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Renditioning To Continue Under Obama
Anthony Gregory
Campaign For Liberty
Tuesday, August 25, 2009
Flashback: Obama Orders Continuation Of Illegal CIA Renditions
About two years ago, candidate Obama, writing in Foreign Affairs, strongly criticized Bush’s practice of “extraordinary renditioning.” Under this policy, terror suspects were apprehended, transferred, sometimes through secret prisons and black cites, and handed over to foreign regimes like Egypt and Morocco. Sometimes this involved torture. Maher Arar, for example, was a Canadian citizen later determined to be innocent, captured in New York and sent to Syria where he was tortured in brutal ways. See this piece in the New Yorker chroniciling other such horror stories.
Obama’s criticism of renditioning, along with his general criticism of the Bush administration’s violations of habeas corpus, was one of his most serious indictments of the war on terrorism as managed by the Republicans.
Now the New York Times reports that “[t]he Obama administration will continue the Bush administration’s practice of sending terror suspects to third countries for detention and interrogation, but will monitor their treatment to insure they are not tortured.”
How will they monitor such treatment? The administration “would give the State Department a larger role in assuring that transferred detainees would not be abused.” This is the State Department headed by Hillary Clinton — the same politician whom Ann Coulter had said she’d vote for over John McCain because Clinton was more pro-torture!
The Times goes on to report:
“It is extremely disappointing that the Obama administration is continuing the Bush administration practice of relying on diplomatic assurances, which have been proven completely ineffective in preventing torture,” said Amrit Singh of the American Civil Liberties Union, who tracked rendition cases under President George W. Bush.
She cited the case of Maher Arar, a Syrian-born Canadian sent in 2002 by the United States to Syria, which offered assurances against torture but beat Mr. Arar with electrical cable anyway.a new administrative interrogation unit, to be housed within the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which will oversee the interrogations of top terror suspects using largely non-coercive techniques approved by the administration earlier this year.
Furthermore, the administration is creating “a new administrative interrogation unit, to be housed within the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which will oversee the interrogations of top terror suspects using largely non-coercive techniques approved by the administration earlier this year.”
But can we trust these interrogations will be non-coercive? Can we trust they will be pinpointed against truly dangerous people? To see why not, let us consider the first suspect renditioned under Obama: Raymond Azar.
Azar is a Lebanese construction manager employed by Sima International, a contracting firm that works with the U.S. government in Iraq and Afghanistan. Azar has never been accused of terrorism, but of fraud in violation of antitrust law! Allegedly, he had been aware of a crooked bribe taking place. For this, he claims he was subjected to horrible treatment. His lawyers have filed papers saying Azar was hooded, stripped naked and photographed, subjected to a body-cavity search, shown a photo of his wife and four children and told he’d never see them again if he didn’t confess, then driven to Bagram where he was shackled to a chair four seven hours, taken in an unheated metal shipping container during a cold storm with nothing but a thin blanket, and deprived of sleep. After all this, he broke down into a confession, which his lawyer now claims was illegitimate since it was tortured out of him.
Does this count as “non-coercive” interrogation? It does not seem much more humane than waterboarding and beatings, to me. And, furthermore, what kind of precedent is it to abuse and rendition a prisoner accused of nothing but being aware of fraud involved with a contracting deal with the military? If being dishonest in a government contract is a torturable offense — if people can be renditioned and deprived of light and sleep and subjected to threats against their family to force them to confess merely to knowing about an antitrust violation — then we have certainly gone down a horrific path concerning decency and the rule of law in the war on terrorism and foreign policy, and Obama appears not to be tempering that trend at all, but only accelerating it. Further, this shows the supreme threat that permanent war is to the very fabric of liberty. First they went after the “worst of the worst.” Now they’re using these brutal methods on alleged white-collar criminals. This is why the entire legal fabric of U.S. national security policy must be reformed in accordance with the Constitution, human decency, international law and habeas corpus.
