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Swine Flu Attack Likely A Beta Test
New World Liberty
Sunday, April 26, 2009
The latest bioterrorism attack by the New World Order is likely a beta test. Yes, it is a bioterrorism attack. It was a hybrid strain created from human, swine, and bird flu from North America, Europe, and Asia. It was created in a laboratory. This doesn’t happen in nature.
Baxter was caught shipping a weaponized avian bird flu mixed strain in their vaccines last month in Europe. Again, this is proof that this deadly virus was created in a laboratory because they did exactly that last month. Bayer was caught shipping HIV in their drugs in the 80s. Both of these events are published in mainstream newspapers. You can use Google like everyone else to find them.
I predicted this event last month in my documented and linked article when Baxter was caught. If Baxter was trying to do this, they weren’t going to stop trying, especially when Baxter wasn’t even prosecuted for the crime, and the television news was completely silent about it.
It seems someone wasn’t caught this time before they were able to make delivery of the virus. Not that anyone would be prosecuted for bioterrorism. They weren’t prosecuted the previous numerous times where they were caught.
This latest flu hasn’t been widespread and not that deadly. It seems to be just a beta test and not the real release to drastically reduce the population of the world.
Yes, the ruling elite want to reduce the population of the world. They write about it in their books, in their think tank documents, in government documents, and at their conferences. You won’t hear about it on television news because they’re part of the mainstream media trust, along with AP and Reuters, which are all owned by the same people.
They add the industrial waste and active ingredient of rat poison, known as fluoride, in your water, causing your brain, liver, and bones to rot and decay. They add mercury, which is as toxic as lead or arsenic, to the vaccines as a preservative, causing autism and sudden infant death syndrome, among several other things. Yes, the government hates you and wants to kill you. Government loves war and death.
Before any scientist does anything very drastic they always do a beta test. They are studying several different things such as how far it spreads and how fast. They are studying if it mutates. They are studying if they’ll get away with the crime.
Mexico seems like an ideal distribution point since they know it would spread to the United States. There are less safeguards in Mexico than the United States, but the United States is the primary target. Americans have a Second Amendment right, which makes Americans a big threat to the New World Order and the ruling elite’s power.
It is your duty not to make the latest beta test a success by screaming about it. Scream about it to your elected representatives and to the media. Demand justice.
The sick part about this is that they are using vaccines to spread the virus. The cure for the bioterrorism attack is the method of delivery so take vaccines at your own risk. Take a rat or your local politician to the doctor with you to beta test the vaccine before you take it.
Just be aware they may switch the delivery mechanism to something like food, water, or aerial spraying to drastically reduce the population. I’m not an expert, but I believe injections are the most effective delivery mechanism for spreading such a biological weapon and is why they were caught doing just that.
The real test will be much more deadly and much more widespread. They’ll bring in martial law when it happens and take the rest of our rights away if we happen to survive a large scale bioterror attack.
This is why you must awaken everybody that the government and big corporations are the terrorists, not Islamic brown people hiding in caves. Switch the word “Islamic” with the word “Jew”, and you’ll understand how Hitler came to power in a democratic society. I can’t believe people haven’t caught onto the race baiting by the national socialists running this nation and the world. You’re bigots and don’t even realize it. You’re a bunch of Nazis and don’t even realize it.
This is why you must demand justice for these crimes against humanity by the evil terrorist tyrants in power. This is a big deal. Your life and the lives of your friends, family, and children depend on fighting it.
You might want to question who is making a profit on this as well. I believe Obama even own shares of the company who makes the drug to treat this virus. Illinois-based Baxter working on swine flu vaccine.
This is not a hoax. Dead bodies are not a hoax. What is happening now is not a hoax. It is fact. What Baxter and Bayer did is fact. If you deny these facts, I can’t help you. You’re beyond help.
–jeepndesert
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April 26th, 2009 at 6:31 am
I hope and pray anyone responsible for this beta gets exposed and thrown in prison, I wish the same for all the high level members of the NWO, countless suffering and deaths, torture and the wealth of nations are directly because of the things they push with their influence, and alot of people have no idea. I realize that maybe wishful thinking, and far softer punishment than what I feel they deserve, but thats not something i’m going to post on a public comments page, and atleast imprisonment is a start and i’m sure would be hell for them if it happened. That is what people can do to get the ball rolling, connect the dots A-Z, making the evidence disturbing and truth, put in the info in peoples faces so they cannot deny what is happening, then there would be a public outcry in the millions or billions to deal with these scum, thats what needs to happen, educate your fellow man, its not safe to wait for there solution any longer, you, your loved ones, your family, and virtually anyone you know (the police, the military, the politicians, the general people) except for the select will all be affected when things go down, its in everyones interest except the selects to expose these things. Help save others and in so doing you might save yourself, our strength is to win the intellectual battle and cause an outcry for them to be tried and if convicted thrown in prison, thats what you do with the criminals in your society, accountability for their actions will lead them to prison if you connect the dots and convince people.
