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Ron Paul: Bailout Will Destroy Dollar, World Economy
Congressman slams Federal Reserve power monopoly on House floor as vote nears
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Monday, September 29, 2008
As a vote nears on the $700 billion dollar plus bailout bill, Congressman Ron Paul took to the House floor this morning to warn that the passage of the legislation will destroy the dollar and the world economy.
Stating that the passage of the bailout bill would only make the problem worse, the Congressman from Texas said, “This has nothing to do with free market capitalism, this has to do with a managed economy, an inflationary system, corporatism, a special interest system, and this has nothing to do with the failure of our free markets and capitalism.”
Paul blamed the current crisis on a Federal Reserve power monopoly over the money and credit system, the ceaseless borrowing and printing of money, and dismissed the bill as nothing but more of the same.
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“Long term this is disastrous,” continued the Congressman, “we’ve already pumped in $700 billion dollars, here’s another $700 billion dollars - this is going to destroy the dollar - that’s what you should be concerned about - if you destroy the dollar you’re going to destroy a worldwide economy and that’s what we’re on the verge of doing.”
Paul said that the long term implications of the bailout would be a lot more serious than the problems currently being experienced by Wall Street.
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The Congressman called for more oversight and warned, “What we’re doing today is going to make things much worse.”
Paul expressed his frustration that free market economists who predicted the crisis were being ignored while the people who created the problem were being given the responsibility to offer a solution.
The Congressman was not afforded the time to read his full prepared remarks, but they were entered into the Congressional record and can be read at Paul’s Campaign For Liberty website.
Paul’s comments follow those of Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur, who slammed the bailout bill this past weekend as the work of criminal insiders who have shut down the normal legislative process to commit “high financial crimes” and defraud the American people, while Rep. Michael Burgess warned that “martial law” had been declared by Nancy Pelosi in order to ram the bill through.
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September 29th, 2008 at 10:14 am
We can’t blame Ron Paul for trying. He is a Saint right now. We need more folks with such backbones, or ‘cahones’ to stand up right now and be heard, by the world!!
September 29th, 2008 at 10:16 am
the dollar has been destryed long ago…when the fed was made..
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the american people have been duped into beleave they are a free society…
the american people dont reaize they are trapped, in the United states of America INC..
owned by Briten..yes we never won the revolitionary war. our constition is a joke…
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learn live and be free..
September 29th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Go Dr. Paul! One of the few politicians telling the TRUTH!
September 29th, 2008 at 10:22 am
was funny, Cavuto on FoxNews told Dr. Paul he was a genius and admitted he warned of much of this long ago. Remember how they shunned Congressman Paul during primaries lol. Too bad the media told us to pick someone else for president.
September 29th, 2008 at 10:57 am
It has been done exactly as planed by the Penguin (aka Cheney).
I always through Cavuto was a closet fan of Ron Paul.
September 29th, 2008 at 11:02 am
May Ron Paul’s ‘uncommon sense’ prevail! I just saw the house vote no, they have left the voting open to give themselves time to strongarm reps to change their nays. Interesting that the nay vote is surprisingly ‘bipartisan’. In any case, good luck to all you folks and God bless.
(I hope we are all adequately prepared for hard times, we will have them regardless of the outcome)
September 29th, 2008 at 11:03 am
this bill is not passing folks. oh the drama!..yea-207 nea-226. time ran out 15 minutes ago yet they are still twisting arms to pass this..the coming days will be interesting.
September 29th, 2008 at 11:06 am
If Paul would denounce the republican party and announce that he is running for prez as an independent, it would really, really, really fuck things up for McBama/O’Cain. He’d stand a good chance, too.
September 29th, 2008 at 11:06 am
welcome to the jungle folks
September 29th, 2008 at 11:08 am
WHAT, ME, WORRY???
We don’ need no stinkin’ DOLLARS….
(Jes’ slap me upside the head instead– ooh it feels sooooo good!)
September 29th, 2008 at 11:10 am
it is time for a revolution!!!hopefully it will be a bloodless revolution, but if push comes to shove, then a truly bloody revolution may be the only way to remedy this situation and free us as slaves!!!LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!!
September 29th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Do you want to do your civic duty and vote? When your in the voting booth use the write in option and write in, “REVOLUTION!!!!”
September 29th, 2008 at 11:18 am
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September 29th, 2008 at 11:24 am
It appears the House has voted DOWN this bill and America has prevailed through active patriots making their voice heard loud and clear. The failing bank issues will continue and many banks in failing positions have been posted at: http://victory1project.wordpress.com/ showing Florida, Texas, Illinois and other banks currently in a failing position. Take heed and move your assets out of these failing banks before you loose.
Detective Krum
September 29th, 2008 at 11:30 am
Don’t worry, be happy.
September 29th, 2008 at 11:33 am
From the book, I believe, called “The Last Great Victory,” a communist speaking about the U.S.S.R., “We are a socialist country with a planned economy.” 1920’s Soviet Union or 2008 USA, is there any difference?
September 29th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Now is the time to take our money out of the banks. End usury now!!!!!!!
September 29th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Lets move on with Ron Paul, He’s saving the USA from the Fed who want it all.
Don’t start the revolution without me.
September 29th, 2008 at 11:50 am
Now, we will see the true cost of the “smirking chimp’s” wars. Maybe as a sequel, we can elect the republican warmonger McCain or the “CFR Uncle Tom,” Obama. The leadership has and will continue to betray the Republic.
September 29th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
The NO VOTE is WINNING OUT right NOW
YES PEOPLE… The Bail Out will NOT pass!!!
September 29th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
There needs to be a list of congress criters that voted for bailout. Those will be on NEVER to be Elected in future list.!!!!! Wall Street beware… we will not cover your LOSSES
September 29th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
More baseless fearmongering. Yawn.
By the way, have a look at Ron Paul on video and in articles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbXQ_PnUbq8
http://representativepress.goo.....nPaul.html
http://www.911researchers.com/node/904
September 29th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
The BUSH Administration having Omitted even Basic Aid to Homeowners, Bankruptcy reforms for massive amounts of americans piled under Credit Card Debt and any Modicum of Future financial industry regulation. So Kucinich was right, this fleecing of the Taxpayer to cover Big Fat Cat Banking Loan Shark Mentality…Let Them Fail!
September 29th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Constituents Think?
“People are mad. People are upset,” said Schaffer’s Democratic rival Rep. Mark Udall. “My calls are mixed between people who say NO and people who say HELL, NO.” Wow, politician with some honesty when asked how 99% of Americans feel about this screw ball Bail Out.
NO BAIL OUT… How Loud can You say it
September 29th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
How does Congress feel about Golden Parachutes …
“I’m NOT ready to say a Deal is Done,” Rep. Cantor said in an interview on Cable News Network Sunday….Oh and may we ADD, alot of others in Congress share your desire NOT to be caught supporting a Bill, set to screw the Taxpayer, which is the one you work for and not the Lobbyists…
September 29th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
McCain stand firm and Vote NO BAIL OUT!
The Bail Out plan 2008 has been described as a “DEAD LOSER on Election Day” and the overwhelming majority urge Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain of Arizona to SPEAK OUT against the plan. At some point McCain has to show where his allegiances lay…With the lobbyists or the American People…
September 29th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
After ENRON why arent Execs at FREDDIE and FANNIE investgated….
Let’s see the charges pressed against all those responsible for the FRAUD at Fannie Mae/FREDDIE MAC…. And let’s see charges brought against those who fought against the reforms when Alan Greenspan and others sounded the alarm about this… It’s the biggest SCAM on the American people in the Nation’s History… Jail is too good for these people. We heard for years about ENRON. Why aren’t we getting daily investigative reporting on the machine behind this disaster: Fannie and Freddie and their political protector?
September 29th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Just an idea…
As much of this backroom politics happens removed from the public eye, we need a way to rope in these people(government officials) who act without feeling on their behalf. I would like to create a website that anyone can contribute to.-What shall we put on it you ask? How about the real addresses of every Congressman,Senator,and government official who warrants such action. As they go back to thier holes after they vote, and are removed from the public how can they represent us. If their location was known they would act very different, as we could hold them accountable for their treason. I realize this would be a bold move that will certainly get their attention, but wouldn’t it be worth it. I think their time for hiding is up. Thoughts?
September 29th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
cometh the hour… ron paul..cometh the hour…he needs to call on the people to awake from there slumber…we march tonight!!!!
