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People will die after swine flu vaccine – but it’s just coincidence
Rebecca Smith and Kate Devlin
London Telegraph
Saturday, Oct 31st, 2009
Six people in Britain can be expected to die suddenly after having the swine flu vaccine but it will just be coincidence, researchers have said.
With millions of people being vaccinated against the virus there is a real risk that coincidental events will be seen as reactions to the jab, a paper in The Lancet said.
Experts at Cincinnati Children’s Hospital in America calculated the background rate of conditions that may be mistaken for vaccine reactions and warned that there is a risk people will shun the jab needlessly.
Only if these background rates are exceeded will it point to a potential problem with the vaccine.
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October 31st, 2009 at 5:40 am
I know the video IN LIES WE TRUST about Merck’s vaccine production is older, but it’s topical and should be front paged and it was just removed. I’d like to know when the interview was conducted and what was the context because the inappropriate laughter seems strange even though the joke about the russians was real enough.
The woman in the audio says Yeah Right after laughing as though she thought the doctor was being sarcastic. So what’s that all about and where did this audio come from? What is the background. I don’t see a dr. shorter at U of Toronto either after a quick search.
storky Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Its a hack video completely misinterpreted by the author. In it the author misinterprets virus INactivation, making a virus incapable of infection.
HalloWeenie Reply:
November 1st, 2009 at 5:33 am
How do you inactivate a virus when it’s active only inside the host cell, anyway?… and even if you could do something like that – how can you be sure that each and every virus in a vaccine is inactivated?..
Well, you can’t – and then there’s the issue about practically all vaccines being contaminated with other micro-organisms that nobody really controls – f.ex. Celtura contains dog viruses and bacteria, because they used dogs in the process…
http://www.theflucase.com/inde.....mp;lang=en
Airborne Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:11 am
swine flu vaccine , I have a friend that work in a Hospital pharmacy for 25 years , he told me he took it 3 times in his career , as they were required , he was very sick every time 1-2 weeks , he finally told his supervisor he was never taken it again , he never did , over 10 years ago , never had the flu except from the shots !They never ask him again to take the flu shot , as his postion was very difficult to replace , so they bow down to his wishes !!!!!!!!!
October 31st, 2009 at 8:43 am
Are you kidding me?!!!!!
These people are unbelievable.
storky Reply:
October 31st, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Law of averages based on national mortality rate, number of expected vaccinations and the range of hours those vaccinations will be administered. Have none of you been exposed to probabilities and statistics?
HalloWeenie Reply:
November 1st, 2009 at 5:35 am
“Are US flu death figures more PR than science?”
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content.....1412?ehom=
Well, just a thought…
October 31st, 2009 at 9:27 am
Coincedence my ass!
October 31st, 2009 at 11:08 am
What ? All of a sudden the British Health authorities are suddenly Psychic ? They state that six people in Britain can be expected to die suddenly after having the swine flu vaccine ? ? ?
Well if they’re so Psychic , then recall the names of these 6 people beforehand and don’t give them the injection and WALA ! , no deaths .
” . . . Experts at Cincinnati Children’s Hospital in America calculated the background rate of conditions that may be mistaken for vaccine reactions . . . ”
First of all , I need names of these ‘ Experts ‘ .
Secondly , as in April 2009 when this H1N1 swine flu scare first began , conditions of other flu symptoms were later mistaken for the H1N1 swine flu and we never did get the numbers on how many actually died from this bogus H1N1 swine flu .
It’s been reported by the CDC that as many as 10,000 people can die anunally of the flu every year in the United States and yet , these anunal numbers were lower with this ‘ supposed’ H1N1 swine flu combined then on a ordinary flu season .
I keep saying it , The NWO need to replace their Writers .
October 31st, 2009 at 11:14 am
Yeah, and this guy falls off a 72 story building and …………DIES, But, IT WAS JUST A COINCIDENCE!
HOW FUCKING STUPID DOES ONE HAVE TO BE?
October 31st, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Professor Moshe had called into a live radio show by Dr. A. True Ott, broadcast on Republic Broadcasting claiming to be a microbiologist who wanted to supply evidence to a States Attorney regarding tainted H1N1 Swine flu vaccines being produced by Baxter BioPharma Solutions. He said that Baxter’s Ukrainian lab was in fact producing a bioweapon disguised as a vaccine. He claimed that the vaccine contained an adjuvant (additive) designed to weaken the immune system, and replicated RNA from the virus responsible for the 1918 pandemic Spanish flu, causing global sickness and mass death.
