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		<title>By: The Truth Is Out There</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kamakase...whose MUMMY wont let him play RUGBY no wonder your NEW ZEALAND compatriots think you are nothing but a scissy and MUMMY&#039;S BOY...and sorry mate you are telling more PORKIES you dont work you not even a boss just a scrounger on the &quot;OLD KING COLE&quot;

I probably earn more money in a day than you do in a week ..As I&#039;m a 
qualified Engineer

You seem to have an unhealthy fetish about McDonalds you sure you dont work there also you ought to come out of the Closet GAYMAN as you realy have  an unhealthy thing about Sucking cocks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kamakase&#8230;whose MUMMY wont let him play RUGBY no wonder your NEW ZEALAND compatriots think you are nothing but a scissy and MUMMY&#8217;S BOY&#8230;and sorry mate you are telling more PORKIES you dont work you not even a boss just a scrounger on the &#8220;OLD KING COLE&#8221;</p>
<p>I probably earn more money in a day than you do in a week ..As I&#8217;m a<br />
qualified Engineer</p>
<p>You seem to have an unhealthy fetish about McDonalds you sure you dont work there also you ought to come out of the Closet GAYMAN as you realy have  an unhealthy thing about Sucking cocks</p>
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		<title>By: Karmakaze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karmakaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ed Concern

&quot;Hey …Out There - I was just practicing my English grammar there a bit - especially the insult-tense which you don’t really learn in the schools here…&quot;

Well shit Ed, you&#039;ve got a LONG way to go, you anally retentive, syphilitic, cock smoker! :P

By the way, if you think insults bother me, they don&#039;t. In fact the more retards like you resort to insulting me, the more I know I&#039;m getting to you, which as I have said before is my main reason for being here. I consider that last post of yours to be Bronze medal worthy, but I am going for Gold! Hell, if you and TTIOT get together (which wouldn&#039;t surprise me as you are BOTH cock smokers!) I could be in for a world record run! :)

Oh and well done doing what all the other retards do - as soon as I crush your &quot;evidence&quot; with the weight of my intellect and a few well placed FACTS, you go into full retreat, no longer even attempting to debate me. Hell, the Georgians didn&#039;t run as fast or whine as loud! Bravo!

So, arse licker, bring on the insults!

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@The Truth Is Out There

&quot;Ed Concern..You are doing fine mate…&quot;

So says the retard who can barely SPELL English!

&quot;like I keep telling that sad sad KamaSHITFACEkase some of us work for a living which HE runs shy of&quot;

You&#039;re right TTIOT, you caught me! I don&#039;t work for a living. I pay others to make my money for me :)

I would offer you a job, but I don&#039;t hire retards. Sorry, house rules. I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll be happy at McDonald&#039;s though. I hear that eventually you get to suck the manager&#039;s dick AND flip burgers! Won&#039;t that be a bonus for you!

&quot;thats why he as all this time on his hands to spend hours and hours trawling through the Internet for useless INFORMATION&quot;

Not like you eh, TTIOT! You don&#039;t need no stinkin&#039; information, you just make shit up and go with that! That&#039;s why you work at McDonald&#039;s. You don&#039;t need an education to flip burgers, do you? Unless you call &quot;Sucking the manager&#039;s cock - 101&quot; an education, that is.

&quot;The rest of us have the Common Sense&quot;

Ah, that great cop-out of the terminally ignorant: &quot;I don&#039;t need knowledge, I have common sense!&quot; (tm).

Yes, TTIOT, I am sure you don&#039;t need anything but common sense, after all flipping burgers is fairly simple - don&#039;t touch the hot thing, put the flat flippy thing under the meat, flip. Yep, I&#039;m sure you can handle that.

&quot;a ONE LEGGED DONKEY IN A ARSE KICKING CONTEST&quot;

Two tips for you TTIOT. The saying is &quot;a one legged man in an arse kicking contest&quot;.