Marine Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Criminals, yes you throw them in prison. Traitors that have attacked this nation from within from the most high seats of power, They are guilty of Treason. Treason is ONLY punished under the pain of death and loss of all property and monies, All lose everything for treasonous acts. Stop applying the criminal code to the code set forth in the constitution. This is going to be the most horrific holocaust against humanity ever see in the entire history of human kind. Wake up, it is time to REALLY pay attention and stop the scared rabbit in the hole mentality. Be a citizen or be a subject, But,either way its going to be the worst ever seen. The Hebrews suffered 6,000,000 deaths to their race. Try upwards of 3,000,000,000+ this time around. Look at the reality and make the necessary plans and be prepared to take action to protect your families. The time for political correctness is OVER. Be a responsible citizen. Go and earn your rights!!!!! Speak out and mean what you say, Take action, do what it takes. Remember our founding fathers, They knew what they had to do and did it!!!!! We are a nation of sovereign free states lets act like it and put these clowns in their place. All states recall your reps and military personnel, Remove all power from this illegitimate government. Then reclaim our nation and put a true government of “WE THE PEOPLE” in power and this time make them accountable to “WE THE PEOPLE”. THEN, prosecute these treasonous traitors and give them what they have given us! Nothing! “Give them nothing,Take from them EVERYTHING!!!!”
mars Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 2:13 am
Your founding fathers were freemasons and America became a freemason state, freemasons god is the all seeing eye, you can see this sign everywhere – you really need to get clued up more
Paula Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 11:35 am
So, to put it in easier terms, just say our government is anti-christ.
william wallace Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 7:23 am
go back to mars and read the BILL OF RIGHTS AND THE CONSTITUTION, (God Bless America, and God Bless the Marines) uuurah
blitzcrowd Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:09 am
All the clues point to Baxter, We narrowly escaped a pandemic in Europe just one month ago due to a low level technician testing Baxter flu shots on Ferrets. All ferrets died and it was confirmed that the shot was infected with H5N1. Not a word in the US media.
Baxter should be shut done immediately and we need a Nuremberg trial to prosecute all persons involved. Criminal charges have already been brought against Baxter in Austria, lets hope it works.
DO NOT get a flu shot. For the sakes of your family and more importantly mine.
Barry Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Baxter?
I thought Baxter was the cat in the Meow Mix commercials. Wow, it’s always the ones you least expect.
blitzcrowd Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:20 am
Well i have taken my kid out of daycare for the week and will definitely limit my contact with people for the next week. Hopefully it passes soon and it is a Beta test for depopulation. Which gives us a chance to end this before Baxter and company have a chance for the production version.
RealisticJoe Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
You all are freaking loons! There is no NWO. Go do something produtive with your useless lives!
Benzin Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Why are you even on this web site if you don’t believe, Sir you are an idiot, wake up!
Tina Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
People are concerned about swine flu, including myself, which leads to searching it on youtube and coming up with this garbage. I’m not saying this isn’t true, but it definitely is not the first thing I thought of when I heard of swine flu. It seems a little paranoid to me.
skeptic Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 10:04 pm
You all sound like a bunch of paranoid schizophrenics. And I am a mental health professional, BTW.
Stalin Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 4:43 am
Im assuming, RealisticJoe, that you have a hard time understanding even what the main stream media is covering. Or maybe you should refer back to the speeches of past presidents? Hmm… Are you thinking yet?
astralsurfer Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 2:14 pm
realisticjoe, your a freaking idiot, bush announced new world order, gordon brown announced a new world order. All dollar bills have new world order on them. your the freaking loon. WakeTheF***UP.
rollin09 Reply:
May 2nd, 2009 at 9:48 am
“You’re” not “your” – One can be right and wrong at the same time.
DICKEYCHEESE Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
This has to be the funniest damn thing I have ever read ! ! First off, the whole government puts Mercury in vaccines thing. . those are only in MULTI DOSE VIALS as a preservative so it doesnt grow bacteria. The SINGLE DOSE VIALS have NO PRESERVATIVES. If you dont like the preservative, just request a single dose vial shot.
Flouride in drinking water strengthens bone. . .not decays it ?!? What damn school did you go to for that little bit of twisted knowledge ?!?