September 29th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Gingrich responds to King Paulson’s Demands…
“You have the Former CHAIRMAN of Goldman Sachs asking for 700 BILLION dollars, and in his “Initial Request,” asking for it in such an un-American way that I think he should have RESIGNED,” said Gingrich. “I think Paulson has terminally MISUNDERSTOOD the nature of the American system. Not just no Review, no Judicial review, No Congressional accountability. Give me 700 BILLION dollars, 700 BILLION dollars!!!! ‘I’ll be glad to spend it for you.’ That’s a centralization of power that is totally un-American.”
Un-American or Un-Constitutional?
September 29th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Dean Baker of the Center on Economic and Policy Research says…
that spending so much Cash so quickly on such a Poorly Conceived Plan could have the effect of making it impossible to fund Economic Stimulus that is the real way out of this mess. “Suppose the Paulson plan goes through,” he writes. “It is Virtually Certain that the economy will Weaken further and the number of FORECLOSURES and people without Jobs will continue to rise. This is the FALLOUT from a collapsing housing bubble…When families respond to their loss of home equity by cutting back their consumption it will deepen the Recession.
September 29th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Come on guys… Please? Paulson pleads…
This is a matter of great urgency. We need a Blank Check. We need the funds as quickly as possible. We cannot directly transfer these funds in the names of our close friends because we are constantly under surveillance. My family lawyer advised me that I should look for a reliable and trustworthy person who will act as a next of kin so the funds can be transferred. Please reply with all of your bank account, IRA and College Fund account numbers and those of your children and grandchildren to wallstreetbailout@treasury.gov so that we may transfer your commission for this transaction…. After I receive that information, I will respond with detailed information about safeguards that will be used to protect the funds…. Yours Faithfully Minister of Treasury Paulson
September 29th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
I forgot to mention how to Bail Out of the FED
This means that for every Ounce of SILVER in the U.S. Treasury’s vault, the government could introduce New Money into circulation based on the silver bullion physically held there. Its an American concept whose time has come…no more Foreign Banks printing our US Money at interest and then charging us to loan money to pay interest on the Money “Private” Banks created… and continue to keep the presses Hot! Keep printing boys the economy hasnt crashed YET!
September 29th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Letter to Senator Barbara Boxer on the Bail Out
ABSOLUTELY NO TAXPAYER BAIL OUT!!… I didn’t work hard, avoid Debt and live in austerity in order to be fleeced to pay for the Foolish activity of Brain Dead Bankers. Please do not make the United States into a further Mockery of Justice. As my Representative I urge you with educated sincerity to VOTE NO ON THE BAIL OUT FRAUD. When are the so-called “Experts” who, until recently, claimed the economy was “fundamentally sound” and now claim that everything is doomed unless they get their hands on our Loot, when are these people going to be discredited in the eyes of you Washington folks? When are they going to Lose their Jobs? I mean, is it not important for our executive officials to be honest and forthright AS WELL AS actually having a CLUE as to what they are doing? If I didn’t hope to the contrary, I would say this whole Fear Mongering Circus surrounding this issue is akin to EXTORTION of prudent tax payers in order to bail out cronies. Am I wrong? Will the officials who said there was no problem through all these years and now WANT MY MONEY, be held to Account? A massive Bail Out isn’t my idea of accountability. If you vote yes on the bail out, I will be very, very upset, disappointed and motivated to Act to change our status quo. Please do the Right thing and you will be winning friends along with upholding some semblance of a righteous posture. Sincerely,
September 29th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
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September 29th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
On the 15th, Lehman announced its Bankruptcy.
On the 17th, the AIG bust/bail out was announced.
On the 25th, WaMu is done, put a Fork In It. I expected these entities to really struggle, but I definitely did not expect that they would all be pretty much belly up within two weeks of my post! Wowzers. Meanwhile, the people are GETTING PISSED over this Joke of a bail out proposal. Some DEMONSTRATORS plan to DUMP their Rubbish in front of the bronze Bull sculpture near Wall Street in downtown Manhattan. Wow, NO VOTE for 700 BILLION!
September 29th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Call your Congressman @ (202) 224-2131 and tell them, in no uncertain terms, that if they vote for this $700 BILLION TREASON they will be history. We can be certain like the IRISH and its NO Vote for EU stripping of peoples rights. We can know that the battle is not over but today the NO VOTE WINS!!!
September 29th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
ITs a repub bill you f’@#$% tart. Like a Bank Robber threatening to shoot himself if you don’t give him the Money. Hey Pelosi, please come buy my house. If you don’t pay my price, I’m gonna walk away. Pelosi-”We can’t have that, I’ll meet your price and raise you a corporate Tax break”. Now Pelosi how can you make the Lobbyists Happy when 99% are against this straight up Robbery
September 29th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Add a repeal of the bankruptcy bill to the BAIL OUT 2008
This would be a good time for Sen. Obama to push for repealing the bankruptcy bill. It was obscene before the bailout, words can’t describe it now. Remember when the banks said that America needed to pay the banks back at credit card interest rates of plus 29%? Now is the time for Obama to repeal this enslavement to Credit Card companies I.E. Banks seeking outrageous greed profit
September 29th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Is there a way to find out who voted for this bill so I make sure I never vote them back into office. I was one of those people not paying attention but have been reformed to pay close attention the last 8 months. I am still learning. Any help appreciated; to know who voted yes! for this bailout so I can vote them out.
September 29th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
No Homeowner relief, No BAIL OUT
That’s $2,333 from every man, woman, and child in the United States (for the bailout). In exchange for that money, Paulson is unwilling to accept any demands to make markets more transparent, or assist Homeowners fighting Foreclosure. Since Communism requires No Accountability for those in Power…We can safely Assume Paulson is Most definately a Commie even if he refuses to admit it to Congress. Once again let us not forget he never saw this “Meltdown” coming
September 29th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
What Bail Out… Look Over There…
All right, here’s the plan… It’s all about the art of DECEPTION… While I get as much heat on me as possible, y’all get away with the green…
September 29th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
How strange. Bush and his NeoCon supporters denounce government intrusion into any facets of our lives or the business world, unless of course, his “Banker Friends” in big business need a financial bail out. Then government intervention is more than Welcomed!.. Let the Free Billions roll into the coffers of the Super Rich!!!
Lets understand that this is about Paying China off…. screw China, we need America First NO BAIL OUT for Foreign Banks who stand to lose if the Housing Bubble Bursts due to thier folding bad debt into bad debt. VOODOO ECONOMICS!
September 29th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Call all your Congressmen/women and plead with them to continue to defeat it. Let them know that if they do stand their ground, that “insider trading” as Alex Jones reported will crash the stocks to force them to vote. Tell them to stand firm, stand firm. If they know what will come, it won’t shock them. We have to weather this storm now, than delay it for a worse death blow to come. Americans are use to escaping suffering. Let us suffer now to preserve ourselves. Our running from hard times will be our undoing.
September 29th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
He’s right, right right right so right, the dollar is gonna be like the peso in due time if we keep on this track. And to the unknown nameless fool who posted this….
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Says:
September 29th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
More baseless fearmongering. Yawn.
By the way, have a look at Ron Paul on video and in articles:”
yer an idiot
September 29th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Vote NO BAIL OUT 2008
This just shows that the goverment of the United States is of, by and for the Corporations. Instead of bailing out the Criminals who started this whole mess why doesn’t the Goverment bail out the Victims (Homeowners); those who are losing their Homes and Jobs? The economy is tanking and the best we can do is Bail Out the Bankers and their buddies. ESSENTIAL TO HIDE THE FIASCO BEFORE THE ELECTION.
September 29th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
No help for the Homeowner?
It is to all intents and purposes a National Suicide note of the United States of America, a Contract with the Devil that absolutely guarantees irrevocable National Decline. For any person of goodwill there can be only one impulse at the present moment, and that is to Stop This Bailout — to BLOCK IT, to Sabotage it, to Bottle it up, to Load it with Killer amendments
September 29th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Bail Out…
News announcer: Congress heard testimony today from Children who testified they were ‘exploited’ by Sweatshops Overseas…BUSH:Damn who is going to FUND our Bankrupt country if everyone learns about CHINA?
September 29th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Come on guys its only 700 BILLION to start the party
For those new to the US Financial Meltdown taking place, Ron Paul explains how the extreme government intervention proposed by neo-fascists Paulson and the rest of the Bush Administration would in fact hurt the people… Any time you plunder the living day lights out of Responsible Individuals in order to back stop the mistakes of the corrupt, greedy gambling style investors you are setting EVERYONE up for failure.
