John-Henry Westen
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Tuesday, July 14, 2009
Newspapers, blogs, talk-shows on radio and television are full of discussion over Pope Benedict XVI’s supposed call for a “new world order” or a “one-world government.” These ideas are, however, neither based in reality nor a clear reading of the Pope’s latest encyclical, Caritas in Veritate, the release of which yesterday spawned the heated discussion.
The Pope actually speaks directly against a one-world government, and, as would be expected from those who have read his previous writings, calls for massive reform of the United Nations. Confusion seems to have come from paragraph 67 of the encyclical, which has some choice pull-quotes which have spiced the pages of the world’s news, from the New York Times to those of conspiracy theorist bloggers seeing the Pope as the Anti-Christ.
The key quote which has led to the charge reads: “To manage the global economy; to revive economies hit by the crisis; to avoid any deterioration of the present crisis and the greater imbalances that would result; to bring about integral and timely disarmament, food security and peace; to guarantee the protection of the environment and to regulate migration: for all this, there is urgent need of a true world political authority, as my predecessor Blessed John XXIII indicated some years ago.”
However, in paragraph 41, the Holy Father specifically differentiates his concept of a world political authority from that of a one-world government. “We must,” he says “promote a dispersed political authority.” He explains that “The integrated economy of the present day does not make the role of States redundant, but rather it commits governments to greater collaboration with one another. Both wisdom and prudence suggest not being too precipitous in declaring the demise of the State. In terms of the resolution of the current crisis, the State’s role seems destined to grow, as it regains many of its competences. In some nations, moreover, the construction or reconstruction of the State remains a key factor in their development.”
Later in the encyclical (57) he speaks of the opposite concept to one- world government -subsidiarity (the principle of Catholic social teaching which states that matters ought to be handled by the smallest, lowest or least centralized competent authority) – as being essential. “In order not to produce a dangerous universal power of a tyrannical nature, the governance of globalization must be marked by subsidiarity,” says the Pope.
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Another of the key quotes which is being extracted for shock value from the encyclical is this: “In the face of the unrelenting growth of global interdependence, there is a strongly felt need, even in the midst of a global recession, for a reform of the United Nations Organization, and likewise of economic institutions and international finance, so that the concept of the family of nations can acquire real teeth.”
Since long before his papacy, Joseph Ratzinger has vigorously fought the United Nations’ vision of a ‘New World Order’. As early as 1997, and repeated subsequently, Ratzinger took public aim at such a vision, noting that the philosophy coming from UN conferences and the Millennium Summit “proposes strategies to reduce the number of guests at the table of humanity, so that the presumed happiness [we] have attained will not be affected.”
“At the base of this New World Order”, he said is the ideology of “women’s empowerment,” which erroneously sees “the principal obstacles to [a woman's] fulfillment [as] the family and maternity.” The then-cardinal advised that “at this stage of the development of the new image of the new world, Christians – and not just them but in any case they even more than others – have the duty to protest.”
Benedict XVI in fact repeats those criticisms in the new encyclical. In Caritas in Veritate, the Pope slams “practices of demographic control, on the part of governments that often promote contraception and even go so far as to impose abortion.” He also denounces international economic bodies such as the IMF and World Bank (without specifically naming them) for their lending practices which tie aid to so-called ‘family planning.’ “There is reason to suspect that development aid is sometimes linked to specific health-care policies which de facto involve the imposition of strong birth control measures,” says the encyclical.
Any vision of a proper ordering of the world, of international economics or political cooperation, suggests the Pope, must be based on a “moral order.” That includes first and foremost “the fundamental right to life” from conception to natural death, the recognition of the family based on marriage between one man and one woman as the basis of society and freedom for faith and cooperation among all peoples based on principles of natural law.
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July 14th, 2009 at 9:11 am
O come now ye fools… Do you really not think the Vatican is not in on some scam? Look at their track record… Even to date they are still attempting to cover up the heinous crimes of abuse – a systemic pattern of collusion and evil…. This article is a tirade and to a large extent a convoluted defence of the indefensible… The Vatican is connected to global control no matter what spin is put out there. This does not mean the average Catholic is that way or inherently evil etcera and all that palava. It just means they have yet to apply some critical thinking to the very constructs of the Vatican and its heinous history. Perhaps too lax in not studying the Scriptures or resisting revering the priest and apparitions of Mary. Not suckered in Go raibh maith agat! An ex-catholic
Jim Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 10:30 am
A Chara,
The Vatican is not synonymous with the Pope or the college of Bishops or the Catholic Church. The Vatican is a city-state. This encyclical is not an act of the Vatican, it is a cyclical letter of the Bishop of Rome, commonly called the Pope. Some scandals are acts of Catholics, while others are acts of Vatican officials. There isn’t a clear line between the two because the Pope still tried to wield temporal power, hence the confusion of people’s actions as a reflection on the religion. It’s a shame. You’re an ex-Catholic. I would hope you’d be an ex-Vaticanist but take up the Catholic religion again. The Vatican bureaucracy has (or should have) nothing to do with Catholicism. It is a temporal power-wielding that has been added to it, and does not require your belief one bit. Try reading Malachi Martin’s “Rich Church, Poor Church” and “The Decline and Fall of the Roman Church” if your interested. Go mbeannaí Dia duit!
WM COOPER Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
The Pope is demanding world government, and to claim otherwise is DISINFO.
Read the stupid thing, it’s very clear. He wants it set up like a pyramid with “subsidiarity” so the top rung can have total control.
Watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW5RXKAs8wg
Jim Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Uh … subsidiarity is an ancient Catholic concept. (Actually the concept goes even further back to Aristotle.) It is the COMPLETE opposite from “total control” authority. The plain fact is that you would not have modern democracy without this teaching.
