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Wednesday, November 18, 2009
FLASHBACK: UK Government To Install Surveillance Cameras In Private Homes
CCTV cameras are being fitted inside family homes by council ’snoopers’ to spy on neighbours in the street outside, it was revealed today.
The £1,000 security cameras have been placed inside properties but are trained on the streets to gather evidence of anti-social behaviour.
Each device is linked to a laptop computer and accessible online by police and council officials 24 hours a day.
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But the trial inside two homes by Croydon council in south London has sparked new fears about invasion of privacy and Britain’s ‘surveillance society’.
And critics said the extra surveillance was only needed because police had failed to tackle the problem.
A council spokesman said the cameras would allow the authorities to respond quickly to anti-social behaviour and gather evidence for criminal prosecutions.
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November 18th, 2009 at 10:36 am
If I go to hell when I die, I think it will be just like this world.
Pat Reply:
November 18th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
i think hell would be better
yes sir Reply:
November 18th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Atleast everyone knows there in hell.
2pac lyrics Reply:
November 19th, 2009 at 1:25 am
“my only fear of death is reincarnation”
Quantummonkeybutt Reply:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:44 am
is that original, or do you have a reference???
it’s a good quote…
QMB
spunky
You think This is Hell? Reply:
November 19th, 2009 at 6:41 am
HELL IS A MUCH MORE HORRIBLE PLACE THAN THIS AS DESCRIBED BY DANTE.
HELL IS THE ABSENCE OF ALL HOPE.
WE STILL HAVE HOPE. FREEDOM IS OUR HOPE AND EVEN WHEN WE ARE IN THE
CONCENTRATION CAMPS, WE WILL STILL HAVE HOPE.
THIS A BATTLE FOR SOULS. SATANS FINAL PUSH TO FILL HIS SHIP BEFOR HE TAKES
IT TO THE BOTTOM.
Read this and smile Reply:
November 19th, 2009 at 11:14 am
There is beauty everywhere if you care to look, and it is nature at work. You see the flowers and trees, animals and birds in the Oneness of the physical forming energy of your Creator. You peer into your seas and lift your head up to the skies, and all moves in wondrous harmony and fulfils your needs. Yet it is Man who has upset the fine balance between it all, and for eons of time has plundered the Earth to feed his insatiable greed. The Earth does not have unlimited resources, and it is only in recent times that you have understood the necessity to preserve what you have already. There was ample to meet your daily needs, until your resources were seen as a means of bringing wealth to those who could market them. Now you find that overuse has led to serious shortages, and the balance of your planet is being put at risk. There are attempts to bring about rescue plans, but your big industrial giants prefer to put profit before yours and the planets wellbeing.
Why do we mention these things now Dear Ones, it is because although there is some grasp the importance of taking action now, finding agreement between the different countries is extremely difficult. How you treat your Earth is an indication of how far you have progressed spiritually, and is also a measure of how you treat each other. Until you accept that you are reliant on each other, and that you are the guardians of the Earth and all its life forms, there will continue to be disharmony between you all. However, caring and sharing is something that will return, as you advance towards the end of this cycle, and it will happen quite quickly. It will come with the recognition that unless you do so, you cannot overcome the inequality that now exists. You are one family on Earth working towards the recognition of your soul purpose, and realizing that you are all reliant on each other for your success.
You are becoming enlightened as to what you need to do to help Humanity through the process of Ascension. Because of it you now understand that recognizing the divinity of all life is extremely important, if you are to open your consciousness to the truth. You are not rising up in isolation, as the new energies are lifting up the whole solar system.
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November 18th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
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Adam Reply:
November 18th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
I think this world is worse than hell could ever be. In hell nobody gets burned because fire cannot harm spirit people so its not a problem, and it’s a fictional place but here everyones out for themselves or to harm you or give you a hard time. You get good people occasionaly who want to help, but most people are out to harm you in my experience. This planet is the worst hell I could ever imagine, just awfull. Everyone I know is either sick, disabled or angry or has problems of one description or another. Life’s problems are just endless, the cost of living is too high, genocidal maniacs run the planet ect. I think that is why we have been put into physical bodies so we can suffer.
Responder. Reply:
November 18th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Jordan Maxwell told the story of how he got into a lot of trouble as a child for telling the Priest that he was not afraid of hell because “fire can not harm a spirit”. That was a spark of the questioning persona & inquiring intellect which launched him on a mission which unraveled similar mythologies & accounts.
hot rod Reply:
November 19th, 2009 at 3:51 am
everyone says hell is down there . the same place that gives us life,water ,plants ,air,animals, minerals and so on , our government seems to like going deep in there too and we even go there when we die . its like a closet full of x-mas presents ;dont go in there the boogie man will get you….