Joseph Moshe was arrested and sent to Israel where he is a dual citizen. He has not been heard from. If you want to read the full article google ‘Josephe Moshe Mossas Microbiologist Baxter Israel 1918 virus’ and that should do it.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:09 am
Cincinnati Children’s Hospital. Not surprising!!! The shittiest city in the shittiest state in the shittiest country. It is like the asshole of the United States… Shit comes out of there.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:01 am
I have an urgent message for you, more important than any message you can hear. God is Holy and cannot accept sin(honor thy mother and father…, thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit adultery, thou shall not steal, thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor, thou shall not covet..etc…Exodus 20:12-17). Here are some verses that show examples of sin:
“Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.” Matthew 5:21-22
“Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.” Matthew 5:27-28
“It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.” Matthew 5:31-32
“For ALL have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” Romans 3:23. Your good deeds cannot cover up your bad deeds.
“But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.” Isaiah 64:6
“As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.” Romans 3:10-12
You could be perfect in all the law and stumble at one point and it is as if you broke all of them:
“For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.” James 2:10
“Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.” James 4:17
God wrote the law on each man’s heart so they are without excuse on judgment day when we will ALL stand before Christ(”Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another” Romans 2:15). The penalty of sin is death and eternal punishment in the LAKE OF FIRE. I am warning you about hell because I love you! You are dead in your sins and headed for hell which is described in the Word as a FIRE THAT QUENCHES NOT(”…the fire is not quenched” Mark 9:44). It is a horrible and terrible place of everlasting torment that people will go because of their sins.
“And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.” Luke 16:22-24
“In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;” 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9
But God has provided a way for each to escape the lake of fire. He sent his Son Jesus(God manifest in the flesh-1 Timothy 3:16) who was conceived by a virgin by the Holy Spirit of God,lived a sinless life, and suffered a horrible death/shed blood and rose again 3 days later to take the penalty of YOUR sins so you dont have to pay for them in hell for eternity! He loved you so much which is why he did it! He is the only one to have fufilled the law perfectly(sinless) and paid the price of the entire world’s sins so that man could be saved on the merits of His perfection(see Romans 5:19). All you must do to be saved is BELIEVE in Him(trust in Him to save you as a sinner). You must admit your lost sinful condition to Him/that you’re worthy of hell, and ask Him to save you by placing complete trust in Jesus ALONE for salvation(an example in the Word of someone doing this- “And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.” Luke 18:13).It is not even partly by yourselves that you can be saved, but only by the merits of Jesus Christ!
“For God so loved the world, He sent his only Begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life” John 3:16.
“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world” 1 John 2:2
“…Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,” Revelation 1:5
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” 1 Corinthians 15:3-4
“Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” Acts 16:29-31
“But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” Romans 4:5
“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.” Romans 10:9-10
No works or anything you do can save you! May God open your eyes, that one day I may see you in heaven. Read the Word of God(the 1611 King James version- NOT the modern versions, they are corrupt) before rejecting it! Death is fleeting. You may NOT have tomorrow! For death comes when we least expect it! Make sure you are saved TODAY! The Bible condemns the rich, the wealthy, and those who take advantage of the poor, so it CANNOT have been made up by the elite. Because the Word clearly CONDEMNS people such as those! It declares all mankind as sinners(myself included).
I am a Christian, and love you enough to warn you of the dangers of hell. Beware, the Roman catholic church is NOT Christian! The church CANNOT save you but only Christ! Just because someone says they are a Christian does not necessarily mean they are one(remember the crusades in history? Many were murdered in the name of Christianity. These were no Christians at all by their testimony). Please email me to inquire more. I would be glad to help you out in your search for truth!(my email- livingwaters705@hotmail.com)…To those who slander/mock me, I pray for you and love you anyways and hope you will trust Christ before its too late!
I call upon my fellow Christians on here to return hate posts with love and blessings. The Lord commands us to love them:
“Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.” Matthew 5:43-45
Salvation is not found in good works, rituals, church, the pope, water baptism, good lives, etc….But ONLY found by faith in Jesus Christ the Savior!