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August 25th, 2009 at 10:16 am
WE GOT RID OF ONE PIG AND WHAT,
WE GOT ANOTHER ONE INSTEAD
STARMAN Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 10:46 am
HEY OBAMA :
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO PISS OFF THE FAR LEFT JUST KEEP THE EXTRAORDINARY RENDITION GOING AND WATCH YOUR BASE DROP YOU LIKE
A ROCK. EVERYONE FROM NPR TO MOTHER JONES WILL GO AFTER YOU FOR THAT
AND THEN TRY TO GET HEALTH REFORM PASSED …… NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
Dogfood Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
###### BIRCH SOCIETY EXPOSES NWO AGENDA 50 YEARS AGO #######
###### BIRCH SOCIETY EXPOSES NWO AGENDA 50 YEARS AGO #######
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZU0c8DAIU4
###### BIRCH SOCIETY EXPOSES NWO AGENDA 50 YEARS AGO #######
###### BIRCH SOCIETY EXPOSES NWO AGENDA 50 YEARS AGO #######
chickenface Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:13 am
OBAMA ZOMBIES and puppets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page obama the puppet
chickenface Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:12 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page
August 25th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Rest assured, those same torture techniques will be used on you next! Just like Hitler did it, so will the Nazi State of Amerika
STARMAN Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 11:04 am
WELL EXTRAORDINARY RENDITION WAS A PROGRAM THAT GOT AROUND GENEVA CONVENTION HERE IS HOW IT WORKED
CIA/BLACKWATER.. AGENTS WOULD KIDNAP AN IRAQ SOLDIER OR CITIZEN THEN FLY THEM AT NIGHT TO ANOTHER COUNTRY ONCE ON A DIFFERENT SOIL THEY CALLED THEM
( ENEMY COMBATANTS NOT SUBJECT TO THE GENEVA CONVENTION ) THEN DETAINED THEM IN THE NEW COUNTRY AND HELD AND TORTURED THEM.
I WAS NOT GOING TO SHOW THIS VIDEO ITS HARD TO WATCH BUT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW.
http://video.google.com/videop.....6973832540
Chevy Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
That was a sick video Starchart reminds me of some stuff we did in Nam in late
74. The only thing was the reporters never got around to the investigation part
cause we had orders to show them the area we were not in. The reporters just went on
T.V. and said we were getting the upper hand. The whole thing was a lie the reporters
never looked in the fields where we buried the people.
A Patriot Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Agreed!
However horrible we must know the truth!
August 25th, 2009 at 11:08 am
The more I see Obama speeches, his “ernest promises,” his “straight talking,” his “man of the people cliches,” his “political frankness,” I’m always drawn back to memories of UK PM Tony Blair…Or Tony Bliar, as many of us refer to him. Tony and his dodgy dossier on WMD in Iraq, etc.
The Illuminati picked Obama because they wanted to pretend that change would be happening and nobody would have believed a white man such as John McCain. They also wanted a man of the people (well some people, the Obamarama weeny-boppers and groupies, as I call them.)
Such a man, it was hoped, could lead the people like the pied piper of Hamlin, into the arms (or arm) of mass poisoning-vaccination…..Just as Blair betrayed the British working classes, believe me, Obama WILL BETRAY HIS FOLLOWERS.
ectoendomezo Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Yeah..Obama is a LIAR..absolutely..and is probably the president to lose his ‘mandate’ in the shortest period of time…ever…
HOWEVER..that being said..
Sarah Palin..simply was NOT up to the task..that is a fact..she was a BOOK BANNER/BURNER…basically an idiot…and..it is one area of genuine agreement betwixt Repugs And Demorats..that she is..basically a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR..so..we would..definitley..be in a worse scenario than we are with Obama..
Why? If you care..well..becasue Obama is..sort of..continueing with the ONE area that Demos have that Repugs..in their present Incarnation have abandoned SO completely that they simply will NOT ‘WIN” no matter what happens with obama..it will just be another Dem..BECAUSE..they CANNOT ACCEPT CULTURAL VARIATION! PERIOD!
IF YOU PRIDE YOURSELF..AND CRY AND CRY..THAT YOU, AS A REPUBLICAN..ARE FOR ‘REDUCING THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT’ AND MOST HYPOCRITICAL OF ALL..”LESS INTRUSIVE GOVERNMENT” AND THEN YOU STRUT RIGHT OFF TO FORCE…FORCE MIND YOU!…OTHERS..THROUGH ‘LEGISLATION’ TO ALLOW YOU TO TELL THEM..WHOM THEY MAY..OR MAY NOT…MARRY…WELL..IT DOESN’T GET…ANY…MORE…”INTRUSIVE” THAN THAT…AGAIN…PERIOD!
