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    Ron Paul Fears Staged Iran Pretext Could Bring National Draft 050808cheney

    Paul Joseph Watson
    Prison Planet
    Tuesday, August 5, 2008

    Congressman Ron Paul fears that a staged incident exploited as a pretext to attack Iran may be the precursor to a national draft, as he responded to Sy Hersh’s astounding report that Dick Cheney proposed faking a Gulf of Tonkin style incident by killing Americans in the Straits of Hormuz and blaming it on Iran.

    “The influence is still there that they want it to happen, they probably themselves don’t have a day set to do it but they’re waiting for an opportunity and something will come along,” Paul told the Alex Jones Show.

    “They’re capable of doing anything,” said Paul, refering to the consideration unveiled in the Downing Street Memo, where Bush and Blair discussed painting a U2 spy plane in UN colors and goading Saddam to have it shot down as a pretext to invade Iraq.

    (ARTICLE CONTINUES BELOW)


    Asked about Cheney’s proposal to kill Americans as part of a false flag attack to be blamed on Iran, Paul responded, “The sad part is a lot of people won’t be surprised….it’s tragic, it’s sad, all we have to do is have one our ships hit and a bunch of Americans killed and one or two news stations say it was the Iranians and the country’s going to be ready to go to war, they’d even be willing to call a draft to say we have to go to save Israel, we have to march in, so we need a draft – that’s the worst part that I fear,” said the Congressman.

    Back in January 2007, Paul voiced his fears on the House floor of a “contrived Gulf of Tonkin style incident that may well occur to gain popular support for an attack on Iran.”

    During an appearance on the Alex Jones Show last month, Congressman Paul said that a strike on Iran has already been green lighted, judging from what his contacts in and around Congress were telling him.

    “It is still totally bewildering to me when I see men and women in the Congress that I know and like doing this just to get along. Most of them will say “I agree with you on all you say but the Iranians are bad people and they might attack us some day… I hear members of Congress saying ‘if we could only nuke them’,” said Paul.

    During an event at the Campus Progress journalism conference earlier this month, journalist Sy Hersh detailed how a meeting took place in Dick Cheney’s office on the subject of “how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington,” part of an ongoing effort to provide an excuse to attack Iran.

    “There was a dozen ideas proffered about how to trigger a war,” Hersh explains. “The one that interested me the most was why don’t we build — we in our shipyard — build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats. Put Navy seals on them with a lot of arms. And next time one of our boats goes to the Straits of Hormuz, start a shoot-up.”


    Keith Olbermann covered the story on his Friday show. 

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    57 Responses to “Ron Paul Fears Staged Iran Pretext Could Bring National Draft”

    1. Dave Says:

      More like “we can’t do it now that 9/11 is being exposed by people”. But a false flag is still always a possiblity, espescially from Israel.

    2. Barrack Obama Says:

      The US government is its own worst enemy. A military draft? Bring it on! I WANT to see all Hell break loose when they start trying to draft today’s young radicals into the US military. They’ll be REALLY sorry if a lot of those radicals comply and start sabotaging the system from within. The Draft? Bring it on! It will mark the Beginning of the End for the fascist USA.

    3. m.arshad Says:

      i sincerely hope that genuine christians , muslims and others recognise that this mischief is being done by zionist jews in the world in the name of judaism.

      The muslims currently are the victims and the christians are being used as the aggressors to cause a clash of civilizations between them both by this pefidious human rubbish called zionists.

      when will you people wake up in the west as to these machinations being used by these liars against us poor voters and taxpayers.
      so far all these crimes are punishable under human rights abuses,war crime trials, and treason. yet there is no justice for the masses.

