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“Shockingly Calm”: The Phone Calls From the Planes on 9/11
9/11 Blogger
Sunday, July 6, 2008
A number of people received phone calls the morning of September 11, 2001 that they believed were made by individuals on board the planes that crashed in New York, Washington, and Pennsylvania. Descriptions of these calls, however, reveal something odd. According to the official story we have been told, the callers were in an unprecedented crisis, stuck on planes under the control of murderous terrorists, and with no knowledge of whether they were going to be allowed to live or die. Yet in many of the phone calls, the caller appears to have been remarkably calm. Perhaps if just a few of them–for example, those with specific personal experiences, like the flight attendant who was a former police officer–had maintained their composure, then this would be less remarkable. Yet the large majority of the callers displayed this same calmness. In their recollections, some of the people who received the calls have indeed commented on this fact, apparently surprised by it. Some of them have also commented on the absence of panic, screaming, or other sounds of chaos in the background.
At the very least, these details appear highly unusual. As with much else about the events of 9/11, these phone calls raise serious questions. Were they really being made from the four planes targeted that morning, by passengers and crew members? Or is it possible the perpetrators of the attacks were faking them, in a cruel deception intended to help establish the official story, and this was why the callers were able to maintain such calmness? The calls need to be subjected to far closer and more critical scrutiny than has so far occurred, as part of a real investigation into the attacks, in order to establish the truth.
The following summary shows how odd the calls appear to be:
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FLIGHT 11
A computer presentation shown during the 2006 trial of Zacarias Moussaoui summarized the phone calls allegedly made from the four flights targeted on 9/11. According to this presentation, two people successfully made calls from Flight 11, the first plane to supposedly be taken over by hijackers: flight attendants Betty Ong and Madeline “Amy” Sweeney. [1]
Betty Ong called the American Airlines Southeastern Reservations Office in North Carolina, and spoke for about 25 minutes with employees there. Ong said she thought her plane was being hijacked, that two flight attendants had been stabbed and injured, and that a passenger had perhaps been fatally stabbed. She said Mace spray had been used, and “we can’t breathe.” [2] Despite these harrowing circumstances, as the New York Times described, Ong “could not have sounded much calmer.” [3] Nydia Gonzalez, one of the American Airlines employees who received the call, described Ong as speaking in “a very calm, professional, and poised demeanor,” and added, “Betty was calm, professional, and in control throughout the call.” [4] Reportedly, when Ong’s family heard the recording of her call, they “couldn’t believe the calm in Betty’s voice.” [5] In the plane’s final moments, when Ong asked those on the other end of her call to “pray for us,” she was still speaking “in a composed voice.” [6] As the plane approached the World Trade Center, according to Vanessa Minter, another of the employees receiving Ong’s call: “You didn’t hear hysteria in the background. You didn’t hear people screaming.” [7]
Amy Sweeney contacted the American Airlines Flight Services Office at Boston’s Logan Airport. After her first calls got broken off, she was finally able to speak for 13 minutes, up to about 8:45. Sweeney reported “that the plane had been hijacked; a man in first class had his throat slashed; two flight attendants had been stabbed … the flight attendants were unable to contact the cockpit; and there was a bomb in the cockpit.” [8] Michael Woodward, the manager with whom Sweeney talked, later told the FBI that despite reporting such horrific events, “during the entire conversation,” Sweeney’s voice “remained calm and even.” [9] Even just before Flight 11 crashed, Sweeney retained her composure. After reporting that her plane was flying very low, Woodward recalled, she “took a very slow, deep breath and then just said, ‘Oh, my God!’ Very slowly, very calmly, very quietly. It wasn’t in panic.” [10] Furthermore, Woodward noted, he “did not hear any noise in the background during the conversation.” [11]
FLIGHT 175
Three people reportedly made successful phone calls from Flight 175, the plane that hit the South Tower of the WTC: one flight attendant and two passengers. While brief descriptions are available of the call made by the attendant–thought to be Robert Fangman–these reveal no details of his level of composure. [12] Some relevant information is available regarding the other calls from this aircraft.
