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Rangel To Push Universal Military Draft Legislation Once More
The draft still won’t blow away
Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Thursday, Jan 15th, 2009
Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) has said that he will most likely reintroduce legislation to reinstate the universal military draft this year.
Asked if he plans to introduce the legislation again in 2009, Rangel last week said, “Probably … yes. I don’t want to do anything this early to distract from the issue of the economic stimulus.” according to an article featured in The Hill yesterday.
Rangel will therefore once again push the idea that everyone in America should be forced by law to work for the government for at least two years, either for no pay or for minimal pay.
Rangel last introduced the bill in 2006 immediately after the Democrats won control of Congress. The bill attracted virtually no support and was passed off as merely a “political statement” regarding the Iraq war by leading Democrats such as Nancy Pelosi.
However, Rangel has previously lauded the reality of a military draft, saying that it would bolster U.S. troop levels insufficient to cover potential future action in Iran, North Korea and Iraq.
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Rangel has consistently pushed for legislation on conscription in the past.
In 2003, he proposed a measure covering people age 18 to 26. This year, he offered a plan to mandate military service for men and women between age 18 and 42; it went nowhere in the Republican-led Congress.
We have previously pointed out how Rangel’s insistent efforts to keep this issue in the body politic is allied to an underlying framework that provides for a rapid and extensive implementation of conscription, be it on the continent or within the 4th Reich of America in the form of Homeland Security Gestapo squads.
The issue came to the fore recently with newly discovered details regarding Rahm Emanuel and Barack Obama’s plans for compulsory community service and a “national civilian security force”.
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January 15th, 2009 at 11:44 am
With all of the changes this nation has suffered in the last 30 years, military draft my be the only thing that gives our future generations some idea of how to live. Some look at drafts as a desperate act of a desperate nation. They are right. But more so than that, our children are more and more reticent, have no concept of discipline and honor, and are ill prepared for what life will surely bring them in the next twenty years.
Military service is not service to our government. It is service to our nation, and our nation, so strong it is, was founded on military might and the heart and hands of capable and competent men.
I wore that uniform for seven years, no experience I have had prior or since has educated me so completely.
The creed “to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies; foreign and domestic.” is the cornerstone ideal of a true Patriot.
A mandatory two year draft for all able bodied men after high school will make a smarter and stronger nation in all ways. We have lost sight of what we are.
If anything, take the training. Get strong, be hard. Be thou not such a pussy.
Daywalker Reply:
January 15th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
You may have joined to server our nation, but it’s the Government who told you who to fight, where to fight, and when to fight.
It is an honor to defend one’s country. But to fulfill greedy politician’s agendas, not so much.
“A mandatory two year draft for all able bodied men after high school will make a smarter and stronger nation in all ways.”
That is, if they aren’t all killed!
Did you forget that Americans have “freedom of choice”? Where’s the “freedom” in “mandatory”?
Liberal slapper Reply:
January 20th, 2009 at 10:25 am
So you don’t like what the great demo-crap is doing don’t vote for them!!!
zsa Reply:
January 31st, 2009 at 6:08 am
it is just their way of getting free workers, period,
they are doing just what russia does no different, calling it service to the nation
bs
russia forced you to be in the army when you were 18, now rangal bo all want the same, they have been following the communist saul alinsky playbook, why do you think ayers and wright are so thrilled their pal obama took over the white house
stole it..bought it…watch this stimulus is not stim, it is to payback anyone who helped him win..period wake up
end of times are here and you morons are sleeping and letting him do this
Observer Reply:
January 15th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
I can train myself without the mandatory aide of a military structure. That you seem to need said structure tells me how weak willed you may be. This nation is NOT strong, at ALL, and your “military training” clearly has clouded your better judgment and discernment. If you have had no better or more fulfilling education or experiences beyond the military, then you sir need to have a look at yourself and why that is. The military depends on people willing to “just follow orders.” Sure, enlisted folks are suppose to refrain from following bad orders, but how often does that occur these days? If you are one of those folks, fine you are to be commended. But, you are no better a person from being in the military vs some one who has not. That all depends on the person themselves and how they handle their experiences. You have no business projecting your positive experience of the military onto others by support mandatory conscription as a benefit to all. If this is your mind set, and your idea of “patriot” then you sir are more of a burden to freedom than an asset.
Observer Reply:
January 15th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Oh, in case any other ignoramus wishes to call upon the constitution to support this stupid idea:
“Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime where of the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.” — Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
Unclesam poster: I spit at your feet in response to your support of mandatory military or paramilitary service.
