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Over 650 Scientists Challenge Global Warming “Consensus”
Twelve times more than those that put their names to the IPCC report
Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008
Over 650 scientists have put their names to a US Senate Minority report that challenges the contention of the UN’s International Panel on Climate Change that there is a scientific “consensus” on the causes of global warming.
Set to be released within the next 24 hours, the report features contributions from hundreds of prominent researchers, including current and former IPCC scientists, who are now speaking out in opposition of the UN’s stance on climate change.
The Senate report is an updated version of a 2007 release, with over 250 more names added, highlighting how widespread dissent continues to grow in the scientific community to the alleged “consensus” that the modern warming is primarily man-made and is a crisis.
In comparison, twelve times fewer – just 52 scientists – participated in the much touted IPCC Summary for Policymakers meeting in April 2007. Climate scientists allied with the IPCC were recently caught citing fake data to make the case that global warming is accelerating.
The new Senate report will feature new peer-reviewed scientific studies and analyses refuting man-made warming fears.
Of course the fact that the establishment likes to engage in regular mass public deception by claiming the debate about global warming is over and any dissent is tantamount to holocaust denial doesn’t bode well for potential media coverage of the report, unlike the ongoing UN climate conference in Poznan which is being lavished with endless media attention about the need for a global carbon tax to save the planet from the evils of plant food (CO2).
The self-proclaimed “consensus” behind man-made global warming is one enforced by threats, intimidation and ignorance, as highlighted by media coverage of last year’s UN meeting in Bali, where skeptical climate scientists were shunned and ignored for daring to express an opposing viewpoint.
Following the Bali resolution to impose a global carbon tax, over one hundred prominent scientists signed a letter dismissing the move as a futile bureaucratic scheme which would diminish prosperity and increase human suffering.
Hundreds more skeptical scientists met in Manhattan last February at the first International Conference on Climate Change to discuss the side of the climate change debate that the establishment media prefers to pretend does not exist.
Did the mainstream media even acknowledge these events? Not at all, because they challenge the sacred cow that scientists uniformly agree on man-made global warming.
As we have previously reported, less than half of all published scientists endorse what has been dubbed the “consensus view”.
However, President-elect Barack Obama yesterday vowed to end global warming “denial”.
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The following quotes, listed on the website of the US Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, provide a taster of what will be contained in the upcoming Senate report:
“I am a skeptic…Global warming has become a new religion.” - Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.
“Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical.” - Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.”
Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” – UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist.
“The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn’t listen to others. It doesn’t have open minds… I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists,” – Indian geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia at Punjab University and a board member of the UN-supported International Year of the Planet.
“The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC “are incorrect because they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.” – Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico
“It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don’t buy into anthropogenic global warming.” – U.S Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA.
“Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon dioxide will virtually have little impact, as water vapour and water condensed on particles as clouds dominate the worldwide scene and always will.” – . Geoffrey G. Duffy, a professor in the Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland, NZ.
“After reading [UN IPCC chairman] Pachauri’s asinine comment [comparing skeptics to] Flat Earthers, it’s hard to remain quiet.” - Climate statistician Dr. William M. Briggs, who specializes in the statistics of forecast evaluation, serves on the American Meteorological Society’s Probability and Statistics Committee and is an Associate Editor of Monthly Weather Review.
“For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?” - Geologist Dr. David Gee the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden.
“Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp…Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact.” – Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee.
“Many [scientists] are now searching for a way to back out quietly (from promoting warming fears), without having their professional careers ruined.” – Atmospheric physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in Pittsburgh.
“Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense…The present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning.” - Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 published articles.
“CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another….Every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so…Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver’s seat and developing nations walking barefoot.” - Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan.
“The [global warming] scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is something that generates funds.” - Award-winning Paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata. # #
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December 10th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=UQIAwjcc5GY
December 10th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
I’m really not sure why this issue is such a priority for alternative media sites like this. Sure there is a lot of orthodoxy around the idea of global warming, but it seems like there are unchecked orthodoxies that are far more harmful and entrenched than this one. The “War on Drugs” has been going on for decades now, and has had the effect of imprisoning large portions of the US population, contributing to a police/prison state, funding and contributing to a meddlesome foreign policy etc. It continues despite a real lack of conclusive evidence supporting the efficacy of a criminal approach to drug abuse. There are dozens of other orthodoxies out there with similarly dangerous outcomes (financial deregulation as wealth generator, the death penalty as deterent, military spending as a means of ensuring domestic security, the efficiency of privatized healthcare, farm subsidies helping rural populations.) Most of these orthodox beliefs have had dangerous outcomes that we’ve already got good evidence for.