ALSO . . for all the GENIUSES on this web page, there is no way to control a VIRUS ! ! The largest viruses are 1000’s times smaller than the smallest bacteria arent even considered living in all actuality. It would be rediculously way tooo costly and impossible to manipulate something that small . .not to mention unpredictable at best. ! ! If someone thought they could make a virus to wipe out man kind wouldnt that be commiting suicide since they are also . . .UH HUMAN TOO ?
and lastly, last I read, the GOVERNMENT WANTS PEOPLE in this country! ! The government puts a price tag on your head the day you are born, its called a social security number. A tax paying citizen of this country is revenue for itself. The government cant exist without the people to give them the billions to make it run. Less people would mean less spending money for THEMSELVES.
THINK ABOUT IT ! !
Rick Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
What is the main ingredient in Rat Poison?
Answer: Flouride
Its a industrial waste product from producing Aluminum.
Follow the Money & the answers are clear.
p.s. Social Security, doesn’t go to the US, it goes to the Queen. See for yourself
S.I. 1997 NO.1778 The Social Security.
Please dont believe the main stream media, as it is owned by only two people.
Youpeolpeareallloonies Reply:
April 29th, 2009 at 1:34 am
Er, “Social Security” IS an American levy, genius. And National Insurance (which I can only assume is what you’ve got confused with here) doesn’t go “to the Queen” in the UK, it goes to the Exchequer.
Perhaps if you’d ever paid some you’d know what you were wibbling on about.
Ryan Reply:
April 29th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
As a public health measure, fluoridation ( the process of adding flouride to water) is unusual in several ways. It is a copy of a naturally occurring phenomenon(I.E. flouride actually occurs in water naturally!) It is supported by libraries full of articles that document its safety and effectiveness—more so than any other public health measure. It is supported by a variety of health, scientific, and civic groups that could hardly be expected to agree on any other single measure. But most significant, it is the only health measure that is often put to public vote.
The active ingredient in today’s rat poison is now Warafin by the way . What you don’t understand about poisons is that what determines if they are a poison is the DOSE!! Several vitamins can be poisonous (especially fat soluble ones) WHEN YOU TAKE TOO MUCH yet they are recommended, and before you attribute vitamin supplements to a conspiracy please remember that vitamins also occur naturally in many foods. Even drinking too much water (of any source, and I mean a abnormally large amount so please don’t get scared and stop drinking water) can lead to death. When we treat water we adjust the amount of flouride in the water to 1ppm. Which means 1 part per MILLION. This is an appropriate amount for people as has been determined through study. If you don’t believe me, please research the data yourself and look at the study. Or better yet. Get a degree in a science field, and use that education to create your own well thought out and executed study using the scientific method !!
Keltik Reply:
April 29th, 2009 at 4:40 am
yes and if dickeycheese hasnt heard about it on fox news its not possible, give me a break, are you that naive that you think we are told everything about what is possible and what isnt possible? Btw I heard your local fema camp is giving away free soup and haircuts, go quickly and get in line before all the golden vegetable is gone lulz.
So how do you explain baxter shipping the LIVE H5N1 avian flu viruses AND the H3N2 human virus in vaccines to europe then? I guess they just made a mistake eh? sigh…
ummmm Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 7:12 am
or you all just made it up.
…….. because yo’ crazzzzyyy!!!!!!
timmy Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:08 am
actually you can research fluoride. The EPA workers own union website is full of info about concerns they have regarding fluoride. Have you ever heard of fluorisis?
Fluoride is indeed a danger in our water supply….don’t bother to research and think for yourself though.
Nick Cage Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Sounds like the plot of National Treasure 3. Did you get an advance copy of the script?!?
Stalin Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 4:49 am
Nick, if you know where to find it, send it my way… I’ll give ‘em a piece of my mind. Otherwise, why the hell would they make a third one? The first two sucked my juicy meatballs! P.S. Lay off the drugs, it’s not cool.
rollin09 Reply:
May 2nd, 2009 at 9:59 am
It the swine flu effecyively diverts attention and worry away from the economy, both wars, and nuclear proliferation in the East, for a brief time, the “outbreaks” will have provided the smoke screen needed to further move the agenda of a One World order and give leaders an opportunity to “save” their constituents. Everybody likes to follow a hero – I think the behind the scenes policy movers and shakers take their cues from Hollywood pulp. The mass public at large are sheep: for herding? slaughter? but always for the profit of the shepherds.