Secondly, in the English language &quot;arse&quot; is preceded by &quot;an&quot;, not &quot;a&quot;. A simple rule of thumb is if the initial letter is a vowel, you use &quot;an&quot;, and if it is a consonant, you use &quot;a&quot; (I won&#039;t confuse you with the exceptions).

A couple of examples:

TTIOT is AN ignoramus.
TTIOT is A retard.

See how that works? Stick with me TTIOT and I&#039;ll have you on the front counter in no time! Hell, McDonald&#039;s might even make you a duty manager! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ed Concern</p>
<p>&#8220;Hey …Out There &#8211; I was just practicing my English grammar there a bit &#8211; especially the insult-tense which you don’t really learn in the schools here…&#8221;</p>
<p>Well shit Ed, you&#8217;ve got a LONG way to go, you anally retentive, syphilitic, cock smoker! <img src='http://www.prisonplanet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>By the way, if you think insults bother me, they don&#8217;t. In fact the more retards like you resort to insulting me, the more I know I&#8217;m getting to you, which as I have said before is my main reason for being here. I consider that last post of yours to be Bronze medal worthy, but I am going for Gold! Hell, if you and TTIOT get together (which wouldn&#8217;t surprise me as you are BOTH cock smokers!) I could be in for a world record run! <img src='http://www.prisonplanet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh and well done doing what all the other retards do &#8211; as soon as I crush your &#8220;evidence&#8221; with the weight of my intellect and a few well placed FACTS, you go into full retreat, no longer even attempting to debate me. Hell, the Georgians didn&#8217;t run as fast or whine as loud! Bravo!</p>
<p>So, arse licker, bring on the insults!</p>
<p>&#8212;-</p>
<p>@The Truth Is Out There</p>
<p>&#8220;Ed Concern..You are doing fine mate…&#8221;</p>
<p>So says the retard who can barely SPELL English!</p>
<p>&#8220;like I keep telling that sad sad KamaSHITFACEkase some of us work for a living which HE runs shy of&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right TTIOT, you caught me! I don&#8217;t work for a living. I pay others to make my money for me <img src='http://www.prisonplanet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I would offer you a job, but I don&#8217;t hire retards. Sorry, house rules. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll be happy at McDonald&#8217;s though. I hear that eventually you get to suck the manager&#8217;s dick AND flip burgers! Won&#8217;t that be a bonus for you!</p>
<p>&#8220;thats why he as all this time on his hands to spend hours and hours trawling through the Internet for useless INFORMATION&#8221;</p>
<p>Not like you eh, TTIOT! You don&#8217;t need no stinkin&#8217; information, you just make shit up and go with that! That&#8217;s why you work at McDonald&#8217;s. You don&#8217;t need an education to flip burgers, do you? Unless you call &#8220;Sucking the manager&#8217;s cock &#8211; 101&#8243; an education, that is.</p>
<p>&#8220;The rest of us have the Common Sense&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah, that great cop-out of the terminally ignorant: &#8220;I don&#8217;t need knowledge, I have common sense!&#8221; &#8482;.</p>
<p>Yes, TTIOT, I am sure you don&#8217;t need anything but common sense, after all flipping burgers is fairly simple &#8211; don&#8217;t touch the hot thing, put the flat flippy thing under the meat, flip. Yep, I&#8217;m sure you can handle that.</p>
<p>&#8220;a ONE LEGGED DONKEY IN A ARSE KICKING CONTEST&#8221;</p>
<p>Two tips for you TTIOT. The saying is &#8220;a one legged man in an arse kicking contest&#8221;.</p>
<p>Secondly, in the English language &#8220;arse&#8221; is preceded by &#8220;an&#8221;, not &#8220;a&#8221;. A simple rule of thumb is if the initial letter is a vowel, you use &#8220;an&#8221;, and if it is a consonant, you use &#8220;a&#8221; (I won&#8217;t confuse you with the exceptions).</p>
<p>A couple of examples:</p>
<p>TTIOT is AN ignoramus.<br />
TTIOT is A retard.</p>
<p>See how that works? Stick with me TTIOT and I&#8217;ll have you on the front counter in no time! Hell, McDonald&#8217;s might even make you a duty manager! <img src='http://www.prisonplanet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ed Concern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Concern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;KamaSHITFACEkase&quot; - I love this language LOL :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;KamaSHITFACEkase&#8221; &#8211; I love this language LOL <img src='http://www.prisonplanet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Truth Is Out There</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Truth Is Out There</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed Concern..You are doing fine mate...like I keep telling that sad sad KamaSHITFACEkase some of us work for a living which HE runs shy of
thats why he as all this time on his hands to spend hours and hours trawling through the Internet for useless INFORMATION