To me, even if there is reason for skepticism, the case for global warming is at least worthy of consideration (in light of the potential harm), and the danger of a global warming orthodoxy is unclear. (It seems like the main thrust of proposed action is to move away from a petroleum based economy…and this would in my mind be a good idea whether global warming exists or not.) And there seems to be a number of well funded and well positioned skeptics (one is currently sitting in the Whitehouse) outside of the alternative media. Much of the fear seems to be related to the idea that action on climate change will lead to forms of centralized control or world government. But I would think that the development of more localized forms of power and more localized (post-petroleum) economies would actually have the opposite effect.
I’m guessing that part of the focus on global warming is to attract a more conservative audience for sites like this, as most of the other orthodoxies that I’ve listed are commonly critiqued from the left. I’m sorry if I sound naive or uninformed here, but I’m not seeing why global warming debunking should be a priority (beyond the obvious fact that its good to debunk all kinds of false orthodoxies.) I’d be very interested in hearing arguments in favour of the importance of debunking the idea of a global warming consensus.
December 10th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
I realized that I should have prefixed global warming with “human caused”, as this is specifically what I’m talking about and since it is the cause of warming and not the existence of warmign that is most controversial.
December 10th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Global warming is really caused by man. I’m a geobiologist and a full-on conspiracist, but global warming is not a myth. It’s only that it’s not going to be solved correctly until the NWO is diffused and the true green (or golden) age can begin. I have no doubt that humans can design our dream world once we’re given the reigns of freedom. Long live Alex Jones and free humans!!
December 10th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
This should be posted here because in my honest opinion it is part of the political machine. No global warming and there is no bluster to support a carbon tax. I think that it is obvious that the warming trend it completly natural and is probably linked to the solar cycle and possibly linked to the galactic plane transit. I’m not saying that pollution is healthy but as far as I’m concerned it has nothing to do with the natural global warming trend.
December 10th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
“no bluster to support a carbon tax.”
Are you sure? I know canada and england already have some taxes based on this. The UN pushes for it, obama promised it.
December 10th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Alex is always talking about how much he hates Homeland Security, yet he promotes Ready Reserve Foods, who has links to Homeland Security on their website and when you ask RR Foods about it they get defensive and they think Homeland Security is just great. check it out
http://www.readyreservefoods.com/index.html
December 10th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
@4
The reason it is important is highlighted by the lack of attention given by mainstream media.
“The greatest triumphs of propaganda have been accomplished, not by doing something, but by refraining from doing. Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth.”
Aldous Huxley Brave New World foreword to 1946 edition
Also it is important because it will be the mechanism to give the global oligarchy teeth through taxation and enforcement. Carbon Taxes, will result in the death of millions and lowering the quality of life for the rest, except for those who have sold their soul of course.
December 10th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
First off, when you say its “obvious” that the global warming trend is completely natural, I think you are making the same mistake as the climate change advocates in overstating your case. It is obviously not obvious, as consensus would not be building in favour of it.
But beyond that, why is a Carbon Tax dangerous? It will redistribute wealth, as all taxes do, but would seem to have the happy effect of moving our society away from an unsustainable and unhealthy (on all kinds of levels unrelated to climate change) petroleum based economy. Is all this climate change skepticism just about tax evasion?
December 10th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Alex Jones giving a global warming lecture to a consortium of Truthers in 2007.
December 10th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Alex Jones giving a global warming lecture to a consortium of Truthers in 2007.
http://opposingdigits.com/images/sheepherder.jpg
December 10th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Anyone who dares not worship the golden calf (Polar bear) of global warming, shall be hunted down for aiding Al Qaeda, and branded as a blaspheming racist for disagreeing with the new messiah, overlord elect Osama Hussein- the penalty for which will be membership on the “no fly” list, terrorist watchlists, and revocation of gun priveleges coupled with a heavy progressive politically incorrect insurrection tax.