Passenger Brian Sweeney left a short message on his wife’s answering machine, and then called his mother. [13] In his message to his wife, Julie, he stated, “The plane I’m on has been hijacked, and it doesn’t look good.” According to Julie Sweeney, Brian “sounded calm. … He was not crying.” [14] Details of his composure during the call to his mother are unstated. The other passenger, Peter Hanson, twice called his father, and told him about the hijacking. [15] According to the Los Angeles Times, “In the first call, Peter was calm.” According to Hanson’s father, “His voice was soft, not too nervous.” Whether he was also calm in his second call is unstated. [16]
FLIGHT 77
Two individuals have been reported as making phone calls from the third hijacked plane, Flight 77: attendant Renee May and passenger Barbara Olson. No details have been revealed of whether Renee May remained calm during her call. But, according to Newsweek, Barbara Olson phoned her husband and “was calm and collected as she told him how hijackers had used boxcutters and knifes to take control of the plane and had herded the passengers and crew to the back.” [17] Her husband Ted Olson–who at that time was the United States solicitor general–described to CNN: “She sounded very, very calm. … In retrospect, enormously, remarkably, incredibly calm.” [18]
FLIGHT 93
The majority of the phone calls made from the planes allegedly came from Flight 93, the aircraft said to have crashed in Pennsylvania after passengers attempted to retake control from the hijackers. At least 12 individuals reportedly made calls. Most of them displayed a surprising degree of calmness.
1) Flight attendant Sandy Bradshaw phoned the United Airlines maintenance facility in San Francisco and reported her plane had been hijacked, and that the hijackers had pulled a knife and killed a flight attendant. The manager who took the call later described Bradshaw as being “shockingly calm.” [19] Bradshaw subsequently phoned her husband, who later recalled, “She sounded calm, but like her adrenaline was really going.” [20]
2) Another flight attendant, CeeCee Lyles–who was a former police officer–called her husband. He described, “She was surprisingly calm,” considering the screaming he heard in the background. [21]
3) Passenger Mark Bingham called his family, and talked to his aunt and his mother. His aunt found him sounding “calm, matter-of-fact.” His mother recalled: “His voice was calm. He seemed very much composed, even though I know he must have been under terrible duress.” [22] She also said a background discussion between passengers she could hear, about taking back the plane from the hijackers, sounded like a “calm boardroom meeting.” [23]
4) Another passenger, Tom Burnett, called his wife Deena four times. Deena Burnett later recalled his third call: “[I]t was as if he was at Thoratec [the company he worked for], sitting at his desk, and we were having a regular conversation. It was the strangest thing because he was using the same tone of voice I had heard a thousand times. It calmed me to know he was so confident.” [24] According to journalist and author Jere Longman, in his fourth call, Tom was “speaking in a normal voice, calm.” [25]
5) Passenger Lauren Grandcolas called her husband, Jack, and left a message on the answering machine. Jack Grandcolas later recalled, “She sounded calm.” [26] According to Jere Longman, “It sounded to Jack as if she were driving home from the grocery store or ordering a pizza.” [27] Furthermore, Jack Grandcolas has described: “There is absolutely no background noise on her message. You can’t hear people screaming or yelling or crying. It’s very calm, the whole cabin, the background, there’s really very little sound.” [28]
6) Jeremy Glick called his wife, Lyz, and told her his plane had been hijacked. She recalled, “He was so calm, the plane sounded so calm, that if I hadn’t seen what was going on on the TV, I wouldn’t have believed it.” [29] She has added: “I was surprised by how calm it seemed in the background. I didn’t hear any screaming. I didn’t hear any noises. I didn’t hear any commotion.” [30]
7) Todd Beamer talked for 13 minutes with GTE-Verizon supervisor Lisa Jefferson. According to Jefferson, Beamer “was amazingly calm and composed as he told her of the hijacking of Flight 93 and passengers’ plans to rush their captors.” [31] Jefferson said he “stayed calm through the entire conversation. He made me doubt the severity of the call.” [32] She later told Beamer’s wife, “If I hadn’t known it was a real hijacking, I’d have thought it was a crank call, because Todd was so rational and methodical about what he was doing.” [33]
Honor Elizabeth Wainio spoke with her stepmother, Esther Heymann. Heymann has said that Wainio “really was remarkably calm throughout our whole conversation.” [34] According to Jere Longman, when Wainio was not talking, Heymann “could not hear another person. She could not hear any conversation or crying or yelling or whimpering. Nothing.” [35]
9) Linda Gronlund left a voice mail message at the home of her sister, saying that terrorists who said they had a bomb had hijacked her plane. [36] Her sister has described that, during the call, Gronlund “got real calm and said, ‘Now my will is in my safe and my safe is in my closet. And this is the combination.’” [37]
10) Edward Felt spoke with 911 dispatcher John Shaw just minutes before Flight 93 reportedly crashed, and said his plane had been hijacked. According to Shaw, Felt “was crying … frightened, scared, and anxious.” But Felt’s brother Gordon, who heard the recording of the call, has disputed this, saying: “My brother was not scared. He was very composed, under the circumstances.” [38] Felt’s wife, who heard the recording of the 911 call and also the Flight 93 cockpit voice recording, said Edward “was very calm in the face of death.” [39]
Indeed, author Jere Longman said he’d “heard tapes of a couple of the phone calls made from [Flight 93] and was struck by the absence of panic in the voices.” [40]
Only two other people are reported to have made successful calls from Flight 93. Passenger Marion Britton appears to be the only clear example of a caller sounding panicked. She called her friend Fred Fiumano. According to Fiumano, Britton “was crying and–you know–more or less crying and screaming and yelling.” [41] Fiumano said he heard a lot of screaming in the background near the end of the call. [42] Joseph DeLuca, also a passenger, called his father and reported there were terrorists on his plane. But he has been described simply as having “sounded sad” during the call. [43]
NOTES
[1] U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, “Summary From Flight 93 Depicting: The Identity of Pilots and Flight Attendants, Seat Assignments of Passengers, and Telephone Calls From the Flight.” July 31, 2006.