Mike in Michigan Reply:
January 15th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Observer, you are one dumn fool. I’d bet anything when the shit hits the fan you’ll be cowering in a hole somewhere. I can tell you’re one of those keyboard tough guys. Got all the answers to everything but you yourself have probably done next to nothing. If you had served, you’d know what UncleSam was talking about. But as usual, you let your alligator mouth overload your canonball ass. I sure wouldn’t want a jackass like you watching my back.
UncleSam Reply:
January 15th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Thank you, Mike. You sound like an intelligent man.
As the directive of our government is to promote the general welfare, we all must have a hand in that. How can you be proud of a building if you were not in the construction of it? What hath your hand wrought in this world, Observer?
K dubya Reply:
January 15th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
HEIL UNKEL SAHM! with your ideas well all be heiling our favorite politicans soon right? mike ………a whole paragraph? its not 1939 you idiots, the aim should be to end the violence worlwide wich could be done if all humans were actually treated equally by EVERY political body, how about mandatory physical training and prep schooling instead of mandatory military service? that would be too pussy right? why dont the major superpowers of the world lead by examples of peace and equality with the billions we put into murdering people and ass fucking their countries and make them genuinely like us so those who dont want us around are the minorities(schools? colleges? hospitals? better infrastructure?)? why dont you get the gun barrel out of your asses and stop jerking off to old war movies and see the more you support the military in any way your simply helping dilute the adversity and creativity of the human race, honor? discipline? what the fuck this isnt hogans heroes, the problem with people like both of you are instead of helping to create new ways to deal with the problems in the world you constantly ponder on shit to make the old ways better, like i said instead of innovating you worry about fixing sytems THAT DO NOT WORK. nationalism is and always will be the scourge of the human race, how about fuck the united states military(post-1947)..fuck the united states air force(post 1947), fuck the united states navy(post-1947), fuck the united states marines(post-1947), fuck the united states coast guard(post-1947), and fuck the united states national guard(post-1947).and dont get me wrong with your ignorance but im in no way disrespecting the men and women whove been manipulated to put their lives on the line for absolutely nothing for the past 60 years, its the institutions themselves that need to be abolished, HEY TELL ME HOW STUPID AND HOW MUCH OF A PUSSY I AM, IM JUST A JACASS WHO JABBERS OVER KEYBOARDS!!!
Observer Reply:
January 16th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
MikeinMich and unclesam: You know nothing of my ways and your statements only proved how blind you are. You’re statement is clear…you support mandatory 2-year draft out of high school. Where is the freedom that you supposedly served to protect in that? Fools. YOU CAN’T MANDATE GOOD OR HONORABLE BEHAVIOR! Just because you signed up to have your mind warped into thinking you are doing some good by following orders from some jack ass that hardly knows better than you, doesn’t mean you have wrought anything of value either save the experiences you may have gotten out it for your own benefit. As for cowering in corners…only fools with a fear of death do that. I cower not in the face of the inevitable. As for serving and what I’ve wrought: I serve no one and will wrought as I will when the time comes. May you’re support of slavery and servitude to dark deceivers lead you to a quick death at the hands of one that values freedom and dignity.
PS: the government’s SPOKEN, public directive is for the general welfare…however the practical application of said directive has much to be desired. Let me dumb that down for your programmed mind: THEY FUCKING LIED TO YOU!
LogicalAssault Reply:
January 16th, 2009 at 4:48 am
Dude! Are you freakin blind to the corruption of the world system. This has a dictatorship connotation to it with a splash of tyranny. The global elite have no honor. You’ve heard of the saying of” No honor amongst thieves”,well thats what they are. Man being a pussy for not wanting this has nothing to do with it. Wake up dude.
INFERNO Reply:
January 16th, 2009 at 8:43 am
HEY,
Uncle Sam,Fuck you and anyone else with a compliance plan,
Can’t you see that the whole damn world is becoming a police state and this would surely seal the deal on that,it’s almost to the point in America that if you aren’t in the military or a cop you won’t have a job,
“L@@K @PEN Y@UR EYES”,
You can’t be a “FREE” individual if you are forced into servitude dumb ass,this kind of thought could be compared to the slaves that were offered freedom if they fought in the civil war,history repeating itself again,this is Mao at the least,and Hitler at the highest level,,
here,
Read this,get to know your government before you decide to stand behind them,,
http://www.hermes-press.com/germany1930.htm
You morons have got your idea of what “Freedom” means “ALL SCREWED UP”,
And to this fucking useless Fuckstick Rangel,You want a draft,?