      there is a clear warning to the jews in the koran which is pertinent even today and it would be better for them not to overlook it,
      TWICE WE WARNED THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL NOT TO CAUSE MISCHIEF IN THE LAND,WHEN THE FIRST OF OUR WARNINGS CAME TO PASS WE SENT AGAINST YOU OUR SERVANTS GIVEN TO TERRIBLE WARFARE( THE ASSYRIANS SORTED OUT YOU LOT THEN).
      WHEN THE SECOND WARNING CAME TO PASS WE SENT OUR SERVANTS TO THE INNERMOST OF YOUR HOMES WHO DEFACED YOU(the romans did that as you know) IF YOU REVERT TO YOUR SINS WE WILL REVERT TO OUR PUNISHMENTS.
      this is clearly written for these misfits of the human race who will do any evil against anyone to further they evil ends,including killing american servicemen whom they claim to protect and yet are plotting and planning to murder them for the benefit of———-Israel!

      the muslims are not the enemies of the christians, wake up to the true realitys and take your religion and countrys back from these killers and murderers hiding behind a facade of christian names.

      the unbelievers plot and plan, but ALLAH is the best of planners.

      like before in history you zionist jews will lose and your crimes against humanity will lay open which will turn the christian world against your
      people resulting in horrible revenge, foretold again by the prophet of islam in a prophecy 1425 years ago!

      what goes around will come around says the christian, so wait till gods decision comes upon you which it must, there is a creator who runs this world and it definitely is not the zionist jew,follower of the devil!

    4. Steven Says:

      What the fuck is happening? How can this be possible? Why is no one placing Dickhead under arrest for plotting to MURDER our boys? If you conspire to commit murder is that not illegal? 911 aside, this is conspiracy to commit murder and any one of us would be in fucking jail right now if we were recorded saying what the vice president said.

    5. Mister Jimmy Says:

      Israel governs the US (and other sucker countries as well.) It might be that the Mossad would just take things into their own hands, not even strain it through Little Dick Cheney or Condosleeza. How about a shrimp boat-borne ‘dirty bomb’ in Tampa one fine day (before January of 09?) Or a smallpox or anthrax bearing-and-distributing Israeli ‘volunteer’ in the New York subway system? Our phones are tapped, but no one bothers the Mossad or their CIA handmaidens. Israel wants their dirty work done, and soon.

    6. Phishybongwaters Says:

      2 birds with one stone. Israel gets its ‘enemy’ wiped off the face of the earth, AND kills thousands of gentiles in the process. Oh, don’t think for a second a single Israeli soldier will step foot on Iranian soil during the invasion, they’ll lend air support, artillery, that’s it. No Israeli will be put in harms way as long as there’s plenty of gentile cannon fodder.

      P.S. that gentile cannon fodder is us, our brothers, our sisters, our mothers and fathers, our sons. We will once again shed our blood so that Israel doesn’t have to.

      There WILL be a false flag event, but I’d expect it to be Israel. All signs in the 9/11 operation point to Israel. Whatever you believe about 9/11 know the government is TOO smart to leave that many loopholes, so it will be Israel that starts this one off.

    7. redoctoberbaby Says:

      M ARSHAD, I’m a “genuine” article baby, and trust me, the wool hasn’t been pulled over my eyes. I totally agree with you concerning the muslims. The worlds problems started in 1948.
      The blood will flow to the horse’s bridle the day America takes the plunge because “Israel” plays Russian roulette with all the bullets in the gun.

    8. ? Says:

      Cheney’s comments were art of a brainstorming session. If they were really thinking of doing something like that, you would not have heard about it.
      Why does Hersh look around the room during the interview, asking how many press are there? He is a neocon stooge. He always seems to have just the right story to make the Repubs look even worse. If I was Bush, I would pay some democrat journalist a buttload of money to print garbage on command. If you want to rule by fear, it helps to have people scared of you. Hersh is only helpinbg Bush rule by printing that crap.
      But don’t beleive me. Keep looking for the demolition squibs, and the computer generated airplanes. Suckers.

    9. ? Says:

      hey Barrack, you talk of sabotaging the system. Don’t you live in “the system?” I hope you have a good survival plan.

    10. LynUK Says:

      You don’t ‘brainstorm’ mass murder moron

    11. Tim Alexander Says:

      lol..i’d go to prison if i gave my opinion.