September 29th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
The most high profile before Paulson’s was the PAYOFF Halliburton gave to Dick Cheney in the form of a truckload of “Deferred compensation” valued in the Tens of MILLIONS. At the time, those who raised questions about what such a payoff would buy were dismissed by the Washington Establishment as Conspiracy Theorists… The insiders who populate this Establishment, of course, are addicted to the revolving door, and they didn’t want anyone questioning it. Now, just a few years later, we found out that, indeed, Halliburton’s generosity to Cheney was a payoff, as the Vice President used his office to help the OIL Company secure huge Government Contracts in the aftermath of the Iraq War. So whats a couple TRILLION among Friends? This Bail Out is a drop in the bucket for how much they would like to plunder what is left
September 29th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
“The incoming Treasury secretary, Henry M. Paulson Jr., was awarded an $18.7 MILLION Cash BONUS for half a year of work as the Chief Executive of the Goldman Sachs Group.”… The massive bonus was, not surprisingly, approved by Goldman Sachs at the very ‘Same Time’ Paulson was both CEO and Treasury Secretary designate. This raises a very simple question: What is Goldman Sachs buying with this brazen PAYOFF to someone they knew was headed to one of the most powerful government posts in America? -Of course he is not willing to give any of his bribe money back. Not yet anyway.
September 29th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Ron Paul is the SHIT Bitches!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck all them White Collar punk ass bitches!!!!!!!
Live Free or Die like the bitches you are SHEEPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 29th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml
Roll call for bailout votes
September 29th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
It is the sickest possible joke that this bailout is even entertained as a serious option.
We have a banking system that loots the wealth of the nation. It is doomed to inevitable failure due to the system’s continual need for increased lending. The system is specifically designed to rip off the unsuspecting middle class and when the system fails as a result of its inherent nature, the unsuspecting victims of the rip-off scheme get to pay the way of those that have been the beneficiaries of the scam.
We need an alternative to this madness:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73×8uOXQjag
September 29th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Yes, you can see who voted and how they voted here: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml
September 29th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Both parties tesmed up to keep Ron Paul off the air and away from public attention. Now this country is paying for not listening to Dr Paul. We have TWO candidates now who are both the same, both approve the BAILOUT of the Ultra Rich on wallstreet, both approve attacking Iran, and causing even more trouble in the Middle East. Neither of them have a sound plan for Healthcare or our economy. Still think theres TWO parties? Dont kid yourself.
Dr Paul had the answer, but it fell on deaf ears thanks in part to MEDIA SILENCE.
One thing i do agree with Obama on is, WE MUST MAKE POLITICIANS OWN THEIR FAILURES.
September 29th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
I think you are confusing the word communism with dicatorship Hellfire. And your country is full little dicators, the super-rich. Above the law, untouchable, unmerciful, unyeilding. What they want, they get, because money gets them power. With that power they expect the people they payed for (and who you elected cause they ran such a great campaign) to return the favor. Or unpaid for I guess, corporate media sure doesn’t give wise people a lot of aire time. What kind of favors? You know, the money kind. The kind that allowed your jobs to be sent overseas so you could buy junk made in china that always breaks and toys contaminated with lead. The kind that allows pharmaceuticals to put out dangerous drugs on the market because they are afraid to loose on their inverstment. Now that they have all that power, the next logical step is to quietly secure it. So lets rip up that there constitution , start patrolling the streets with apcs and listneing to your phone conversations.
Your govermnent officials are 1)on the team 2)careerist slaves 3)ignored. See it’s great, they don’t even have to assissinate people like JFK anymore, because anyone liable of ruinning the pool party isn’t even let in the front door anymore.
You’d better keep those phones ringing or else most of north america is going to get so poor, they’ll have no choice but to accept jobs in the military to eat. Lol, think of all the fat soliders.
Sorry Senator Paul I cannot agree with you. Capitalism means the buck, the buck at all costs. We have sacraficed peace, advances in medicine and energy technology so corporate shareholders could keep lining their pockets. This beast, this insatiable greed, the essence of capitalism sent millions of good jobs overseas and started a very long war in iraq. Who approved of this? Your corrupted officials. These people are running your beloved country into the ground, so my heart goes out to yall as you make this stand against the bailout. Cheers.
September 29th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Fed Pumps Further $630 Billion Into Financial System
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/.....refer=home
The FED still went ahead and did it anyway! 630 billion dollars???????
September 29th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
“Given that the House GOP didn’t deliver the 80 (or whatever) votes that Democrats were making substantive concessions in order to achieve, now I really don’t see why the Democratic leadership doesn’t tear this thing up and start writing a progressive bill. Not only might that produce a good outcome in the end, but it also seems to me like the thing that would be most likely to convince recalcitrant House Republicans to get with the program in order to preempt something more left-wing.”
Or why even have a Bail Out for the Rich. Since when did Bush care about whether you Buy a new Car or NOT. He doesnt care and this Bail Out is to cover Wall Street Looting and Greed. Pure Greed People… in its evil ugly Form. Money is not the Root of Evil, Greed is the Root of Evil…
September 29th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
what we are seeing are the predicted times,as we near dec 21 2012,as mother earth shifts to the 4th dimension.20% of the people has 8o% of the money.80%of the world is at starvation levels..the dark cabul is losing its grip.this is a global perfect storm.ecological-economical,food and water shortages.and tectonic plates shifting.with an axis shift.hang on for the ride,surround yourselves with like minded for mundane survival mode..then the star elders will present themselves and teach a new way of life on earth.and teach us about our divinity thru meditation.
and the technique to rise above body conciousness.search david wilcock who used to be edgar cayce..and sat guru kirpal singh the greatest mystic saint of the 20th century,go to ruhanisatsangusa–also ajaib singh his sucsessor mystic adepts of surat shabd yoga-the ancient yoga of inner light and sound current……coming from the eternal realm……peacefulness to you all—joe
September 29th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Stand Up for bein’ the Last One to control…
(But) what you can’t see is bein’ the Last One to know
September 29th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Dr Ron Paul had the solution: Get rid of the Federal Reserve and the IRS. The media threw him under the train. With the “Other two” candidates supporting the Bailout, neither are the solution, they are the problem. Obama is a commie, and McCain is a neo con. Palin is not experienced, and Biden WILL disarm you. Well they are fired!
Go to wwwFireCongress.com download the Pink Slip, print it and send it to all your congress critters. Then put one in the ballot box. They elevated themselves above us and got on the chair, their greed and risky investments put the noose around their necks, now we the people can kick the chair out from under them. Unless you bust these crooks, they will continue destroying US. Get off the couch, put down the beer and get out and let’s do a 100,000,000 man march and put them in jail. People of all color need to come together and do this. United we will stand, divided we will fall down starving. There will be martial law, and one by one you will end up in one of Cheney’s detention camps being forced to eat U.N. crackers, and being separated like the Jews. Hitler would be proud. Cause, Reaction, Solution. They use the media to drive us like cattle.
If you buy me a hamburger today I will gladly pay you Tuesday. It’s for the children. WMD’s found in Iraq. Be patient, just a little longer. Bull. Govt is not the solution, they are the problem. R Reagan The culprit is the U.N.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Isn’t destruction of the world Economy one of the goals for the Illuminati ? To bring on global enslavement Economic collapse is mandatory..please correct me if I’m wrong.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Another home run for the home run king.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Repeal the fraudulent “Federal Re$erve Act”, close down the deceiving banking cartel, try them under the RICO Act, Jail them, take away all of their material possessions, take the government back by We the People. Impeach Bu$h/Cheney and the criminal crew behind 9-11 and this fraudulent heist of america. AMERICA, THIS IS YOUR WAKE UP CALL, LET THE FEDERAL RESERVE privately owned banksters die the death it deserves. It is time to break the chains of $lavery and now is the time to take action. Watch this important documentary: ZEITGEIST http://video.google.co.uk/vide.....amp;emb=0#
The power of LOVE is greater than the love of power!
September 29th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
why isn’t anyone supporting Nader for President?
Dr. Paul is held back , republican politics; but we are not…..
September 29th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dmPchuXIXQ look banksters
September 29th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml
As far as Victory goes, toast while you can
September 29th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
A hearty thank you to those who voted down the bailout and congressmen who voted the bill down should be sent a thank you by constituents. It’s time to clean house, just as Ron Paul said.
Now National CitiBank looks like it might fail too. Looks like the globalists are buying up these failing banks. I urge you to check the banks likely to fail. They are posted on FDIC’s website and at: http://victory1project.wordpress.com/
September 29th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!