Raymond Swartz Reply:
November 18th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Are you kidding me? Hell is real and has no return. This world is so far from hell. You can still buy ice cream. Jesus is Lord. He didn’t want any of this for anyone. In Ezekiel God said that he takes no pleasure in anyone dying. Do any of you pray? Read your bible? Read other texts that are ancient or non canonized. They all have truth. I read the Satanic bible, Egyptian text, Babylonian text and even Cat in the Hat.
Why is it we pay for a video game, spend endless hours on it, but guess what? NO ONE CARES!!!
Yet, when it comes to the spritual, we say well my opinion is… STUDY!!!
We allow people to tell us what to think when it comes to Spiritual.
And, of course there are cameras in your neighbors house. Its only going to get worse.
We have had thousands of Tyrannical men and if we knock out this one. There will be thousands to take his place. Ask, seek, knock and you will find. This spiral has to end somewhere and that is The Lord.
If you don’t want Love, I have no problem with you staying here and I’ll leave. Okay, i was wrong, it hurts knowing that some will not make it.
Responder. Reply:
November 18th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Water everywhere but not a drop to drink.
Tom Reply:
November 18th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
ISAIAH 60:1,2,,,, ACTS 27:14, THEN LOOK BACK AT ACTS 27:10 I HAVE SPOKEN IF U WOULD LIKE TO TALK, HERE IAM,,,,,,,, LOOK WITH YOUR SPIRITUAL EYES, THAT CAN SEE, HEAR WITH YOUR SPIRITUAL HEART,TO ALL HE SAYS WHEN U HEAR THE VOICE OF THE LORD DONT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS, HE TALKS 2 YOUR HEARTS, DONT FLEE THE LIGHT, JOHN 6:63,,,JOHN 4:24…….. He has sent a powerfull delusion, HERE NOW,,,,, they live in there urphroia, self made,,, going to and fro, say peace peace, trying to find luv, when it is right in frount of them… REVELATION,. 22: 19;this not only means the butt heads that type it in print WRONG, BUT ALL THOSE WHO WALK IT, MAN IS MAN… WOMEN IS WOMEN…ALL MEN HE CALLS KINGS,,, HE CALLS ALL MEN A KING, HE IS THE KING OF KINGS, AND THE LIL LADY (who was) IS MY QUEEN, OR WAS, SHE JUST DEVORCED A MAN OF GOD,..UNBELIVEABLE OF THE DARKNESS WE ALL R IN, EVEN ME, I’M STILL FLESH, THE ENEAMY WILL COME FROM WITH IN OUR OWN GATES,, I MADE MY BED I THOUGHT I KNEW WHAT I DID,,, BUT ALL THESE THINGS MUST,,,MUST COME TO PASS,,, HELL IS REAL….. NO EYE HAS SEEN, NO MIND CAN IMAGINE, NOR CAME INTO THE HEARTS OF MAN, THE KINGDOM OF GOD,..THAT MEANS HELL AS WELL, HELL IS REAL,THERE IS A CHAIN OF COMMAND IN HEAVEN, WE HAVE ONE HERE, we vote them in, AND THERE IS A DEEPER DARKER HELL FOR SOME EVEN, I AM RECKONIZED BY THE CORPS, MY STATE, AND ANOTHER STATE AND A MUSEM, AND MORE THAN JUST THOSE, HOLD ON,SOMIN IS GONNA GIVE,,, AND SOON,,RE READ ACTS 27;14.. I CAN SEE IT IN THE DISTANCE, .. GO IN PEACE, GIVE GOD THE GLORY, LUV GOD WITH ALL U ARE, AND YOUR NEIGHBOR, IT’S THAT SIMPLE. AND DO YOUR SEFLS A FAV, GO AND GET A “KJV” NO OTHER, IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR OUR FATHER’S, IT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME. . . (sorry about typeos)
November 18th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Why are you British putting up with this?………WHY?……..every week, and I mean every week, there seems to be a new Draconian NWO law, procedure, or policy being invented in your country and none of you do anything about it!!!………you just let it happen!!!!
God, you’re just sheep!!!………Line up for your slaughter, take your soft kill H1N1 vaccine, let the police and Home Office come into your homes and beat you to a bloody pulp…………because none of you British are even bothering to try and make an issue of it.
Your turning your heads away and crawling into a corner saying to yourselves, “Well, I guess that’s that.”