Zorg Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 1:09 am
Jim, I like a lot of your comments here against the knee-jerk anti-Catholics,
but this encyclical is a muddled mess! I have tried to explain subsidiarity to
people before in order to defend the recent popes against the accusations
of supporting the NWO, but I felt like I was punched in the stomach when
I read the offending sentence: “There is an urgent need for a world political
authority.” You can put 10,000 caveats before that and 10,000 after it in order
to give “context”, but nothing justifies a statement like that in an encyclical!
The thing is supposed to be about ethics! There are no ethical rules when it
comes to states. They claim monopoly power and exist by force. Period. The funny thing indeed is that Alex as well as most commenters on the web AND
the Pope are all statists. No statist can deny the logic of a world state since it’s
only a further application of the basic principle of coercion and monopoly inherent in statism. By the same token, once secession is acknowledged as a right, no one
can deny its extension, on principle, to the smallest units of society. Most people, if they’ve even managed a thought or two about it are somewhere in the unprincipled
middle-ground. This allows them to cast others as “extremists” in both directions.
So if the Pope happens to have an idealized view of some limited and beneficient
(in his mind) “world political authority”, it’s likely going to scare the pants off
of statists on the other side of that muddled middle regardless of all the caveats
about subsidiarity and such.
I’m surprised that Alex put this article up, but good for him. I guess he’s broadening his perspective. It’s so odd to find this here because I cannot defend this encyclical at all. The explicit political advocacy in it is really sickening. One wonders how
it ever got to print. The Pope might as well give us his picks for baseball or
something else that has nothing at all to do with his role in defending the Faith.
What he said only adds to the confusion. Where in the world is the principle of
subsidiarity actually practiced? The whole world is overcome by extreme top-down
authoritarianism in gov’t. The supposed “limited gov’t” idea of the US is a joke.
It’s one big federal program. So any talk of a “world political authority” is grossly
out of place even if it were the Pope’s business to tell us his preferences on such
matters. There is little doubt that ANY such world power would become tyrannical
the moment it sprang into existence by the fiat of its constituent corrupt powers.
And the Pope also demonstrates that he knows little about economics.
He doesn’t understand the cause of the crisis (and he’s not alone), so neither
the platitudes offered nor the faith expressed in gov’t solutions is of any use to us.
Like most people, he is so blinded by the ubiquity of gov’t interventionism that
he doesn’t understand that this is a gov’t generated crisis. The idea that
the solution to gov’t control is more gov’t control, and that this is somehow an
expression of subsidiarity if some new world power steps in to “regulate” the
whole world economy and finance, is mind-blowing in the extreme. At best, he
is being ridiculously naive here. I certainly hope that’s all it is.
Jim Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 8:15 am
Zorg,
I agree! The Post Vatican II Popes present a mess of ideas trying to reconcile Catholic concepts with modern mentality. It is a square peg into a circle. This document is certainly not beyond reproach. But I prefer reality. So let the critique be based on reality, not the silly Jesuit, et al., conspiracies which have not basis in reality. The Pope can easily be critiqued and refuted based on public comments and actions. I think the Pope can speak on economics just like anyone, but everyone should realize that he is not an economist and his economic ideas may have little authority behind them. The economic ideas which do have authoritative weight generally can be classed under the “love of neighbor” category and how we manage our economies under the stewardship the land and resources God has given us. Believe me, I pray for a Pope that would illucidate subsidiarity in a clear way because that is the true “sustainable” future that we really need.
July 14th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Omg, the man looks SOOO evil!
http://www.unsoughtinput.com/i.....palpatine/
http://techandtalk.blogspot.co.....atine.html
“You can’t … book… cover” whatever, i see what i see… the previous pope did not look like a nice guy, but this one… omg…
And btw, regarding old news, innocent until PROVEN guilty!
July 14th, 2009 at 9:58 am
i meant “the previous pope DID look like a nice guy”
July 14th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Bravo to Prison Planet for posting this article. When the previous Reuters was posted I was slanted to support the New World Order agenda. I can’t fault the Pope for wanting to reform the present structures. I think this is a viable opinion on solution including the one for completely abolishing the structures. I think the former is more realistic than the latter. The latter could be seen on the other end of a massive conflict like a World War. The moral of the story is to read the originals to get the context. If your going to hold strong opinions on something it MUST be supported by evidence and citation, or you just look the fool, or you look bigoted. Even if you heartily disagree with the Pope, that objection should be more than slander or hate, or most decent people will ignore you or work against you.
Wheats Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 8:44 am
So, Jim, if the One World Religion under the NWO was declared to be Catholicism, you’d be okay with that?
Jim Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
It would be a fake Catholicism. Know them by their fruits. The whole concept of a false prophet is that he will APPEAR to be a prophet, but not a true one. “Appear” and “false” convey the idea that the falsity will be quite convincing. It is by the fruits that we will be to judge who is Catholic and who is hijacking the religion for some other motive than the salvation of souls. I wouldn’t be okay with a “Catholicism” declared as the One World Religion under the NWO.
July 14th, 2009 at 10:20 am
When a man uses bunch of unnecessary long evasive phrases instead of just; “The New World Order is Wrong and Evil, then you know he is sidestepping the question… and the Morality of it.
Pope Benedict is promoting environmentalism, “true world political authority”, statism, etc. in these rambling platitudes.
He sounds just like a Bohemian Grover…. and even more like the Wh… of Revelations.
Silvanus Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Yea Babylon the great, no doubt. Catholics, please do your research, repent and get to know Jesus personally!
Veritas Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Cathlicism is true Christianity. Like the Jews during the Old Testament, it is not without its problems, but the teachings of Catholicism are those of Jesus Christ. Protestantism, with is 30,000+ denominations – all divided by their misinterpretation of the Bible – are heretical sects, and will not lead a person to heaven. The false doctrines of Protestantism are certainly from the devil.