September 29th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
God Bless the NWO
September 29th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Yep, rioters and the dreaded “illegal aliens” will be the first corraled mustangs for the new FEMA camps when the depression kicks in..
September 29th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
vote me in in due time my friends
September 29th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
THIS IS SO INSIDIOUS, I LIVE IN THE NETHERLANDS, HERE IN HOLLAND OUR MAINSTREAMMEDIA is NOT only INSINUATING OR IMPLYING THIS 700BLN $ BAILOUT IS A REALITY, THEY JUST PLAINOUT LIE ABOUT IT AND SAY ITS DEFINITIVE,THE DECISION IS MADE….
I CAN SEE IT SO CLEARLY,THEY’RE PREPPING PUBLIC OPINION ABOUT IT OVER HERE IN EUROPE ALSO.
September 29th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Do you believe today’s Congressional vote against the Wall Street bailout is a victory for the American people and a rejection of the attempted extortion by corporate and political elites?
Yes 81% 450
No 19% 107
Total Votes: 557
This is not a scientific poll
But what the hell… there is a mix between NO and HELL NO…
September 29th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Do you believe today’s Congressional vote against the Wall Street bailout is a victory for the American people and a rejection of the attempted extortion by corporate and political elites?
Yes 81% 450
No 19% 107
Total Votes: 557
This is not a scientific poll
September 29th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
It is a most frustrating situation I reckon, why? Because we’re damn if we do and damn if we don’t.
First of all, the Bushes never lose and this ain’t going to be the first time they will. What’s in it for them? Well if the bailout don’t pass then they can buy all the stuff that’s for sale at bargaining prices and we all know there is plenty of that out there. On the other hand however, if the bailout passes then they can get to collect the immense kickbacks from the banking industry which we all know that’s the next industry they want to control, I’m sure the Rockefeller’s ain’t too happy about that.
Second of all, if they want to implement that thing called the N.A.U. with it’s alleged “Amero” then they have to kill the Dollar, why? Because in an effort to make it a successful launch they have to make use of a very American philosophy which is: “if it ain’t broken don’t fix it”..
September 29th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Markets took a 9% HAIRCUT as the House Rejected, by a vote of 228 to 205, the $700 BILLION measure to authorize the biggest government intervention in the markets since the Great Depression. Now before you buy into the Panic remember, the housing market it so over inflated and these banks are so Over-Leveraged on a 74 to 1 Debt ratio. There is NO backing that. Let it Fail and let the DEBT be wiped out permanately…
September 29th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
“The American PEOPLE rejected this Bail Out and now CONGRESS did likewise,” said Republican Representative Mike Pence of INDIANA. A politician who has the ethics to VOTE NO! Do the Millionaire bankers really care about you or your family? Do you think you should cover the BILLIONS they lost speculating? (Speculating = Gambling)
September 29th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
In her speech before the vote, Pelosi said the Bush administration’s policies were “built on Budgetary Recklessness, on an Anything-Goes mentality, with No Regulation, No Supervision and No Discipline in the System.” Wow that kind of is a slap in Bush’s face or do you call that a Bitch slap?
September 29th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
It’s amazing the way they make us believe we fu*k them by defeating the bailout when in reality we are the one that have got fu**ed. American people’s morale is at an all time high because of this, I’m sorry but that means nothing. The sad thing of it is that this whole thing is like a game of chess in which the always win against us, how can we possibly win when we don’t even know we are playing??
September 29th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Thank God, these politicians had the more courage to say no to a BailOut that would help those responsible for the mess. Perhaps Congress can still Win and the people can still Win. The plunge is good, the market is working to get rid of the bad credit the bailout would have put more bad credit in anyway. Fear not!
September 29th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
House DEFEATS $700BILLION markets BaiOut
September 29th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
FlashBack
Jesus threw out the Money Changers (Bankers)
September 29th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Thank you Congressman Paul and all of the others who rejected the destruction of our way of life and our financial system. Thank you for letting us know that our Congressional representatives were being strong-armed into voting for something they weren’t even allowed to read. You are in our prayers. “LORD, who can live in your sacred tent? Who can stay on your holy hill? Anyone who lives without blame and does what is right. He speaks the truth from his heart.” (Psalms 15:1-2). Well done and congratulations!
September 29th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
The main question is, WHY ISN’T RON PAUL ON THE TICKET FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if he was I have a feeling he may be the best man for the job.. I guess now in America we don’t look for the best MAN for the job we just look to fill the job….
Ron Paul is the answer………… I wish America would wake up and smell what is the Roses…..
September 29th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
If there’s a silver lining in what happened on this particular Black Monday, it’s that Republican senators appear to have snapped out of their trance, at least temporariily, and realized that the Bush regime is not conservative but neoconservative–the polite, American term for National Socialist. I heard one saying that perhaps we ought to just let the market settle this matter on its own. Imagine that! A Republican advocating a free market without government intervention! What’ll those daffy Republicans advocate next, small government?
September 29th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
This is a huge win for the American people. We cannot give grandious powers to the Secretary of the Treasury in a Democratic system “run by the people”. The defeated bill in its current form is unconstitutional and implies an inherent “trust” that this person will make the best decision for the country. Not only do we have to “trust” the Secretary, we have totally ignored the proper checks and balances that need to be in place. We cannot forget that point. It’s one of the most overlooked points of this whole debate. The language needs to be clear on this point no matter what type of bailout is proposed. Any authority given to anyone needs to be clear and contain the proper language and measures consistent with a healthy Democracy which includes proper checks and balances.
September 29th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Thank God we have Ron Paul. Also it has been a while since I have been happy with Congress. Stand Up Congress and walk the line of truth!
September 29th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
when does the madness end. all i got to say is to start stock piling food
September 29th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
The Standard & Poor’s 500 Index fell 8.4 percent, the most since Oct. 26, 1987
7891
Have no fear the Fall is natural for overpriced Housing Market. Think of it as Making housing affordable for the Middle Class…
September 29th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
President George W. Bush said he’s “Very disappointed” by the DEFEAT in the House of his $700 BILLION Plan. …
BUSH: Hell yeah Im MAD I forgot to take some pills before this Press Conference and I am looking at telling the American People to NOT buy my Bullshit.
Reporter: Prez will you come up with a strategy to help HomeOwners?
Bush: Hell No I cant come up with a strategy to help myself how am I suppose to Help the American People out, next question…
Reporter2: Do you Think Americans will change their mind now that you have put the fear of going into a Recession into the Public’s mind?
BUSH: I have put no such thought into the taxpayers mind, What I would like is everyone to go back to sleep so we can Help my Banker Friends to be quite Frank. Frank where are you when we need more support for the Bail Out.
Frank: Sorry Prez, I have to answer to the Constitution and not Foreign Banks first…
September 29th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Here is a list of fuckers that voted yes on the 700 billion bailout. Vote them out, burn up their phones.
—- AYES 205 —
Ackerman
Allen
Andrews
Arcuri
Bachus
Baird
Baldwin
Bean
Berman
Berry
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blunt
Boehner
Bonner
Bono Mack
Boozman
Boren
Boswell
Boucher
Boyd (FL)
Brady (PA)
Brady (TX)
Brown (SC)
Fossella
Foster
Frank (MA)
Gilchrest
Gonzalez
Gordon
Granger
Gutierrez
Hall (NY)
Hare
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Herger
Higgins
Hinojosa
Hobson
Holt
Honda
Hooley
Hoyer
Inglis (SC)
Israel
Johnson, E. B.
Kanjorski
Nadler
Neal (MA)
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Pallone
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peterson (PA)
Pickering
Pomeroy
Porter
Price (NC)
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Radanovich
Rahall
Rangel
Regula
Reyes
Reynolds
Richardson
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
September 29th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”
-Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)
September 29th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
I feel like my incessant letter writing to my elected officials, local newspapers, and countless petitions had a positive affect.
If they’d quit trying to save only their corporate cronies, maybe the American voters would be compliant. But, after eight years of lies and crying wolf, it’s not going to happen.
Now, let’s see what happens next.
September 29th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
The stock market has been overpriced for years.
Let all the holders of junk mortgage paper go down along with the stock market. Eventually our dollar will recover and we might rebuild a savings based economy instead of a debt based economy.Benefit US workers and farmers if you hope to ever bring this country back to its Former Huge Growth Potential…
Vote NO BAil OUT
September 29th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Glad to see that hat knocked out of the hands of the Wall Street Thieves coming back to the Trough for more Taxpayer CASH.