“LINE UP THOSE KIDS AND GRANDKIDS OF YOURS AND BE AN EXAMPLE FOR YOUR CAUSE”,,,
SINCE YOUR OLD WRINKLED ASS WOULDN’T LAST 10 MINUTES ON THE BATTLEFIELD BEFORE YOU WERE TAKEN OUT BY FRIENDLY FIRE,
Hmm,
might be what would happen to his offspring too,
I have a WAY better idea,
how about “We the People”,go ahead and do our own training,to defend ourselves against “Y@U”?
The draft won’t work nowadays,you’ll have people out there shooting their commanding officers,they didn’t learn anything from Vietnam did they?
INFERNO
Adreamtosome Reply:
January 16th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Go right ahead, sign your ass up then. One less idiot we have to convince.
GO ON, GO ON…SIGN UP!!!
BOMBS AWAY ASSHOLE!!!
Goodam Reply:
January 18th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Two things here
You are either extremely naive or one of them
listen to this and listen very carefully, a Government, any Government, will never ever ever propose something for your own good, or the good of the people.
How can you believe them and trust them after all this??
Are out of your mind?
Now if you are one of them of course you would try and make it sound as a good thing.
Some people are just unbelievable,
mike age 22 Reply:
February 11th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Be thout no such an Asshole.
The government has no power, there power comes only from the people who are willing to give it too them. We make the choice to pay taxes, we make the choice to obey laws, we make the choice to fight in a war. It is these choices to give the government power where the government gets it’s power. So essentially, the government has no significant power. Defiing the illegal goverments is where we need peoples courage to be placed.
“I swear to protect the constitution in face of my enemies HOME and abroad.”
January 15th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Welcome slavery for all of the years of apathy! Thou be a SLAVE!
January 15th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
The military draft is the Zionist NWO order’s way of getting rid of all the young men of America whom they have impoverished by a financial crisis they engineered and who now pose the greatest threat to them if they organise and rebell.
Service in this army will be a death sentence. Soldiers will be sent of to fight wars for the Zionists. If the goyims are killed, all the better. The racistTalmud states as its aim to exterminate the non Jews. We have to take that seriously.
Soldiers will be sent off to Mexico to crush the “drug bandits” and impose the North American Union. Or they will be sent off to Pakistan, to fight against Russia or even to be the footsoldiers of Israel in the Middle East.
They will not be able to stay home and defend themselves, their families, their future or their country once a universal military draft is imposed.
With the young men wiped out, the rest of America will soon follow.
Americans need to sue in the courts on the basis of their constitutional rights to stop this.
Congress and Senate are so corrupted they always side with the Zionist new world order.
Legislation has to be blocked in COURTS by legal action.
I bet Rangel is one of the same freemason/Bilderberg clique that is now moving to control the world. The impoverished Americans can no longer supply money to them in the form of taxes but they can at least give their blood for them.
This is not a military draft to build up the US military to serve American people’s interests.
It is a killing machine that will mash up the lives of young Americans. They have to serve the NWO’s purpose by fighting the NWO enemies.
Americans need to get their rights back, their political system honest, and then you could talk about a universal military draft.
Not now under these gangsters!
Goodam Reply:
January 18th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Absolutely
I simply cannot believe some people, after all what’s happened, and still happening, and yet they still believe that something good will ever come out of this government or any government for that matter.
Yes it is a death sentence for all the young men and women, remember when Cheney was confronted about 4000 young Americans were killed and 1.5 million Iraqis, he said
“And so what”!!!
I don’t believe it
January 15th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
So you worked hard for that college degree, you worked hard to get your first home…and you end up in the army on a pittance pay! Thanks Rangel. I bet you’re not gong to serve.
January 15th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
This a prison sentence. Or a death sentence for America’s next generations.
January 15th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
What’s the difference between mandatory service and involuntary servitude? Answer; there is no difference. They are the same thing. And involuntary servitude was banned by the 13th amendment, over 140 years ago. The 13th amendment made it possible for Barack Obama to become the president of the United States instead of a cotton picker on an Alabama plantation. How ironic it would be if he signed into law a bill which would overturn that amendment.
However, I almost hope he will pass such a law. That might send a wakeup call to the morons who voted for him.