December 10th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Heck, global warming is real. We can all see the changes in the weather with our own eyes. Those who are old enough can see the CHANGES in our backyard in the past 20, 30 years, and just talk to the older folks. The weather has gone crazy.
I believe in the New World Order. I believe there are financiers and family dynasties plotting to take control of global power. They can’t help themselves. They are wired to want more and more and more. They’ll soon be left all on their own on this planet the way things are going. That’ll be their punishment.
But global warming is something else. It’s real. And it’s dangerous to us.
As for those people who say, what difference do a couple of degrees make, well, 4 degrees is all that separates us from the ice age.
We share 99 per cent of the same genes with the apes. It’s the one per cent that makes us different. Little things can spell big differences.
Don’t believe the UN. Open your eyes and see the weather changes around you.
Don’t let the government off the hook, don’t let the Bushies keep on denying it and putting oil money in their pockets.
It’s us who’ll be paying the price for the pollution caused by burning this oil and coal when the crops fail, the flood come.
December 10th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Well, Barrack Obama has done it already! He’s convinced me in this short of time that he’s Just another Neocon of a “different color”! This Government only knows to Tax The working men and women because there certainly is more Tax Payers then The Rich. Another Fiasco of where the Middle man is going to GIVE them more money in the form of Taxes! One day and i think it’s coming soon, that people are going to revolt. This Carbon Tax is another scam these Neocons have used to steal by falsely justifying there stand. They’ll Pay off anyone to say what they tell them to say, OR ELSE! Typical Washington Politician. Obama is sounding no different! Wonder what “CHANGE” he’s talking about? maybe a change to “Facism?
December 10th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
This is all somewhat bitter sweet for me. I’m 21-years-old, so I’m still developing my world views. (It goes without saying that most people stop growing intellectually much earlier than 21, which is why most people are dimwitted repeaters.) I’ve been aware of this site for about two years and for about a year I was wondering: “what if I’m just getting kind of cray believing all these things Alex Jones is saying, like 9/11 was an inside job, or that man-made global warming is a hoax, etc.” I kept up my skepticism though, using my own thinking ability along with access to information online to further extrapolate what I could claim as fact. It didn’t take me too long to figure out 9/11 was an inside job, that was something I just couldn’t be on the fence about. But until about a three months ago, I was only 80% sure that man made global warming was a fraud. Now I know for sure, as the science favors the argument that global warming is caused mostly by the sun, and now tons of scientists who were caught up in the herd instinct before are now realizing the truth.
So what I want to say is: Thank you Alex Jones and the whole Prisonplanet and infowars team for having intellectual integrity. Now dawn is upon us, we must continue to overflow the ignorant and short-sighted with the cold, (not warm), truth.
December 10th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
@john, yes global warming is ‘real’.
and if you would have actually read this artical you would understand that there are hundreds of credible scientists who are opposed to the idea that global warming is ‘primarily man-made and is a crisis.’ They are not saying that it is not happening ,and their findings are facts and not fabrication and half truths. You should also note that these scientists are not headed by or influenced by politicians.
yes, ‘global warming’ is naturally occurring, but no, your windmills, solar panels and your filtered underwear are not going to stop nature. well, i guess you could try blowing up the sun?
i’d suggest worring more about things you can control, like your polluted government, rather then things you can not.
December 10th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
josh: it is best and most effective to squash false ideas before they become entrenched in the beauracracy of government. The drug war, farm subsidies, department of education, deregulation of the fraudulant banking system, etc, etc are all very bad and harmful things. They are already established though so there is less that can be done to stop them. Also, there is less news coming out about them so there are fewer news items to cover. The establishment also doesn’t feel the need to saturate the population with propoganda either since they are not trying to get anything radically new in place.
I’m pretty sure that this site covers all those other topics, and I know that Alex’s radio broadcast covers them.
December 10th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
I do agree that the idea of global warming is a complete scam. I think its really sad that most only have the garbage info availible to them. I do believe we pollute the water and
destroy eco systems, but the global warming is a seperate issue. people always seem
look at it as a package deal.
December 10th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Get off the stupid train to GW already.
20 years ago these tools tried to sell us global ice age coming…for a decade they blabbered on and on about the pending doom of an any minute now ice age…
when people did not react like they wanted(there are more fluoride damaged brains now) these tools switched into the opposite direction..we’re gonna drown…GW
I am a reasonable person, against pollution, against waste.