If you need prayer or anything, just let me know! I would be glad to help! I love and care for you, and I have prayed that every person that reads this who do not know the Lord, would one day turn to Christ in faith for salvation for their sins. I beg you to turn to Christ in faith before it is too late! You get ONE chance while living and then it is too late forever:
“And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:” Hebrews 9:27
“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” John 14:6
“…there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.” Isaiah 45:21-22
“And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.” Revelation 22:17
November 1st, 2009 at 1:24 pm
More people are dying from environmental tobacco smoke than anything else in the world combined. The health experts have tried to stop people from smoking but the filthy smokers just keep on killing me and everyone around me. That is the real problem and not flu vaccine. If health experts say to take the vaccine, it is safer than being anywhere near a filthy smoker. Filthy smokers are the real cause of all the problems on this planet and must be destroyed.
oH Aye? Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:04 am
Lol, you really don’t like smokers do you? Are you aware that motor vehicle drivers are as bad (if not worse) than smokers? Do you realise the amount of carcinogens that are expelled from the exhaust? You seem to blame smokers for people dying because you feel like you wanna be part of that band wagon, well why don’t you do some thinking for yourself and realise that smokers harm themselves and people in close proximity whereas you dirty, lazy drivers are causing more damage to our environment and the general public out on the streets!! Ofc this won’t be an issue to you idiots until the mass media points out how much damage it actually does to everyone!
November 1st, 2009 at 1:56 pm
More people HAVE DIED and WILL DIE of SMOKING RELATED ILLNESSES, yet there is no INTERNATIONAL ALARM, classifying it as a PANDEMIC Problem. HIV/AIDS patients, whose immune systems are already compromised, have there been any deaths from that community by contracting Swine-Flu? NO! And more people have died and will DIE as a result of that disease on a grand level. Yet, Obama’s Swine Flu is treated like a PLAGUE. And has anybody heard that, that co-conspirator of the Twin Towers Catastrophe, Donald Rumsfeld, has an FINANCIAL INTEREST in that VACCINE. He’s an allege shareholder in that Company. So the architectures of the Twin-Tower Catastrophies didn’t think that was enough, now they have infected members of the population with a dreadful disease and desire to infect MASSES with the so called VACCINE. May ALMIGHTY ALLAH’S Wrath descend down upon all those who desire to KILL, DESTROY, and Deceive it’s fellow man for PROFITS!
November 1st, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Derrick or derlick, there is only one God and his name is YHWY.so there wont be no allahs wrath comming down on those who desire to kill and destroy.Gods wrath will come down on those who deny Jesus Christ our lord and savior.there is only on way to the father and thats through Jeses.
Derrick Reply:
November 1st, 2009 at 9:42 pm
“Through WHO?” Jeses? Your illiterate ass can’t even spell your Lord and Savior’s name. So there’s your Proof, you don’t even know who your Lord and Savior is. Do yourself a favor and either finish your early education or Pray to ALLAH to teach you Understanding. The only “DERELICT” is you “ROB”, you’ve been “ROBBED” of the Knowledge that Your Lord and Savior is ONLY ALLAH(The Most High), After you finish learning your A,B,C’s all over again, go to your nearest Mosque or Islamic bookstore and get yourself a “Fresh” copy of The Holy Quran, and “IQRA”(Arabic for Read) Read the Holy words from THE ORIGINATOR OF CREATION. Idiot!
November 1st, 2009 at 4:59 pm
I an a smoker and i have always been very fastidious about personal hygiene so less of the filthy please and we are not to blame for all of the worlds ills that is about the most ignorant statement ever and you miss the point by a thousand miles we smokers know exactly the risk we take and pay through the nose in tax but nobody tells us it is good or forces us to smoke unlike the flu jab which we are told is for our own good if you want to point the finger at anyone to blame try the fantasists who think this forum is some kind of bible lesson please stop the bible bashing most people with half a brain do not believe in fairy tales and stop the smoker discrimination and focus on the real bad guys you know the people that this website is about unless you are an agent provocateur trying to divide the resistance with silly little games a well known bankster ploy.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Yeah, and if I put a loaded gun to my head and pulled the trigger, it would just be a coincidence if I died from it, right? The loaded gun and the H1N1 shot may be more similar than anyone at the WHO or CDC want to admit, and the results for many are apparently the same. But we can’t tell anyone, because then the Billions spent on the phony vaccines for piggy flu might be seen as just a huge waste of taxpayer money, which is exactly what they are.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:26 am
Over many years we have all been lied to by our Governments, but not just our Governments but many religous leaders. Many things we have been taught are not even in Scripture and millions have swallowed so many lies by these false prophets. If you are a truth seeker please visit the following web site and take the time to read some of the articles, you will be shocked.
http://www.2besaved.com
Blessings as you seek truth
Ben
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:38 am
See OFFICIALS of GOVERNMENT; voting fraudulently -
LAWMAKERS…breaking the law – 4:00 video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfhO38CPlAI
So much is going on during a vote on the “HPV” – VACCINE MANDATE; you really have to pay attention (1 minute and 11 seconds into the video). Watch the fraudulent voting; it takes place in the Texas Legislature. It continues without objection, or reprimand…what do you think would happen to you, or me, if we were caught doing this?