Anyone who has looked into Church history from both sides will know that what I say is true. Those who have looked at only one side will not. Do you homework, and don’t believe everything you hear. Start your homework by reading the early Church Fathers. Virtually all of their writings are available online. See how the beliefs of Christianity from day one line up with your interprettion of the Bible.
Jim Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
It is certainly true historically that the Protestant revolt paved the way for an all-powerful dictatorship. Take the examples of Henry VIII, Elizabeth II, and the “freedom-loving” reformers like Luther and Calvin who were anything but that, ruling with an iron hand. The problem was that when the Church was subverted the government stepped in to become God. That’s why so many Americans are unwilling to rise up, because that would be to revolt against their religion. What religion would they have left then? Not even the belly would be full!
The Church was corrupt at that time, but the answer was horrific. The counter reformation reformed many of the corrupt aspects. Well, in our time we have a world crisis. I am wary of all the “reformers” so willing to talk to itching ears with their new doctrines promising one salvation or another. The “churches” are replicating more quickly than Gremlins. Just head for the root of Jesse and His one Church, be awake and informed, and you’ll be fine. This is a time in which men will not endure sound doctrine. Do we have to suffer to come back to God?
Ronda Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 7:44 am
I’m having a difficult time picturing the poor fisherman Peter in the regal robes the pope wears.
Az Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 4:53 am
Veritas, i find your opinion very one sided. The ‘interpretation’ as you called it, is exactly that. An interpretation, who is to say that all the early church fathers interpreted it right? It is not heretical to have a different opinion to the one you have. I myself am a seventh day adventist, and believe that saturday is God’s holy day. I think you should study hard and pray for guidance. God bless
stef Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 5:26 am
many of us do…and lot’s of evangelicals I have met don’t seem to worship Jesus but their pastor-guru
BelieveIT Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Jesus never asked for worship, but the Father demands exclusive devotion. You are to pray to your Father, as Jesus demonstrated in what is commonly referred to as the Lords’ prayer.
Catholicism is Not true Christianity, it is absolutely nothing like what the apostles practiced. Who forbids marriage? Who said that you must give no matter what? Who said you must pay for everything little thing? who said “get involved in the world”? Who said that we are to assimilate pagan symbols, holidays and festivals into our worship? Did Jesus say these things?
1Tim 1-4: (forbidding to marry is teaching of demons)
However, the inspired utterance says definitely that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons, 2 by the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, marked in their conscience as with a branding iron; 3 forbidding to marry, commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be partaken of with thanksgiving by those who have faith and accurately know the truth.
2Cor 9:7 (giving)
Let each one do just as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
Mat 10:8 (Jesus says)
…YOU received free, give free.
I’ll leave the other scriptures for you to find on your own, but clearly, the Catholic church is not teaching truth according to the Bible, rather they are teaching doctrines of men and teachings of demons.
True Christians take God’s word seriously, and strive to live by it. They use God’s name (and it’s not Jesus) and put thier hope on Him, not on worldly rulers.
July 14th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Didn’t the Hitler Youth Camp teach him that centralized absolute power is the only option?
The Vatican is at the heart of everything. Remember, all roads lead to Rome.
Jim Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 10:37 am
“Remember, all roads lead to Rome.”
By that logic then those roads would lead therefore to salvation too.
Sui Juris Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Hahaha!
Was ancient Rome = to salvation?
That my friend, is laughable. The Catholic church has murdered more people than all of America’s wars COMBINED.
Jim Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
You said it, I didn’t. “All” roads.
July 14th, 2009 at 11:03 am
So, wait. The Pope denounced the new world order in the same writing in which he said it was a good idea? Useless old bastard.
At least he chose the right name for himself.
July 14th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Here is a great two-part interview with Bishop Williamson of the Society of St. Pius X. Some of you might remember him recently for being a “holocaust denier” who was reinstated in the Church by Pope Benedict. In it he walks about 9/11 as an inside job, about the Vatican, about intellectual honesty, and the crisis of faith and the whole world going on. For those who think that Catholicism is following the Pope in all things like a robot, listen to what he has to say. The SSPX has been vital in resisting many of the errors in this time. They are currently in negotiations with the Pope over doctrinal issues.
http://truerestoration.blogspo.....chard.html
http://truerestoration.blogspo.....rd_10.html
July 14th, 2009 at 11:41 am
The genocidal maniac Mousolini got the Vatican re-instated in 1929. That’s right folks, the Vatican was BANNED from the Earth before 1929 and was revived by genocidal murderers. And what 2 countries did the new Pope and Vatican immediatly give its full support to in 1929??? Hitler and Mousolini. Any way you slice it, the Pope and the Vatican supported the genocide of millions and Catholics today seem to have no idea of their own history.
Jim Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
The history is more complex than that. If the Vatican was really the seat of power, why wouldn’t that pounce down on Italy to regain the whole Papal States instead of a little crumb on Vatican Hill? Certainly it was a compromise on both sides. Mussolini had something to gain, and the Vatican did as well. The “Pope” supporting the genocide of millions of people is a outright lie. Please show how the “Pope”, whoever you have in mind, supported genocide. In addition, what does that have to do with the document and news story in connection?
duke of omaha Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Jim, You have defended the Catholic Church well my friend, but some people will not do the research necessary to make an imformed decision concerning the church and her workings. You have to wonder when certain so called Christians have the need to slam or slander other Christians and their particular practices of their faith. How strong a Christian are you if you do these things?
Me Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Genocide example – try looking up the Vatican support of the Nazi state of Croatia in WW2. Or read the book Ratlines where the Vatican smuggled out all of the biggest scum from the Nazi’s. Or maybe check out their role in destroying the native population in Canada. Or the kid diddlers. Please stop with your lies.