But this is nothing but BS propaganda to squeeze money out of us.
When you follow the money trail , you will figure out the motive for the hype.
December 10th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
The question of whether you believe in global warming is a moot point because there is a huge environmental problem looming that requires restricting carbon and nitrogen pollution: The oceans. Because of massive amounts of nitrogen and carbon released throughout the industrial age the oceans are acidifying thus starting to turn them into primeval soup. This fact coupled with overfishing of Tuna, Grouper, Swordfish….gamefish that eat Jellyfish, Jellyfish are proliferating at a massive rate. And, if calculations are accurate, most of the large gamefish will be gone by 2050, you better get use to the taste of Jellyfish. Sure Asian countries are pleased becasue it is considered a delicacy but it is has no appeal to me. Acidification also will (eventually) destroy the remaining coral reefs plus crustacians because acidic water slowly degrades (dissolves) them both. So the debate about whether global warming is a non-starter because the proposed reduction of carbon is exactly what we and the oceans desperately need to happen. If you have any doubts about what I am saying please research it.
December 10th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
GW is a pretext to tax you more. 50% of US oil consumption goes to keep the military machine going. There’s no end in sight to that environmental devastation.
December 10th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
@22
Again mystacing hysterical media pseudoscience and corrupt pollitics with empiracle science. CO2 will convert to H2CO3 only under high pressure. H2CO3 decomposes into CO2 (don’t beleive me? go open a soda bottle) The amount of H2CO3 is dependent on the atmospheric pressure not CO2 concentration in the atmosphere.
December 10th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Now Scientist are saying they can determine if you have fired a gun or you medical history from your finger print
Fingerprints Can Reveal Drug Use, Medical History
Eric Bland, Discovery News
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[Dec. 10, 2008 -- A careless touch could be all police or insurance companies need to determine not only your identity, but also your past drug use, if you've fired a gun or handled explosives, even specific medical conditions.
"A fingerprint is only good to identify a criminal if you already have their fingerprint on file," said David Russell, a professor at the University of East Anglia, who, along with Pompi Hazarika, helped developed the new technique, reported in the German journal, Angewandte Chemie. "This will give police new tools to help discover that identity."]
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/.....drugs.html
December 10th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
We’ve been told that the ongoing riots in Greece were prosecuted by anarchists as a reaction to the Greek police’s shooting of a 15 year old boy on Saturday.
But is this really what lies behind such an outpouring of civil unrest? Is the official reason for the rioting just a cover to paper over some real problems facing the Greek government? Take a look at the common thread in all of these reports:
Associated Press: Burning barricades stretched across streets in the capital Athens. And as night fell, gangs again torched stores and smashed bank branches in the city center, and clashes broke out in the streets near Parliament…. Violence often breaks out between riot police and anarchists during demonstrations in Greece. Anarchist groups are also blamed for late-night firebombings of targets such as banks and diplomatic vehicles.
Xinhua: Fires were burnt in the center of Athens and hundreds of people were wandering through the streets, some attacking banks, businesses and vehicles.
Reuters: Protesters angry at the boy’s shooting late on Saturday clashed with police and rampaged through Athens, destroying banks, shops and torching cars. There was no official estimate of the damage, expected to come to millions of euros.
Torching banks? Clashes near Parliament? Attacking diplomatic vehicles? Yesterday, I heard that ten banks had been attacked, and it seems strange that all of this is happening solely over last Saturday’s shooting. Indeed, it is a perfect pretext for the Greek authorities and the media – not to mention their counterparts over here – who fear that their cosy relationship with the international clique of banking criminals may result in them hanging from shiny lamp-posts from Washington to Dublin to Sydney.
December 10th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Rich: If you hold your breath for a minute each hour I think you can rescue the climate. Also when the solar max start again. We can make a giant mirror on the north pole and reflect sunlight. Also if you like try sitting on volcanoes they tend to produce a lot of C0² we should be able to force it back down. Sorry for the sarcasm.
December 11th, 2008 at 2:39 am
no,FAR FROM OVER,i like the sarcasm its great! what you’re saying about holding your breath is actually quite true isnt it. and points the the eventual final solution. Scary! yeah ive noticed that they talk about climate change now and have droppped “global warming” because there isnt any basically, i guess i’m just amazed how easily people allow themselves to be fooled like these enviromentalist activists. they’re probably thrilled right now because it seems that they’re being listened to by policy makers, when actually their movement or cause is being co-opted and taken over by people who want them gone!…aww shame!…and knowing how invested they are in what they’re doing they’d probably pull the trigger on themselves….hahaha.