Check out: http://articles.mercola.com/si.....e-Flu.aspx
regicide Reply:
May 2nd, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Is it a New World Order or a One World Order? I’m confused.
dwarf Reply:
May 3rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
this is a good way to shut down the country. who is to say this is not a terrorist attack having come from Mexico.? They have been testing that border for years – maybe they got thru in a way for which we were not prepared . seriously- it could be an attack that could be nasty. But the guy who wrote this main article is a bit nuts.
April 26th, 2009 at 6:34 am
I remember the prediction. It has come true. I didn’t quite understand the implications then, but now it’s obvious. HAS to be a lab created virus!!!!!
kaya Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
I agree it’s manufactured, however i do not agree that it’s a result of the Obama admin. The Baxter incident was in the 80’s long before Obama. It appears we (humans) have been an endangered species for long while. I’m sure the former presidents are/were quite aware of that fact.
blitzcrowd Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:14 am
obama is a puppet, all contemporary presidents have been. Reagan tried to act on his own but was taught a lesson quickly by a little assassination attempt. The only poer Obama has is the influence over the minds of Americans not to rise up against the real terrorists. Not exactly sure who they are but a pretty good guess is the top .01% of the wealthiest family’s in the world.
Bob Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 1:59 am
I do not agree that it was manufactured at all. There is no swine flu.
April 26th, 2009 at 6:41 am
Evilness.
April 26th, 2009 at 7:11 am
What does the Bible say about death by the “beasts of the earth”?Their power is not of their own( the ones responsible for all these assaults against humanity),but is from the dragon,and many more horrible things must come to pass before the end.Hold on to your faith.
Gary (another hillbilly) Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Well said, my Brother. Let the seal of God be on your forehead and upon your home. Let God look down and see himself reflected in you.
This is some freaky stuff, this swine flu. It’s making me paranoid. There was a new guy at church tonight. He was kind of odd. He was going around and shaking everyone’s hand, making a point to shake every single person’s hand. Even if they didn’t want to. He was quite odd. I talked to him and he’s from out of town. This goes to show how freaked out I am. I overcame my fear and talked with this guy until services started. I’m sure he was just a lonely soul, and I did my part. I refuse to let fear and hysteria take me over. I will be a subject only to the Lord most High.
God Bless Alex Jones and all others working to warn and prepare us. Thanks, Infowars!
mars Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 2:16 am
Did you know that when you go to church you are infact worshiping Satan? your religion has been infiltrated
TheTRUTHShallSetYouFREE Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 8:13 am
That is correct, Mars…unfortunately. The Catholic religion has finally been infiltrated in the Vatican as well. It’s insane the amount of facts one can gather from Google”ing” for countless sleepless nights and a heightened sense of all the signs all around us…for example: My family’s always had the tradition to have a candle lit next to a portrait of Jesus. I never thought anything of it. I was in ignorant bliss. The beginning of my curiosity was when I began reading the details of Our Lady of Fatima’s numerous apparitions early in the last century which revealed horrendous things to come. Anyhow, fast-forwarding about 3 nights without sleep after that: Turns out that the same “shadow” people wanting new world order in our politics have also infiltrated the Churches. Which leads me to the seemingly normal “prayer candle”…I realized the illustration, in this scenario, depicted “Mary” with a “Baby Jesus” over her lap…only she isn’t actually holding him…he’s simply laying across her lap, as if dead. Her hands are raised as if in prayer, but…after you believers of the truth look up the things that led me to this…will guess what I mean. Oh, also, “Mary”s crown has not 12 stars, as described during the apparition of Fatima in Peru to 70,000…but thirteen. Coincidence, right? Make no mistake, people…Politics, Science, Prophecy, and religion all finally meet…unfortunately.
April 26th, 2009 at 7:14 am
Just like the chipping of farm animals is the beta for… you guessed it.
April 26th, 2009 at 8:02 am
i hope whoever made it and is spreading it gets it and dies a horrible slow death from it
Bob Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 2:04 am
This is a lie, but whoever fabricated the story will be punished for it.
April 26th, 2009 at 8:12 am
don´t take the VACCINE, the VACCINE has the “sleept” compound, the next aerial virus will be the “trigger”. Like the note says ; inoculate a rat with the vaccine use it as a guinea pig, if suddenly one day it dies, that means they finally released the “trigger”.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:07 am
The “baxter factor from last month was a major red flag, now this event, has at the very least a substantial “chaos” generating factor, and at least a momentary distraction from the rising chatter calling for torture prosecutions. This is the most likely method to be used in an attempt to confiscate guns. It is high time to seal and bury a few guns and ammo, for reboot, in the aftermath. The other option is they will harden the kill factor on the bio/release to just outright kill as many as possible as fast as possible. They will use it to cover up or blend the catastrophic effects of the continuing economic/financial collapses worldwide, which are set to reach critical mass effect by September of this fall.