Where do I line up for the FREE Billions? Who gets the majority of the FREE Billions? Homeowners or Fat Cat Banksters?
September 29th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
I plan to write in Ron Paul for president. I know it won’t elect him (and I hope Diebold won’t change it to Mark of Cain) but I can sleep better through the coming Greater Depression.
September 29th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
This whole agenda is so fully a worldwide thing. Even New Zealand is in the NWO firing line. I have done some research and found the following in relation to the FREE FLU VACCINATIONS we are offered each year and the massive marketing and awareness campaign backing it. New Zealand recieves all its flu vaccinations through a scheme run by the one and only World Health Organisation. As many of you probably know the WHO was partially formed and run by the Rockefeller crime syndicate. Now the company that produces most of the vaccines is Sanofi-Pasteur, a division of the sanofi-aventis group which is of course owned by the Rockefellers. How this all connects and as many of you are probably aware thanks to Alex Jones, The Rockefellers are key followers of the eugenics movement, perhaps even the global front for the movement. What i believe to be happening right now is the mass exposure of people in many countries of the cancer viruses which have been proven to be in some of Sanofi-Pasteur flu vaccines. This crisis is worldwide and those a-holes at the top need to be kicked off their highchairs.
September 29th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
I’m against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.
Instead, I’m in favor of GIVING $85,000,000,000 to America in
a We Deserve It Dividend.
To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000
bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.
Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman
and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..
So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.
My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a
We Deserve It Dividend.
Of course, it would NOT be tax free.
So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%.
Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.
But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
A husband and wife has $595,000.00.
What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
Pay off your mortgage – housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans – what a great boost to new grads
Put away money for college – it’ll be there
Save in a bank – create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car – create jobs
Invest in the market – capital drives growth
Pay for your parent’s medical insurance – health care improves
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean – or else
Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ INCLUDING the folks
who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company
that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.
If we’re going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!
As for AIG – liquidate it!
Sell off its parts.
Let American General go back to being American General.
Sell off the real estate.
Let the private-sector bargain-hunters cut it up and clean it up.
Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn’t.
Can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!
How do you spell Economic Boom?
I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion
We Deserve It Dividend more than the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC.
And remember, The plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned
instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.
September 29th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Personally I feel like this is a bad idea to bail out the banks who have so generously given loans to people who could not afford them. Most people would be willing to refinance to a lower rate and payment given the opportunity. Some will still go into forclosure. Throwing money at Banks is not the answer. Giving people the opportunity to pay for what they have at a reasonable rate is a step in the right direction.
When Reagan took us off the gold standard is when all the trouble started. Oil is not 100 + dollars a barrel. It is about 65 Dinar a barrel. Just like it has been. Our currency has lost it’s value so it takes more to pay the same price in foreign currency. Stop importing oil for say 2 to 5 years and see what happens.
September 29th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
They want to revote on this bailout, even though we won! Everyone needs to blow up the phone lines and tell their congressmen we didn’t want it the first time, why would we want to change our minds?!?
here is a link you can go to
votenobailout.org
September 29th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Rikncrew-
Methinks your math is off.
Doesn’t it come out to be $425/person? You sure you’re not an ivestment banker?;)
September 29th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
funfunfun http://allaboutGod.com
September 29th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Dow down 777 points? I smell some voodoo…
September 29th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
By the time the economy collapses, it’s going to be too late. Some Americans are still asleep and have no idea whats really going on. When people start losing their jobs and their homes, that’s when things are really going to get worse. Late to the party I say.
September 29th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
“The vote against the measure was 228 to 205, with 133 REPUBLICANS Joining 95 DEMOCRATS in opposition to the Fraud to Swindle the American Public. The Defeated Bill was backed by 140 Democrats and 65 Republicans.”…
I only wish I lived in Pelosi’s District so I could Help Vote Her OUT of Office for this.
She knows that she is Voting for not enough OVERSIGHT, nor does it help Homeowners or offer any benefit to Taxpayers. Pretty Easy sell on the NO VOTE. Guess that is why it WON today…
September 29th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
`”I fear that ultimately it may not work,” Representative Jeb Hensarling, a Texas Republican, said before the vote. The plan may put the U.S. on the “Slippery Slope to Socialism (I.E. Communism),” he said. Wow, lets get this right, if the Government hands over 700 BILLION to get us started we dont know how much of America they could sell before we know our country is Foreign Owned? Hmmm Slippery Slope is right. Keep America for Americans!
September 29th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
The Federal Reserve has been a serious player against all who oppose them. Let’s not get too excited here. Since the Fed is the creator of this financial system, you can bet your bottom dollar that they will now pull out the stops. Anything can happen now. If they want to “punish” congress or we the people they can easily unleash a panic of any sort they want. Andrew Jackson in the 1830’s fought against the recharter of the 2nd Bank and succesfully endured all of the fury of Biddle, the bank head. Then after congress and Jackson let the charter lapse, the Bank unleashed an immediate “panic” of the markets in retaliation. Then a few weeks later an assasin came up to Jackson and fired point blank at the sitting Jackson and the two bullets misfired. Lincoln had his life taken because he issued his own greenbacks, Kennedy did the same and was taken out. This present crisis is/was engineered by this Federal Reserve System as an instrument to seize more power, possibly completing the coup d’tat that started in 2000 w/ the installation of Bush. It will be interesting to see what kind of an escalation of arm twisting or other things are added to the crisis to pressure lawmakers to change their mind.
September 29th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Those greedy leaders will probably keep up with the threats and do everything they can (they have money to commit violence) to bring the American people to their knees. The American people have to stick together and help one another and remain positive. None of that negative crazy prison control violence crap. We can survive this if we do it positively and with the safety of our future generation(s) in mind. There are more good people than not! Our so-called leaders don’t seem to be doing much except causing trouble and thinking of themselves. I hope this all works out for the best.
September 29th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
All I have to say is stock up on food, water, guns and ammo and be ready for a war. It’s clear that the government doesn’t give a damn about it’s citizens.
September 29th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
I wish The congressman would have stayed in the running!however he didnt so when it comes time to cast my vote Im writing Samuel l. Jackson for pres.
I mean really Hed be a better candidate!He couldnt do much worse than old George W.
As Far as Mccain How are you going to be the commander in “CHIEF” of the Best millitary in the world when you failed as a soldier and GOT CAPTURED?!?!
September 29th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Ron Paul is not running. Vote for Bob Barr.
September 29th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
The Swedes took part of the companies as payment for the bailout. We can’t do that, because it’s too much like *SOCIALISM*. We do it the American way instead - just give the companies the money with no strings attached. Theft is much more American than socialism, don’t you agree? Hey Doc where did you park the car…
September 29th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
All I can say is, I smell a rat. Or should I say, I smell several rats. Something about the 9/11 attacks, the Afghan. war, war in Iran, failing financial institutions, etc., seems like a big set up. It seems as if some person or group of people are orchestrating events in order to dominate the citizens of the world. I don’t believe one bit that there isn’t enough money to bail us out of this financial mess which I believe was deliberately created. Furthermore, I don’t believe that one organization alone (i.e., The Fed. Reserve) should have that much power. Truth be told, there’s nothing “federal” about them. In fact, they are very much a private institution. The latest thing is that we’re “forced” to convert to digital TV by Feb. ‘09. Why? (I ask this as a rhetorical question of course.) National ID’s comes next, forced human implantation of RFIDs comes after that. Sounds to me like a takeover if I ever smelled one!!! Can it be that our own government is the terrorist? Hmmmm….
September 29th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Bob Barr, are you serious, please tell me you are kidding? He couldn’t find his as with both hands!?
September 29th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
That’s exactly what these criminal idiots are trying to do. They’re trying to destroy the dollar. And this little setback for them is only a temporary delay. Watch as they find another method to stick it up our asses. They’re attempting to crash our economy so we will be dependent upon them for life’s basic necessities.
September 29th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Want to know a good stock?
Wonder where all the money is?
I’ll bet Bush and Cheney have Suites in Dubai.
Bank Et-Tamweel Al-Tunisi Al-Saudi raises net operating income by 37% in the first half of 2008
September 29th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
To Hope - a poem by John Keats
To Hope
John Keats
When by my solitary hearth I sit,
And hateful thoughts enwrap my soul in gloom;
When no fair dreams before my “mind’s eye” flit,
And the bare heath of life presents no bloom;
Sweet Hope, ethereal balm upon me shed,
And wave thy silver pinions o’er my head!