[2] Public Hearing. 9/11 Commission, January 27, 2004; 9/11 Commission, The 9/11 Commission Report: Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (Authorized Edition). New York: W. W. Norton & Company, 2004, p. 5.
[3] Philip Shenon, “A Calm Voice as Disaster Unfolded in the Sky.” New York Times, January 28, 2004.
[4] Public Hearing. 9/11 Commission, January 27, 2004.
[5] Jennifer Julian, “One of the Last Calls.” ABC11 Eyewitness News, September 11, 2002.
[6] Steven Knipp, “Sept. 11: An Angel Named Betty Ong.” Pacific News Service, September 8, 2004.
[7] “Calm Before the Crash.” ABC News, July 18, 2002.
[8] 9/11 Commission, The 9/11 Commission Report, pp. 6 and 453; U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, “Summary From Flight 93.”
[9] “FBI FD-302, Michael Woodward.” Federal Bureau of Investigation, September 14, 2001.
[10] “Calm Before the Crash.”
[11] “FBI FD-302, Michael Woodward.”
[12] Scott McCartney and Susan Carey, “American, United Watched and Worked in Horror as Sept. 11 Hijackings Unfolded.” Wall Street Journal, October 15, 2001; “The Four Flights: Staff Statement No. 4.” 9/11 Commission, January 27, 2004; 9/11 Commission, The 9/11 Commission Report, pp. 7-8; 9/11 Commission, Staff Report. August 26, 2004, p. 21.
[13] 9/11 Commission, Staff Report, p. 22; U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, “Summary From Flight 93.”
[14] K. C. Myers, “Message From Air is Final Goodbye.” Cape Cod Times, September 12, 2001.
[15] 9/11 Commission, Staff Report, pp. 21-23.
[16] Richard A. Serrano, “Moussaoui Jury Hears the Panic From 9/11.” Los Angeles Times, April 11, 2006.
[17] Michael Isikoff, “‘I Can’t Just Sit Back.’” Newsweek, September 19, 2001.
[18] “Recovering From Tragedy.” Larry King Live, CNN, September 14, 2001.
[19] 9/11 Commission, Staff Report, p. 40; United States of America v. Zacarias Moussaoui. United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, April 11, 2006.
[20] Angie Cannon, “Final Words From Flight 93.” U.S. News & World Report, October 29, 2001.
[21] Brad Townsend, Chip Brown, and Gerry Fraley, “Trapped in the Skies, Captives Fought Back.” Dallas Morning News, September 17, 2001.
[22] “World Leaders Express Horror, Outrage.” CNN, September 12, 2001; Jere Longman, Among the Heroes: United Flight 93 and the Passengers and Crew Who Fought Back. New York: HarperCollins, 2002, pp. 129-130.
[23] Phil Hirschkorn, “More 9/11 Families Testify for Moussaoui.” CNN, April 21, 2006.
[24] Deena Burnett with Anthony Giombetti, Fighting Back: Living Life Beyond Ourselves. Altamonte Springs, FL: Advantage Books, 2006, p. 66.
[25] Jere Longman, Among the Heroes, p. 118.
[26] David Segal, “A Red Carpet Tragedy.” Washington Post, April 26, 2006.
[27] Jere Longman, Among the Heroes, p. 128.
[28] United 93: The Families and the Film. Directed by Kate Solomon, Working Title Films, 2006.
[29] Matthew Brown, “Hero’s Family Perseveres.” Bergen Record, October 5, 2001.
[30] Jane Pauley, “No Greater Love.” NBC News, September 11, 2006.
[31] Jim McKinnon, “13-Minute Call Bonds her Forever With Hero.” Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, September 22, 2001.
