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Open Letter to Rachel Maddow on Obama, Brzezinski and 9/11 Conspiracy
Erik Larson
9/11 Reports
Wednesday, June 10, 2009
Ms. Maddow,
I saw the bit on MSNBC with your guest Zbigniew Brzezinski:
Hypocrite Brzezinski Slams “Conspiratorial View” Of History While Highlighting 50’s Iran Overthrow
Perhaps you haven’t examined the official myth about 9/11, i.e. that it was accomplished solely by Al Qaeda and Bin Laden. Given that Obama made a claim and didn’t back it up with any facts- while admitting that elements in the US and Britain conspired to overthrow Mossadegh a half century ago- it’s kind of a misnomer to say he “debunked” “9/11 conspiracists”. And given the many lies told by Bush Administration principals about 9/11, and given the 9/11 Commission’s failure to conduct a full and honest investigation- who’s to say what really happened on 9/11?
The 9/11 Commission ignored 70% of the 9/11 families’ questions
And your employer, MSNBC, published a report that says 25% of the 9/11 Commission Report, including the sections most relevant to linking 9/11 to al Qaeda and Bin Laden, was based on testimony obtained by torture:
9/11 Commission controversy – MSNBC
“Specifically, the NBC News analysis shows 441 of the more than 1,700 footnotes in the Commission’s Final Report refer to the CIA interrogations. Moreover, most of the information in Chapters 5, 6 and 7 of the Report came from the interrogations. Those chapters cover the initial planning for the attack, the assembling of terrorist cells, and the arrival of the hijackers in the U.S. In total, the Commission relied on more than 100 interrogation reports produced by the CIA. The second round of interrogations sought by the Commission involved more than 30 separate interrogation sessions.”
The 9/11 Commission is also based in part on the testimony of interested parties who made false statements and whose testimony is contradicted by facts, the testimony of more credible witnesses, and even by their own statements; Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Gen. Richard Myers, etc. You should search the profiles of these people in this timeline, which is based entirely on mainstream sources: Complete 9/11 Timeline
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Also search the profiles of whistleblowers the 9/11 Commission ignored- like Sibel Edmonds, Behrooz Sarshar, Robert Wright and Coleen Rowley (Time Magazine 2002 Person of the Year)
You had Brzezinksi on your show- why don’t you interview Sibel Edmonds? The ACLU has dubbed her “the most gagged person in US history”; Ashcroft even classified her date of birth- he claimed “state secrets” and the need to protect “certain foreign business relations”:
Public Letter to 9/11 Commission Chairman from FBI Whistleblower by Sibel Edmonds – CommonDreams.org
On 60 Minutes in 2002 Sen. Charles Grassley called her “very credible” and said the FBI “needs to be turned upside down”:
Lost in Translation – CBS News
In October 2007 Ms. Edmonds made this offer:
And the London Times published this 3-part series, based on interviews with Sibel Edmonds and their own investigation:
For sale: West’s deadly nuclear secrets
FBI denies file exposing nuclear secrets theft
Tip-off thwarted nuclear spy ring probe
Why don’t you interview Ms. Edmonds? You would probably learn a lot about how little credibility the Official Conspiracy Theory has. Plus, doing so would boost your ratings- and your credibility- far more than softball interviews with war criminals like Brzezinski:
Zbigniew Brzezinski: How Jimmy Carter and I Started the Mujahideen -
Interview of Zbigniew Brzezinski Le Nouvel Observateur (France), Jan 15-21, 1998, p. 76* – reprinted in CounterPunch.org
Sincerely,
Erik Larson
PS- This peer-reviewed paper published April 2009 in a refereed journal has been attacked, but has yet to be “debunked”- or even “rebutted”- in a refereed journal:
Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe – Open Chemical Physics Journal
Don’t you think Americans should be told the truth about how nanothermite got in the World Trade Center dust?