The rest of us have the Common Sense to know we are being SOLD by the SNAKE OIL SALESMEN OF enviroMENTALists and their ilk..a ONE LEGGED DONKEY IN A ARSE KICKING CONTEST</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed Concern..You are doing fine mate&#8230;like I keep telling that sad sad KamaSHITFACEkase some of us work for a living which HE runs shy of<br />
thats why he as all this time on his hands to spend hours and hours trawling through the Internet for useless INFORMATION</p>
<p>The rest of us have the Common Sense to know we are being SOLD by the SNAKE OIL SALESMEN OF enviroMENTALists and their ilk..a ONE LEGGED DONKEY IN A ARSE KICKING CONTEST</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Concern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Concern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey ...Out There - I was just practicing my English grammar there a bit - especially the insult-tense which you don&#039;t really learn in the schools here... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8230;Out There &#8211; I was just practicing my English grammar there a bit &#8211; especially the insult-tense which you don&#8217;t really learn in the schools here&#8230; <img src='http://www.prisonplanet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Truth Is Out There</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Truth Is Out There</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ED Concern..Told you mate!!the guy is a absolute MORON..I&#039;ve given up Arguing with the PRATT AND WILL NOW ONLY TAKE THE &quot;PISS OUT OF HIM&quot;....He comes over as sad sad sad old man stuck to his keyboard
looking up BULLSHIT mostly on Wikipedia..the Man(if you can call him that)wants to get out more and get a life</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ED Concern..Told you mate!!the guy is a absolute MORON..I&#8217;ve given up Arguing with the PRATT AND WILL NOW ONLY TAKE THE &#8220;PISS OUT OF HIM&#8221;&#8230;.He comes over as sad sad sad old man stuck to his keyboard<br />
looking up BULLSHIT mostly on Wikipedia..the Man(if you can call him that)wants to get out more and get a life</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Concern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Concern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those links didn&#039;t seem to work - so, let&#039;s try it again...

“CO2: The Greatest Scientific Scandal Of Our Time by Zbigniew Jaworowski, M.D., Ph.D., D.Sc.&quot; at

http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles%202007/20_1-2_CO2_Scandal.pdf

“Solar Cycles, Not CO2, Determine Climate by Zbigniew Jaworowski M.D., Ph.D., D.Sc.&quot; at

http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles%202004/Winter2003-4/global_warming.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those links didn&#8217;t seem to work &#8211; so, let&#8217;s try it again&#8230;</p>
<p>“CO2: The Greatest Scientific Scandal Of Our Time by Zbigniew Jaworowski, M.D., Ph.D., D.Sc.&#8221; at</p>
<p><a href="http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles%202007/20_1-2_CO2_Scandal.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.21stcenturysciencet.....candal.pdf</a></p>
<p>“Solar Cycles, Not CO2, Determine Climate by Zbigniew Jaworowski M.D., Ph.D., D.Sc.&#8221; at</p>
<p><a href="http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles%202004/Winter2003-4/global_warming.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.21stcenturysciencet.....arming.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ed Concern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Concern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing about the IPCC being &quot;nothing but a political panel designed to collate the work of tens of thousands of the world’s scientists.&quot; 

You might want to - though I know you won&#039;t - read more about that here:

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/mclean/mclean_IPCC_review_final_9-5-07.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing about the IPCC being &#8220;nothing but a political panel designed to collate the work of tens of thousands of the world’s scientists.&#8221; </p>
<p>You might want to &#8211; though I know you won&#8217;t &#8211; read more about that here:</p>
<p><a href="http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/mclean/mclean_IPCC_review_final_9-5-07.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://scienceandpublicpolicy......9-5-07.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ed Concern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Concern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey fuck face - let me quote you: &quot;I am in NO WAY trying to convince YOU. YOU are too stupid to get it... I leave that to the scientists.&quot;

Now, the articles I listed are refering to loads of scientific, peer-reviewed studies made by scientists + most of those articles were written by scientists as well. So, if you have a problem with that, well that&#039;s your problem then, not mine. 

To me you&#039;re still just an Anonomys Asshole with the shittiest karma and with no authority what so ever.

&quot;CO2: The Greatest Scientific Scandal Of Our Time by Zbigniew&quot; Jaworowski, M.D., Ph.D., D.Sc.
http://www.21stcenturysciencet.....candal.pdf

&quot;Solar Cycles, Not CO2, Determine Climate by Zbigniew Jaworowski&quot; M.D., Ph.D., D.Sc.
http://www.21stcenturysciencet.....arming.pdf

&quot;Russians: Warm causes CO2, not vice versa&quot;
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/russians_warm_causes_co2_not_vice_versa/

And now, fuck you very much as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey fuck face &#8211; let me quote you: &#8220;I am in NO WAY trying to convince YOU. YOU are too stupid to get it&#8230; I leave that to the scientists.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, the articles I listed are refering to loads of scientific, peer-reviewed studies made by scientists + most of those articles were written by scientists as well. So, if you have a problem with that, well that&#8217;s your problem then, not mine. </p>
<p>To me you&#8217;re still just an Anonomys Asshole with the shittiest karma and with no authority what so ever.</p>
<p>&#8220;CO2: The Greatest Scientific Scandal Of Our Time by Zbigniew&#8221; Jaworowski, M.D., Ph.D., D.Sc.<br />
<a href="http://www.21stcenturysciencet.....candal.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.21stcenturysciencet&#8230;..candal.pdf</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Solar Cycles, Not CO2, Determine Climate by Zbigniew Jaworowski&#8221; M.D., Ph.D., D.Sc.<br />
<a href="http://www.21stcenturysciencet.....arming.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.21stcenturysciencet&#8230;..arming.pdf</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Russians: Warm causes CO2, not vice versa&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/russians_warm_causes_co2_not_vice_versa/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.news.com.au/heral.....ice_versa/</a></p>
<p>And now, fuck you very much as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Karmakaze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karmakaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ed Concern

What&#039;s the matter Ed? Can&#039;t produce any evidence? Have to resort to stupid &quot;insults&quot; like &quot;Still a virgin?&quot; Grow up you dickhead.

&quot;I bet you’re banned from your own home too, you homeless motherfucker.&quot;

AHAHAHAH Poor Ed, he can&#039;t win an argument and has to throw a tantrum! Aw diddums, did the big bad man call you a retard? Don&#039;t worry little Ed, one day you&#039;ll grow up and you&#039;ll show &#039;em all!

&quot;Now about that “science” of yours - and though you’d make one science case yourself - do you seriously think that science is in some way objective, or is it possible that it’s more subjective no matter how good the scientists are?&quot;

AHAHAHAH see, THAT is why I call you a retard. I challenge you to debate the science, so what do you do, you start whining about science itself! That computer you&#039;re using Ed? Take a sledgehammer to it. It&#039;s THE DEVIL!

To answer your question, of course science is in some part subjective, because scientists are human. That is why there are guidelines and procedures that are used to ensure human bias doesn&#039;t affect the quality of the science. Things like peer review for example, where other scientists in the same field (many who have their own axe to grind) subject papers to criticism in an attempt to expose any flaws or bias.

Notice how many long standing &quot;deniers&quot; were included in the IPCC process. They were there to keep it honest, and they did.