    12. HiFly Says:

      Who wouldnt oppose a Military Draft if Congress could be convinced it would keep the price of oil in dollars for just a few more years… Maybe the convincing could come via the huge oil profits that Exxon has posted and then returned back to the people by huge donations into Repubs and Dems advertising coffers for re-election, propaganda, and of course keeping the American Oil Industry strong in the world…

    13. neon Says:

      ?

      Results 1 – 10 of about 179,000 for man charged in conspiracy to commit murder. (0.25 seconds)

    14. Joe Says:

      For those in Congress that said “if we could just nuke Iran” lets do this. Gather those people together with Bush, Condi and especially Cheney (if you can find him) put them in the Nevada desert about 8 miles away from a 5 megaton hydroden bomb and set that sucker off. Let them all feel the blast wave and the heat, then let them comtemplate that going off on innocent people of Iran. Then realize someone in the world might retaliate against our cities in kind. Let all this sink in to the “deciders” soft skull and the hider(Cheney) and frightnight face Condi Rice.

    15. Arkansas Says:

      I used to be 100% against the draft, but now that I’m too old to be drafted, I say go for it. (Satire)

    16. Panama Says:

      Of course, the draft will return at a point.
      That was ALWAYS going to happen.
      The monsters that (want to) rule us can’t bear seeing all that manpower going to waste.
      They can’t put us ALL in camps or gulags, and humanity is viewed, by the NWO globalists, as “energy” … we are just a basic commodity to them.
      Since there are no more steel mills and industrial base left in this country (by design), they have to do SOMEthing with all this young manpower.
      They tried to make the military work and expand by sending the industrial base overseas, and giving the young men and women no other job-choice – if they weren’t “college material”.
      Didn’t work as much as they liked – .. ergo, thence comes the draft back. No more big bonuses for enlisting… just a forced impressment into Oliver’s Army.
      (c/f Elvis Costello song)

      Voila !

    17. CounterStrike Says:

      OK so I want to see all politicians family members drafted also. A draft won’t work nowadays anyway. Look at these kids they don’t even do what their parents tell them to do. You think they will obey the govt. LOL… Hey they send me a draft letter and I will piss on it and send it back.

      Hey but they can’t draft me because I am a vet 8 yrs service fulfilled contract and honorable discharge.

      I would like to see all these fat Americans go through boot camp so maybe they would lose some weight.

      LOL

    18. chris diminie Says:

      Oh yeah, nothing brings the people together in a polarized time like Conscription. I think the NWO is really trying to push us into doing something stupid.

    19. frak Says:

      I see a 7/7 style subway attack (what fatcat warmonger rides public transportation , anyway?) at rush hour, in DC and NY..It’s coming ,though, in some shape or form, the fash idiots (that includes you, Israel) need to maintain war momentum to control the media ball and steal the election, an Obama White House is too threatening , too capable of uncovering further damaging evidence through investigations. The Neo-Cons despise the truth, it would send them tailspinning into history’s trash bin. Wouldn’t put it past Cheney to go Roman Imperial, kill Bush in false flag, play the Nero violin while DC and NY burn in his new position of Emperor..

    20. Jason Berube Says:

      My two cents is this: no amount of jailtime is going to fix our crooked leaders. Death sentences… no, then we become our own worse enemy. What we do is get all these cheeky psycopaths together and force them to work in Iraqi children’s hospitals… for life. After the first few years of seeing the fruit of their labor, perhaps they will come around to seeing the error of their ways. Forgive, but never forget. Compassion is the key. Don’t waste another breath hating these twisted freaks. Pray for them to wake up to thier connection to the rest of the world. It’s happening already. No amount of power trip can stop it. We’re all born deserving of love and lovable. They just got knocked around too much along the way. Now they forgot how to play nice. Remember, violence begets violence. Praying for peace brings light into the world.

