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Roubini Says Rogers’s Forecast of $2,000 Gold ‘Utter Nonsense’
Asjylyn Loder
Bloomberg News
Wednesday, November 4, 2009
Nov. 4 (Bloomberg) — Nouriel Roubini, the economist who predicted the global economic crisis, said a forecast by investor Jim Rogers that gold will double to at least $2,000 an ounce is “utter nonsense.”
There is no inflation or “near-depression” to drive gold prices that high, Roubini said today at the Inside Commodities Conference in New York. If a severe depression came to pass, with investors buying canned goods and hiding out in log cabins, “maybe you want some gold in that scenario,” Roubini said.
“Maybe it will reach $1,100 or so but $1,500 or $2,000 is nonsense,” Roubini said. Gold rose to a record $1,096.20 today on the New York Mercantile Exchange’s Comex division on speculation that central banks and investors will purchase the metal to hedge against a declining dollar.
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Rogers, who predicted the start of the commodities rally in 1999, said in an interview on Bloomberg Television today that Roubini is wrong about the threat of bubbles in gold and emerging-markets stocks. The price of gold will double in the next decade, he said.
In his New York speech, Roubini repeated his assertion that asset prices have risen “too much, too soon, too fast.” He’s a New York University professor and chairman of New York research and advisory firm Roubini Global Economics.
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November 4th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Mr Roubini needs to get out and rub shoulders with the common folk a little more. Ivory towers may be skewing his sense of reality. People ARE buying canned food, America IS in a depression (try vacationing in Detroit), and inflation is inevitable (the treasury is running their printing presses 24/7). For a “New York University professor” to make the statements he has made he is either a propagandist or a fool.
Other Mr. T Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Chairman Obama decrees: Confiscate all gold. Shoot those who don’t give it up.
william b travis Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 1:38 am
how many hedge funds has rubini started
rogers started one that returned 3700%
i ll listen to rogers first
November 4th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
I bet if you were to look under Roubini’s bed you won’t find much cash.
Cash is ‘TRASH’ as the man (Kiyosaki) said.
Wez the Aussie Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Yes, I agree. I bet there is silver and gold bullion.
November 4th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
I’d trust Rogers over Roubini anyday. Roubini did call the economic crises, but was very late in doing so compared to others. But then again I’m holding a shit load of bullion so I may be biased.
Other Mr. T Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Hope you didn’t buy it at over $1000.
November 4th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Look who pays Roubini! Rogers is also at it. THey are playing games with us! Its a illusion!
November 4th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Gold has risen from $20/oz to about $1100/oz. Is he really saying it will NEVER hit $2000?
Don Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
$20 an ounce? When? 1850?
November 4th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Remember… Roubini is a member of the CFR. So who you going to believe? An economist on the CFR payroll spreading lies, or a successful billionaire libertarian investor?
Roubini also said last March that the Dow Jones would continue it’s decline to 5000 or less, and that gold would be $500 an ounce. Now Dow is back to 10,000 and gold is almost at 1100.
He also said back in Feb/Mar that the banks were insolvent, they would go bust, and that they would have to be nationalized which caused many people to continue to short the bank stocks. Then almost overnight bank stocks suddenly shot through the rough and increased 400%. If you shorted them using SKF or FAZ with 2 or 3 times leverage you would have been wiped out. That’s how they game works. They use guys like Roubini to convince you to do the opposite of what they are doing so they can take your money.
Don’t listen to him. He’s a liar. Trust the guys with the track record to back it up like Jim Rogers.
From Japan Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 10:37 am
I think this is accurate.
Financial markets worldwide are all being abused by the monopolistic investors today. Manipulation of market is always going on. It is a wag-the-dog problem. Even a “Doctor Doom” may be no more than a pawn.
By the way, the developed countries have to do something about the current fraud-style derivatives market. It should be banned. If we do not ban it now, it will destroy the free market economy itself instead.
November 4th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Roubini is right.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
What is Roubini talking about? It’s alreayd at 1100. When did he make that comment? I hoep it was 5 years ago.
I have a hard time beleiveing it’s not going to go higher with the demand in some of the other emerging markets around the US, and people trying to diversify around their USD.
I have to side more with Rogers on this one.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
the american dollar is a ‘DEAD MAN WALKING’ a sad time for all of us!!!
you all should listen to http://www.watchmanscry.com/audio.html audio file 140 & 141 P.S. it’s all going to come true very soon!!!
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November 4th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
roubini says. “maybe gold will reach 1,100″……its practically there now.