[32] Wendy Schuman, “‘I Promised I Wouldn’t Hang Up.’” Beliefnet, 2006.
[33] Lisa Beamer and Ken Abraham, Let’s Roll!: Ordinary People, Extraordinary Courage. Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House Publishers, 2002, p. 211.
[34] “Stories of Flight 93.” Larry King Live, CNN, February 18, 2006.
[35] Jere Longman, Among the Heroes, pp. 171-172.
[36] 9/11 Commission, Staff Report, p. 44.
[37] Jane Pauley, “No Greater Love.”
[38] Richard Gazarik, “Felt Reaches 911 Just Before Crash.” Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, September 8, 2002.
[39] Chuck Biedka, “911 Dispatcher Recalls Frantic Cell Phone Call From Flight 93.” Valley News Dispatch, September 11, 2002.
[40] Jere Longman, Among the Heroes, p. xi.
[41] Jane Pauley, “No Greater Love.”
[42] “FBI FD-302, Unidentified Person re: Marion Britton.” Federal Bureau of Investigation, September 20, 2001; United States of America v. Zacarias Moussaoui.
[43] Jere Longman, Among the Heroes, p. 161.
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July 6th, 2008 at 7:05 am
On the 8th part of the Flight 93 section, there’s a yellow dude with sunglasses. I think you need to change the code for when smileys appear to something less likely to crop-up by accident. Like *sunglasses* instead of 8).
July 6th, 2008 at 7:16 am
Where can I listen to these phone calls? I’ll decide for myself if they were fake.
July 6th, 2008 at 8:25 am
In the Terminator movies the machine has voice reproduction technology. Once the voice has been sampled it can be replicated by the machine, using mannerisms and inflections from the sampled person but inserting whatever words that are desired. The two prominent examples were in Terminator I when Sarah Connor thinks she is talking to her mother but she is talking to the machine (who has just killed her parents but is *calm* and is talking as if nothing has happened) and in Terminator II when John Connor talks to his foster mother who is actually a machine replicating his foster mother’s voice. John Connor detects it is a machine by calling their barking dog “Wolfie” when his real name is Bruno. The machine is *strangely calm* while ruthlessly killing the foster father during the phone call. What happened in 9/11 is sacred for those who lost loved ones. What if, in this well planned event, black ops tech with voice sampling and reproduction was used?
July 6th, 2008 at 8:26 am
I honestly dont even watch TV anymore. I dont take the news at face value, and I always ask myself if this is true, no matter what it is. Its a healthy way to be, if you can avoid paranoia. I wouldnt recommend it for schizophrenics though.
July 6th, 2008 at 8:31 am
If the calls were being made in secret it would justify the calmness. Maybe they had to duck down behind seats.
Still anxiety is still audible in the voice even when speaking softly. It a case of having to hear the dialog for myself before I can make an honest opinion.
All these inquiries are just more diversion from bringing the real perpetrators (The bush administration CIA and FBI )to justice .
I just noticed that FBI is an anagram of FIB. how fitting.
July 6th, 2008 at 8:32 am
Forget the movies, its not even so hi-tech, and has already been manufactured, at least as far as prototype, it then went underground. It is no doubt kept from mainstream for espionage and government ops.
July 6th, 2008 at 9:42 am
The only way I could imagine them being that calm while speaking about such heavy things would have been if they had been recorded during an exercise / role play situation before the 9/11 event happened. In that way they would have read or learned their lines and spoken them during the exercise in a totally calm way because they were describing the terror but not being a part of it. In that way they would be saying what was wanted of them but without the fear and emotion that the real time event would have generated. The words could have been scripted so that long parts of what they were saying from the planes were pre recordings backed up by sound alikes for short bits to fit it all into conversations.
July 6th, 2008 at 10:02 am
I’m with NEPB i’d like to listen to these calls as well where can we go to listen to these calls?
July 6th, 2008 at 10:20 am
In the Sherlock Holmes story “Silver Blaze” the curious incident of the dog NOT barking in the night proved to be a telltale clue. Here it’s the fact that almost all, save one, of the phone calls were described as “calm” – even those that went on for 10-20 minutes
(when there’s time and opportunity for grim realization to sink in and for very powerful emotions to well up). This is, of course, all to be added to the debate over whether such calls were even possible in those very unusual circumstances. By all means, let’s chip at
every single hairline crack in the facade of the Establishment’s official 9/11 story!…
July 6th, 2008 at 10:22 am
I am still very curious as to how they were able to make phone calls while in flight! I have NEVER ONCE had service on an airplane once it reaches even a modest height. Could be possible, but I would like to hear what others think about this. The first time I heard anyone bring it up other than myself was on Coast to Coast.