    21. Steven Says:

      @Jason; Praying for peace may bring light into the world however blunt force trauma to the head gets results. These motherfuckers need the shit beat out of them. They only understand violence so I say lets give them some. They are insane, violent, and unreasonable, and in control! How do you attempt to reason with people like that? You dont! I am praying for a few Generals and Admirals to assemble and plan a coup. To take these guys down we will need our military, without it we will not be able to count on the law to do a damn thing. They think that they have us by the balls because of the military and law enforcement however, if our military leaders and law enforcement leaders follow the oath they have taken, “TO PROTECT AND DEFEND AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FORIGN AND DOMESTIC” then we stand a good chance of stopping these bastards.

    22. Mark Says:

      Now that Astronauts Ed Mitchell and Gordon Cooper have confirmed that UFO’s are real, and also that the military has been covering it all up. Last week senior Nasa official, Clark McClelland, opened up a brand new can of beans!

      McClelland revealed on his website that he saw an 8 to 9 ft tall alien on his monitor that was in the shuttle cargo bay communicating to two astronauts. McClelland also said a UFO was locked in orbit with the shuttle while this event was taking place.

      This information confirms the astounding revelations of prophet Linda Newkirk regarding the extraordinary events of Revelation 12 that she has been going through, that are now about to come to a close.

      You can find the links at;

      http://www.hismailroom.com

    23. Dill Weed Says:

      Don’t forget to start preparing for boot camp with a daily workout regime. I recommend alternating between cardio days (running) and weight training. The two will get you a physique that will put you ahead of all the other sad sacks at boot camp. Also try getting up early and organising your day just to see how you handle routine.

    24. dc Says:

      @mark

      ed mitchell is a consultant to the X-files movie who only now is getting attention. viral marketing my friend.

      Clark McClellan wants money for his story and wants to sell his book.

      look deeper before you believe people who are claiming ET disclosure.

      (and for the record im not an alien nonbeliever)

    25. Howard Says:

      Mr. Paul,

      The suspense is killing us!!! Just round up 20,000 of those retired military folks who donated to your campaign, making sure at least 500 of them are USMC snipers, (arms and munitions shouldn’t be a problem) and then announce to the whole prison planet Earth what is going to take place and when. If Little Rock, San Diego, Phoenix, Dallas, Charleston or any other U.S. city(s) are going to reach 10,000 degrees Celsius, some of would just like to know how strong a sunblock we should use. Some may even place a few bets in Vegas while the odds are still good.

      And don’t worry about taking a bullet; I’m sure we can find a few who will take it for you.

    26. Steven Says:

      Yo Howard! Have fun in the FEMA Camps bud. Maybe you can be the pivot man in the circle jerk. If you think that this man would arbitrarily say the things that he is saying because he is nuts then you are truly the recalcitrant moron that the government wanted you to become. Congratulations. When your door is kicked in and your dumb ass is being dragged into a truck for a ride to the camps remember your smart ass remarks and cynicism.

    27. j Says:

      Has anyone wondered that this may be the reason why the FEMA camps were built in the first place – to house those who refuse the draft?

      You know, they’re bound to be used some day.

    28. gook4brayins Says:

      Death from above / Everybody Dies

      Why don’t you run 3rd party, Ron, if you’re so fearful of what’s to come.

    29. realitybase Says:

      Again, it’s all theater and fear mongering for now. In the meantime our freedoms just keep widdling away. “The Man” wants to keep you down but don’t fall for it.

      IMO I think they’re afraid of a draft just as they’re afraid to take the guns away. They keep pushing but will only go so far. Our greatest tool is to be wise to their tricks and call them on it.

      Stop the NWO!

    30. Scorpion081 Says:

      Time for “Draft card burning parties” everybody!

    31. Paul Kemp Says:

      If Bush/Cheney or McCain or even Obama does Israel’s bidding and attacks Iran, it’s going to be the downfall of the Neocons. Re-starting the Draft is going to radicalize what seems to be a largely apathetic generation.

      I’ve been amazed in recent conversations with 15-17 year olds how politically aware and antiwar they are. Right now, many probably feel “What can we do, Bush is totally out of control?”, but a draft will motivate them out of self-defense, as it did my generation.

    32. Neo Bagration Says:

      These maniacs do need more soldiers to play their little game of RISK, but it’s not going to happen.