So..until the Republicans can ACTUALLY…”CULTURALLY”…PSYCHELOGICALLY….ACCEPT a GENUINE ‘Less Intrusive Government’…they will continue to be the party of HATE..and the PARTY of “let US decide YOUR Values FOR you…Because OUR values are the ONLY acceptable ones…praise christ..” etc..and frankly..THAT DOG DON’T HUNT! You dig?
So..the Dems have Acceptance of Diversity..to a GREATER EXTENT…than do the Repugs..AND..even though most cannot verbalize…this actually pretty subtle but simple mobius strip…but UNDERSTAND it on a basic level…the reality that WE MUST “accept” Diversity…but we do NOT have to accept LACK OF ACCEPTANCE…Specifically in terms of..”THE LAW”..see the point? The repugs cry and whine..ON AND ON..that they are the SAME THING..”well the libruls don’t accpet christians and..blah..blah..” But see..THAT is because ONE..the “Right” would FORCE..ONE..SET..OF..BELIEFS..and that is the ONE “Freedom” you DON’T have…but you CAN “legislate” ACCEPTANCE OF DIVERSITY…that is DEMOCRACY…CHOICE..if you WANT to hate Libruls and all that..FINE..but you don’t get to USE that to LEGISLATE your VALUES onto others…
So..the Repugs..will NO LONGER “WIN”…the X-Ers and Boomers..by the obviously VAST majority…WILL NOT…and CANNOT..muster any real “DISTRUST” of gays..Blacks..Immigrants..etc..it just is a time gone by…its OVER..but the repugs continue in this stupifyingly arrogant and piggish manner…and that too..just makes them seem…STUPID..and…LOST…
So..A PARTY THAT CAN WIN/WIN///SHOULD BE BASICALLY THIS SIMPLE…
I CALL IT..THE “CONSTITUTIONAL PROGRESSIVE” PARTY!
“FIRST AND FOREMOST..THE CONSTITUTION AND ACCEPTANCE OF CULTURAL VARIATION!” THAT IS THE ONLY WAY..ARROGANT AS THAT SOUNDS..FOR OUR RIGHTS..AND OUR CULTURE…TO PROCEDE..ALL OF OUR RIGHTS..GUNS…SPEECH..PRIVACY…AND…AND…IF YOU WANNA MARRY ANOTHER DUDE..OR WHATEVER..WHO CARES…
ITS THE ONLY WAY…BECAUSE IT IS ACTUALLY..A VARIETY OF WAYS..WITH THE CONSTITUTION UNDERLYING IT ALL…GARSH..SOUNDS SORT OF…FAMILIAR…
August 25th, 2009 at 11:59 am
You are preaching to the quire here, go out to other sites and make a different, support other patriots on their comments, point out the troubles others are still blind to, destroy the left/right scam, wake people up. When they see there are alot more patriots than they thought, they will come around.
August 25th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Ron Paul 2009!!
http://www.warnthepeople.org
August 25th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Change?
August 25th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Paul-Perot!
August 25th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
I wonder if this was part of OBAMAS PLAN:
CIA GOT BUSTED!
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1264.htm
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1266.htm
HERE IS YOUR REAL AL-CIA-DUH
August 26th, 2009 at 3:28 am
“a change you can believe in” my a*se http://www.openyoureyesnews.com/?tag=obama
August 26th, 2009 at 6:52 am
Let’s ‘extraordinary rendition ’some of these lying politicians,add a little bit of water boarding and put it on the tv ,pay per view,i would pay to see clintons beg for mercy,and bush blubber “the con-stitution is not just a piece of paper”i say bring back the hot poker and the stocks,but only if they are over flowing with our puppet politicians,oh ok,maybe a few elites as well ,just for balance.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Torture illegal!!! How dare you George Bush!!! Paying someone else to torture for you. Oh, no that’s cool.
It’s good to know if I pay someone to beat the crap out of people I have a problem with I can’t be charged with a crime.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:58 am
So now the U.S. government thinks it makes sense, and is worth the outcry of our allies, to use rendition to nab a contractor while it still does business with companies like Kamal Mustafa al-Sultan Co. I have read in the San Antonio Express-News about how that company was found guilty and paid a huge fine for stealing fuel from the U.S. military during war time, yet they continue to get good government contracts. This makes no sense to me.