Ewe Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Genocide example – try looking up the Vatican support of the Nazi state of Croatia in WW2. Or read the book Ratlines where the Vatican smuggled out all of the biggest scum from the Nazi’s. Or maybe check out their role in destroying the native population in Canada. Or the kid diddlers. Please stop with your lies.
Jim Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Eve or Me,
Your logic is amazing. If you drew conclusions in the same way for positive examples, then your post may read something like this.
“Salvation example – try looking up the Vatican support of the Irish state after WWI. Or read the book The Jews, Pius XII, and the Black Legend where the Vatican smuggled out all numerous Jews from the Nazi’s. Or maybe check out their role in educating the native population in India. Or the priest who helped troubled youth, John Bosco. Please stop with your truth.
Real Masterminds of the New World Order Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 11:27 am
“In Croatia the indigenous fascist regime set about a policy of ‘racial purification’ that went beyond even Nazi practices. Minority groups such as Jews and Gypsies were to be eliminated, as were the Serbs: it was declared that one-third of the Serbian population would be deported, one-third converted to Roman Catholicism, and one third liquidated. …Ustasha bands terrorized the countryside. The partial collaboration of the Catholic clergy in these practices continues to be a component of Serb-Croat suspicion.”
-Encyclopædia Britannica, Edition 1991, Macropedia, Vol. 29, page 1111.
“a historic fact that certain members of the Croat Catholic hierarchy […] endorsed the butchery, and some members of the Franciscan order took an active part in the forced conversions of the Serbs and also in the massacres.”
-Robert Lee Wolff, Professor of History at Harvard
“The omission of Croatia from the conventional Holocaust studies is like a book whose first chapter is torn out.”
-Jonathan Steinberg, Professor of European History at the University of Pennsylvania
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
BelieveIT Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Jim,
I have an idea. Make some aol/yahoo/gmail email account for the specific purpose of this, and I will send you everything that I can find on Catholic Nazi support.
duke of omaha : I will never bash another Christian, but if you claim to be a follower of Christ and yet teach lies, I will tell it like it is. Can everyone be a Christian who claims to be? When there are so many opposing teachings, the answer is an emphatic No. And maybe it is the case that a person WANTS to do right, and know the truth – for those people I pray that they learn the truth – but it takes more than just an honest heart to worship the Father in spirit and in truth.
July 14th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Jesuits & the Illuminati-
“[Jesuit Adam] Weishaupt established the [modern version of the] Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being [formally] abolished by [Pope] Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits.”
-Bill Hughes (Author of The Secret Terrorists and The Enemy Unmasked
Weishaupt was a professor at Ingolstadt University, which was the center of the Jesuit Counter-Reformation. (See Encyclopedia Britannica Vol. XII, p. 251.) Ingolstadt was the center where the Jesuits were flourishing in 1556. (See History Of Protestantism by Wylie, Vol. 11, page 413.) Can we really believe that Weishaupt would have been allowed to continue his professorship in a Jesuit controlled University if he had deserted them? All evidence suggests that he continued to work for the Jesuits, establishing the Bavarian order of the Illuminati for them.
*Even Ignatius Loyola, the founder of the Jesuits, was tried before a court in 1527 for sympathizing with the Alumbrados i.e. the Spanish Illuminati.
“The Alumbrados came especially from among the reformed Franciscans and Jesuits, and St. Ignatius Loyola was charged in 1527 with sympathizing with them.”
-Encyclopedia Britannica Vol. 1, page 693
So, the Spanish Illuminati drew most of its recruits from Roman Catholic sources, the Franciscans and Jesuits, and Loyola was charged with being in favor with them.
Jesuits & Freemasonry-
“It is curious to note too that most of the bodies which work these, such as the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, the Rite of Avignon, the Order of the Temple, Fessler’s Rite, the “Grand Council of the Emperors of the East and West — Sovereign Prince Masons,” etc., etc., are nearly all the offspring of the sons of Ignatius Loyola. The Baron Hundt, Chevalier Ramsay, Tschoudy, Zinnendorf, and numerous others who founded the grades in these rites, worked under instructions from the General of the Jesuits. The nest where these high degrees were hatched, and no Masonic rite is free from their baleful influence more or less, was the Jesuit College of Clermont at Paris.”
-Isis Unveiled, H. P. Blavatsky, (Los Angeles, California: The Theosophy Company, 1968; originally published in 1877). p. 390.
“…it is admitted that Roman Catholic, if not jesuitical, features are to be found in some of the high degrees.
It is contended by one German writer that the object of the Jesuits in seeking a control of the Masonic Institution was that they might be thus assisted in their design of establishing an aristocracy within themselves, and that they sought to accomplish this object by securing not only the direction of the Masonic Lodges, but also by obtaining a monopoly of the schools and churches, and all the pursuits of science, and even of business.”
-Albert G. Mackey, 33° Freemason, The History of Freemasonry
Goat Save the Queen Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Weishaupt was Jewish and did temporarily infiltrate the Jesuit Order. He was evicted because he worshiped Lucifer and founded the Luciferian illuminate. By the same logic, the MOSSAD jews who did 911 are great American Heros. Nice try Bernie Hoffman, a.k.a. “Tony Alamo”, how’s the kitty porn? Why do you Jews hate Catholics? Is it because we know you murdered god?
BelieveIT Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Murdered God? Whoa! Did I miss something? If God is dead then who was Jesus praying to way back in the day? Who is it that I’m praying to? I pray to Jehovah, the only true and living God. Maybe your “god” is dead but God has not died.
Question for the Catholics there though, why is it that the church is so set on removing the name of God from all official church materials, including the Bible? (It’s now official policy) Can anyone here answer that question in all seriousness?
Peace
July 14th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
“They are Jesuits. This society of men, after exerting their tyranny for upwards of two hundred years, at length became so formidable to the world, threatening the entire subversion to all social order, that even the Pope [i.e., Clement XIV], whose devoted subjects they are, and must be, by the vow of their society, was compelled to dissolve them [in 1773].