July 6th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Just out of curiosity and ignorance, has anyone or any group tried to access the routing of the calls as far as which cell towers handled the calls, etc? I thought the cell companies kept track of such things. Surely authentic records could be analyzed, unless, of course, they’re buried or destroyed.
July 6th, 2008 at 10:50 am
This is where I get off of the 9/11 theory. I cant beleave that someone can fake a call to a loved one and have a conversation. There is no way you can fake that. This is what makes us 9/11 truthers look bad. Sometimes I wonder if Alex Jones is working for the Cia just to make us all look nutz.
July 6th, 2008 at 11:00 am
Howard… considering the telecommunication company’s cooperation with the government in their illegal eavesdropping, I’m pretty sure we won’t be hearing about any recordings…
July 6th, 2008 at 11:05 am
No2Nwo… Alex didn’t write this article, and he didn’t even put it on here. Why be se presumptious and willfully ignorant? C’mon, man…
Perhaps this shows us the passive submission our culture is so prone to when under intensive threat- they just shut down emotionally so they don’t draw too much attention from the hijackers.
Peace
DTTNWO!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> X
July 6th, 2008 at 11:14 am
Everyone who knows anything about cell phones knows it was impossible in 2001 to call while the plane was in flight. In fact there were news articles explaining how it was now available, YEARS after 2001, because it wasn’t available before. The American People are just too damned ignorant (and arrogantly so)to listen to anyone explain that, because they trust what the Jew media tells them. That’s really too bad. When the police state continues to usurp their rights, I’ll be laughing while they’re getting locked up….or going broke on legal fees.
July 6th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Seems like we have a couple of STASI aboard.
July 6th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
In response to the person who cannot believe these people could fake a call to a loved one, obviously you have never met anyone in the intelligence community.
ALSO, the voices in these calls could easily have been faked.
Either way, it’s now been PROVEN, even according to the FBI, that the cell phone calls didn’t happen.
FINALLY this is coming out. 9/11 is going to be different than the Kennedy assassination simply thanks to the wonderful use we’ve made of the internet.
For it’s common knowledge that 9/11 was an inside job. EVERYONE KNOWS. It’s too late and the cover up is only helping our cause.
July 6th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
What im really wondering is of the people that called when did they purchase there tickets? Voices can be simulated with computers but you have to have the persons voice first. So when did they record these peoples voices? If someone purchased a ticket a few days or even a few hours before their flight then it’s unlikely. Find someone who bought a ticket that day and also made a call and this theory is a bust. Someones going to say (oh they could have recorded thier voices at the Airport.) Don’t you have to get a wide range of speech to simulate a voice? How would you get the required recording of all these people’s voices? How would you know the intimate details of someone’s life well enough to fake a conversation with loved ones? Finally what do the victoms family’s believe? Do they think that these call’s are suspicous? Or do they just say “unusaually calm” which might mean “unuasually calm.” This theory’s got more holes than swiss cheese. Maybe William Cooper was right about Alex Jones.
July 6th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
what happened to the theory that the planes that hit were drones or some other modified airplane and the real planes with the people were flown to some secret location? could they have let them make these calls before getting rid of them?
July 6th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
The CIA have had the technology to fake someones’ voice for a long time. Many of the callers were flight attendants and their schedules’ are known up to a month beforehand, sometimes longer. Getting someone to be recorded during an interview to get the voice overview would be the most likely way or forced from them once taken off the aircraft at the airport.
Witnesses have come forward to state that on the day of 9/11 they saw an unmarked airliner flying east over the atlantic. Putting all the passengers on one aircraft would seem like the likely story. There would have been enough room for all passengers to be put on the one 737.
July 6th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Cell phone calls are sometimes possible on planes but they need to be flying much slower and much lower than these flights were. Some calls could theoretically been made from seat-back phones but given the parameters, I find it dubious. Voice replication software is far more advanced than what is made commercially available and even short-term surveillance would reveal speech patterns, unique phrases or vocal tics that could be used to give the conversation verisimilitude.
Its really quite simple to fool people (just ask any halfway respectable magician if sleight of hand works, and you’ll have your answer how these calls were pulled off).
July 6th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Then what happend to the planes these “people” were on???? So your saying that govt went and recorded what ever person on each flight sounded like and made fake phone calls to their families? That sounds a lil out there. And I do know Alex did not wright this article. But putting something on his site that might make some of us 9/11 truthers seem a lil wacked out and hurt the cause to try to expand what really happend to the masses that dont beleave isnt really helping us out that much.