      The fastest way to cause civil disobedience is to instill a draft. They want us to go die in their little wars of globalization for the banana republic, they can go fuck themselves. They want more blood sacrifice to their pagan god Jabhulon from their Anunaki pact, they can go fuck themselves. They should fight. These old, stupid ass white men who suck dicks in bathrooms stalls and molest their pages should go fight. They want to take over the Middle East and Africa, they can go do it themselves.

      I hope they do enact a draft. It will be the last in a long line of mistakes these fools will ever make.

    33. frak Says:

      Given that large chunks of Machine capital and power have thrown their weight behind Obama, and McCain would be the worst dotard puppet for the Warmachine ever, it’s safe to say the Rich are going to maintain their stranglehold on power, even if the rate of their World Domination Plan is marginally slowed by the facade of an Obama-led “new democracy”..Frankly, I’ll be totally amazed if we dodge another 9-11 and the Bushes and Cheneys are allowed to run to their nuclear roach hideouts (in Paraguay and Dubai, repectively)…until it’s time…

    34. Charles R. Curbo Says:

      I only wish there was something that could galvanize those aware of the Bush Cheney criminal decimation of our constitutional Republic, and their Luceriferian NWO cohorts. A draft would not do it, however, the 60’s are over. The NWO mf’s have had 40 more years of perfecting their brainwashing and dumbing down techniques, and the only thing that would galvanize the American sheople is for the NFL and Nascar to quit being televized or otherwise available and for the price of beer to go to $5.00 a can. The 4th Reich is rising, to paraphrase Jimm Marrs.

      Kid: “Say it ain’t so, Joe, say it ain’t so.”
      “Shoeless Joe” Jackson: “It’s so, kid, it’s so.”

    35. HiFly Says:

      Roundtable discussion:
      Cheney – “Since we dont actually have any Iranian terrorist, why dont we dress up some Saudis and see if they will help us stage another spectacular show for the gullible public…”
      Condi Rice – “Excuse me Dark Sith Lord Cheney don’t you think the empire might crumble if we fake another attack at this point?”
      Cheney – “Fine lets just kill some more Americans dressed up as Iranians since we can always photoshop anything we need and have the CIA just validate it as the next Hitler coming out of Iran..”
      Condi Rice – “You are so wise Dark Sith Lord, no one will ever know we sacrifice our own to get what we want. Hitler never had it is as good as you Cheney…”

    36. Steven Says:

      Dick-head has pissed off the wrong elite trained killing machines. I just spoke with and old friend. He was a SEAL Commander and what he said is this……. “that motherfucker just stepped on the wrong toes! If the SS thinks that “they” can protect him that is a laugh”! Apparently these guys take their oath seriously, unlike faggots like dick. As I was told, “no home, vehicle, dwelling is safe when you want us dead. We will come for you in the worst whether, at the most inopportune time, and kill everyone we find regardless of what they believe they are prepared for”! There is a reason these guys are loyal to one another and I can only hope that dick-head suffers and screams before he dies. Fuck any branch of government that wants to murder our boys for profit!

    37. The Smile on Your Face Says:

      Seems to me, one answer to the deep shit us slaves have found ourselves in is to at least inch our way into the Mainstream Media Brainwash Box while we can. We’re all headed to the FEMA camps anyway. Fuck it. I’m speakin out anyway-even if it means I’m first in line. Come on all you activists let’s get it together while we can!!! How much money do we need, Alex, to get OUR voice on the mainstream box?

    38. obadiah144 Says:

      I saw these men on the street talk about this over a year ago. they said that the national draft was going to be re-instated by this administration. they were conversing with a group called we are change.they also discuss the Illuminati/International banking families, the coming of Martial Law and the RFID Microchip(mark of the beast in revelation).here is the link for that video. I think it is very informative & I think you will too.

      YouTube – PT1 ISRAELITES TALK WITH “WE R CHANGE”
      PT1 ISRAELITES TALK WITH “WE R CHANGE” … This video has …
      10 min –
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QumURHw8Thc

    39. panamarick Says:

      Well said Mr. Kemp

    40. Zafada Says:

      Ah, can’t wait til worldwide war and destruction. Well we got about three years so let’s live it up while we can instead of trying to prevent the inevitable.