December 11th, 2008 at 2:42 am
It’s freezing here, again. Coldest it’s been in Britain for years. We’ve had about 3 weeks of Sunshine, ruined of course by chemtrail spraying, and the rest of the year it’s been raining. Please please let’s have some Global Warming. Crank those exhaust fumes out as fast as you can. I’m freezing to death with all this Global Warming.
December 11th, 2008 at 3:29 am
Great Article Mr Watson…
Also, this is a great watch.
http://video.google.co.uk/vide.....&hl=en
Please don’t let the start put you off. This is a fantastic overview of the manipulation scientific data. Its a must watch for everyone.
December 11th, 2008 at 5:22 am
Carbon taxes may be only a day away.
It looks like California is poised to start carbon taxes by adopting a plan Thursday.
This may spread to the rest of the country later. California also started the demand for new light bulbs which the federal government adopted soon after.
Here are some excerpts from the story:
On Thursday, the California Air Resources Board was expected to adopt what would be the nation’s most sweeping global warming plan, outlining for the first time how individuals and businesses would meet a landmark 2006 law that made the state a leader on global climate change.
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At the heart of the plan is the future creation of a carbon-credit market designed to give the state’s major polluters cheaper ways to cut emissions.
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The average Californian, for example, can expect to pay to have his or her car tires inflated during oil changes and to pay higher power bills as utilities try to increase their use of renewable energy.
He or she could also see more fuel-efficient cars at dealerships, better public transportation, new housing near schools and businesses, and utility rebates to equip homes to be more energy efficient.
New fees and reporting requirements will accompany the emission rules.
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But allowing businesses to buy their way out of the problem is another contentious part of the plan. Representatives of California’s poor communities say the polluting power plants, refineries and factories in their neighborhoods could write a check rather than cut emissions.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....ouse_gases
December 11th, 2008 at 5:22 am
Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly… LOL
Now That I am no longer getting paid to tell lies or worried about loosing my job I can tell the truth.
That sums up the matter.
They are no longer scientists but puppets and spin doctors .
December 11th, 2008 at 6:05 am
It is high time to get that climatechange-issue right! There is the melting of glaciar and polar ice, there are rising water levels of oceans, annual average temperatures are increasing this is undeniable. The main cause for this is the SOLARCYCLE we`re in. Our planet get`s more energy from the sun and thus warms up.It does so since decades. It is of course wrong to blame it entirely on the CO2. This is only done to raise taxes to feed the devil. It is of course crucial to take care of the planet, climate, environment.Capitalizing pollution won`t help to improve things. love lone wolf.
December 11th, 2008 at 6:27 am
Hey #21 Rich,
When sea temperatures rise carbon dioxide is released into the atmosphere, so if the earth is really warming drastically, how can the seas dissolve so much more nitrogen and carbon dioxide? You can’t have it both ways.
Couldn’t there be a myriad of other reasons for the acidification of the earth’s waters besides human emissions of the dreaded poisonous gas, CO2?
December 11th, 2008 at 6:45 am
It could be true, but as a non-scientist I can only compere it to all other reports from all over the place that says GW is real and to the weather I see outside. Where are the data to back this up?
My second thought is; did the oil industry manage to buy them?
December 11th, 2008 at 7:19 am
Global Warming is a scam to get you to buy stuff you don’t need, lowering your standard of living and raising your taxes, and mandate you to do stuff for nothing.
It’s GLOBAL so there has to be a NWO solution they want to shove down your throat.
Honestly, wouldn’t you recognize a problem if you saw it? Don’t we have enough problems already without adding more worthless globalist “solutions?”
