Scientists urge caution on global warming

Erika Lovley
Politico
Wednesday, Nov 26, 2008

Climate change skeptics on Capitol Hill are quietly watching a growing accumulation of global cooling science and other findings that could signal that the science behind global warming may still be too shaky to warrant cap-and-trade legislation.

While the new Obama administration promises aggressive, forward-thinking environmental policies, Weather Channel co-founder Joseph D’Aleo and other scientists are organizing lobbying efforts to take aim at the cap-and-trade bill that Democrats plan to unveil in January.

So far, members of Congress have not been keen to publicly back the global cooling theory. But both senators from Oklahoma, Republicans Tom Coburn and Jim Inhofe, have often expressed doubts about how much of a role man-made emissions play.

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“We want the debate to be about science, not fear and hypocrisy. We hope next year’s wave of new politics means a return to science,” said Coburn aide John Hart. “It’s the old kind of politics that doesn’t consider any dissenting opinions.”

The global cooling lobby’s challenge is enormous. Next year could be the unfriendliest yet for climate skeptics. Already, House Energy and Commerce Chairman John Dingell (D-Mich.) has lost his gavel, in part because his peers felt he was less than serious about tackling global warming.

The National Academy of Sciences and most major scientific bodies agree that global warming is caused by man-made carbon emissions. But a small, growing number of scientists, including D’Aleo, are questioning how quickly the warming is happening and whether humans are actually the leading cause.

Armed with statistics from the Goddard Institute for Space Studies and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s National Climate Data Center, D’Aleo reported in the 2009 Old Farmer’s Almanac that the U.S. annual mean temperature has fluctuated for decades and has only risen 0.21 degrees since 1930 — which he says is caused by fluctuating solar activity levels and ocean temperatures, not carbon emissions.

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8 Responses to “Scientists urge caution on global warming”

Richard B Durland Says:
November 26th, 2008 at 9:24 am
Two million years ago Volcanos in Panama shut off the flow of sea water from the Pacific into the Atlantic Ocean. That started the Ice ages. Nothing has changed since then so the next big freaze is on the way. It makes no difference how much Carbon we burn or do not burn. Mother nature is not paying any attention to us.
RBD
Falco Says:
November 26th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Richard B Durland Re:

“Two million years ago Volcanos in Panama shut off the flow of sea water from the Pacific into the Atlantic Ocean. That started the Ice ages.”

Says who? According to the textbooks I have read, the last ice age started nearer to three million years ago.

“It makes no difference how much Carbon we burn or do not burn.”

FACT, The sun like all main sequence stars is getting hotter as it ages, back in prehistoric times the Earth has usually been much warmer than it is now, the reason being that more greenhouse gases were present in the atmosphere then. The greenhouse effect is NOT irrelevant, the Permian extinction was caused by a runaway greenhouse effect.
beauga Says:
November 26th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
hey the clueless blonde!

you know!!
manbearpig Says:
November 27th, 2008 at 2:57 am
Here are some interesting questions made by two readers at the WattsUpWithThat website:

Why have temperatures been cooling since 2003?

What proof do you have that CO2 forcing is greater than water vapors?

Prove to scientists that CO2 stays in the lower and upper tropospheres more
than a year?

Why do all the temperature charts over the past ten years record a cyclical
pattern for temperatures?

Why do multidecadal cycles in the oceans correlate extremely well with the
solar cycles and global temperatures?

Is Ocean Heat Content increasing?

Are sea surface temperatures increasing?

Is sea level rising?

Is there any case in the geologic record when a spike in C02 has come before a spike in temperature?

Are we in the midst of a solar minimum that many of our best scientists anticipate being similar to the Dalton Minimum or even the Maunder Minimum?

Can solar minima be seen to have affected climate in the past?

Also some interesting quotes – from the other side of the “debate”:

* Jacques-Yves Cousteau, environmentalist and documentary maker: “It’s terrible to have to say this. World population must be stabilized, and to do that we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. This is so horrible to contemplate that we shouldn’t even say it. But the general situation in which we are involved is lamentable.”

* John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal: “I suspect that eradicating smallpox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems.”

* Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University population biologist: “We’re at 6 billion people on the Earth, and that’s roughly three times what the planet should have. About 2 billion is optimal.”

* David Foreman, founder of Earth First!: “Phasing out the human race will solve every problem on earth, social and environmental.”

* David M. Graber, research biologist for the National Park Service: “It is cosmically unlikely that the developed world will choose to end its orgy of fossil-energy consumption, and the Third World its suicidal consumption of landscape. Until such time as Homo sapiens should decide to rejoin nature, some of us can only hope for the right virus to come along.”

* Alexander King, founder of the Malthusian Club of Rome: “My own doubts came when DDT was introduced. In Guyana, within two years, it had almost eliminated malaria. So my chief quarrel with DDT, in hindsight, is that it has greatly added to the population problem.”

* Merton Lambert, former spokesman for the Rockefeller Foundation: “The world has a cancer, and that cancer is man.”

* John Muir, founder of the Sierra Club: “Honorable representatives of the great saurians of older creation, may you long enjoy your lilies and rushes, and be blessed now and then with a mouthful of terror-stricken man by way of a dainty!”

* Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh, leader of the World Wildlife Fund: “If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”

* Maurice Strong, U.N. environmental leader: “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”

* Ted Turner, CNN founder, UN supporter, and environmentalist: “A total population of 250–300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”

* Paul Watson, a founder of Greenpeace: “I got the impression that instead of going out to shoot birds, I should go out and shoot the kids who shoot birds.”

The preceding list of quotes is from The Mosquito: Environmentalism’s Weapon of Mass Destruction.
skeptic Says:
November 27th, 2008 at 11:31 am
anyone have experience with the home solar/wind systems advertised on this sight?
Wayne Says:
November 27th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
@the clueless blonde

I prey you’re being ironic? The world is heading towards a total tsunami of real problems, financial, political, resource depletion, biosphere collapse and you are worried about nibiru, cern, haarp and chemtrails? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me you’re joking….
Atilla Says:
November 30th, 2008 at 2:35 am
“Climate change skeptics on Capitol Hill are quietly watching a growing accumulation of global cooling science and other findings that could signal that the science behind global warming may still be too shaky to warrant cap-and-trade legislation.”

In other words, it’s all bullshit.
ng Says:
November 30th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Brown shirts or Green shirts,
all the same extremists