PPS- A NY Times-CBS poll in 2006 found that only 16% of Americans think the Bush Administration is telling the truth about “what they knew prior to September 11th, 2001, about possible terrorist attacks against the United States”
Are you one of the 16%, Ms. Maddow? And even if you are, don’t you agree Americans deserve a REAL 9/11 investigation- one that examines ALL the relevant evidence- so we can put an end to the “conspiracy theories”?
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June 10th, 2009 at 5:52 am
Anyone whose livelihood depends on one of the big US corporations knows better than to question the official 9-11 story.
Reconmarine Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 10:20 am
WRONG-
Anyone with half a brain knows the collective conspiracy theories are complete bullshit and completely impossible.
1) Anyone who has read more then a minute into the 9/11 attacks knows the high jackers and Al Qaeda members who supported them were assisted by the Pakistani ISI and elements within the Saudi Royal family and government. Nobody knows exactly how much and what types of assistance were given. The possibilities are unlimited. Guns, radios, explosives, people on the ground guiding planes to targets unguarded (Pentagon), technical assistance in tracking equipment manipulation/destruction, etc. Endless possibilities.
2) The FIRST person to out George W Bush and the republicans IF the evidence was there, would be Rachel Maddow and friends at MSNBC. The problem is, every single piece of “evidence” the truthers, you guys, have is either a lie, manipulated facts based on half truths, or pure speculation.
3) YOU GUYS provide links that DEBUNK your own theories. The “complete 9/11 time line” shows you everything you need to know about 9/11 and how it went down. If you read Sibel Edmonds interviews you will see there were and still are SPIES working fro and in our government and who manipulate their jobs to facilitate their own countries interests, BUT, that 9/11 was carried out by Al Qaeda. All you have top do is read the content of your OWN links above…
4) Most importantly, NONE of your theories make sense……At all
If Bush and Cheney wanted to take out Iraq way before 9/11 and they also did 9/11, then why the FUCK wouldn’t they implicate Iraq?????
If thermate was used, which is physically impossible, why would they use it? Why not use something that IF discovered, could be traced back to Al Qaeda? It doesn’t make sense to be so tactically proficient in some areas and then be careless and negligent in others.
Why would “they” implicate the Saudis and the ISI if they had zero interest in doing anything to them about it? We know why UBL stacked the high jacker teams with so many Saudis, but if your theories were true, why wouldn’t they use Iraqis or Iranians?
To say, “well, they didn’t need Iraqis involved in the attacks to use 9.11 to get support for invading Iraq” is completely stupid. If they had “proof” Iraq or Iraqis were involved in 9/11, something they searched all over the world to find links of, then no matter how shitty things in Iraq get or got while Bush was in office, they could have always justified our presence with sighting their involvement in 9/11…But they didn’t…..
So, they were able to fool the worlds leading super powers but they were not able to fool the college drop out conspiracy theorists with the self titled name “the truth movement” and 8 washed up politically motivated “scientists”……
Were the 9/11 perps extremely clever and proficient or were they sloppy and untactical?
you joke! Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 10:26 am
what about “Paul Wolfowitz girlfriend” Recon? amaze us with your stunning logic,LOL. and they “implicate” the Saudis to blackmail them into supporting the wars dumbass. same reason they “implicate” the ISI. you fell for it. not exactly a deep thinker are you Reconmarine? and dumbaass, Bush Cheney are front men, Cheney slightly higher on the totem pole than Bush sut still a puppet himself. you are not thinking widely enough and you only think arabs were involved when they were merely the puppets(the “hijackers” were manipulated by western intelligence, not marine grunts like you dumbass).
reconmarine Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
My point about Paul wolfowitzs girlfriend is, why would someone capable of pulling off 9/11 or being a part of it, not be able to get his GF a job without getting fired?
As far as Saudis and the ISI. BULLSHIT! In both cases they could slam the things you call “FACTS” in the American medias face and they would be forced to cover it. Bribery? From the country with the most oil and the other with Taliban style leaders with Nukes? Do you know what you are talking about or are you just rambling>?