January 15th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Why do we need an army of conscripts? The volunteer army system is working so this is just dumb.
January 15th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
i and my familiy will never serve under a forced conscription
if people refuse they can t be successful
i refuse to serve in obama s fourth reich
i guess thats what all the internment camps are for
obama is the devil
Winyan Staz Reply:
January 15th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Excuse me? What planet are you from? Obama personnally did NOT build those camps, the last four regimes of the neocons did.
Obama is not even sworn in yet so how can you blame him for this mess?
That said, I am also against drafts..unless the children and grandchildren of our leaders are drafted first and must serve as cannon fodder for the front lines. Otherwise, we need our people here at home now.
If there is a draft, by all means…go, get your training, get your guns and then put a stop to the rise of the fourth reiche from within. I say this as a draft is nothing but a form of slavery.
Why should a citizen be a slave to the government? The government is supposed to be our servant, NOT our masters.
Rather let us pass a law stating that all polititians must be first in battle before they can draft others.
Citizens volunteer or go into civil service to serve the government now..there is no need for an involuntary slavery to the government to be set up and if we allow it..we deserve what will be coming next.
Any polititian that says we need to be slaves to the state, needs to resign.
January 15th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
I am currently serving in the army and I think this idea is ridiculous. You can’t force people into service who don’t want to do it. I think it would destroy the armed forces. I wouldn’t want my kids or my brother to be forced to serve in the military against their will.
INFERNO Reply:
January 16th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
very honest and good point,
Vietnam was a war fought with a forced military and they failed miserably there,no matter what the history books say about it,
it was a disaster for this country….
This forced service will be the same result,,
If this dipshit gets the draft passed through legislation,I “hope” as soon as the first wave of recruits get the chance to have a rifle in their hand,they go on a shooting spree,and eliminate about half of everybody that thinks this is a good idea,I think this might be the breaking point of a lot of Americans,they are realizing that shit isn’t right…wait till the government starts trying to draft their kids,hell these kids nowadays are just as armed as the police,maybe more so…might be interesting,this may be that event that triggers the “Revolution”
INFERNO
January 15th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Lets all watch the jews avoid the draft. They always jew!
Mike Rowley Reply:
January 15th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Thats what it is all about. The Goy fighting and dying for Zionism, while the Jew boys sit at home. When will we wise up and stop bleeding and dying for Jewish interests?
January 15th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
The worst aspect of forced entry into the military is the mandatory “vaccine” injections. The Gulf War veterans are sick and dying. Next the Iraq War veterans will begin to show symptoms. Ignoring the politics and purpose, my son would enjoy pounding the ground for the Marine Corps or flying for the Air Force. However, he’s not going if it means he’ll die at age 35 from the injections. The strategy of the current U.S. military is to exploit the youth for NWO gains, but then to terminate them 10 to 15 years later via the delayed effects of the disease inducing injections.
January 15th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
They need the draft to push down unemployment numbers. There will be numerous loopholes so the priviliged will not have to actually serve in the military. The lower class and poor will get screwed on this one. So much for freedom of choice. YOU CAN LOVE YOUR country and be a patriot and not be in the military. Both my brothers served, but I chose not to it just wasn’t for me. The military leaders are not for it. Would you want to be in charge of an organization with a large percentage fo people who do not want to be there?This is a bad idea.
Anon. of Ibid. Reply:
January 16th, 2009 at 1:05 am
Ooooh! Devious.
January 15th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
anti draft song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page
January 15th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
REPLY:
DEAR “UNCLE SAM”, YOU OBVIOUSLY STILL WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT AND HAVE NO CONCEPT OF WHAT A REAL PATRIOT IS. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN YOU MORON?
“TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION? ( YOUR NAZI BOSS SHREDDED THE CONSTITUTION WHEN HE PENNED THE PATRIOT ACT WITHOUT CONGRESS) AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC”? THIS WENT OUT THE DOOR WHEN THE GOVERNMENT STARTED MAKING OUR TROOPS WARE FOREIGN FLAGS OF THE UN AND SWEAR ALLEGIANCE TO THE UN ONLY. YOU SIR ARE A LIAR AND HAVE NEVER KNOWN WHAT IT IS LIKE TO LOSE A LOVED ONE, SO THAT THE RICH CAN PROTECT THERE OIL AQUISITIONS? YOU ARE A PAID FOR FOOL, SO PULL YOUR RETARDED HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND WAKE UP. YOUR BOSS COMMITTED TREASON WENT HIS FAMILY CREATED 911.(LOOK UP THE CARLYLE GROUP, OSAMA AND FAMILY ARE ALL BUSH FRIENDS AND BUSINESS PARTNERS SINCE THE 90′S) THEY MURDERED INNOCENT AMERICAN PEOPLE SO SHUT YOUR FREAKEN SUCK. UNTIL WE HAVE JUSTICE FOR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY YOU GO TO HELL WITH YOUR DRAFT.