&quot;And no, this is not a rhetorical question - see, if you had even one brain cell left from breathing in too much antropogenic C02, you’d understand the question fairly well.&quot;

I understand it totally. It&#039;s the old &quot;they&#039;re all biased and so the science is bullshit&quot; argument that people who HAVEN&#039;T got the evidence resort to. Seen it dozens of times here.

&quot;Ever thought of the fact that science is in fact an extension of politics and that you just can’t get the two separated in most cases?&quot;

BULLSHIT. Science happens regardless of what ever political axe YOU have to grind. That is why the science behind AGW has gotten stronger and stronger and more and more undeniable as time has gone on, even though the leaders of nations such as the US have fought it every step of the way. Bush even FIRED scientists for refusing to ignore the evidence and replaced them with lackeys, and all that accomplished was having the US be left behind in many fields, for example stem cell research.

&quot;Scientist are not independent - and some are even politically motivated - especially the one’s who were behind the IPCC. But hey, that just politics, so you refuse to talk about it, eh?&quot;

Actually, many of the world&#039;s climatologists totally agree. They say that POLITICS ensured that the IPCC report was as watered down as possible, inserting &quot;uncertainty&quot; where there was none, and always choosing the least &quot;alarmist&quot; viewpoint.

Doesn&#039;t change the fact that the SCIENCE is good. The IPCC was nothing but a political panel designed to collate the work of tens of thousands of the world&#039;s scientists. It did NO research itself. NONE of the science behind AGW was done by the IPCC. So no matter what your beef with the IPCC, it doesn&#039;t change the fact that AGW is real and potentially devastating.

&quot;Now, if this was the 1930’s and the golden age of “scientific” eugenics, I bet you’d be one dedicated supporter of eugenics too. See the “science” was settled then too - and it wasn’t questioned until the war was over.&quot;

Actually, no. Simply because Eugenics wasn&#039;t SCIENCE it was social philosophy that used scientific arguments to push it&#039;s agenda.

The science misused by Eugenics advocates is STILL being used to make GOOD decisions such as in health care. Screening for genetic disorders and using that to sterilise people is Eugenics, but using it to prevent or treat illness is good health care!

My point is, science itself is not political. What you USE it for is political.

&quot;Anyway - you can go on with your pretty miserable social life and amuse yourself here, and if that really makes your life worth living. Frankly, I don’t give a fuck about you and your “science”.&quot;

AHAHAH coward! I put a simple challenge to you - describe what the scientists say the Greenhouse Effect is, and how it works, and instead you start moaning about how bad science is! Can&#039;t you even do that one simple thing?

You expect me to take anything you say seriously, and you can&#039;t even read a Wikipedia page and report your findings? Or did you in fact go and look, only to find that what it is, is NOT what you THOUGHT it was, and admitting that would have shot your own argument down?

You claim you spent nine months researching Global Warming and came to the conclusion it was a fraud. I said you must have had some scientific basis for disagreeing with the science and asked you to present some of THAT information, and all I get is a tantrum about how science is biased!