I dont think your truly understand the lack of logic your comments contain.
I think you should start over.
MORON MARINE^^^^^^^^^^^ Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
first, just because wolfoshit was PNAC doesnt mean we all think he was “involved” directly. second, what the fuck does 9/11) have to do with getting somebody a job at the World Bank? not a fucking thing. its HILARIOUS to see you try and make something out of that though, it makes no fucking sense but its hilarious. and uh, dumbass, theres already been at least one hiugh ranking ISI general who said Israel/CIA elements did 9/11, the media all but ignored it. you have no clue about geopolitics or how the media works you gullible tool.
scott Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 11:11 am
reconqueen,
well lets see what we have on the bush administrations side of things for evidence outside the 4 buildings being down and what appear to be planes hitting two of them
waterboard confessions
attorney ted olsen a forest gump who ends a key figure in so many aspects of history (clinton whitewater, attorney on bush v gore, primary cover story for 911)
Ted Olson’s Lies on 9-11 Calls from Wife Barbara
by DAVID RAY GRIFFIN
Late in the day on 9/11, CNN put out a story that began: “Barbara Olson, a conservative commentator and attorney, alerted her husband, Solicitor General Ted Olson, that the plane she was on was being hijacked Tuesday morning, Ted Olson told CNN.”
According to this story, Olson reported that his wife had “called him twice on a cell phone from American Airlines Flight 77,” saying that “all passengers and flight personnel, including the pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by armed hijackers. The only weapons she mentioned were knives and cardboard cutters.”2
Ted Olson’s report was very important. It provided the only evidence that American 77, which was said to have struck the Pentagon, had still been aloft after it had disappeared from FAA radar around 9:00 AM (there had been reports, after this disappearance, that an airliner had crashed on the Ohio-Kentucky border).
Also, Barbara Olson had been a very well-known commentator on CNN. The report that she died in a plane that had been hijacked by Arab Muslims was an important factor in getting the nation’s support for the Bush administration’s “war on terror.
reconmarine Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Yeah scott, without Barbara Olson, nobody would have ever heard about 9/11……..
scott Reply:
June 11th, 2009 at 8:00 am
no, recon, but they would never have heard about boxcutters without her miracle calls
Rocky Mountain Rebel Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Hey retardmarine, i asked you before to explain the look of NO surprise on GWB’s face, Attas perfect passport, NO video from ANY of the 85 Pentagon cameras, the TINY hole in the wall, Urban Moving Systems, the stock market winners. Hey soldierwannabe, ask your buddy Maj. Rick Gibney about flight 93, NO video of the 19 boarding the planes, NO names on the flight list, the Jew prime minister saying 9/11 was good for israel, the “Dancing jews”, another Bush in charge of Tower security. Should i go on? NO demotions or dismissals, 2.3 trillion dollars missing and NO one cared, Airlines flying a handful of passengers with no care about losing money…….. Well what’s your reply TROLL?
reconmarine Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
1) GW’s face. only he can explain that
2) Attas passport? The Columbia shuttle re-entered in a 10,000 degree fireball going over 2000MPH and look at this—http://www.911myths.com/html/burlingame_and_mascal.html
3)Bushs bro was NOT ever in charge of the security company you are referring to, securacom. They did ELECTRONIC security for the towers up until 2000 and he only sat on the board….
4)There are over 425 witnesses who saw the high jackers and passengers board the 4 planes. People who rode the prior flights with some of the high jackers that AM, and video and pictures of them going through security. The pictures and videos match those same men in the martyr videos. Have you had a chance to see those or compare them to the security video footage? Let me know if you need links buddy.