Sad…..really really sad what has become of England.
will Reply:
November 18th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Prozac is a cure for revolution and resistance.
OnceASoldier Reply:
November 18th, 2009 at 11:26 am
The same thing that is happening here in the US – only they’re a little further on down the path….
Mack Reply:
November 18th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Sheep? Its happening right here and the masses arent doing anything about it. Those folks arent any different than us. SAD!
Hack Reply:
November 18th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
It’s their training. From youth they are told to love the queen and she will protect them. They are created as followers from a young age. In America we are taught to love freedom and to protect ourselves. That is why we are less likely to follow, yet somehow about half of us are retarded followers thanks to the toxins that are introduced for control.
wiggins Reply:
November 18th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Really? I’d like to put your theory to the test.
For your information the British public couldn’t give a flying f--- about the Queen or any of the Royals, Soldiers fight for their comrades not Queen and Country , that’s an old myth. If we became a Republic tomorrow you wouldn’t notice the loss of the Royals.
Admittedly our freedoms have been eroding for a considerable time longer than yours, which started after 9/11 and the introduction of the Patriot (sic) Act.
You’ve got the advantage of being ‘tooled up’, unfortunately a nail file is an offensive weapon in Britain….c’est la vie.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Is this hell? Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 10:36 am
If I go to hell when I die, I think it will be just like this world.
Satan and his kids like allah obama do run this world, so it can seem like HELL. But bro, HELL will be worse! Turn to JESUS and you won’t have to stay here.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:35 am
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November 18th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Absolutely disgraceful. Hang your heads in shame Croydon Council. I hereby accuse you of contributing to the death of my country, a crime of treason.
November 18th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
michael…. not meaning to stir things up but every time i see this post and others like it, well it just burns me so. i hope this won’t be deleted….. you all still think so well of good old yoti…. don’t you realize what happened? he ripped off hundreds of people… he was a con-artist and thief, he took their money and never delivered the goods…. he had several good friends that tried to preserve his good name and keep him out of prison for such charges as mail fraud, grand theft etc… these people put out their own money and had dies, molds etc made and delivered to many of you that good old yoti burned. i for one hope he’s not shooting and enjoying his ill gotten gains… had his friends not stepped in he was well on his way to being someones “girl friend” for the next twenty or so years. i for one hope to never see or hear of him in this sport or any other ever again as he was most certainly that one bad apple… people can speak of such hard times he had with job, injury, divorce etc most all of us have had hard times but he knowingly choose his path….. yes he and i had “problems” that was why i repeatedly attacked him so in these forums and made the nasty comments i did so often… but it did get me most of what was owed… i for one choose not to have his friends make good for my loses…. the person that really deserves your thanks for all the great information in these forums isn’t the likes of old yoti but rather the work, money and efforts of people like michael.
thanks for letting me vent and i do hope you will let this stay, people need to know where the credit is due.
mike
November 18th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
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Report: Mom’s Old Guns
Category: Gun Shops
Mom’s Old Guns Failure To Deliver Merchandise ripoff Silverthorne Colorado
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Mom’s Old Guns
Phone: 720-291-2747
Fax:
P O Box 23268
Silverthorne, Colorado 80498-3268
U.S.A.
Submitted: Saturday, July 29, 2006
Posted: Saturday, July 29, 2006
Champaign, Illinois
On March 17 2006 I ordered from Mom’s Old Guns a very hard to get set of ammunition reloading dies for a Martini-Henry rifle. I paid for the items through Paypal on that date in the sum of $280.50 US; and the turn around time was stated as 4-6 weeks. My final correspondence from ‘Coyote’ was on 23 April, stating that my parts would be shipped ‘the second week of May.’ The date came and went, and repeated attempts to contact ‘Coyote’ have been unanswered. The specific items I ordered were ‘the Package Deal with the 470/500GG-FB mould, 20 cases, and the die set.’
Several emails were exchanged right at first about reloading these particular rounds, and I thought everything was great. Emails after 23 April were on: 23 May; 3, 18 & 26 June; finally on 13 July I informed him that I was going to report him to the Better Business Bureau in Colorado. His phone either rings off the wall, or yields the ‘this phone number has been disconnected,’ it never worked, but for the first couple of weeks he was very prompt about emailing.