They had not been suppressed, however, for fifty years, before the waning influence of Popery and Despotism required their useful labors to resist the light of Democratic liberty, and the Pope (Pius VII) simultaneously with the formation of the Holy Alliance [in Europe], revived the order of the Jesuits in all their power [in 1814].
And do Americans need to be told what Jesuits are? If any are ignorant, let them inform themselves of their history without delay; no time is to be lost; their workings are before you in every day’s events; they are a secret society, a sort of Masonic order with super added features of revolting odiousness, and a thousand times more dangerous. They are not merely priests, or priests of one religious creed; they are merchants, and lawyers, and editors, and men of any profession, having no outward badge by which to be recognized; they are about in all your society. They can assume any character, that of angels of light, or ministers of darkness, to accomplish their one great end, the service upon which they are sent, whatever that service may be.”
-Samuel Morse (1791-1872; American inventor of the telegraph; author of the book Foreign Conspiracy Against the Liberties of the United States)
July 14th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
i dont agree with this article.
‘By the end of this decade (2000 AD) we will live under the first One World Government that has ever existed in the society of nations … a government with absolute authority to decide the basic issues of human survival. One world government is inevitable.’
– Pope John Paul II quoted by Malachi Martin in the book ‘The Keys of This Blood.’”
come on now people.
rebel Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
i forgot to add. The catholic church does want a nwo and the pope is just a front…just like our presidents.
Real Masterminds of the New World Order Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 11:51 am
“Do not fear; put your trust in him! The life-giving power of his light is an incentive for building a new world order based on just ethical and economic relationships,”
-Pope Benedict XVI, Urbi et Orbi, Christmas 2005
http://www.infowars.com/articl.....or_nwo.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAbhRxmA46I
July 14th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Vatican … Babylon the great … Whore of Revelations … Hitler Youth Camp … genocide … Jesuits … Real Masterminds … Freemasonry … Etc
ZZZZ…..
Please, everyone, get some discernment. We have to be capable of deeper thought here. They way some people post about Catholicism makes me doubt that they’d condemn Jesus himself if he knocked on their door. He’d come preaching the unity of all men and how all men were to submit to him in love, and how anyone who wasn’t with him was against him, and they’d answer back … CONSPIRACY, WORLD GOVERNMENT, ETC!!!
Catholics themselves preach about the Church being subverted in the endtimes and a false prophet who may very well be a FALSE Pope.
Today’s discernment lesson:
- The “Vatican” is not the Catholic Church
- The Pope does not have to be obeyed in all he says, he could be wrong, and is not infallible in everything he says or does.
- The Catholic Church has condemned Freemasonry and all its siblings. It is still condemned to this day (”The faithful, who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion…” 1983 document Quaesitum est).
- The Catholic Church in her members is VERY corrupt today. The Church is infiltrated with enemies who have taken on high positions. However; the Catholic faith is crystal clear and available to anyone who avails themselves of it.
- Don’t base your faith on people, but on God.
- There are very many Catholic faithful and clerics who are fighting the New World Order.
- Anybody who knows anything about the New World Order AND Catholicism, laugh at how foolish many of the conspiracy theories are since the corruption of the Vatican is public knowledge.
Catholic-Educated Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
You need to think a little deeper yourself. Don’t forget that the Holy Roman Empire was virtually a world government unto itself. They, the Catholic Church, is merely an old and outdated control structure based on the myth of a God-man. This new system is virtually the same with a new idol to worship – Mother Earth.
In the old way, we were full of sin and needed to pray to the sun for forgiveness (along with forfeiting all of our assets to the high priests.) In the new way, scientists and experts are our high priests and we are accused of raping our mother (Oedipus Rex, anyone?). Of course we still must forfeit our assets but we must also forfeit our lives (depopulation).
The world is not as complicated as our Wizards of Oz like to pretend it is. They just need to confuse us in order to fleece and control us.
Jim Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
No serious scholar believes that non-sense. It’s like watching Expelled by Ben Stein, and the counter they have to Intelligent Design is crystals(!) riding on the backs of water. Which is more blind faith? Theories based on historical documentation, or theories based on anti-religious bias. EVERYTHING can be explained as some ancient myth humans made up. What are the documented historical events, though.
Catholic-Educated Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:39 am
No serious scholar believes what nonsense? I’m not saying that their isn’t a Creator, logic dictates that something cannot come from nothing. Evolution is itself another religion, otherwise it wouldn’t require belief . . it would just be fact. I’ve never seen anything evolve (except for technology) although I have seen things adapt. People often fail to realize that evolution is a vertical change and adaptation is a horizontal change. One does not prove the other.
If you are trying to tell me that the God-man story (of which there are many) is held up by “serious scholars” as factual than I have to laugh. Its not only patently ridiculous on its surface its patently dangerous on a much deeper level. Its unfortunate that we allow our fellow man to take a somewhat universal understanding (that we were created and that there is a meaning to life) and hijack it for their own selfish means.
Sui Juris Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:47 am
So now you are saying that the Pope was not in the Hitler youth camps?
Holy crap, I thought I was the conspiracy guy….
July 14th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Sounds like a lot of media-brainwash going on in these comments! Know your enemy!
http://www.zenit.org/article-26440?l=english
July 14th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Why should we give a RATsinger’s patoot what he says, and we should rebuke and boycott any mainstream news agency (which we should be doing anyhow) that talks about Mr. 666 and relays what he says. The name Ratzinger was originally spelled with an “S” rather than with a “Z”, and with that spelling it adds to 666. The way to count it up is apply 6 (the Biblical number of man) to the letter ‘a’, and 12 to b, 18 to c and so on. Threfore ‘z’ would be 26 x 6
The pope’s official headdress has ‘Vicar of God’ in Latin on it and the roman numerals of it add to 666.
duke of omaha Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
William Morgan= American Idiot deluxxe.