5)Who gives a fuck if Jews danced when they saw 9/11 happen. They were happy that we were going to finally get off our asses, like we should have when they killed our people in the Kobar towers, our Marines in the Beruit barracks, our sailors in the USS Cole, our soldiers in Somalia, our citizens in the African embassies, etc, etc. If those Jews were involved in 9/11, then they would have been out of sight by the time the attacks went down, they wouldn’t jump up and down, literally, and draw attention to themselves. That makes ZERO tactical sense and you can’t accuse them to be tactically proficient and incompetent at the same time. It doesn’t fly.
6) your “no names on the flight list” BULLSHIT originates from a CNN Victim list. They don’t include the TERRORISTS on the VICTIM list. Next time you go to DC, tell me if the North Vietnamese soldiers names are on the wall….or does that mean they don’t exist?
7) Rumsfields comments about the missing money was in reference to the CLINTON admin not keeping records of annual military expenditures. He was saying they are going to do things differently to stop spending so much for unaccounted fro items. The exact OPPOSITE of they ended up doing after 9/11. Did you read or listen to the speech or did you just repeat something you read on a 9/11 truth site? Dont answer.
8)The tiny hole in the Pentagon- Debunkiing conspiracy theories isn’t reason enough to release pictures of the people in the pentagon and on flight 77 dying. The passengers, luggage, the high jackers, and 95% of the plane was recovered from the wreckage. Look at the photo and video evidence submitted in the Zacharias mousouie trial if you need to see the bodies yourself. Over 200 people saw flight 77. 2 said they saw a smaller plane and ZERO said they saw a missile or global hawk. Not that a missile could pass as an airliner anywhere in the world, unless your attacking the special Olympics.
soldiers are in the Army, I was in the marine corps.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Just remember those were real people who died, real terrorists that committed the act and you owe them the respect of being honest in your search for the truth
Thats my reply
card51short Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Dude i’m scared about this guy…he types PARAGRAPHS for hours online every single day with people he thinks are insane.
reconmarine…we all believe you…government loves us and wants what is best…wacky guys in the desert with AK-47’s are our only threat and they are coming to get us ANY DAY now. You should be fighting the evil JIHAD soldiers who are threatening our way of life with every passing moment.
What are you doing online all day talking with conspiracy nuts? JIHAD IS COMING!!!11111
hahahaa
reconmarine Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
would it make you feel better if nobody challenged your fairy tale theories regarding 9./11?
It doesn’t take me hours to type a paragraph
Artyom Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
recon, that’s exactly why I like you. You are challenging people. Though saying the official story is true, I think, is complete Lunacy. Just as some of the stupid stories I heard about holograms, lasers, UFO’s, Bigfoot’s stinky bottom(added that one), all being the cause of the disaster. YouTube is inundated with these crazy ideas that not one shred of proof is behind it. It has seriously damaged any drive for answers. However, I don’t expect the government to relinquish information because it is power to them and they won’t share power. The people who believe there is foul play can’t get any more proof except for the videos. That leaves everything left to average people as circumstantial evidence. I can say the Pentagon was hit by a missle, but I can’t prove it. However, I can say they showed only a few frames that were cut out by a professional which is obvious. There were many security cameras had views of that site and all were confiscated. I don’t question you being a Marine. I know you blew stuff up, as I, and would understand what is left and how aircraft, tanks, cars, and all look after being blown up or wrecked. I know what was at the Pentagon was not an airliner. Nor was a visible wreckage Pennsylvania. In Pennsylvania, it may have been only part of the wreckage. Though a tale section, wing, or other part that would break off, would fail to make a small deep hole and only leave the seating material with scraps of aluminum from the plane. Even after saying this, I can’t prove ANYTHING!!!! Witnesses heard bombs, but would a falling piece of marble in a huge enclosed space not make a very loud reverberating noise? People can question them even if their question is only to discredit, the witness is a weak piece of evidence as they were an experience that is easily manipulated through suggestion. Such is memory! Common Sense, when you watch each event unfold tells something else. And sometimes Fact is crazier than Fiction.
In short. Those who control history control the future.