January 15th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
“Where am I?”
“In the Military.”
“What do you want?”
“Your life.”
“Whose side are you on?”
“That would be telling…. We want your life, your time, your energy!”
“You won’t get it.”
“By hook or by crook, we will.”
“Who are you?”
“The new Number Two.”
“Who is Number One?”
“You are Number Six.”
“I am not a number — I am a free man!”
“You cannot leave this camp.”
“I will tell you what I am going to do to this camp: I will take up an axe and destroy its doors. I will break down its walls and trample them down.”
“Where will you find anything more secure than this camp? Not one of the people here grows tired of their daily round of fighting and killing for. This house of Satan is run by the Pentagon, by Wall Street, by television and you will never get out. Since you can’t leave, you might as well give in.”
“I have a spirit of my own, a mind of my own, a soul of my own, and it’s not all my own because it’s joined with a greater force beyond me, and I will never give in
“There is no force beyond you. Now you are a soldier in a camp, on the sea, in a wasteland, you will do as I command. “
“You are the enemy.”
“No, your enemy is within you. You accepted the chains.”
“.No. I’ll never accept the chains.”
“Here are you chains. The universal draft are your chains.”
“I will not make any deal with you. I will not be briefed, stamped, numbered, marched around, ordered around by you.”
“You will do as I say. You are Number Six. You will have your vaccination number 322 today.”
“I am not a number, not a number. I am a free man.”
“You are Number Six.”
“Who are you?”
“I am Dennis Rangel, Number Two.”
“Who is Number One.”
January 15th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Economic stimulus and the draft will work hand in hand…
Obama wants to expand our wars into other areas, he’ll need money *the stimulus* and bullet catchers *18-24 year old men and women*. So, he creates a massive amount of civil military jobs, as well as making larger troop pushes into other countries.
The USA no longer makes anything, except WAR… so that seems to me, where the money and jobs will go.
RayB Reply:
January 15th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
You’re wrong and right! The men and women go over-sea and the money goes to Halliburton.
January 15th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Here is what I think if the draft comes into play they will send the young over seas and let them play in the feilds of DU become DNA damaged so they can’t have childern or they will have birth defects. Sure some will die but most if not all will be DU damaged in one way or the other. This could leave the next genaration in bad shape or beyond talk about a bunch of sick people killing us ever so softly. I wonder what makes them think they can’t get damaged from DU when it starts flying around the world becaused they used so much of it to kill with.
January 15th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Red herring.
There will never be a draft. The government always counts on people fearing their own streangth more than it’s opression. The idea that without them we would kill eachother. The nwo will never intentionally cross that line until they realize they have lost.
January 15th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Hey Uncle Sam
Hey Uncle Sam
leave me out of your killing plan
let me tell you just who I am
I’m the man you don’t understand
hey Uncle Sam, hey Uncle Sam
Hey Uncle Sam
your gonna have to go it all alone
cause I aint leaving this ole home
it’s where my roots are deeply sown
hey Uncle Sam, hey Uncle Sam
Hey Uncle Sam
why don’t you stop the flood of blood
and grab that ole telephone
and call them all back home
hey Uncle sam, hey Uncle Sam
Hey Uncle Sam
all them bombs in Vietnam
still didn’t win that foreign war
what are you really fighting for
hey Uncle Sam, hey Uncle Sam
Hey Uncle Sam
we say no to the draft
we don’t like its aftermath
were gonna take the peaceful path
hey Uncle Sam, hey Uncle Sam
We say no to the draft, no no draft
hey Uncle Sam
We say no to the draft, no no draft
hey Uncle Sam
youtube.com/goldieshome
goldieshouse.piczo.com
January 15th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Rangel, whose forefathers were slaves and had to be liberated, wants to put this generation into slavery.
How much did they pay you, Rangel? Did you get it in cash or in the form of favours?
January 15th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Welcome to New Israel !