So, he’s vanished into the ether with $280. Caveat emptor
November 18th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
JT COYOTE BEATS HIS W-I-F-E !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MONEYBOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 18th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
1.id like to take a moment to talk about a global mod on the PP forums who apparently is all powerful with his ban hammer and is allowed to ban people for no reason at all. this man is our great all powerful moneybomb man JT Coyote. who doesnt tell you has 2 buisnesses his gunsmith buisness and his furniture business but yet needs us to bail him out of his idiototic legal problems involving his cat? and pay for his house. see us regular not all powerful people have to deal with the real world if our business fails we declare bankruptcy. well heres the story monday he puts out this story about a domestic violence charge,which is a flimsy non transparent story that involves housecats, and asks for donations to his legal fees. go figure needs another bailout. some member calls him out on this that why does he get special treatment alot of people in the world are hurting to get by, but yet they do not ask for a dime. but every time mr oldyoti(JT) is down on his luck he wants a handout. this is basiclly what the member said. at that point another member said way to go man to have the balls to say that. this guy is another high ranking member at the forums, who i wont name but many of you know who im talking about. so after some posts this high ranking member posts a threating private message from Mr coyote and says see what happens when you face the mods. the threatining message was somthing like this, Shut up or ill ban you. and your vast amout of research you have provided is a bunch of s--- and thats why alex wont bring you on the show and only allows you as a caller. This is not in the forum rules as of yesterday(it may have changed now to cover Mr conman coyote) to post others private messages but since the high ranking member posted it JT COYOTE BANNED HIM. this now banned member was one of the top researchers at ppforums he provided the type of info that nobody eles did and alot of people including myself were upset for what Mr JT Coyote did in banning him. at this point alot of us started posting that this was bulls--- to bann someone for a unwritten rule and asked Mr JT Coyote if there were any other unwritten bannable offenses. apparently there was because anybody who spoke against the all powerful MR Conman JT Coyote was banhammered immeadiatly and by this point this thread was at least 15 pages long it was origannly called i believe JT needs help with domestic violence or something like that. well Mr JT Coyote erased this whole thread to cover up his insane unjustified banhammering. a new thread was formed from one of the pissed of memebrs saying your not getting off that easy JT. it lasted for about 10 posts and was erased. 3 more threads were created and erased to cover up the wrong doing of MR Moneybomb JT Coyote. finally the savior Sane shows up and erases even more evidence and tries taking the blame off Mr JT coyote. he claims that he unbanned all people but this is not true some of us who were just talking about mr JT coyote abusing his power and mentioning that he should lose his Global Mod status are still currently not unbanned. SO THE POINT TO THIS STORY IS BOYS AND GIRLS THIS MR MONEYBOMB WHO OWNS 2 BUISNESSES AND IS ASKING MONEY FOR PREVENTABLE THINGS LIKE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS ALL POWERFUL. YOU THINK THIS IS A FREE SPEECH SITE AND FORUMS SERVICE IT IS NOT IF YOU SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE YOU GET BANNED. THEY WILL MAKE UP RULES THAT DONT EXIST AND BAN YOU FOR THEM!
BUT MAKE SURE TO SUPPORT A PATRIOT LIKE JT COYOTE NEXT TIME HE GETS A DUI YOU CAN PAY HIS BAIL. HES OVERDUE ON HIS RENT !MONEYBOMB!, HE BEAT UP HIS WIFE !MONEYBOMB! HE OWES YOU MONEY FOR SOME DIES FOR 2 YEARS NOW TOO BAD!
One more step. Reply:
November 18th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
I ain’t reading that… just to let you know… too frikkin long.
November 18th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Weird.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPjKVb3Fo8s
November 18th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Who would allow anyone to install a camera in their home?
November 18th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
I would take a hammer to such a camera, and as for your conman jt, I would believe it I’ve seen mods go on all sorts of powertrips and I think he should work instead of begging people for money. File your complaints about this man on ripoffreports, even though I think you already did from what one of the posts appears. Keep filing, file reports to the BBB as well, make a google search of him or any of his businesses pull up his cons as the first 5 hits, then we will see him get his just desserts.
November 18th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
massive over-reaction to this. it will obviously only be used in cases where a person is regularly affected by anti social behaviour, ie. violence or vandalism. if you are the victim of this, would you rather nothing was done, or would you prefer it was seen by police?
you paranoid nutters need to get a grip
aussie assault Reply:
November 18th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
If the police cant do there job without inserting cameras in peoples homes then they shouldnt be police. Anti social behavior surely isnt out of control but these stupid f---ing laws are. And you brits just let them keep on goin. Soon because of your ignorance they will try this s--- in Aus. And david you need to wake up to yourself. Or just f--- off completely you wanker.
wiggins Reply:
November 18th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Bulls---.
November 18th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
MC Insider Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Why are you British putting up with this?