YOU ARE A RETARD! Thanks for playing, fool!</description>
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<p>What&#8217;s the matter Ed? Can&#8217;t produce any evidence? Have to resort to stupid &#8220;insults&#8221; like &#8220;Still a virgin?&#8221; Grow up you dickhead.</p>
<p>&#8220;I bet you’re banned from your own home too, you homeless motherfucker.&#8221;</p>
<p>AHAHAHAH Poor Ed, he can&#8217;t win an argument and has to throw a tantrum! Aw diddums, did the big bad man call you a retard? Don&#8217;t worry little Ed, one day you&#8217;ll grow up and you&#8217;ll show &#8216;em all!</p>
<p>&#8220;Now about that “science” of yours &#8211; and though you’d make one science case yourself &#8211; do you seriously think that science is in some way objective, or is it possible that it’s more subjective no matter how good the scientists are?&#8221;</p>
<p>AHAHAHAH see, THAT is why I call you a retard. I challenge you to debate the science, so what do you do, you start whining about science itself! That computer you&#8217;re using Ed? Take a sledgehammer to it. It&#8217;s THE DEVIL!</p>
<p>To answer your question, of course science is in some part subjective, because scientists are human. That is why there are guidelines and procedures that are used to ensure human bias doesn&#8217;t affect the quality of the science. Things like peer review for example, where other scientists in the same field (many who have their own axe to grind) subject papers to criticism in an attempt to expose any flaws or bias.</p>
<p>Notice how many long standing &#8220;deniers&#8221; were included in the IPCC process. They were there to keep it honest, and they did.</p>
<p>&#8220;And no, this is not a rhetorical question &#8211; see, if you had even one brain cell left from breathing in too much antropogenic C02, you’d understand the question fairly well.&#8221;</p>
<p>I understand it totally. It&#8217;s the old &#8220;they&#8217;re all biased and so the science is bullshit&#8221; argument that people who HAVEN&#8217;T got the evidence resort to. Seen it dozens of times here.</p>
<p>&#8220;Ever thought of the fact that science is in fact an extension of politics and that you just can’t get the two separated in most cases?&#8221;</p>
<p>BULLSHIT. Science happens regardless of what ever political axe YOU have to grind. That is why the science behind AGW has gotten stronger and stronger and more and more undeniable as time has gone on, even though the leaders of nations such as the US have fought it every step of the way. Bush even FIRED scientists for refusing to ignore the evidence and replaced them with lackeys, and all that accomplished was having the US be left behind in many fields, for example stem cell research.</p>
<p>&#8220;Scientist are not independent &#8211; and some are even politically motivated &#8211; especially the one’s who were behind the IPCC. But hey, that just politics, so you refuse to talk about it, eh?&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, many of the world&#8217;s climatologists totally agree. They say that POLITICS ensured that the IPCC report was as watered down as possible, inserting &#8220;uncertainty&#8221; where there was none, and always choosing the least &#8220;alarmist&#8221; viewpoint.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t change the fact that the SCIENCE is good. The IPCC was nothing but a political panel designed to collate the work of tens of thousands of the world&#8217;s scientists. It did NO research itself. NONE of the science behind AGW was done by the IPCC. So no matter what your beef with the IPCC, it doesn&#8217;t change the fact that AGW is real and potentially devastating.</p>
<p>&#8220;Now, if this was the 1930’s and the golden age of “scientific” eugenics, I bet you’d be one dedicated supporter of eugenics too. See the “science” was settled then too &#8211; and it wasn’t questioned until the war was over.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, no. Simply because Eugenics wasn&#8217;t SCIENCE it was social philosophy that used scientific arguments to push it&#8217;s agenda.</p>
<p>The science misused by Eugenics advocates is STILL being used to make GOOD decisions such as in health care. Screening for genetic disorders and using that to sterilise people is Eugenics, but using it to prevent or treat illness is good health care!</p>
<p>My point is, science itself is not political. What you USE it for is political.</p>
<p>&#8220;Anyway &#8211; you can go on with your pretty miserable social life and amuse yourself here, and if that really makes your life worth living. Frankly, I don’t give a fuck about you and your “science”.&#8221;</p>
<p>AHAHAH coward! I put a simple challenge to you &#8211; describe what the scientists say the Greenhouse Effect is, and how it works, and instead you start moaning about how bad science is! Can&#8217;t you even do that one simple thing?</p>
<p>You expect me to take anything you say seriously, and you can&#8217;t even read a Wikipedia page and report your findings? Or did you in fact go and look, only to find that what it is, is NOT what you THOUGHT it was, and admitting that would have shot your own argument down?</p>
<p>You claim you spent nine months researching Global Warming and came to the conclusion it was a fraud. I said you must have had some scientific basis for disagreeing with the science and asked you to present some of THAT information, and all I get is a tantrum about how science is biased!</p>
<p>YOU ARE A RETARD! Thanks for playing, fool!</p>
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