July 6th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
The Mystery Of The 9/11 Controller Tape-
The Absurdity Of It All
A stewardess on Flight 11 calls in at 8:02 and talks to a reservation clerk for 45 minutes, and American Airlines doesn’t patch it to the FAA, or the FBI.
Then, the story changes that Ong didn’t call until 8:20, and there is only a five minute portion recorded.
What was said?
The first version was passenger in 9-C is shooting the pilots. The second version was that Daniel Lewin was shot. The final version said four Arabs used knives (box cutters) and killed the stewardesses and pilots.
Where was the FBI? Jets were crashing into buildings. You figure they would forward Betty Ong to the FAA and FBI.
Tape of 9/11 Six Controllers Was Destroyed
On Sept 12th the FAA told ATC to save all tapes regarding 9/11, and for controllers to make summary tapes. In Feb of 2002 an FAA administrator destroyed the tapes.
The destruction occurred even though the FAA sent a directive three days after the hijackings: “Retain and secure until further notice ALL Administrative/Operational data and records.
The FAA manager was instructed by the local controllers’ union vice president to destroy the tape, even though it could provide a fuller explanation of what happened on Sept. 11.
“What those six controllers recounted in a group setting on Sept. 11, in their own voices, about what transpired that morning, are no longer available to assist any investigation or inform the public,” the report said.
The peculiar part?
Ong’s call involve Lewin, and someone had a recording, or otherwise a Capt in Israel’s elite anti hijacking team would never have been mentioned. The fact it came out he was involved in a shooting means Ong had said something to her headquarters, and it needed to be altered.
This wasn’t four towel heads with five hrs in a Cessna, and a Microsoft flight simulator, this was a crack team. The AA pilots didn’t even have time to hit their hijack button.
What Can You Believe?
All you need to do is use logic to decipher this. A 757, on instruments, in the busiest air corridor in the world, at the most congested time, just doesn’t drop ATC communications, and go for a ‘joy ride’. ATC knew there was a major problem when it altered the flight path and stop communicating.
The team leader got into the cockpit, did two head shots, and took over the flight. He had to be qualified, he flew, and navigated a 757 jet 125 miles to a pinpoint hit on the WTC.
July 6th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
False identities mislead FBI
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl.....ptember112
And yet one week LATER, the FBI released their official list of 9-11 suspects, and both names were still on it!
THE GOV’T LIES. Always. The minute you realize this you will be better off.
July 6th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
very good. accuse the victims on the planes of being in on it. that will really grow your support amoung the american people.
such losers.
July 6th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
http://video.google.com/videop.....&hl=en
Final 8 Minutes Of Phone Call From Flight 11 On 9/11
July 6th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
maybe the passengers were all put on to flight 93 and then shot down,who knows.we didn`t see much in the way of plane parts.
July 6th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
MAYBE THE “TERRORISTS” TOLD THE PASSENGERS THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO BE HARMED IF THEY REMAINED CALM AND FOLLOWED ORDERS. PEOPLE TEND TO BE SUBMISSIVE WHEN GIVEN THE CHOICE.
July 6th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
If you pointed a gun at me, I would not cry until you were gone. Sometimes there are more important things to do than self-expression.
July 6th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
the calls were never made from the plane. less than three months ago it was all over the news that it was now possible to call from the plane to the ground with a cell phone. didn’t happen in 2001.
period.
and, why couldn’t the passengers be put on one plane, then certain “credible” ones drugged, you know, a little valium, maybe something a little stronger. then sat in a chair with a script or “talking points” in their hands. they probably all got a “complimentary glass of oj” just for their troubles and delay…
because it’s common knowledge that the ICE stormtroopers have no problem drugging aliens into comas when they are en route to their country of origin when being deported.
could i see cheney and rumsfield ordering the passengers on one plane then flown out over the ocean and eventually shot once the tapes were recorded and the agents made their escape with them.
absolutely.
19 arabs, with no serious training, leaving no evidence,…fairytale.
and who is to say pennsylvania was a mistake, maybe one of the hit men had a change of heart at the last minute, sending all those passengers to their deaths, maybe he or she was trying to justify it all by going for cheney. hmmmm
i am not saying that actually happened, but unless you look at different possibilities your stuck with that second rate fiction their selling us.
July 7th, 2008 at 12:03 am
They’re just pointing out another strange “coincidence”. Having most of the families pointing out they were specifically “calm” is another piece to the puzzle. Don’t shoot the messenger guys.