    41. ShenK Says:

      Perhaps you all forgot Blackwater and in my opinion the founder and leader of this organization does what Govt says for profit sake. If a draft occurs and many refuse you can pretty much see Blackwater in action, whether they are better trained than marines or not that’ll be for us to see if this really happens.

    42. adam Says:

      Why does zafada think we have 3 years???

      But, I like the attitude, “live it up, don’t fight it”

    43. Phishybongwaters Says:

      here’s a thought. The city of new york banned Geiger counters and chemical/biological detectors, and you need a special permit to own one.

      Why on earth would they do that? Is it, possibly, because someone might walk past the Israeli lobby with their geiger counter and start getting hits?

      Israel is very proud of their mini nukes, who knows. I’d expect a dirty bomb myself, as it will wipe out the people, but leave the infrastructure intact.

    44. Sean R. Filkins Says:

      Zafada says we have 3 years (actually a little more) until 2012 when the whole world has been predicted to either end or be thrown into total war and chaos…

      I don’t know if it’s true or not, but the direction our world is heading sure makes the 2012 idea VERY possible.

    45. Mark Says:

      Senior Nasa Official Clark McClelland who last week backed up the statements of astronaut Ed Mitchell regarding an military/alien alliance, has now updated his site this week with an artists rendering of what he saw during a classified shuttle mission. This is an explosive leak of classified information, and Clark definitely has the credentials to back his statements up!

      Be sure to check out the “incidents” link, as Clark has a lot of juicy revelations regarding many space missions!

      The link is here;

      http://www.hismailroom.com

    46. Gavin Veasey Says:

      Great.. and I am about to turn 18..

    47. Skip Mize Says:

      Nothing surprises me anymore in realtion to our own elected officials.
      They are all FOR SALE to the highest bidder!
      Things are getting more scary each and every day!

    48. Howard Says:

      Sten, you’ve commited more than a few sins with your vitriolic tongue, and you will be held accountable by God for all the careless words you say. You ought to repent now, this moment, as you do not know when you will be taken from this earth. I say this out of pure charity and nothing more.

      My comment was similar to a kid on Christmas morning waiting feverishly to open presents, and then being told to wait until after breakfast. I am fully aware that I will be dragged out to a camp. And are you implying that you would not be available to take a bullet for Ron Paul so that he can live one more day? Do you not espouse the Christian maxim of “giving one’s life for a friend?” Or that the good military should defend us from the bad?Do you WANT TO BE INCINERATED WITHOUT HAVING A CHANCE TO MAKE YOUR PEACE WITH GOD THE FATHER, GOD THE SON AND GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT?

      Now if you’re not a patriot, or at the very least a Ron Paul advocate, then I can only assume that you would be the one wearing the jackboots and going door to door. I can only assume you might be a communist, a fascist (which is just an unperfected communist) a freemason, a zionist or perhaps all of the above, and you are getting by by the same said forces of evil.

      If I am wrong, I wholeheartedly apologize. But it is truly amazing and intriguing how you can so misunderstand such a light and simple jab to get Mr. Paul to go on the record with what he seems to know. I live close to Little Rock and I would truly like to be far enough away and up wind from the blast area.

    49. manbearpig Says:

      The good news:

      A bunch of loser truthers will get jobs and they’ll be forced to participate in the defense of their own life and liberties when they clearly choose not to of their own accord (lazy? coward?). No more relying on others to defend your life and liberties. Oh how you hate to have to defend your own life and liberties and no be able to have other people do it for you.

    50. manbeardip Says:

      The bad news:

      It will be an unjust, false war, and you, like a lemming to the sea, will be 100% for it.

    51. manbearpig-killer Says:

      Hey BearManPigJerk, would never kill for Cheney but would take care of you and any other class of people just like you. F yourself!