Whene’er I wander, at the fall of night,
Where woven boughs shut out the moon’s bright ray,
Should sad Despondency my musings fright,
And frown, to drive fair Cheerfulness away,
Peep with the moonbeams through the leafy roof,
And keep that fiend Despondence far aloof!
Should Disappointment, parent of Despair,
Strive for her son to seize my careless heart;
When, like a cloud, he sits upon the air,
Preparing on his spell-bound prey to dart:
Chase him away, sweet Hope, with visage bright,
And fright him as the morning frightens night!
Whene’er the fate of those I hold most dear
Tells to my fearful breast a tale of sorrow,
O bright-eyed Hope, my morbidfancy cheer;
Let me awhile thy sweetest comforts borrow:
Thy heaven-born radiance around me shed,
And wave thy silver pinions o’er my head!
Should e’er unhappy love my bosom pain,
From cruel parents, or relentless fair;
O let me think it is not quite in vain
To sigh out sonnets to the midnight air!
Sweet Hope, ethereal balm upon me shed,
And wave thy silver pinions o’er my head!
In the long vista of the years to roll,
Let me not see our country’s honour fade:
O let me see our land retain her soul,
Her pride, her freedom; and not freedom’s shade.
From thy bright eyes unusual brightness shed
Beneath thy pinions canopy my head!
Let me not see the patriot’s high bequest,
Great Liberty! how great in plain attire!
With the base purple of a court oppress’d,
Bowing her head, and ready to expire:
But let me see thee stoop from heaven on wings
That fill the skies with silver glitterings!
And as, in sparkling majesty, a star
Gilds the bright summit of some gloomy cloud;
Brightening the half veil’d face of heaven afar:
So, when dark thoughts my boding spirit shroud,
Sweet Hope, celestial influence round me shed,
Waving thy silver pinions o’er my head!
To Hope
John Keats
In the name of God, and of the founding fathers, I bid ye Americans rise up and fight for your nation, your Republic, and your freedom.
The world is watching you and praying for you all.
September 29th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
JOHNNY BRAVO I WILL FIGHT ALONG SIDE YOU ANYDAY ……..
September 29th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
My parents bought a 900 s.f. brand new home for their growing family, on a 1/4 acre lot, in 1957. Four kids were raised to adulthood in that home. Three went to college. I myself built a 1600 s.f. ranch with my own hands twenty five years ago. It cost $45,000 to build, and I retired the mortgage ahead of schedule ten years ago by living within my means. Today, the adage that ‘the business of America is business’ has morphed into a mantra and battle plan of manic greed. Careerism has replaced professionalism. Expedience has replaced the pride that comes from leading an honest life. This reality is exactly what our handlers want. I suspect that they have it all sorted out like so: manufacturing goes to Asia; IT goes to India; America, perhaps both north and south, are for food production. Banking will be New York, London, and Hong Kong. Excess populations will self destruct from internal strife, malnutrition, and disease. All neatly arranged for the mass murdering, traitorous control freaks. We must overcome this!
September 29th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
I like Rikncrew’s plan (post 101). Give the funds to the people to invest. Of course that won’t happen, because how can ya start a dictatorship with empowered people? It’s a great idea, though. Rickncrew for president!!!
September 29th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Gold investments are not secure. I went $5,000 negative in the last gold ‘investment’ when they sold gold like mad after the ‘high’. Be careful. Gold can be manipulated like anything else, Regardless of Ted and Alex plugging it all the time, you can LOSE, BIG TIME. We not only lost our initial investment but went $5000 loss. Be Careful! Dont just believe Gold will save you. Gold is up and down all the time and is being used like everything else.
A few coins maybe.
September 30th, 2008 at 12:07 am
Well indeed the “Truth should set us free” and here it is, at the close of business yesterday and just in time for the Jewish New Year the Dow Jones closed with a final reading of 777.7 point reading (See here. http://www.guardian.co.uk/busi.....etturmoil1
) Let me enlighten those who don’t understand the meaning of 7777. The Jewish New Year is 5769 and the Christian calendar is 2008 now add both dates together and you have the magic number 7777. Our governments even wanted to put us in debt for this amount only it would have been 7777 billions dollars. You heard it here on the Show everyone should now be listening to.
September 30th, 2008 at 12:25 am
I don’t get it!? America went into Iraq based on lies, a country that America’s politicians supported in it’s dictatorships then you decided one day you didn’t like watching Saddam step out on his own, you had him killed.
Now you fuckers are whining and crying about your own poor country getting ravaged by the same politicians and act as if you didn’t see it coming?
America, FUCK YOU!! The best thing to see would be America changed into the same frredom land of Iraq. You fucks killing one another for revenge and food. Ya fucking selfish cunts should suffer for the hell you’ve been putting families through. FUCK YOU!!
September 30th, 2008 at 12:55 am
More and more the media is adapting the government’s “it’s for the children” line into the general public being its chosen “children” (or at least morons) instead.
ABC news, in particular, has had ‘the goodness’ to “explain” to its viewers the function of banks and their importance in the economy to us. They literally said that the best way they could think to explain it would be in a cartoon. The proceeded to have a “gentle man” speaking as if to an idiot or young child explain banks loan money “good” (with cash registers ringing) and no loaning money “bad”, no cash register ringing.
What made it more outrageous is that they had the person representing to public sound inarticulate, sometimes only grunting noises in disagreement or assent, and while speaking in a tone of voice like Bullwinkle.
September 30th, 2008 at 12:57 am
Hey PASSWORD, why don’t you move to Iraq. You think we like what has transpired there? We didn’t give the permission. It is a rouge government, and yes we did see it coming!
September 30th, 2008 at 12:59 am
We are going to Hell and taking the world with us, hear Ron Paul, we are dragging you down with us. Set up the digital $ and microchip world market, it’s all digit capital anyhow.
We can pay the Federal Reserve to make the verichip, in order to buy or sell goods, if you don’t have the chip then you are a “Dead-ender” or hold out insurgent.
September 30th, 2008 at 1:09 am
Americans don’t like big government but they like big army. Isn’t that part of your government either? So save your economy and have smaller government by cutting the defense budget and put that money into your economy.
September 30th, 2008 at 1:12 am
I remember that Ford and Carter actually debate policies and even used somewhat real economic figures. Pol. ads today don’t make an argument. They only make unsupported assertions without even the dignity or decency of using complete sentences! It is as they think people as just tabula rosas to have their collective subconscious minds’ imprinted upon (”Obama dangerous. McCain good. Me Tarzan. You Jane.”)
‘Jack and Jill went up the Hill’ has more literary merit than these empty phrases do! It is so insulting!
ABC and all the news media (CNN, too) have taken the definite slant about this tax-payer larceny (which will end up being over 1 trillion) that the congress out to just “get ‘er done! What’s the holdup boys?” They use loaded words like “progress” and “holdup”. It is so frustrating.
When, for example, ABC “explained” the crisis they never mentioned deregulation, Paulson’s role in creating derivitives and what that led to, the Fed’s inflationary policies, greed, or, of course, the legitimate reasons to be against the so-called bailout. ABC is just pushing, and I do mean *pushing hard*, the idea that more money creation and circulation=good, and less is bad, without any reference to inflation, bubbles, needed corrections, cycles, accountability, or the discretion that banks have in determining to whom they lend. Not to mention the role of RISK/reward in underpinning any ‘capitalist’ system.
Most American non-children/non-morons are upset and see through this as, essentially, larceny on a grand scale. The calls to Congressmen are 50 to 100-1 against as of yesterday. The media, though, is doing their best (and Wall Street as well) to scare the sh*t out of the public into giving in (”The market will crash, you won’t be able to borrow money to send your kids to college…”)
Through my basic figurings I found out that the total value of the stock market it 1987 was about 2.5 trillion before and 2.0 trillion after the collapse. Scarcely more than 20 years later and the stock market value, I think, was about 18.5 Tn yesterday and about 17.3 Tn today.
The stock market in 1987 reached a low of 2 Tn capitalization. When the market was at the top, 14,000 (in 2006 I believe) the total value was about 23.5 Tn. This represents an over 1,000% increase not adjusted for inflation. Isn’t that a bubble? That rate of increase far outpaces the income increases of Americans since then. The news is paying scant attention to the “funny money” issue which is more central, certainly, than the mortgage scandal.