December 11th, 2008 at 7:35 am
Thats right. Global warming is a lie. The truth makes global warming look like a nice day in the park. No sun spots all year?What does it mean? The calm before the storm. If ignorance is bliss, then dont visit this link: http://patriotscave.blogspot.com/
December 11th, 2008 at 11:41 am
All of you morons that think global warming is something real and created by us need to do case studies in the fields of weather manipulation,The only reason there is any trend toward the earth warming up is due to the direct,although not warranted fact that your government has been dumping shit in the air for years,google chemtrails,weather modifications,barium,weather manipulation,
#2,#3,#4,#13,#30,#33
You must be schills for the NWO since you are so easily convinced by “THEIR” evidence,and are so quick to come to this site and make your opinions the first one anyone reads,forget what these decorated scientist are telling you,gladly allow yourself to be taxed for no other reason then to let them control just one more aspect of your miserable life…
#2,
The reason to attack such an issue is that if we don’t,the rest of the world will just fall in line with the UN wishes and then every time “YOU” have a child,they will tax you $5,500 when it’s born,then charge you $3,000 a year to offset that child’s carbon footprint,”FOR IT’S ENTIRE LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,and that $5,000 doesn’t include the delivery charge or the hospital stay…
#13,I am one of the older folks as you say,the temperature of the earth has not changed drastically enough in my life to recognize it,in fact,I have lived through some of the coldest and dreary years on record,there is no such thing as “GLOBAL WARMING”,only climate change and that is a completely natural cycle that the earth has been through several times in recorded history,only difference in these times is the media and governments ability to scare the crap out of people and convince them that they are to blame and that they will now have to pay for their use of the earth,but who gets the money???
December 11th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Global Warming is the next HIV/AIDS.
Politicians and politically connected groups see Global Warming as the next money machine. The same thing happened with HIV/AIDS which is based on bad science and ultimately led to “cures” which produced mass death and suffering. Here are some excellent videos on this topic: http://video.healthhaven.com/f.....+null+aids
December 11th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
I guess global warming can explain the fucking blizzard I seen in Galveston Harbor last night. As a matter of fact I froze my ass off because its not supposed to get this cold down here. I need to pack a jacket next time I go offshore because apparently global warming is a hoax. Oh there were snow flakes falling that were the size of pennies.
December 11th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
I hope the name of David Bellamy is at the head of the list. He ridiculed the Global Warming from the outset.
December 11th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Good comments from rats and Olam Tikkun about the unfeasability of ocean acidification. It’s so obvious the PTB are using that as a backup to global warming/climate change. The article had some delicious quotes, too. My favourites were from James A. Peden, Takeda Kunihiko and Geoffrey G. Duffy.
Perhaps the last line of defence is, and I’ve heard this myself, that it doesn’t matter whether it’s true or not if it serves as a rallying point for good environementalism generally. David Bellamy answers this by noting that resources to deal with real problems such as continuing species/biodiversity loss, are diverted into this fake problem.
The careerists and the NWO wouldn’t have got very far without something about the human animal. People generally want to see themselves as doing good in he world. If it turns out they’re actually doing harm, they’ll do anything to avoid confronting that reality. M. Scott Peck is always going on about this feature of human nature but he doesn’t seem to have anything to say when his mate Al Gore gets on the podium.
December 12th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
For all those Man-Made-Global-Warming-Climate-Change-Carbon-Dioxide-Is-Poisonous-And-Must-Be-Reduced-For-The-Good-Of-Humanity-Kool-Aid Drinking-Main-Stream-Media-Globalist-Loving Ignorant and utterly Brainwashed Sheeple out there, go watch this video and then follow the advice at the end. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! This world is all just a big game of chess for the “elites” and we’re just their hapless little pawns…
http://video.google.com/videop…..1690461673
December 13th, 2008 at 6:32 am
Spread the word at the grass root level…
Talk to everyone about this, people you know, your family, friends, relatives, people you don’t know (yet), people you meet on the street…. Everyone need to wake up and see the scam going on.
December 14th, 2008 at 2:20 am
Kudos ang congrats to all the scientist and politician who continues to fight the hoax of man made global warming
December 14th, 2008 at 2:57 am
I’ve been sayin’ that since before I heard anybody else sayit…brownfields been sayin’ it for a long time and this new steaming load is just one more way to steal our land,liberty,and rights.oh …and what 41 said!
December 16th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
There’s been a lot of well thought out comments here. But there’s also alot of people who are way too eager to completely dismiss the idea of global warming. Most of the scientists connected to this article haven’t dismissed the idea, they’ve just declared themselves more skeptical. This likely has more to do with the fact that GW has become such a sacred cow, as oppossed to any real changes that have occurred in the scientific evidence.