January 15th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
So many deluded politicians…
The United States can’t afford the military it currently has. And mental giants like Rangel want to make it larger?
If I was broke, up to my eyeballs in debt, losing income barely able to make minimum payments on debt that I had no hope of ever getting out of, I wouldn’t be looking for ways to spend more money.
Here’s the problem: Politicians are desperate to spend government money where it will benefit their constituents and election campaign contributors. Politicians are popularity-whores and they feel that this is a sure-fire way to win popularity.
Most people want their government to stop spending so much money but then vote for attention-hungry pea-brains whose mission in life is to spend public money.
If you’re fed up with being treated like a fool, stop acting like one. Stop running out to vote in elections like a brainwashed primate, stop listening to the grinning idiots on TV, stop using their money and stop supporting their system.
If we stop using their filthy money, the Federal Reserve System will die and their politicians will go with them.
Don’t fight the system:
Replace it
http://socialviability.com/
January 15th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
“America should be forced by law to work for the government for at least two years, either for no pay or for minimal pay.”
I don’t think so. I’m not going to be a gov slave for two years. Period.
January 15th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
And one more thing, EAT ME Rangle!
January 15th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Betcha’ his kids or grand kids don’t have to go!!!
January 15th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
If the draft happens….When they come for our children…. That is when the shooting begins.
REVOLUTION!!!!!
January 15th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Well looks like Mike and poster #1 Uncle Sam, both have been brainwashed into being good little robots.
Here’s a joke for ya Uncle Sam,
how do you get an ex military soldier off your door step?
- Pay him for the pizza.
January 15th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwYzibBTrsk downright surreal NIST
January 15th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Ranger,i agree with your post [and more than a few others]all on these sites need to realise that not all posters are who they pretend to be,uncle sam pays some to flood the sites with their own agenda,so don’t pay too much heed to supposed “military men”we all need to follow our own thinking ,not the thinking of military men who want us to fight for the NWO,who are against thinking individuals.
January 15th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
aha! good idea I’d get a weapon then REBEAL against the military.
January 15th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Thank God for the AWESOME AIR FORCE of the USA!!!! Because of our great Air Force and our Great training a retired USA Air Force Pilot saved 150 lives today in New York!!! USA and Israel ROCK!!! Keep the millitary STRONG!!!! Everyone should thank a soldier!!! GO USA!!!
Anon. of Ibid. Reply:
January 16th, 2009 at 1:13 am
Dude, lay off that crack lolly. How much of that shit do ya need to counter the effects of those injections? By the way, howz the weather over there in Colorado, you Air Farce plant?
January 15th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
perhaps that is what all those concentration camps are for…for those that refuse service…AHAAAA!!!!….see you on the inside…
January 15th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
you are all part of the civilian millita
Gadsden Reply:
January 19th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Amen
January 15th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Ya, you first Rangel… piece of shit. Like we’re not killing people(ours and theirs) fast enough. Where the hell do these bastards come from? How can they do these things? How can they live with themselves? You know what? I don’t think I give a shit. I think they should be shunned by a more peaceful society.
January 15th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
I betcha fat fuck Rangel can’t even do one push up let alone ever serve in the military.
How the fuck do pieces of shit like this get voted into office?
Liberal slapper Reply:
January 20th, 2009 at 10:26 am
One turd vote’s for another.
January 15th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
i’m 36 and they can kiss my ass if they think i’m going to get drafted to fight for to protect the rich scubbags shit!
January 16th, 2009 at 1:23 am
Rangel is a glorified donut. Him calling for a draft is just as schizophrenic as a fascist government utilizing communist directives in policymaking : i.e. America. Or a bi-polar two party system?
January 16th, 2009 at 3:59 am
I hope he is successful: we have a generational opportunity to make a new and better generation of young people with real character and steel. We need to blast them out from under the Playstations and Wii and getting them working for a better world. Obama can do so much but without the youth trained up and their characters built, these ambitions will fail. In short, we need better people.
INFERNO Reply:
January 16th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Hey genius,
this country had opportunity for the youth in the form of the greatest industrial nation on the planet until outsourcing everything to cheap Chinese slave labor,now people like you think forcing everyone into military service will raise the moral of the nation?what a dumb way of thinking…
INFERNO
Goodam Reply:
January 18th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Just one more of people’s liberties to be taken away, nothing to worry about
just a best way to send them to war and get killed.
I just want people to remember one thing, when the war with Iran is declared, not to judge the Iranians as the bastards, but if you are attacked you will defend yourself.
