at 3:56 am
Yeah #34….$800 million to apply for a job that pays $400k. And $800 billion more of our money to bail out his new boss. Did you bother to watch his Senate floor speech in support of a bill that was opposed by EVERYBODY? Of course not. You were busy being bamboozled by the incessant name dropping, image planting, and unsubstantiated claims for ‘change’. If it wasn’t for the mainstream media, this guy would be toast and you would have never heard of his sorry, inexperienced ass. This election was decided FOR you. And until you get THAT part, you will just keep being led around by your inept nose.
November 5th, 2008 at 5:12 am
“Remember, if it wasn’t for the Federal Reserve, which is a government entity, keeping interest rates much too low, we never would have had a housing bubble, we never would have had a subprime market. ”
Um.. Mr. Schiff… you are an idiot. The Federal Reserve is a private bank with no government oversight and secret shareholders like the Lehman family.
What caused the bubble is the big banks and it was planned as a way to clean out the poor of their down payment and their property. Problem is they jacked the price of gas up too fast and that made too many lose their jobs at once and the banks could not cover their bets until the big payday came in or so they claimed. So, the taxpayer got ripped off for a trillion bucks to keep the banks going until they can sell the homes to someone else. If the bailout was really to help out the homeowner, they could have just given the money to these people and it would have been more than enough to pay for the homes and the banks get their worthless money back – done deal.
It was all about making sure that the poor did not own their own homes which gives them a way out of poverty over time.
November 5th, 2008 at 5:19 am
I agree with Jason because he’s right about the Federal Reserve. It’s not a government entity and never has been. The federal government has never audited the Federal Reserve’s accounting books. For Peter Schiff to call it a government entity tells me he’s in on the effort to keep the misinformation flowing. You can’t possibly have been involved for so long with economics and still believe that the Federal Reserve is an entity of, or part of, the government. In reality it’s the greatest economic scam ever produced and used. Henry Gonzalez knew this as does Ron Paul and Milton Friedman. Read “The Creature from Jekyll Island”. There is no point treating the symptoms of our economy when the disease is fraud as the foundation of the whole system.
November 5th, 2008 at 7:12 am
The only thing that gives gold, paper, or anything else value is plutonium. Before that it was gunpowder. And before that it was steel, and before that it was stone.
November 5th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
um look i agree with all this i do not agree with obama and am only for ron paul but this article is somehow skewed. i really cant see how are calling him crazy or pushing him around. i say this after watching many videos (a few bill o reily) that actually are like that. i mean even the girl in the beginning was very understanding and if anything he overpowered her in that he was stressing that he was not for mccain. i mean once again you can get emotional and argue with me but i would just have to think that your perception is somehow skewed because i dont want to argue i agree with obama being a bad choice.
whats with this anyways i expected to hear him getting literally laughed and actually insultingly cut off every second but the few lines in the article that mention anyone saying anything (reporter wise) is really all they said. i mean yes you can cherry pick one or two but he really did a lot of talking i like how the interview went. all im saying is compare this to fox news or bill o reily interviews and youll see this as highly benign.
the anchor even sais (after barely saying a little less then a sentence in the beginning) that he agrees with much of what he sais but only acknowledges the sad truth that it probably wont fly politically. i mean why isnt this qoute in there i know this article is trying to paint a bad picture against obama and screw it go ahead i really dont care in the end and think everyone should think that obama is going to destroy this country but this really was a fair discussion it really makes you wonder if the author even saw it.
dont get me wrong i am very adament when the media is being completley incompetent and hate it in every way but i refuse to be a fool and get worked up over something that was extremley fair. heck i find wrong in everything and there was not really anything wrong there.
oh and if milo scagnetti ever reads this/gets this far then its just wierd to try and prove a point and insult someone at the same time emotions get the better of everyone and will make both people incompetent in the end. who even reads these articles and hates it its like there are people just looking to pick fights with others.
November 6th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
HEY..FOR KICKS AND GIGGLES, WATCH THIS NEWS CAST OUT OF INDIANAPOLIS. THE OBAMA POLL WORKERS CAME TO GET THEIR PAY…AND ARE UP SET BECAUSE THEY DIDNT GET WHAT HE OWED THEM..GUY SAYS IN THE VIDEO..”I WORKED FOR 9 HOURS..AND THEY ONLY PAID ME FOR HALF THAT!” HAHAAH WELCOME TO WHAT YOU ASKED FOR BUD..SHARIN THE WEALTH!! “PRICELESS!”
http://www.wthr.com/global/story.asp?s=9299280
November 7th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Well. It is NOt only the House Bubble and goverment spending, the DEEP CAUSE
of the Economic CRISIS of our country. They are, a super-structural apparence of the problem. The sintoms are result of more inner and complicated realities
We assit to the CONVULSION of the structural CAPITALISM System ( in it’s ultimate
fase of development : Imperialism ). It will Not be , for now , the last yet.
The concentration of wealth in a handfull of people ( capitalists) who made their millions
profiting from Interest ,Bonus and dividend WITHOUT creating or producing any REAL
VALUE in the GDP. And the vast majority of the population ( workers-proletarians ) who
CREATE and ADD REAL VALUE ( Agregated value /Plusvalue) but make their living with
poor salaries and low WAGES…
Its THE SYSTEM STUPID! . PRIVATIZE PROFITS to one SOCIAL CLASS and SOCIALIZE
the LOSSES to the rest of the population ( low or Midddle class).
The SUB-PRIME and LOW INTEREST are only SYNTOMS and instrument to an ECONOMIC POLICY to benefits the EXE-CUTIVES of BIG CORPORATIONS who at this STAGE of the
Capitalism manipulate the OLD principles ( free markets, free competions etc) BUT are
no longer VALID because we live a World controled by Multinational CORPORATIONS.
Let’s take a look to the NEW FINANCIAL PRODUCTS ” invented ” by savvy CAPITALISTS
” CREDIT DEFAULT SWAPS” ” Commercial papers” “expeculative Bond insurances” ” Hedge
Funds ” etc etc… All of them CREATED a FALSE ILUSION of Trilllion of Dollars profits to
Corporations that REDISTRIBUTE all the wealth to their EXECUTIVES , Investors and class.
Now, WE the TAXPAYERS will pay for this PARTY… It is the System & the Bible stupid !!!…..
November 11th, 2008 at 10:38 am
#43 Are you an American or from Peru? You are too intelligent to be from the USA. I agree wholeheatedly. The problem however is what is wrong with “the system,” and what is good. Markets, free enterprise, these are good, but capitalism – the free investment of money for profit is parasitic & wrong. The trade system must be about things sold that are made, produced, and that can even be management “services.” Investment money = most profitable when “workers” (aka human beings) are exploited maximum, therefore business investment credit in a free market must be socialized. Also: land must be distributed, it falls outside of the productive economy, land is not “produced,” therefore does not belong under a trade “paradigm.” Then managerial power: fine if you build up a company with your own hands, but after that if it is has many ppl working there, it must go over in their hands because they are human beings and not things. That way you get the good stuff from free markets, minus the bad stuff from capitalism, IMHO.
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