September 30th, 2008 at 1:15 am
This seems to be turning into the 1929 debacle all over again. The banking titans get their hostile takeovers for pennies on the dollar. Remember the biggest banks that are doing the buying right now are major stockholders in the Federal Reserve System itself and control the Fed and consequently the currency. They are not going to fail because they have a front door key to the printing press. Remember that the Fed just injected 680 billion dollars into the system on news that the taxpayer bailout failed. This was a natural consequence of too much credit by the Fed arising from artificially low interest rates, and the banking behemoths will take every advantage of this as the boom/bust cycle goes further bust. The non-insider banks like Wachovia and WashingtonM are already being hijacked by the titans in the biggest consolidation process the world may ever see. Many more will fall.
September 30th, 2008 at 1:16 am
Anyone posting here get any threatning emails in the past week to stop posting from “NWO agent 3658″? Says…if i dont, i will be punished accordingly? I emailed him back and yahoo kicked the email back to me….says it was an invalid address?
September 30th, 2008 at 1:18 am
From his debates with Bernanke, I don’t believe Ron Paul understands basic economics.
September 30th, 2008 at 1:49 am
ERIC ARE YOU SERIOUS RON PAUL HAS BEEN WARNING ABOUT THIS CRISES FOR YEARS AND NOW IT HAS COME YOU WANT TO BELIEVE THE IDIOTS WHO CAUSED IT INSTEAD OF A GUY WHO WARNED AGAINST IT. IM SORRY I HAVE TO INSULT YOU BUT YOU MUST BE DRINKING COOLAID OR HAVE A SMALL IQ,
September 30th, 2008 at 1:56 am
THE DOLLAR IS GONE BUT IT WILL JUST TAKE A LITTLE LONGER ANYONE WHO READS THESE MESSAGES AND KEEPS HIS MONEY IN CASH IS STUPID BEYOND BELIEF. GET OUT OF THE DOLLAR AND GET YOUR MONEY OUT OF THE BANKS. ITS PLAIN ECONOMIC SENSE THE PRETENSE THIS IS GOING TO LEAD TO ANYTHING BUT A DISASTER IS GONE. THE GIG IS UP, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER BILL THATS HOW THESE GUYS WORK, ITS USUALLY THE SAME DEAL BUT A LITTLE DIFFERENT. IN ENGLAND WE HAD THE POLE TAX WHICH WAS INTRODUCED IN THE 1990S s IT WAS SO UNPOPULAR IT WAS REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH COUNCIL TAX. NOW INSTEAD WE PAY £1200, THATS $2000 DOLLARS EVEN IF YOU RENT AND HOUSE OR FLAT,PER HOUSE INSTEAD OF PER PERSON. THE PLAN THEY ALWAYS PUT FORWARD IS SO BAD THE NEXT ONE DOES NOT SEEM AS BAD BUT IT IS PART OF THE PLAN. ACCEPT NO BAILOUT, ENGLAND IS LINKED SO MUCH TO AMERICA IT WILL BE AS BAD FOR US BECAUSE ALL THOSE BIG WALLSTREET FIRMS YOU THINK ARE AMERICAN ARE JUST AS BRITISH IF YOY FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL. THANK GOD I GOT MY MONEY OUT AND BOUGHT GOLD
September 30th, 2008 at 2:05 am
I think it is time to get your money out of the bank.
September 30th, 2008 at 2:37 am
As much as all this incites anger and violence within us that is not the solution. The government expects us to react violently as a reason to enforce martial law. Honestly, my gut feeling is the economic collapse is a good thing and needs to happen for the markets to come down to their real values. All a collapse means is bankruptcy which means the creditors will own the assets. A lot of money will be lost by some and jobs as well but this ‘depression’ has been long over due. Americans can live within their means for a year or so. This bailout is absurd. We are so inflated and bloated it’s ridiculous. I know many will say much of this was a pretext to set the stage for the NWO. Maybe, maybe not. Be happy and take one day at a time. That’s all we can do at this point. Of course, food preparations wouldn’t hurt. Knowledge is our only defense.
September 30th, 2008 at 3:19 am
Ron Paul is my hero!
Rhonda
September 30th, 2008 at 3:21 am
The usual people who started and ran the Money Bombs for both Ron Paul and I believe did for Alex Jones also, are now attempting to run one for a chosen third party candidate if they get enough signed up backers. Now that a candidate seems to have become the most preferred, I recommend going to this website………
http://www.thirdpartyticket.com/
It is called “Third Party Ticket”. This is the central point at this time, even though it was not known that it would be because of Dr. Paul’s Chuck Baldwin endorsement since it recently started, that will get anything as a group that is organized done. Go there and read about it and become part of it. Tnx.
Rhonda
September 30th, 2008 at 3:24 am
All right. Looking at things logically in the “war” for our minds, it seems that we are not growing fast enough in equivalent to “them” coming out with all these laws, rules, regulations, and upscaled brutality. There are still so many people to “waken up”, but I see there is one thing that will get the people to muster together to the point of believing people like this group who bravely met and had their “down with the regime” conference.
Most people say here and some have even called into Alex Jones’ radio show to say that they are having such a hard time getting others to believe the “truth” stories. Yes, many have “awakened”, but percentage-wise, it is small. There is only one thing that will snap all the nation’s people to finally “get it”, where people who are like this brave group and those handing out “truth” DVD’s or flyers, will be able to be listened to almost immediately. That one thing might happen in the next 40 days or maybe an additional 75 days or so. It was said here by others and has been spoken about for years, starting from the Clinton era before he left office.
The only thing that will snap the entire country into “awakefulness” or realization of the “truth”, is to have Marshal Law, to stop either the presidential election somehow or to stop the transfer of power over to the president elect. All other Constitutional laws have been broken by this regime and the people have accepted it, but it seems that they want to have the Constitutional election. So what we need is to have that Marshal Law which seems to be the only thing that the people are saying that they will accept for stopping an election by the Constitution.
If the election or transition of power is done, then I would tend to believe that we really are in trouble because no one would transfer power, which technically is the same thing as giving oneself up to the authorities for crimes committed, unless that person(s) was assured of a safe haven and if a safe haven is available, that means that whomever is taking over the power position would be condoning all crimes committed and therefore would be just as bad as this regime. That allowance of the transfer of power would then obviously be done for a facade, to help fool the people, making it look like “CHANGE” actually is happening, when it would not be.
MARSHAL LAW (or the stoppage of the presidential CHANGEover) IS OUR SAVIOR that will gather the people together in one fell swoop that is not happening now,
Rhonda
September 30th, 2008 at 3:26 am
Since so many people want to know what to do, when is the gunfighting going to start, or just claim what they would do if such and such a situation ever happened to them or one of their own, maybe all those capable should find out where Alex Jones, Ron Paul, Jessie Ventura, and many of the other patriots who Alex has interviewed are and follow them around all day long giving them body guard services.
Now, obviously the enemy will eventually start something that will start a shoot out, but the defense will obviously be a glorious one that will go down in history as the first shot of the real revolution, the day when the battle cry started from the masses, not just the few. The enemy of course has the high tech weapondry and the tanks and aircraft, but it will be an organized effort on the part of the ones who are serious and capable of doing something for the first time as the question constantly arises about everyone organizing somehow to do something useful for the cause of stopping this police state we are now in.
Ones like Alex, Dr. Paul, and Jessie Ventura are alone in a sense. They are lone wolves. They are loners. They are the ones who are presently out on the front line. So why not start an organized effort yourselves to be with those loners on the front line while you can? Go help those on the front line already, bodily help that is, not just writing here or buying some of their books. Physically they have no protection, even if they have private body guards. Those who are capable of doing what I just suggested now become publically involved and the front liners are the ones who need it most giving them the backing they need for their very lives that they do not have presently. I am sure that someone here can now expand on this to make it work. Yes?
Rhonda
September 30th, 2008 at 7:10 am
I SAY LET THE WHOLE LOT COME DOWN.
THEN WHAT WILL THE GREEDY BANKERS HAVE ON US.
AND WHEN 5 MILLION PEOPLE LOOSE THEIR HOMES THEY WILL GO LOOKING FOR THOSE GREEDY BANKERS AND I WOULD NOT WANNA BE ONE OF THEM NO SIR.
September 30th, 2008 at 9:05 am
Nothing will change until you hold your media accountable for their instrumental part in all of this. Anyone with internet access has know this collapse was coming for years. You could see it was by design. Now the media continues with this idiotic attitude that they always have to portray economic situations beter than they are to instill confidence. What a crock. Rupert Murdoch and others need hunted down like the dogs they are and a patriotic American organization taking over “ALL” aspects of the media. Lets face it. When the truth needs to be known you can rely on the current breed of American media to run the other way.