So when you men and women are sent in body bags, Americans should turn their rage and anger to the real killers and criminals.
If you are an Iranian, or any nation and you are attacked, would you defend yourself or not?
January 16th, 2009 at 4:02 am
WAR IS A RACKET, by General Smedley Butler. I agree.
January 16th, 2009 at 4:27 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmXcsaz7BIs copy and spread this before they take it down again
January 16th, 2009 at 4:43 am
Only once ALL of these politicians under 42 and their children and the older ones’ grandchildren are serving for this pittance too.
Including Rothchilds, Roosevelts, Rockerfellas, Kennedys, the Bush twins, Hollywood’s spoiled brats, etc.
BrandonFW Reply:
January 22nd, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Well, my grandfather is ex-air force officer before they had air force. So he was army. But he never saw combat serve 25 years plus 20 with post office. Says military only wants people that want to be in it. People in Washington are stupid. All they do is piss off the people. No draft will happen! Nathan Philip Rothschild should be in military. Give him a gun and say now go fight for daddy’s money. I will pay for the gun and everything. If you live you can keep your blood money.
January 16th, 2009 at 6:46 am
OK you are right. You beat me stupid with you new world governance think.
So the goal for this is to knock off the excessive mutants slaves and any opposition
to our glorious plan to a delightful sadistic death to which we must all celebrate.
Lets make a plan that turn out to our advantage.
The Draft start at the age of 50 all the way till the end.
Just think of all the advantages of this idea ,Good for all.
They make the best soldiers, the reasons are to many and obvious to list,
We take all their treasures and wealth.
It leaves the 18 to 50 slaves to toil in the slave camps for 30 prime working years. WE have no limit to mass numbers of soldiers to fight and slander.
Nobody would care about the dead. They were old and had there good life, so what the fu*k
Follow this line of think.
99.9% of the soldiers would be from the ranks of Politics as they are old and rich. Thats a double winner right there.
It just goes on an on getting better
Lets do it
January 16th, 2009 at 8:38 am
obama times while hes getting sworn guess whats happening?
http://americansfortruth.com/n.....-orgy.html
January 16th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
As an honorably discharged vet who volunteered (over 20 years ago) I can tell you that you DO take a step forward, then raise your right hand and take an oath. Basically you DON’T take your step forward, don’t raise your right hand and don’t take an oath if you don’t want to serve if you get drafted. See this link. http://www.rumormillnews.com/c…..read=63207 . This info needs to be made known to every young person. Read the 13th amendment to the US Constitution. FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS and tell all the young people (draft age) you know.
January 16th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
If Congress wants a war, give them one, as in against them.
With lots of, “collateral damage.”
What the hell is stopping you?
You’re gonna’ die one day anyway.
Live like a human being instead of a cowering dog.
January 17th, 2009 at 12:12 am
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January 17th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
January 17th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
There’s no way we can have strong, dedicated, hard-working young people without strong families and strong communities, which have generally become a thing of the past. What this program is about is brain-washing on a large and direct scale. Apparently 12+ years of public schooling, the media, the video games, etc, have not prevented many people, (especially the drop-outs and misfits) from becoming independent thinkers and questioners of the status quo. That’s why we need the latest mind control techniques used across the board in a controlled environment, so we can accept and even take part in the horrible things these people have planned for us. We need to be trained in fear, in order to justify brutality (for our own protection), just like many Israelis have been trained to believe that the genocide of Palestinians is necessary for their safety and survival.
Goodam Reply:
January 18th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I can’t agree more with you, you said it all
January 17th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
While the process of going into military service may take all individuals, regardless of their physical capability or knowledge of ‘discipline’ and ‘honor, and give unto them experience which will serve them for the rest of their lives, it does not change the absolute fact that compulsory service will see you serving the whims of our federal government. Our federal government, sieged for decades under the weight of powerful, evil, and usurping interests has not, by any argument possible, come to exist as a beneficiary for the general (or pointed) good of humanity. This day and the next, more than any previous time in our country’s history, our government is controlled by the most parasitic evil which does harm to those it opposes and to those used for the opposing. The possible benefits individuals may aquire from serving in the US military is reticent in comparison to the harm that such service enacts–globally and domestically–by empowering the current and future existence of a power structure which has, for all time appropriate, succumbed to the devious wills of it’s evil persuaders. Even if you think the government is not all bad being a mindless servant of evil is in no way apologable.