June 10th, 2009 at 6:16 am
This is a great letter. The pressure to re-examine 9/11 continues to steadily build and there are way too many ‘loose ends’ in the official story to be ignored forever. I hope it’s proper investigation and subsequent findings that it was an inside job can be the starting point to real change that is so badly needed, not to mention how great it would be to catch the real criminals who would do such a thing and are as of yet still free and threatening the world with more ‘terror’. Yes, I’m looking at you Dick Cheney.
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June 10th, 2009 at 7:56 am
If the bitch were to go public about 9/11 being a false flag operation she’d be off the air the next day. What needs to happen is that people need to stop watching the mainstream media’s garbage.
Hammer Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Maddow is the Karate Kid, post operaterive transexual. That or HE just tucks.
June 10th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Oh oh. Someone started Questioning Authority and going about Looking For Answers, instead of believing What They Were Told. You’re not supposed to look under the covers! Naughty naughty!
The mind control is still working good though so Congress will do nothing.
June 10th, 2009 at 8:56 am
Maddow is a hack. a friggin supposed genius who cant see the forest for the trees and stays couped up in the phony left/right box like a slave.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:12 am
OK… here’s my beef:
A) Dave is right. They control the Media.
B) You are right. There is a cover-up and government collusion, (i.e. The New Great Game)
C) The other conspiracy theories you believe in discredit the above facts, because credibility is a factor is judging the truth of facts that cannot be yet proven, and keeps them on pages like this alone. You cannot prove a crime, but you can prove inconsistencies, and deceptions, and that’s enough I agree, but when the term “NWO” comes on the page, the public instantly turns off. The battle for the definition of the term “New World Order,” is done and settled; “it’s the crazy talk of conspiracy theorists.” I’m not saying that’s right, but there is so much more you could all do to reform the argument to hit them where it hurts. Actually the FBI and corruption tie in here are great for that, but its all for not because the “Frame” here is contaminated by the NWO Frame, and is thus trumped. If someone goes to research your claim here they will soon find talk of other topics they are no where near accepting, and will drop their inquiry.
So here are the simple facts, as I have known them:
People with BIG BIG BIG money afraid to loose it, bribe everyone they can think of to get what they think they need to stay on top of their hill.
In the international theatre this is “The Great Game.”
Every clue you all collect to connect it all to aliens, antichrists and satanic worship is in reality your unwitting participation in a disinformation campaign designed to discredit what credible facts of corruption there are, by including “information” that most people will not accept as legitimate, and therefore make an ad hominem judgment against you, and the whole idea of conspiracies.
You can watch, “Orwell Rolls In His Grave,” to see how Cognitive Science, and the use of ‘Frames’ is letting them control the public opinion… without MKULTRA.
All they really needed was a little deregulation of the FCC. (and allot of $$$)
I’m not saying some don’t have extremest, even criminal religious views. It’s just not helping sell the basic facts:
There is BIG BIG BIG corruption in our government (that extends into all the world), and we all need to have the courage to route it out, wherever it may lead, with an open mind, without the emotional bias of things like faith, and race, and nationalism.
Good Luck, and Peace Be.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Ms. Maddow who is supposed to be oh-so-smart, sat on one of those foolish programs and did not check the host when he trashed President Hugo Chavez calling him all sorts of predictable names. She just sat there smugly grinning as if she is so superior. If the so-called smart people are so ignorant-what can I say except I listen to nothing she has to say.
Artyom Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 10:29 am
If you want to hear something other than the Western Agenda, you’d have to move to a country outside their influence. Since the US has military presence in 138 nations out of the 192 registered at the UN, your pickings will be slim.
bobby Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
That “military presence” of the vast majority of the 132 countries you state (more like 150) is due to personnel stationed at US embassies and consulates. Just like the foreign troops stationed in foreign embassies on US soil.
We have actual bases about 3 dozen countries, and maybe use of facilities in a couple dozen more.