    52. wozza xing Says:

      I listened to the entire interview and while I think there a lot of hear-say hype and speculation is flying around, esp in the MM, there are some VERY real factual informations. You’ve definatley opened my ears to this infowar. Thank you both.

    53. ? Says:

      Draft is coming, and those who protest are going to the
      FEMA camps visible on youtube with the barb wire leaning in.

      The war with iran could be started by the US or Israel,
      or iran for that matter.

      I think all sides want the war for the money to be made.

      Price of oil will skyrocket and they LOVE that.

      Watch 911 press for truth on google video, got to PBS
      website and watch the frontline doumentary
      “The man who knew” about John P. O’neil formerly of the FBI.

      If your not a christian watch Zeitgiest.

      It’s all pretty well laid out with good evidence from
      engineers, that Bldg 7 was not even hit by a plane and
      the owner of the Bldg had it “pulled” was his words.

      Also on google video only for the non-religious minded
      watch “Empire of The City – The Ring of Power”

      My bug out bag is packed, I am not protesting or lifting
      a finger. They wrote their plans in stone a long time
      ago and practice mock human sacrifice in the Bohemian Grove.

      Chk Wikipedia for bohemian grove, and The Georgia Guidestones.

      Good Luck to all !

    54. Beamer Says:

      Zeitgeist, that movie, is very informative in some aspects, the first part of the movie is quite unfactual, I freely admit Jesus’ birthday is not on the 25th of December, but anywho none of it disproves His existence, and the myths of Horus and Mithra bear little similarity to Christ (that is until after He came about) (Be happy if you can disprove that statement) Somewhat rambling here. Zeitgeist tuned me in to the possibility of RFID some odd being possibly mark of the beast (gov’t I believe), although somark is more likely. Check Revelation 13 i think it is, towards the end, forced upon the people, required for buying and selling, and received on the right hand or forehead, are a few characteristics, I dunno, perhaps a great deal of Revelation is set to come through. Time will prove this. Ramble ramble. Hmmm, what’s a good website ’bout this stuff. Off topicness but archaeology confirming the OT of the bible a good bit, http://www.crossroad.to/articl.....eology.htm cheggit. On topic, ummmmmmmmmmm thank God for Ron Paul!

    55. cindy Says:

      Just wait till you UNDERSTAND THE CONNETION BETWEEN ISREAL, THE U.S. AND THE VATICAN! Then it all makes sense! The vatican is afraid Russia will STOP THE NWO!!
      LOOK CLOSELY YOU WILL SEE!!

    56. Alienation Says:

      “They’re capable of doing anything,” said Paul…

      “It is still totally bewildering to me when I see men and women in the Congress that I KNOW AND LIKE doing this just to get along. Most of them will say “I agree with you on ALL YOU SAY but the Iranians are bad people and they might attack us some day… I hear members of Congress saying ‘IF WE COULD ONLY NUKE them’,” said Paul.

      [emphasis added]

      Ok Mr. Paul…you just admitted that the evil ones to which you and your precious Congress have the capability in your hands to limit are capable of anything. Yet you also say that these close and personal friends/acquaintances/comrades of yours in Congress (why else would you like them?) just turn their cheeks to get along. Then, you not only say these f**kers you adore so much agree with you completely, but you also assert that these people wish to just nuke another country into glass.

      I have a question for you Mr. Paul: When in the hell do you think the American people will take their heads out of their asses long enough to kick you and all your other hypocritical, do-nothing for anyone except yourselves, f**king devil worshipers out of our government? I’d expect your answer to be, “never gonna happen” and I’d wager you’d be correct.

    57. Alienation Says:

      Cindy:

      Perhaps you took a bit too much of your own medicine? This is the third time I’ve read your simplistic contribution to the PP comments sections of these articles and so if it makes you feel any better, YOUR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED and appreciated…

      Now dear, go surf again and (please) spend less time on researching the single subject of the Israeli/Vatican/US connection because this has obviously severely limited your ability to communicate its effects effectively. The next time you visit you might be able to contribute more than just “LOOK CLOSELY YOU WILL SEE!!”


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