Individuals have always found many other ways of achieving discipline, ‘honor’, and other such benefits of a military experience. I would suggest martial arts, reading, or joining a militia–possible all of these.
Goodam Reply:
January 18th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
The danger of army, you put yourself right in their hands
Danger number one, is you belong to the state
Danger number two, you can be sent to kill innocent people internally or externally
Danger number three, you will get killed
Danger number four, you will get brain washed
Danger number five, you will get poisned with experimental drugs
There are other dangers, so there’s absolutely no good coming out of the army.
Go and visit the veterans of the previous wars, they live on the streets of the US cities
some gone crazy from excessif use of Drugs, mixt in their food and drinks for years.
some were killed for a bunch of lies
some were poisned for the rest of their lives and it many cases it threatened even their offsprings.
I can go on and on about the dangers, that they are preparing for us.
Who ever thinks that there’s some good coming out of this, he is a fool with a star
If the Americans want to fight this they have to get together with other people from other countries, or you will lose the battle, because the Elite has to be removed from the global chair, or he will come back.
So the Americans need other nations as much as the other people from the rest of the world need them.
We haven’t seen anything yet, probably soon we will see a huge reserve of pure gold appearing in Syria, and from there the WW3 will start.
We need to fight them right now, not in 2 years or even a year, we are running out of time.
We will not fight them with guns, we will fight them by NOT USING THEIR CROOKED SYSTEM, they did not design for us to win they design the game they own the game, no matter how we try and use it, they are always winners, unless we remove ourselves from it and start from scratch.
The word is “BOYCOT” and of course get as many people as possible on board.
January 18th, 2009 at 10:57 am
“A mandatory two year draft for all able bodied men after high school will make a smarter and stronger nation in all ways.”
Find a video of bootcamp, look at the eyes, and tell me they’re thinking.
January 18th, 2009 at 11:44 am
I don’t suppose politicians or their children will be subject to the draft? (Whoops!), “how dare a pawn speak so”! Not to reason why, but do or die?
The 911 truth movement is voluntary, and the infowar is the only war i’m going to fight, until they declare illegal treasonous martial law.
January 18th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Perhaps this is how they want to engineer the civil war.
This likely wouldnt even fly before the awareness of the fake terror.
Now, they have to know it wont. Not when we know full well who and what they are. (or are not, rather)
There are hundreds of thousands that will say to hell with that.
Goodam Reply:
January 18th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
They don’t have to carry out the terror attack in the USA, they can carry it out anywhere in the world and mobilise the entire US Army to that conflict, they can for example carry it out here in the UK, and then the UK will declare war on Iran or who ever.
Then the USA will mobilise it’s Army to help the great Ally of Great Britain, but only our children will get killed and the poor Innocent Iranians, women children, etc…
there are hundreds of ways they can start this.
they can even start it between Pakistan and India, and they will help India, as India is one of their Allies
That’s all they do all day long everyday, is finding ways to deceive populations without raising any awarness.
without making it too obvious, if they are threatened, they can detonate bombs all over the place to scare people of and to show their supremecy.
But only if we allow it
January 18th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Indeed, that is exactly what they are trying to achieve.
January 19th, 2009 at 4:43 am
This force draft has a bright side , no jobs , no place to live , no food , say no when they draft you and you get to go to jail , free room & broad , and you don’t have to worry about get shot or bombed !!!
January 27th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
I’m cool with the draft, so long as:
1. It includes women. Equal Rights = Equal Responsibility
2. Any deferments are posted publicly in a conspicuous location with full information.
January 27th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) cannot seem to abide to his Oath of Office, which includes Amendment XIII of The Constitution of the United States, which states, “Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as punishment for crime whereof the party sall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”
It is time for the people to seek redress from their elected, so-called representatives by the means of having each and every representative forced to vacate their seat if they violate their oath of office and the covenant they have made to the people to uphold the U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights and every attached Amendment.
February 21st, 2009 at 6:41 pm
A universal military draft is nothing but screwed up! What happened to universal freedom? I believe it should be a choice, not a force! Bigwigs, get over yourselves, and get down to real life! Focus on cleaning up this country, not on taking away even more freedoms!
February 21st, 2009 at 6:43 pm
One more thing….how is a draft going to help this country and the men and women already fighting for our freedoms? We already can’t take well enough care of them! Do you know how many “kids” are getting killed? Do you know how long the waiting lists are for military housing? Ridiculous! Take care of what you have first!!!!