It may sound like fascism to take media of the hands of private interests but exactly how could it be much worse. Govt and Private organizations shouldnt be allowed near a printing press or a tv or radio station. A body independent of govt and private enterprise with direct citizen oversight is the only way to free humanity.
And if you dont think humanity is going through a rough patch ask yourself why your food is being poisoned, your water poisoned, your money devalued, alternative fuels to help a planet warming that has in actuality being cooling for 8 years straight, in turn leading to food shortages, deceiving our bravest and finest into going to war for a crime that utimately can be proved they (this admin) played a part in. Then using a sleight of hand to leave the guy they blamed well alone, flying his family to safety, because the reality was they never wanted his head in the first place they wanted the dude with the oil. So they parroted lies about Sadaam, repeated the mantra of 911 Saddaam 911 Saadam 911 Al CIA DOH the lied about lying, and lied about lying about the lies. The war continues to enrich Cheneys Haliburton, no conflict of interest there then, all the govt cronies continue to profit from the war and they are looking to start another one on what they claim is sound intelligence, GROUNDHOG DAY. Now you have this fiasco that analyists were warning of years ago, the media kept very quiet, they were out hunting wabbits I guess. And even the bailout hiccup causes an upset in the market meaning some people lose a lot of lot of money. But like everything in the finance game when one loses another benefits, and this whole bailout hiccup sounds contrived to appease Americans so their congress actually appears to be doing the basics of the job but it also has the smell of a financial swindle, and they will get their bailout. BECAUSE PRESIDENTS DONT CONTROL AMERICA. THEDFY HAVENT FOR A LONG TIME. The fed, private corporations, the industrial military complex and far too much Jewish influence controls the direction of America. Any President elected by the people to change this and attempts to set things right will magically be erased from the scene. American govt is a shambles, an embarrasment and the bottom line is they are spineless. They dont rock the boat for fear of losing their cushy number, and the ones with any integrity get it pretty much intimidated out of them, even if its psychological and subtle.
Ron Paul was something else. America missed its chance to elect the best President America would have seen since the very 1st one. That is if the shadow govt didnt eliminate him as soon as he stepped out of line.
Its sad but America cant be repaired. Its rotten to the core. It has to fall much further. Sometimes somethings are beyond saving and I truly believe that about America. The stranglehold on it is too powerful to wrested away from the criminals. Everytime the truth is spoken the COINTEL PRO kicks in. I truly believe even the 911 debate is being controlled. I ask about the insane amount of dust, the vaporization of concrete, steel, bodies and pretty much everything except paper. i ask about visual anomolies showing dustification/vaporization in action and if this could be blach tech weapons we havent been made aware of and I get accused of being a disinfo agent for the govt. Havent people learned anything when they were suckered the 1st time. I dont adhere to any fast ad hard theory about 911 except it isnt what we are told by the govt. Apart from that Ive got an open mind. There just seems to be a missing gap between conventional explosives and missing vaporized bodies, vaporized everything, lack of debris. The fact no one looking for the truth talks about this bothers me, and if the truth movement hangs its coat on conventional explosives and it is ultimately proved wrong where does that leave it. They should only concentrate on what didnt happen. Because I feel the govts 1st job would be to infiltrate this movement to control the debate away from certain key points. Talk of black tech and you get ridiculed despite the evidence showing something very funky going on that cutting charges doesnt explain. Everyone seems to be getting suckered on the 911 thing all over again by pitching their tents firmly in a camp when all they can say for sure is they really dont know the whole truth. Yet a closed mind is the order of the day. A closed mind is why America is falling with those towers.
September 30th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
An Analysis Of The Change Issue
As yet another Presidential election season has come due, it is well worth noting that “change” has become a constantly recurring campaign slogan in American elections. Those intellectuals who opt to continue onward with such a tired refrain are well aware that very little will change for the betterment of the American public-at-large, in spite of the media-controlled flood of campaign rhetoric on behalf of the respective nominees.
Many Americans may well wonder, “Why is it that we desire change in the first place?”
Whereas the Constitution of the United States was originally fabricated in order to give the American citizens a simple guideline for their representative government, more than two- hundred years of incessant Legislation has produced a miasma of orders, acts, statues and laws that are repugnant to the Constitution - each time these ideas have been merged into public policy in the name of change.
read the rest @ http://beholdtheforce.blogspot.com/
September 30th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Marshall law my ass. She is abusing her power. we need our rights back from the insider crooks.
October 1st, 2008 at 2:45 am
martial law http://www.obamacrimes.com obama you mama. no mo obama he was born in kenya and cant run leglly. LOL http://www.donaldtrumphair.com http://www.thepentacon.com yo mama obama.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:48 am
I would like to know who came up with the 700 billion amount and how did “they”get to that figure?
October 1st, 2008 at 11:18 am
The 700 billion bail out is bullshit. The government borrowed 1 Trilliion Dollars to buy up Freddie Mac/Fanny Mae without any approval. Why do they suddenly need permission to borrow 700 billion in the name of the taxpayer. Its so they can blame the people when the bailout is rejected. Then they can cancel the elections, declare martial law and collapse the economy.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:45 pm
They want a fascist planet with the superwealthy ruling it all
Since we’re too independent, America must be led to fall
When our credit’s been exhausted to subdue the Middle East,
They’ll install our debtor nation in the body of The Beast
Traitor…Dare call it treason
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw5dP5gy2Vs
October 1st, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Lorenzo, no one is too Independant until the money runs out. Everone is full of food and beer and sitting in front of their T.V. God help ‘em. Even in Skid row everone gets a meal as long as they smile sweetly for Pharoah. If this shitball falls apart and I am run down by whoever, I won’t like it but I will understand. What the evil and money obsessed people have done to this world has made it a world not worth living in or fighting for. The Myth strippers have swapped stories of Legend for veiled state legislation, given this process happened a long time ago for most people but here in N.A. what my people have done to the Natives is reason enough for, how can I say it … a little drama. And as the Royals have everything sewn up here with no real rivalry maybe the flux will come from an unexpected source. Please, no more modified french revolutions. You know they love those.
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:59 pm
In all this talk about Bailout, I have not heard or seen one word about the most powerful elitist money group, The Council On Foreign Relations, or CFR, led by David Rockefeller, its Chairman Emeritus, whose goal is to bring about a One-World Government, which includes the destruction of all existing free sovereign nations, including the USA. In fact, they have been working to bring about the merger of the USA with Mexico and Canada, under the tightest of media blackout, which Rockefeller has repeatedly bragged about.
Most Americans know nothing about all this, because they would be up in arms if they knew about such treason. And the CFR is highly involved in this election, with Sen John McCain a long-time member, posing as a patriotic American. The White House is loaded with these characters, including our Vice President Dick Cheney, and Secretary of State Condaleeza Rice, as was the President’s daddy, George H. Bush, who admitted to me personally at a rally
in Brockton, MA., that he had been a member. I do not know whether Obama is pert of it.
For the USA to ever recover, this Trojan Horse network must be exposed and removed from our midst permanently. Copies of their Annual Reports which contain their membership lists are available free at 212-434-9400, in New York City.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:06 pm
This is bullsh*t this is Bullsh*t!!! We need to march on washington and let them know we are the people and we will be heard!!! IF they pass the bill tomorrow we march on washington and take our country back!!
October 3rd, 2008 at 5:34 am
lol ron paul’s pissed!
thats the most pissed i ever seen him like that
October 4th, 2008 at 6:52 am
“They want a fascist planet with the superwealthy ruling it all
Since we’re too independent, America must be led to fall
When our credit’s been exhausted to subdue the Middle East,
They’ll install our debtor nation in the body of The Beast
Traitor…Dare call it treason”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw5dP5gy2Vs
–CORNBREAD MAFIA
October 5th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
The beginning of the end …….stay tuned …….more to come !!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 7th, 2008 at 8:50 am
Ron Paul is just a rare few that have spoken up for the American public against such a bailout plan.When you go to the voting booths this November,remember to write in “Ron Paul”,for president,and let your voice be heard,also have you heard any positive comments from our other candiates,which are only paid actors to the Global Elite and their agenda?
John McCain voted for the bill,so did Barack Obama do the same.
So how much more bailouts with the devaluation of the american dollar will we be able to take before we reach financial collapse??
October 10th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
This is gonna be short. But I’m a full on 100% liberal, hardcore liberal, but I think Ron Paul’s got this thing totally right. I totally support him on this issue, and that’s a hard thing for me to admit.
November 11th, 2008 at 9:10 am
Wake up America!
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