Because, nobody can cope with it. “You’ve just got to live your life and be positive!” is about a close a paraphrase as appropriate. God knows. I despair. They all just look at their shoes. Or plates. as T. Mckenna said. You couldn’t raise a mob if you paid ‘em
Unless you were the fascist scum that run the place. You only lose friends if you keep harping on about it, is the only retort you get.
November 18th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
I love CCTV cameras except for just one little thing — they are all pointed in the wrong direction. They should only be aimed at all government officials.
November 18th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Is there a law against anti-social behavior? This sounds crazy.
November 18th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
I wish I could get some of these cameras. I think my neighbors are commies !!!!
November 18th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
There is NO expectation of privacy in public places.
aussie assault Reply:
November 18th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
soon ya wont be able to have a shag without some moron behind a moniter watchin ya and jerkin off.
One more step. Reply:
November 18th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
I except privacy in public.. I don’t need a bunch of d@mned snoopers recording everything I saw when I’m on the phone.
November 18th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Copied from Dailyjot.com
Acts Chapter 5 relates the account of how the Christians were raising such a fuss in Jerusalem by preaching, casting out demons and healing the sick that the religious leaders had them put in prison. But an angel of the Lord let the apostles out, telling them to preach the gospel in the temple. Finally, the Captain of the Guard and the officers caught them and brought them before the council. Verses 28 and 29 say the high priest asked them, “Did not we straightly command you that ye should not teach in this name? And behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man’s blood upon us. Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.”
On the night of April 18, 1775, Founding Fathers John Hancock and John Adams were at the home of Lexington, Massachusetts pastor and militia leader Rev. Jonas Clarke. Paul Revere warned them of the coming British. And in the morning of April 19th, British Major John Pitcairn faced a small company of minutemen, shouting: “Disperse, ye villains, lay down your arms in the name of George, the Sovereign King of England.” From the company led by Rev. Jonas Clarke and Deacon John Parker, Pitcairn heard these words: “We recognize no Sovereign but God and no King but Jesus!” Pitcairn opened fire and the American Revolution began.
Jonathan Trumbull, the governor of Connecticut during the Revolution, wrote, “If you ask an American who is his master? He will tell you he has none, nor any governor but Jesus Christ.” And John Adams wrote: “The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity.” Charles Carroll, signer of the Declaration of Independence wrote in a letter to James McHenry November 4, 1800, “Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore, who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure…are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments.”
These Founding Fathers were great men of faith. They understood that obedience to God and His principles were necessary for prosperity, both personal and collective. They knew that a nation based on Christian principles would stand the test of time and they warned profusely that without Christian morals the Republic could not subsist. The day of which they warned is upon us as a nation. Our failing Christian morals and acceptance of all religions and all practices is become our demise. Where are the men like Jonas Clarke and John Parker who will preach the power of God’s word from the pulpit and stand in the midst of certain death to defend it as part of their nation’s legacy?
Have a Blessed and Powerful Day!
Bill
November 18th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
One more step till the cameras are inside your shower watchin you!
November 18th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Hey Don, Bill, or whomever just posted…
While we are at it talking about the Founding Fathers….
Thomas Paine was a complete Atheist.
I know you may mean well, but believing in the boogeyman in the sky is part of the problem, not part of the solution. I was a Christian for 34 years.
I’m sorry, but Christianity is nothing more than an amalgamation of Astro-Theology, Paganism, Judaism, and most importantly, lest I repeat myself…
The Worship of the SUN. Not the “Son”
Don’t want to believe me? I didn’t want to believe either, but WANTING TO BELIEVE SOMETHING ISN”T THE SAME AS IT BEING TRUE.
Look up some of the works of Paul Tice, Jordan Maxwell, and Alan Snow.
You seem like a bright man. Best of luck to you.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
infowars.com=group think
November 19th, 2009 at 12:02 am
TRY THIS……… EVERY TIME YOU GO BY A TRAFFIC CAMERA
FLASH THE PEACE SIGN (EVEN ROLLING DOWN YOUR WINDOW AND LETTING
EVERYONE AROUND YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING) JUST DON’T GIVE
THE BIRD……THEY’LL WAIT UP AHEAD MILES AWAY TO PULL YOU OVER
November 19th, 2009 at 12:55 am
The police have been doing this for years in the US. Its for the War on Drugs, and the War on Everybody else, most especially You!
November 19th, 2009 at 3:55 am
i remember when i was in school i skipped it with a friend and we went to find a doobie. we knocked on a door and cops came out from a church across the street.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:35 am
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