I doubt that the 50 troops in Russia, 20 in Venezuela, or 10 in Syria are doing much influence.
Artyom Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
It is more than embassies, but you actual presence on bases or co-ops with other nation’s militaries. US embassies aren’t counted, they don’t consider Russia and China the nations even though they host US military for various reasons.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/i.....p;aid=5564
Also interesting Interactive Map
http://www.motherjones.com/military-maps
The map states Azerbaijan doesn’t have more than 5 troops, but I have read they have a different radar base pointed North installed on the territory and also have soldiers stationed near a pumping station. My point is a lot goes unaccounted for. There are actual US bases in 60 countries. Those are the ones verified. Other countries don’t want people to know due to politics. The people may be very upset to learn about it and would not reelect the ruling party.
US military can hidden from bean counters by being stationed on a foreign base. There are many co-ops. To state small numbers of soldiers are useless, don’t tell that to the Green Berets.
Russia, Syria, Venezuala are always the aggressors in Western Media so it is obvious why when you state the numbers.
The statement in the first article posted that the different commands dividing up the earth is making the earth a place for the US to conquer is quite true. They don’t need perminent theaters of operation unless they plan to occupy. Thank god they added a new theater of operation, NorthCom, the Americans now can sleep well that there is a New Theater under command of the Pentagon.
In the end, there is no excuse for such military interventionism and expansion. No matter the statistics one can present. The bare minimum is nothing short of imperialism.
bobby Reply:
June 11th, 2009 at 2:58 am
US ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY WORLDWIDE
The best I could find from the DoD, as of March 31, 2009 (for everyone’s files)
(it also includes those afloat, and in transit)
http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/pe.....st0903.pdf
located in:
http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/pe.....miltop.htm
I counted 29 countries with more than 60 troops. (this also includes Cuba and China, hardly within the US sphere of influence. Diego Garcia doesn’t count, its part of the UK) If we have a base or contingent with less than that, I would not consider it “influential”, would you? (like I said, they would mostly be staff at embassies and consulates)
bobby Reply:
June 11th, 2009 at 3:20 am
And a whopping 8 countries with more than 1,500 personnel, at which point one may regard them as influential.
So if one wants to move, there’s lots of space on earth outside of US military influence (however McDonald’s operates in 119 countries, with 31,000 “bases”, and about a million personnel. Good luck getting away from this influence)
bobby Reply:
June 11th, 2009 at 3:26 am
oh, and with your link at Global Research, its a liberal Canadian site, which I wouldn’t trust with numbers (with only 127 US troops there, we don’t really influence them that well…)
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June 11th, 2009 at 4:54 am
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June 10th, 2009 at 11:56 am
…and of course, the fact that Ms. Maddow is a Rhodes Scholar, educated at Oxford (Illuminati training grounds for the unaware) puts her squarely in the conspiracy, handling the media, mass brain-washing aspect of the NWO. The whole act played out in this staged “interview” is quite transparent. I wanted to believe she was capable of truth-telling, but when I discovered her pedigree, I realized, nope, she’s one of them. She needs to be busted as badly as the rest of the elites, GO FOR IT!!
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Artyom Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
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June 10th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
WHY is it that nobody in mass media or government wants to talk/think about 911? To answer this, you should consider what would happen if a 911 “conspiracy” was ever proven/accepted as true (this is obviously something the perpetrators would have thought about).
Any exposed truth would be bad for a lot of people, not just Bush and company. 911 truth would quickly undermine government credibility (whatever’s left of it) and therefore create a legal mess, economic mess, military mess, diplomatic mess, and civil mess. It is difficult to determine exactly what would happen, other than it would be very bad for a variety of people, including yourselves. Bad enough for those with power/money/fame to want to avoid it at all costs, and they can easily do this by blackmailing any would be dissenters by simply showing them these potential ramifications and that it is accordingly against their own personal greedy interests to ever pursue/support a 911 truth campaign.