My Proofreader Died Of Swine Flu Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
I guess he was too busy writing his speech to check gold prices
whitewash Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 8:40 am
I agree with roubini it is utter nonsense that gold will go to $2,000: IT’S GOING TO GO TO $6,000 ROUBINI YOU JACKASS!!!!!
November 4th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
you give me your gold then Roubini, if you dont want it
November 4th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Translation: gold will be going over $2000 an ounce.
November 4th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
I bet this dodo has at least $ 100,000 stashed in gold….
November 4th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
do logic…how many dollars do you have invested in gold? Tell the truth now…lol
Do Logic Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Wrong question. Really you want a percentage of overall investments in order to understand a commitment. Also, if I buy gold with silver, the trade is denominated with dollars, but I did not invest dollars, I invested returns that will be denominated in dollars. I doubt you understand what I am saying, but try to get it right, will ya.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:31 am
LOGIC— I UNDERSTAND ONE THING…YOU ARE A BUFFOON…
November 5th, 2009 at 5:27 am
The IMF just sold 200 tonne of gold to India. Now when European banks have sold gold in the past, it has caused gold prices to drop. I really thought this sell would cause a drop…but nothing. I do not want to get into gold because I dont trust the big traders….MSM is highlighting gold as the “way to go”…I cannot help but think its being set up for a loss….should have bought in 3 years ago when it was around $500, but even then I didnt trust the price.
Do Logic Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 9:17 am
I can guarantee you most people never heard of AIG until about January of 2007, whuch is when they started to advertise on CNBC. When they are hawking gold from every corner, and even the cabbie, waitress, and some guy named lower case “m” mike are talking about gold, it’s time to move on. Don’t forget the transaction fee. As you may know, you are going to pay 20% to 30% over the spot price, so if you buy now it will need to go over $1,300.00 US before you start making any money. Finally, Rogers said “in the next decade”. Be still my beating heart.
November 5th, 2009 at 7:00 am
The profs that teach false curriculum’s eventually begin to believe them.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Gold 101:
About $3600/oz is the maximum possible gold price. It used to be $36/oz long before Nixon came along and the dollar was worth less than 100 cents, assuming the gold was still in fort knoxx that was given to the private bank, the federal reserve, was still there. As the dollar value goes down, gold goes up. The dollar is 1/30th of what it was around 1970. For the dollar to be 1/100 or 1 penny, then roughly triple the $1000 to get $3000. It’s not too late to convert to gold. You have been warned again!
Those who bought gold at $36/oz will see a almost 1000% profit if cashed in @$3000/oz. When the gold price doubles, the dollar only buys 1/2 as much, thus: The dollar value is based on the gold that should be there to back it up, but it is NOT there, which technically, makes the dollar worth absolutely nothing.
2×36=$72 Au/oz – dollar became 50 cents
2×72=144 – dollar became 25 cents
2×144=288 – dollar became 13 1/2 cents
2×288=576 – dollar became 6 3/4 cents
2×576=1152 – dollar is worth 3 3/8 cents
2×1152=$2304 – dollar is worth 1 3/4 cents
$3600 is when the dollar approaches ZERO.
Somewhere between 2300 and 3000 the dollar is worth less than 1 penny’s worth of gold.
$100,000 gold investment in 1971 is worth 2.4 million today.
Whoever says gold will not go up is uninformed or misinforming to stop the gold stampede, which also makes the gold price go up.
Do Logic Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 11:59 am
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November 5th, 2009 at 11:54 am
So, you can expect the dollar to topple sometime before the $3000+ limit is reached. This all because of the bankers manipulation of gold prices. The Amero will be based on the $3000+/oz scenario. The bankers with the help of their money machine over at the federal reserve have done this to us.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
DO LOGIC..ANOTHER LAUGHING HYENA…WITH ABSOLUTELY NO COMMON SENSE…TYPICAL AMERIKAN..
Do Logic Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Maybe it is the kind of common sense that did not enable you to realize the purchase of gold by India represents less than 1/2 of 1 percent of India’s GDP? Is it the kind of common sense that did not inform you that 70% of all gold ever mined is not held as a reserve by any institution but is used for some other purpose?
Do Logic Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Is your kind of common sense the kind that didn’t inform you that the gold bubble will burst as soon as interest rates come up?