Ronda Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 7:53 am
I’ve heard of many other names that also add up to 666.
July 14th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
I listened to the radio broadcast and I think the best point to take from this is that Alex and Co. were good enough to reverse there original position and publish this article because a listener called in to correct Alex. Disagree with religion and Catholicism but recognize that it does stand against eugenics and that there is a power voice publically speaking out against global governance.
July 14th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
I’ve never posted on these comment pages before, but I have to say that this article is non-sense. The pope clearly called for world government. Think objectively here…if David Rockefeller said the following, there would be no apologists arguing that he was not calling for world government:
The pope called for “a world political authority” to be “vested with effective power” and to “have the authority to ensure compliance with its decisions.” He stated that the so-called “family of nations” must “acquire real teeth.”
Again, if anybody else said this, there would be nobody calling the show arguing that this is not a call for world government, and this article would not exist. But since it’s peoples’ religious leader…
Think rationally, friends.
I wrote this right after the encyclical was issued before I read any of the debate on the subject:
http://civicsnews.blogspot.com.....-must.html
Thanks for entertaining my input on the comments page.
–Scott
Jim Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Scott,
Check your statement again and compare it with what Pope Benedict is talking about. When the United States was formed did the States lose their sovereignty? According to Alex, no. But they formed a confederation, a new nation with a central political authority which would be “vested with effective power” and to “have the authority to ensure compliance with its decisions.” This new nation was to be a “family of states” but it joined together so that they could “acquire real teeth” in their relations in the world. The point is that the United States ideally would not subvert the freedom of the states, and the power of the central authority was clearly stated. The USA in fact has a system based on subsidiarity, local control. Even if you disagree with the idea set out by the Pope, you must admit according to logic that his stated idea is not the same as Rockefeller’s which is a government which has “sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers” over “national auto-determination”. Pope Benedict advocates subsidiarity which is auto-determination down to the most local competent level, but also centralized authority for those tasks which cannot be performed effectively at a more immediate or local level. This is merely a reflection of our development as a species. People have gathered together and formed authorities to achieve a higher aim than would be achieved alone. Individual > Family > Tribe > City-State > Nation-State > World-State?. The idea of a world-state with subsidiarity as a principle I don’t see as a contradiction. Certainly people would disagree if it is prudent, good, achievable, etc.
Scott Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 8:32 am
I didn’t say the pope’s ideas were identical to the Rockefellers, did I. I just said the pope called for world government, and you acknowledged that fact in your comment above. What type of world government the pope wants may be different from the Rockefellers, but the fact remains that he called for world government just as much as the Constitution created a federal government (to use your analogy).
I whole-heartedly reject the idea of a world state. I’m surprised you’d see this as an option, as an infowars reader. But dissenting viewpoints are always good for truth-seekers to confront, so I welcome it.
The pope’s defenders must first admit that he called for a world government, which I appreciate you did, and then we can get about the business of debating the merits of a world government.
Jim Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
The whole world-state concept intrigues me. I think humans are bound to develop a world-state. With that in mind, though, I think humanity is wholly on the wrong path for that world-state to be anything but tyrannical at this time. This I believe mostly for religious reason. Humanity is entranced in Godlessness and materiality — we want to be God and build heaven on earth. God will not bless any world-state man develops at this time, even if the Pope calls for it. I don’t think the Pope has ill-will also. Just like Gandolf the Grey, he, or whoever he has in mind to run the world government authority, would want to use the “one ring” for good. But with Gandolf can we declare that it cannot be used for good? (I use this analogy, but I don’t think the world government topic is as black and white as the “one ring of power” but certainly there are many useful analogies. Plus Tolkien was a good Catholic who I think foresaw our time in a myriad of ways.)
God bless!
July 14th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Its crazy how people think Jesus is God, despite the fact that HE never said anything indicating that. He says (paraphrase) “unto you Children of Israel, your god is ONE…” and says many things which indicate he isn’t GOD, and LET ALONE, he bows down in worship…to who… HIMSELF ????
Jesus, the son of Mary is a PROPHET sent to CHILDREN OF ISRAEL ONLY …as he states and didnt come with any religion but instead came to filter out the corruption that man had done to words of God in Torah. When he died, His message was tampered with and corrupted by mankind and they called him “God” whereas again HE NEVER STATES THAT .. i challenge anyone to find me a Clear statement stated by Jesus in Bible… and no interpretion of something he states because he wouldnt make something hard on people and use metaphors when it comes to such matter as worshipping others beside ONE TRUE GOD…
ps ..also when Jesus (may God sent peace upon him) was on Cross…. who was he supplicating to…himself ..his other half or what.. again People there is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD worthy of worship and He God of Adam, Abrahman, Mose, Jesus and Muhammad (may peace & blessings of Allah (One True God) be upon them all)..
Any questions please visit ..www.freequran.com .. read it with unbias mind and you will find peace and tranquility like you never felt before.. if u really Love Jesus than Read what The quran says about him in Chapter MARYam or chapter Al-Imran ..which tell true story of Jesus (may peace and blessings of God be upon him) ..
Ur brother (in humanity)
PEace
observer Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
You are free to believe as you wish Sir. And I wish you well. However you are
MISTAKEN about your assertions concerning Christ. When Jesus was tempted in the
desert by the evil one, Jesus specifically admonished, NOT to tempt the Lord God. He
was referring to himself.
All the titles that Jesus called HIMSELF are those that belong to God. Some of them
are found in the Old Testament. They are “The Lord of the Sabbath” “The Christ” “The
Messiah”. This is significant in that in the Old Testament, GOD is said to be the savior.