YET, nobody, not even truthers or sites like this, ever discuss these after-effects. Why not? Too scary? Well, if truthers avoid this topic it is actually reckless and irresponsible. Truthers should confront the results for the course of their actions. They would see how understandable it is for someone to deny the truth, and how uninviting the truth and its consequences actually are.
Here’s a good article on this, though I’ve only seen it posted in one alternative news site:
http://thingsbyme.weebly.com/r.....of911.html
Its a sad reality, but until truthers confront the results of any claimed 911 truths, most people with influence will be too scared to ever want to walk that path.
Uncle Dick Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Willy, many ‘truthers’ have thought of what you say but it has to be done, the truth must be told, the world can handle the consequences, if the perpetrators are locked away. The world will be angry, yes, many of the worl’ds citizens were murdered and we need to know who murdered our Aussie 10. Then again, think of the likely surge of world optimism in increased world justice and less warmongering.
Has to be done Willy!.
Otherwise Willy; how about a nuke next time? Then complete loss of all our humanitarian freedoms, they must not be allowed to take us and now is the time to stand; by exposing the knowledge gained by many of the world’s decent human beings to show irrefutablty that those three buildings were exploded with the loss of many, including those police and fireman intent on risking their lives to save thousands.
Willy K Reply:
June 11th, 2009 at 2:07 am
I understand complete Uncle Dick. I never said that I personally do not support 911 truth, I’m just showing why others won’t. (I do believe in the truth)
And though I agree that other truthers would have thought of the results, I am trying to point out that many others (who don’t admit it) probably have thought of it too, and it leads them into denial, hence the line of crap from the media and all wings of the government.
Also, if so many truthers think of the consequences (the good with the bad), then why don’t you ever see anything about it, here or elsewhere?? It is a compelling issue, which (if truthers are successful) would have to be dealt with.
June 10th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
911 was a show of great American incompetence. The most expensive military and intelligence groups in the world couldn’t defend us from the attacks of 9/11? Guys with box cutters walked in and took planes from us and crashed them into our own buildings? Not one plane was shot down by the military. The only plane taken away from the terrorists were Joe Average citizens fighting back. I believe that everyone on duty from GWB, CIA, FBI and every other person getting a check for “defending” America should have been tortured. Tortured not for information but for the simple fact the American taxpayer has been getting ripped off by the Intel and Military departments. No, no one was held accountable, instead the USA will be in a perpetual state of war. Fanatics, whether it be the war hawks or the truthers, are loyal to their cause but blind to the obvious neither of which is very productive. We were screwed by our own incompetence.
Rocky Mountain Rebel Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Google Major Rick Gibney for a better answer.
Urban Moving Systems Reply:
June 11th, 2009 at 4:55 am
baaaaaa, incompetence,baaaaaa. give me a fucking break.
June 10th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
All of the progressives with good paying radio or t v jobs (Moyers, Zinn, Bill Maher, Maddow, Air America) are willing to concede that Arabs did 9/11. However, since Cheney and B O keep repeating the lie I am going to submit a piece from the web that clears up two curiosities that have been bugging me for years.
1)Why wait all day to blow up WTC 7.
2)What was Flight 93 all about.
http://willyloman.wordpress.co.....#more-5941
If you didn’t go there and read it yourself, the answer is:
Flight 93 was shot down by an f-16 after it turned towards New York on a course that would take it into WTC7 just after the twin towers obligingly dropped out of the way for a spectacular finale. The pilot did what he thought was the right thing. He deserves a Monkey Wrench award if he is still alive.