November 5th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Common sense? What, like the common sense that I keep hearing about gold being the only “real” money, or the common sense that tells me that commodity prices have been stagnant or falling for a very very long time? Have you even bothered to learn anything at all about money supply? Tell me, what is it about, this common sense you claim to have that others do not have?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
So you may believe one guy or you may believe the other – I say who cares what they have to say, just trust your eyes and look at this chart:
http://inflationdata.com/infla.....lation.gif
Its an inflation adjusted gold chart, updated just last month. The average price of gold over time is $672, and if you eliminate the weirdness of the 80s spike period, previous to that the average was consistently somewhere between $400 and $500. Either way, we are way off the average now, so you are technically paying a huge fear premium. Will that fear component grow worse, driving gold up more? Maybe, but over time you will likely lose from this point. Also consider the additional ding you will get from the hefty premiums people are charging.
Do Logic Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Pretty close. I say the whole thing is a scam. By that I mean the entire economy. The world has more of everything than ever before at a lower cost than ever before. All prices should fall at some point, as soon as the price control structures become unsustainable. The Matrix is real and it’s a rip off. All of this is done to keep the powers that be on top because when the price control structures break, the first organization that can create news ones will run the new show.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Over many years we have all been lied to by our Governments, but not just our Governments but many religous leaders. Many things we have been taught are not even in Scripture and millions have swallowed so many lies by these false prophets. If you are a truth seeker please visit the following web site and take the time to read some of the articles, you will be shocked.
http://www.2besaved.com
Blessings
Ben
Do Logic Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
You need to get out more often, perhaps get married and practice something other than self love. For any thing that has been taught you can find a religious or civic leader that has held said position. Someone will always be shocked.
November 5th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
I’m just glad these cock-offs are not in gold so I can acquire more at lower relative prices while I can. Putting your savings in gold and silver is patriotic — trying to make folks here believe that gold is overpriced is about the same odds as the losers saying it will be able to find their asses with both hands…
Do Logic Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
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November 5th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
I guess we will find out what happens. So…
Place your bets ladies and gentlemen for the show is about to begin.
I’m betting hyper-inflation so get it now while you can even get it.
Do Logic Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
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November 6th, 2009 at 1:21 am
A typical amerikkkan hyena above…he laughs while the ignorant & arrogant ameri kkk an sheeple are heading over the cliff..and into oblivion..
Do Logic Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:24 am
mike with a lower case “m” would have us believe that gold is the swine flu vaccine of all that ails ya! Just take one and you’ll be free of the inflation flu, the jew flu, the gummit flu! All that ails ya!
November 6th, 2009 at 1:23 am
Speaking of the ameriiKan money supply—will the dollar soon compete with CHARMIN TO WIPE YOUR ASS?
Do Logic Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:40 am
Is that your best argument, that “k” added to American and a roll of paper? Hell, in Russia, they didn’t use the Ruble for paper when the currency collapsed, they used news paper. Things change, try to keep up will ya! Fact; the russian economy has collapsed THREE TIMES in the last 20 years, primarily because they rely on COMMODITIES EXPORTS for the economic base, a notoriously bad idea.
You really should read a book or something, you never know you just may learn a little bit. You will obviously be better off than you are now.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:23 am
charmin will prolly file for bankruptcy..
November 6th, 2009 at 1:39 am
do logic…another guuvment shill..trying to divert your attention..from the real problem…PRINTING TOO MUCH PAPER ‘WITH’ NUTIN TO BACK IT,,BUT THE VERY DIRTY DAMNABLE LIES FROM THE District of Criminality..GOOGLE’WEIMAR REPUBLIC..GET EDUCATED..
Do Logic Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:43 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1.....ial_crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2.....ial_crisis
http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/wa.....llapse.htm
Do Logic Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:46 am
Almost forgot:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_ruble
search for the word “collapse”.
November 6th, 2009 at 4:19 am
So now we can equate the ameri K an dollar with the ruble..? I told you the dollar was worthless..thank you Do Logic for the added proof!
Do Logic Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Is that all you’ve got? Again with the “k” in America and a joke that rely on pretending that what
I wrote was about the Ruble instead of the economy. Any sandwich is smarter than you. I
understand that making jokes is a defense mechanism to avoid admitting you have lost or been hurt somehow, but I doubt that is what has happened here. My guess is that you are heavily invested in gold or perhaps you really hate Americans (you’ve implied as much several times). Perhaps it is both that you hate Americans and are also heavily invested in gold. By the way, what makes you think I am a “typical”American? You didn’t ask. You just stated that I was a “Typical” American. Do you hate Americans or “typical” persons?
Well, whatever. Clearly you haven’t a clue as to economics and haven’t bothered to actually read anything at all about the pitfalls of commodities as currencies.