Jesus also called himself the Alpha and the Omega. Said another way, he was calling
himself the beginning and the end. Which again is a title that belongs to God. In the
Book of John, Thomas, sees the risen Christ and calls him his God. And there is no
rebuke from Jesus. If He was just a prophet from God, he would have corrected
Thomas.
Where is your proof that the New Testament has been tampered with? Are you an
expert in New Testament Greek manuscripts? If so can you explain the difference in
cuneiform and uncial manuscripts? What is the significance of Taitian’s Diatesseron?
The fact is that there are more documents to back up the verity of the New Testament
than any other piece of literature from antiquity.
With all due respect to Mohammed; who would be a better witness to the life of Christ?
The apostles who gave up the lives to hideous deaths for their personal EYEWITNESS
of Jesus’ life – meaning His Divinity, death and resurrection? Or Mohammed who was
writing about 600 years after the fact?
Feel free to believe what you wish. And know that you have every right to those beliefs.
But just as you feel certain in your beliefs about Jesus. There are others who feel
confident in their beliefs about him as well and can back up the reasons for those
beliefs with sound scholarship.
Veritas Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 5:25 am
What did Jesus mean when He said “before Abraham was, I AM”? Why did He use the words I AM? That sounds like a strange term, doesn’t it? Why do you think He used those partuculat words? And why did the Jews get so angry over this that they wanted to kill Him? And why did Thomas, after the resurrection, fall on his knees in front of Jesus and say “My Lord and My God”? And when He said this, did Jesus correct Him? If not, why not?
BelieveIT Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
He did not say I AM. He said I am. And so did many other people in the Bible and in the Greek scriptures. Were they all God? Some translate the original text as “before Abraham was, I have been” or “before Abraham was, I was” What is important is not what it looks like in English, but the intent of the original text. Strike 1
While it may seem on the surface that Thomas was calling Jesus “my God”, is it possible that there is another meaning here rather than what you stipulate? absolutely.
If you create a free email account for the sole purpose of this, I will share scripture whith you which rebuts your Jesus=God assertion, and maybe we can have an interesting conversation… If you decide to do that, leave yer address here and Ill get back to you.
I do believe in the Bible, and that Jesus was God’s son, just as he claimed.
Observer brings up a good point about Mohammad writing 600 yrs after the fact.
July 14th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and I would like to say that Pope Benedict is against world government. The previous pope, Karol Wojtyla (JPII) however had no such attitudes. He was FOR world government. And Malachi Martin, a Church insider with vast connections in the Vatican more than adequately documented and proved Pope John Paul II was FOR world government. THE KEYS OF THIS BLOOD is the book where he laid out his case.
It doesn’t mean Ratzinger is following in Wojtyla’s footsteps. But I’m not yet convinced that he isn’t following in his footsteps.
As for rank and file Catholics. Those that are sincere in their faith are ALSO true Christians who love Christ Jesus. And to say otherwise is patently unfair. They are members of the Body of Christ, just as are committed Protestant Christians and faithful Eastern (Greek) Orthodox Christians. All are members of the same family.
That having been said, most Roman Catholic Christians are also against world government and the NWO. And perusing their social activist journals would prove this.
July 15th, 2009 at 2:48 am
Don’t deny the crusades war! Don’t deny the Catholic Churchs huntdown against the Cathars, the Gnostics, the good witches, and those who opposed the Roman catholic church!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFR-BfG-qWA this video I compiled myself to prove to people that the NWO does exist from other NWO youtube videos, I gathered from a rarer YouTube video of the new pope at around christmas time wants a new world order of the economy and something else.
Don’t deny that hitler was with the pope in a few pictures! Don’t deny that the olde dictator that wanted a statue of himself with a radio tower was all because of the pope after land was given to the vatican by a dictator.
Don’t deny that the censored alternative gospels and only allowed 4 and left out Mary, Judas, Thomas, Phil, and others.
What about all the rejected books? What were they trying to hide from us?
Why have a secret library? would a loving caring pope hide so much knowledge from the people out of fear of losing members from the church? Being the largest corporation in the world! The Vatican City is one of the 3 central points of control, washington D.C, Vatican City, and inner lodon are the three main control points of pure power.
BelieveIT Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
HEY! Ive been looking for those!
People keep telling me about omitted gospels and I haven’t found them anywhere… can you post a link to them? And which Judas was it that wrote a missing gospel? the one that committed suicide?
Peace
July 15th, 2009 at 3:02 am
Don’t you understand! The very reason the Illuminati got as bad as it did was all the Popes fault, because they were being oppressed so much that the Illuminati were being driven more underground and that made them feel more powerful and evil. They could worship anybody they wanted to or be worshipped and become gods themselves.
All this humans being god crap would never have happened if advanced technology and rare information was not suppressed by governments and religions. The Pope was one of the biggest information suppressors of human history and of all time! Knowledge is meant to be shared so it can help humanity, no condemned to a secret library. How do you explain that huh! Aren’t those who follow god are suppose to be humble! People had to hide biblical scrolls because of the crusade wars!
The Pope is a fraud and somebody working within prisonplanet is a Bilderberg mole! I have noticed this since Sane banned my account and when I attempted to protest it got nowhere because there are a few prisonplanet moderators working with the Bilderbergs, Illuminati, and the pope. There are a few bad apples claiming to follow Alex Jones when in reality some are trying to screw Alex Jones up with articles defending the pope and certain other characters.
I know that some of Alex’s very enemies are working within his own group, infiltrated it without Alex knowing. I tried to warn him that somebody is sabotashing his group and banned me to get me angry and turn me against Alex Jones but his call did not get forwarded to him.
July 15th, 2009 at 3:09 am
I got a few intel about some of the mods working at prisonplanet, some of his staff are playing along and are going to do something awful to him when the time is right! Sane was always suspicious when he acted like a forum dictator, I believe he is a mole that leaks intel on Alex while censoring those that bring out tooooooo much. I always been attacked in many forums but in certain elite few I was able to get the truth out against the Bilderbergs without mod attacks.