The best laid schemes o’ Mice an’ Men,
Gang aft agley,
June 10th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Everyone needs to calm down…If Recon Marine is a true marine, first I want to thank him for his service and now say that he is a fool. How can you question the clues that our own government is leaving behind? I watched 911 unfold just like u did. I saw the aftermath of the pentagon attack, I saw no plane son. Just a bunch of people picking up scraps….and a hole in the wall….now Im suppose to believe the plan desentagrated? Cmon. On that day, I heard people running around saying bombs were gng off..what abt bldng 7, thermite, Larry Silverstein? See Mr.Marine people cant say no to a mystery the offical story is a mystery being broken down everyday. I to hate conspiracy theories, I just want the facts…and there is a lot of facts. Marine how bout you imagine the info that the 911 truthers are saying is true….doesnt it seem strange to you? Imagine Im your Co and I order you to think smarter!!!
trace Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
lol.couldnt have said it any better…great great comment… what I can do .. is give reco some facts that will debunk his crap up there… Course..this will have to wait til A.M. it’s late here..lol I just couldn’t pass up letting you know that you made a great, well thought out, intelligent comment.. thankyou
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June 11th, 2009 at 1:20 am
Dear Reconmarine,
Problem is…..I know a controlled demolition when I see it and I saw three on 9/11. There WAS molten metal under all three buildings that, according to the New York Times, was finally put out in December 2001. Exactly what was that?
June 11th, 2009 at 3:20 am
Good going Recon! All these people can have their myths and fantasies but they can’t hold up against actual facts and evidence. It still amazes me to hear them holding on to fallacies that have long been shown untrue (Bush head of security; 85 videos of crash), but when you’re limited to getting information from Alex Jones I guess you can’t expect much more from them. Other than they have a responsibility to educate themselves.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:42 am
To Recon: you state… ” 3)Bushs bro was NOT ever in charge of the security company you are referring to, securacom. They did ELECTRONIC security for the towers up until 2000 and he only sat on the board….”
Actually they even state they were involved with Security up to the day the towers fell.. FACT and DOCUMENTED!
Sitting on the board he did do.. he had access to whatever he needed be it from WTC to Dulles Airport ect.. he also designed where security camera’s were put into place in wtc buildings…fact! It’s also a fact…documented fact that the WTC heightened security was low graded 2wks prior to 9-11 although according to factual records they had *bomb threats* called in during this time… In WTC history…FACT floors were never shutdown electronically..however: prior to 9-11 black outs occurred and people were told to back up all important info and not to come in… FACT.. bomb sniffing dogs were let go.. FACT…another Bush member -linked business had done security work for the facilities attacked.
FACT and Documented **The managing director at KuwAm, Wirt D. Walker III, was also a principal at Stratesec, and Walker, Marvin Bush and al Sabah are listed in SEC filings as significant shareholders in both companies during that period.
Marvin Bush’s last year on the board at Stratesec coincided with his first year on the board of HCC Insurance, formerly Houston Casualty Co., one of the insurance carriers for the WTC. He left the HCC board in November 2002. **** Bottom line… There’s to many Well Documented Facts that not only did Marvin sit on the Board of this Secuirty Company his hands were all over every access point…from A to Z… it’s also a well documented fact he will not answer any questions… why’s that? and then he leaves HCC INS in 2002? wow.. tell me that’s not questionable.. go ahead.. I dare yea.. then I know your just a plant with no common sense.. just a script in front of you and that’s it!
I’ll debunk your other stuff later.. for now I must run… but in closing….There are to many secrets that the Bush Admin will not answer.. When any plane or accident happens they’ll take every scrap they can get their hands on.. put it in a hanger somewhere and study every bit of evidence and tell you in detail how and why an accident occurred. Why did they take debris from 911 and Ship them overseas without so much of an investigation into why they buildings fell etc.. what they did was illegal.. I have a feeling in the pit of my stomach your like that guy interviewed after the towers were hit who was such an obvious plant.. that explained to all of us why the towers fell 20mins after they fell.. he was an *average cit that gave us our pancake theroy… he was a plant.. and quite frankly that’s who you sound like. There’s to many obvious clues and you don’t question any of them? Hell.. how have you ever explained airline stocks around that time? *this should be good* lol
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