I get the sense that a lot of the people on here need to expose themselves to more of the science in support of the idea of global warming. C02 is a greenhouse gas. This is overwhelmingly accepted. There has been a warming trend witnessed during the period for which we have atmospheric temperature data. Sure, there are a lot good arguments for and against the impact of CO2 on climate change, but I don’t think anyone is suggesting that it has zero impact. I think you could make the argument (if you buy into the precautionary principle) that we ought to cut back our CO2 emmisions even if there is a significant chance that it is responsible for significant climate change.
Articles like this are great for giving voice to the doubters (as there seems to be a growing number), but I think its a little early to replace the swiftly pulled together consensus for globabl warming with certain denial. I also continue to wonder why an alternative media site is so big on this issue…as the skeptic/denier camp has allies in very high places within the Bush administration who are helping to circulate this exact story and big oil companies and think tanks who are willing to fund their research.
I also am really perplexed by the NWO implications connected to carbon taxes and climate change action. Were George Bush and Stephen Harper (as Kyoto holdouts and strongly anti-carbon tax) protecting North America from a new world order through their opposition to Kyoto and carbon taxes? Or are they just serving their base (Bush=oil rich texas/ Harper=oil rich Alberta). I think the NWO argument needs to refined (it is riddled with contradictions), and not just hauled out as a bogey man whenever it is convenient. I still haven’t heard a good argument for why we should be afraid to reduce our level of CO2 production or to implement a carbon tax to help move us away from our petrol economy.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Entrevista al Dr. Victor Velasco
http://vmvelascoherrera.blogspot.com/
Un nuevo fantasma recorre el mundo: El fantasma de la discrepancia científica.
Todas las fuerzas conservadoras se han unido en una santa cruzada para acosar a este fantasma: El IPCC, Al Gore y diferentes políticos de todo el mundo.
¿Qué científico no ha sido calificado de escéptico por el IPCC debido a plantear ideas diferentes? ¿Qué científico conservador no acepta nuevos resultados científicos y niega los cambios en la ciencia, argumentando que existe consenso científico?
De este hecho resulta una doble enseñanza:
La discrepancia científica está ya reconocida como una realidad por el IPCC y la última vez que hubo un acuerdo científico fue en la época de Galileo, la era del oscurantismo y del retroceso moral, ético, cultural, tecnológico y del conocimiento. La ciencia necesita libertad de pensamiento, de ideas, de expresión y de creación; sin ella, se entraría, en este siglo XXI, a un nuevo oscurantismo, y eso sería muy peligroso.
Ya es hora de que los nuevos científicos expongan a la faz del mundo entero sus conceptos, sus ideas y sus teorías; para continuar con la revolución de este siglo y que permita desarrollar la economía, la tecnología, la ciencia, los valores morales, éticos, entre otros.
Con este fin, los científicos de diversas nacionalidades se están manifestando y estarán publicando sus resultados de investigación, que serán publicado en español, inglés, francés, alemán, italiano, ruso, entre otros.
El IPCC podrán continuar engañando al mundo entero sobre el cambio climático, por eso les digo: “Y sin embargo, la Tierra se está enfriando”.
Viva la discrepancia que es el espíritu de la Ciencia.
Viva la discrepancia que es la mejor manera de investigar.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Phantom in a new world: the specter of scientific disagreement.
All the conservative forces have united in a holy crusade to harass this ghost: The IPCC, Al Gore and various politicians around the world.
What science has not been described as skeptical of the IPCC due to different ideas? What conservative does not accept new scientific results and scientific denies changes in science, arguing that there is scientific consensus?
This fact is a double lesson:
The discrepancy is scientifically recognized as a reality by the IPCC, and the last time there was a scientist was at the time of Galileo, the era of obscurantism and regression of the moral, ethical, cultural, technological and knowledge. Science requires freedom of thought, ideas, expression and creation, without it be entered in this twenty-first century, a new darkness, and that would be very dangerous.
It is time for new scientists to expose the face of the world their concepts, ideas and theories, to continue the revolution of this century and to developing the economy, technology, science, moral values, ethical among others.
To this end, scientists of various nationalities are saying and are publishing their research results, to be published in English, Spanish, French, German, Italian, Russian, among others.
The IPCC may continue deceiving the world about climate change, that’s why I say: “Yet, the Earth is cooling.”