July 7th, 2008 at 12:41 am
All four 9/11 airliners were at about 25% passenger capacity, the passenger list contained extremely few children or elderly, and a large percentage of the passengers were employed by Defense contractors. Only 22% of the people who were on the four 9/11 airliner passenger lists are listed as dead on the Social Security Death Index. And NONE of the names, real or fake, of ANY of the alleged 19 Arab highjackers appear on ANY of the four 9/11 airliner flight manifests.
http://www.wingtv.net/thornart.....rlist.html
I think it likely that the crews and most of the passengers of the four planes were willing participants in the US government’s perpetration of the 9/11 attacks. At least those who were actual living people, that is; many may have never existed at all.
The Flight 93 crash site looks as phoney as a three dollar bill. An aerial view of the crash site looks like a cartoon image of a plane that was poked nose first into soft chocolate mousse. The Official Version tells us that Flight 93 crashed nose first into the ground, which ‘liquified’ and completely swallowed the plane, which is the Official Version’s explanation for the almost total lack of plane debris on the ground at the Shanksville site. The Official Version also tells us that Flight 93 ‘disintegrated’ on impact. In either case, it is physically impossible for a 155 foot long, 100 ton airliner to either completely disappear into solid ground or completely disintegrate on impact. Furthermore, the Official Version’s lame explanations that the plane completely disappeared into the ground or completely disintegrated on impact are mutually contradictory. You do understand that, don’t you?
Of course, NOBODY is allowed to see any of the alleged plane debris that was collected from the Shanksville or Pentagon crash sites, except for a few pieces of suspiciously phoney-looking ‘eveidence’ that was cherry-picked for mass media propaganda purposes. Just like the Mohammed Atta passport, which is the ONLY thing that survived from the two 757s that hit the Twin Towers in New York. Now ain’t that remarkable?
The 2006 made-for-TV movie “Flight 93,” which was touted to be “highly accurate and historical” shows a dozen of Mark Bingham’s family and friends hanging around the house while Bingham’s mom talks to her son on the phone during the highjacking. The local police were called to the house, and the movie shows a half dozen uniformed cops spending most of their time in the back yard eating donuts (I guess THAT is realistic) while Bingham’s mom talks to her son on a highjacked airliner. The cops politely give Bingham’s mom a lot of privacy and space, and none of them stand nearby while she talks on the phone to someone on a highjacked airliner. They make no effort to trace the call or contact the FBI. No effort to take notes, record the call, or to listen to the call. Highjacked airliner? No biggy. Have a donut. Bullshit.
July 7th, 2008 at 5:18 am
I am suprised that this article has come out so late. I thought it was common knowledge that the calls were suspicous. There are many possible answers to what happened. All of which are theories until we can prove them.
Are the people that died on the planes really dead? Seems an easy answer but they could have been paid off and relocated.
Are they dead but in a different way? Seems easier to just kill them no matter where or why. Land the plane and herd them into holding rooms. Give them scripts to read and then shoot them.
Where are the planes? I remember in Loose Change 2nd Edition, that there is a rumor of two “hijacked” planes landing in Ohio. One was Delta 1989 and the other is to date unidentafied and the officials deny it ever landed although there was recordings and eye witness testimonials. The unidentified plane supposidly landed, taxied to the Nasa hanger, disembarked its passengers which were then herded into the hanger.
What about the families? It is hard to imagine that your government would kill you loved ones for money, but it is harder to imagine that your loved ones would take money to leave you and dissapear. It would take a huge resource to watch the families and to see what they are doing now. Do they go on vacations to other countries? Who do they work for? What do thier finances look like? All telling signs of a cover up. It would not be hard to dig up dirt on these people, but who would want to be the asshole that is harrasing the families of “national heroes”?
Its is a tough position to be in, and one must keep an open mind to the possabilities.
Dan
sorry for the spelling
July 7th, 2008 at 7:28 am
9/11 was an inside job, it is so clear to me , it stinks the smell of unbelievable greed.
if any one was the witness of a murder, your heart, your nervous system will betray you, your breathing will accelerate, your brain will be confused, so your speech cannot be for more then 15 minutes at the most calm and collected, unless of course you took lessons by secret agency to control your fears.
I have never heard of such courses for air hostesses!
They are busted, we know the truth, the science of psychology under duress doesn’t lie. Investigate, compare, and be counted: 9/11 was an inside job.
July 7th, 2008 at 8:36 am
Wage slavery….wikipedia….