The Bilderbergs are paying and hiring more disinfo agents and false moderators to pretend they are all for the truth but ban those who break rules can actually plant evidence to get people banned and arrested.
Sane banned me for no reason or he planted evidence that I am guilty against prisonplanet because my last comment before I was banned was saying that I would flee to a mountain and raise a army of policeman to arrest the Bilderbergs and have them all arrested. I never would do anything against my country, all because of how that comment sounded, I was branded a banned person while he makes it look like my account is still active he banned me secretly.
BEWARE! of Sane the forum moderator and beware of some of the article writters here, you never know if they haven’t already infiltrated prisonplanet and are monitoring our every activity by accessing and hacking log files by gaining access to prisonplanet network servers by those who Alex thought he could trust. Beware of shills and Moles Alex! I will pray that you will be protected from forces trying to screw you up.
July 15th, 2009 at 3:13 am
Just remember they banned killtown and btacel and they done nothing wrong and wants Alex Jones to win against the Bilderbergs! Remember their rants and protests against Sane! They aren’t cowards, why is Sane afraid of them? Because Sane works for the Bilderbergs and they don’t want Alex to talk to them because it will ruin Alex from looking crazy. They got inside videos and make him look crazy under fake accounts on YouTube. I am watching you Sane! your not hiding forever eventually they will be unbanned by Just forces they realize the mistake of two innocent users being banned.
July 15th, 2009 at 4:29 am
This article is a cover-up by Alex Jones. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVe3p0vCsxQ
Why is it that Jones always covers for the papacy? Is he one of them? I do not know. Somebody is lying!
July 15th, 2009 at 6:10 am
some people need leaders but all we have had are rich, greedy, lazy ,lying, stealing, overpaid ,over vacationed, tax stealing ,useless, old, bastards , you know who you are
July 15th, 2009 at 8:03 am
Thank God. I always thought he was on our side in spite of the “news” which is just mind-control.
He made it quite impossible for a world government to happen, because it would have to have integrity!
Here in the U.S. we can’t even get our Federal government to stop lying to us and mass murdering us.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:53 am
The pope wears the headress of the fish god Dagon.
YouTube “passing the hat”.
July 15th, 2009 at 11:32 am
If the “pope” was really a follower of Christ, he would be preaching about the Kingdom of God, not man’s kingdoms. Jesus did not get involved in politics. He did not try to change the world, except to help others come to have a chance at everlasting life.
Peace
July 15th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Thanks for this clarification. Some people tend to read the encyclical like do fundamentalists with the Bible, extracting one verse and commenting it outside its contexte and the whole of the Bible. The whole must be considered for a honest comment.
July 16th, 2009 at 3:17 am
Is this a joke?I read the enzyclica in german language(i am from Austria)
Come on,the pope says that we need a NWO.Here the german version:
[url]http://www.dbk.de/imperia/md/content/pressemitteilungen/2009-1/2009-089a_caritas_in_veritate-dt.pdf[/url]
Vatikan is the whore of babylon!!!One of the two horns!!!
July 18th, 2009 at 11:08 am
If any of you are interested in reading more (and more clearly stated) about subsidiarity and distributism, which are only touched on in this encyclical, read (to name a few):
- Rerum Novarum (1891), Leo XIII
- Quadragesimo Anno, Pius XI
- The Outline of Sanity (1927), G. K. Chesterton
- Utopia of Usurers (1917), G. K. Chesterton
- The Servile State (1912), Hilaire Belloc
- An Essay on The Restoration of Property, Hilaire Belloc
Also
- Vincent McNabb
- E. F. Schumacher
- Dorothy Day (Catholic Worker essays)
As I am reading this further there are many good points brought up, but the text is a mangled mess because it tries to reconcile Catholic principles with the behemoth super-state that is coming about. It seems it would have been better if the Pope advocated strongly for the big cartels to be broken up and control to be returned back to the local level. I think the NWO globalists are purposely trying to make it SEEM like nothing less than a “global authority” can handle the mess we’re in. God help us all!
July 20th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
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July 24th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Let’s help Ron Paul to “Audit The Fed” which will in this challenging run, help us get rid of the NWO! He is in the process of Step 2!
Step 2: Your Senator
HR 1207’s identical companion bill in the Senate is known as S 604, the Federal Reserve Sunshine Act, sponsored by Sen. Bernie Sanders.
If your Senator is not on the following list of S 604 co-sponsors, call their offices, write to them, email them. Let them know they need to support S 604. If you live in their district, let them know. Go to their office.
S 604 Co-Sponsors (as of 7/21/2009)
Sen Barrasso, John [WY] – 7/15/2009
Sen Bennett, Robert F. [UT] – 7/15/2009
Sen Brownback, Sam [KS] – 7/8/2009
Sen Burr, Richard [NC] – 7/9/2009
Sen Chambliss, Saxby [GA] – 7/8/2009
Sen Coburn, Tom [OK] – 7/20/2009
Sen Cornyn, John [TX] – 7/20/2009
Sen Crapo, Mike [ID] – 6/25/2009
Sen DeMint, Jim [SC] – 6/11/2009
Sen Feingold, Russell D. [WI] – 7/15/2009
Sen Harkin, Tom [IA] – 7/20/2009
Sen Hutchison, Kay Bailey [TX] – 7/20/2009
Sen Inhofe, James M. [OK] – 7/9/2009
Sen Isakson, Johnny [GA] – 7/8/2009
Sen Lincoln, Blanche L. [AR] – 7/15/2009
Sen McCain, John [AZ] – 7/15/2009
Sen Vitter, David [LA] – 6/16/2009