You work for petrol, home loan intrest = loan sharking, tax, bills, food, schooling, car to get to work, roof to sleep under till the next day and you do this for your whole life and get to own your home…
dependent on a wage is slavery…
Freedom = a human that is free, will work in a job that he loves.
he will do the work with all human energy and motivation…
A person working in a factory, will never work with all human energy and will be dispised upon by the boss for that reason…
July 7th, 2008 at 9:54 am
I do not find it a bit hard to believe that the rogue government arranged 9/11 for their own fun and profit. I also, however, do not find it hard to believe that one remains calm in deadly dangerous straits. Have you ever been in such? I have, and I can tell you, the panicking part is over once you sense that you are done for. The deadly calm that ensues is no more surprising than the adrenaline rush that comes on when you have a fighting chance.
July 7th, 2008 at 10:59 am
A note on the calls/cockpit audio; I am a professional audio producer. I have over 5000 hours on Adobe Audition and other non linear audio editing programs. These calls could EASILY have been faked.
Example: I threw together a :23 second clip that was supposed to be audio from one of the hijacked planes, just to see if I could do it. I don’t speak Arabic, so I did sounds that resembled the tonal inflections of the language. I put a sound effect of a door getting kicked in, layered a couple of discernible voices saying “Are you crazy”, “What the hell are you doing” etc. Layered some screams to create real depth, had a continuous looping noise of the jet running under all the other audio to create the total atmosphere, and voila, an actual recording from the cockpit.
I played what I had created for my news director, and it totally freaked him out, I mean REALLY freaked him, he thought it was REAL.
Keep in mind that I spent all of 15 minutes making this. Which is very short for creating “Theater of the Mind.” Imagine someone like me spending hours on a project like this. Someone who spoke Arabic, or knew someone who did and had access to actual recordings of in flight 757/767 jet interiors, not to mention of stable of voice talent. They would be able to create the “real deal”. You would not be able to tell whether or not it was the actual recording. Just something for everyone to think about…
Your story is a brilliant breakdown 9/11 blogger! Having an entire bibliography is the way to go; credible, unbiased piece. KEEP IT UP!!
Those that have not awoken to the state sponsored false flag event of 9-11 need to be shown step by step. The propaganda has become deeply implanted in the minds of masses. People are EXTREMELY resistant to hearing anything, and I mean anything, that strays from the official version of events.
That damn History Channel special “9-11 Conspiracies Debunked” has really poisoned their minds, not to mention the non stop hate centric bile that spills from the lips of talking heads across the globe.
Basically if you are trying to reach these people, you have to come PREPARED. You can’t show ‘em a DVD or two and have them get it. You have to bring reference after reference and KNOW your material. You must know the official version inside and out, so that you can point out each specific flaw. Ask them to take notes, and hold questions till the end, make a presentation of it. Hopefully in this case, when you lead the horse to water, it will drink.
Because once the seed of truth has taken hold in their minds, it will grow; they will need to able to nurture that growth by looking deeper for themselves; illuminating the importance of the bibliography.
Kudos
“A Republic, If You Can Keep It.”
Benjamin Franklin, Founding Father
July 7th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
i’m sorry but i’ve tried to make cell phone calls numerous times from various altitudes, both on national and international calls. i’ve done this on every flight i’ve been on since 911 (at least a dozen) and i have never even been able to get a signal (any bars) let alone actually make and complete a call. also, one of the guys who called his mom, said hi mom its ..then used his first and last name!??! who would do this? i think most people’s mother’s know their voices. the whole thing was obviously a big fake and used for further disinformation for the masses stupid enough to swallow the corporate media version of events.
July 7th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Just how hard would it be for a government that has been listening to and recording calls to target individuals signed up for flights of a particular day, get their voice sample and reproduce it electronically via voice synthesizer? Our inelligence agencies have been creating instrumentation to fool and dupe others for years. That is what they do! Having said that, it would be more difficult to obtain a sample on the fly of a panic stricken voice. Perhaps that was their error, or the smoking gun on these calls if you will. I put nothing past the CIA “theatre.”
If anyone with any doubts about 9-11 being an inside job would just read the PNAC’s Rebuilding Americas Defenses agenda of 2000, which was published and until recently ontheir website, they would know that something stinks!
Dick Cheney is the key to understanding 9-11. I would LOVE to waterboard him!
July 7th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
The donut shop near Bingham’s house is pretty good. If I were a cop there, I’d eat a lot of donuts.
July 7th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Dan wrote:
“It is hard to imagine that your government would kill you loved ones for money, but it is harder to imagine that your loved ones would take money to leave you and dissapear.”
It’s called the Witness Protection Program, Dan. The Federal government sets people up with new identities all the time. CIA agents have so many different identities they need a rolodex to keep track of them. A new identity and 1.8 million dollars, tax free? Show me the money and tell me where you want me to live.