This release is a military tactic to take control of the current collapse and pending revolution brewwing in Mexico, The U S wishes to “secure” Mexico’s natural resources. Mexico and Africa are seen as ripe for the picking. Get some oil of oregano, and some mesosilver.
templi Beholder Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Read the charter of the “african union”. It is a joke man same players up to the same tricks. It is a real laugh you don’t have to read far to see the aim.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:18 am
An update from my previous post. I’m an IT guy at a native american community clinic. In my previous post I commented on the focus and prioritization of the immunization program; especially for infants and children. It’s important to management that every child get every poke and it’s my job to make the system enforce it – which I’m doing far better than other technical solutions – and that makes me want to spit! This is a mandate from Dept of Health & Human Services, in turn to Indian Health Services, and in turn to us. Pyramids of control are very effective; everyone in the pyramid wants to look good. ANd it’s funny how native managers don’t realize this is another infested blanket. (although, if you saw our logo you’d know this org was controlled by Masons)
Most recently, we pulled out all the stops to report to the state region, a centralized registry or immunization card if you will, for every single patient. This in turn is consolidated at the state level. It’s just starting but soon every single person will be accounted for BY VACCINE LOT NUMBER. They will know exactly who has received the vaccine with the bug in it and who is protected. It’s so sad because we’re so gullible; every single person in this chain thinks they’re doing the right thing (except five guys at the top of some pharma who know which vials get substance-X). In a well compartmentalized operation, per my military experience, the people putting substance-X in the vial won’t even know they’re doing it because they aren’t responsible for the bulk supplies loaded into the machines. This scenario is oh so easy to implement. But, I agree, this swine flu is a dry-run because I know the other pieces aren’t in place yet. Within three years, from a technical/logistics perspective, is my guess. And I think that’s in line with the whole 2012 panic that they are starting to plant in people’s minds – via, for example, programs on the History Channel. By 2012 people will be expecting the end of the world as they were in 1999 and a pandemic will just be accepted as foregone conclusion to something we think (are told) was foreseen hundreds of years ago. We won’t even look for a human cause to this world’s-greatest-crime.
HOLOCAUST Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
HOW THE HELL DO YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT?????
Paula Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
This was a diabolical plan by the enemy. They are controlling the Mexican people, who are ready to revolt, they are preparing the sheeple to beg for the needle. Save us o’big wonderful brother government. Our family is done with compliance my youngest grandchild has had no vaccinations and she will be 1 year old next month. It has been a battle since she was born. If we live our convictions they cannot defeat us. Follow your heart. You do not want to infect children with unknown pathogens; so why do you do it? Find a way to stop. Educate those you have wronged. Personal accountability is what separates us from them.
Johannes Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Hope your granddaughter is a fan of having polio.
algebragirl Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Totally. What kind of a ridiculous idea is it that the medicines created to fight diseases are going to “infect children with unknown pathogens”? It’s irritating how dumb people can be. Did you know the form of mercury in vaccinations is not the same that causes poisoning? And why don’t you target something obviously bad, like smoking? Seriously, if all the idiots on this forum who thinks the government is a bunch of crackpots directed their energy towards the tobacco industry, we would probably halve our nation’s cancer rate! But no, we’d better focus on why the government is trying to kill us. Because most ruling bodies are against the people they receive money from. Perfectly logical, no problem there! Would you people please get lives?
Julia Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Bob, thanks for your info and I agree with you that the “elites” are hyping up a 2012 “end times” fiction to divert people’s attention away from them in their plan to release a bioweapon. This whole situation also brings to mind the movie V for Vendetta in which the plot was government creating a virus in a lab and releasing it on it’s own people in order to bring about a fascist dictatorship.
Dwayne Reply:
May 6th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
This is actually to “algebragirl” The government gets its money now from the printing press located in the Federal Reserve, where do you think they get the billions of billions of dollars to pay for the bailouts/stimulus/budgets? Its just fiat money with no monetary value. Our fiat currency is only used because of Legal Tender Laws. The budget is so large because the population is large, if you half the population – you also half the budget. The Elite will remain wealthy, it is the Elite that run the country, therefore the Elite who are our slave masters.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Please look into this. Just over a month ago all the different drug manufactures of oxycodone, stopped making it, and could not be had anywhere. No answers were given, all Rx’s I was told in VT &. Ation wide were not able to get this medicine for sever chronic pain suffers. Now it is not something one can just stop, dependant not addicted, used as perscribed.
The issue puzzled me why? After about 4 weeks allmanifactures who vaulted and had no more supplies, were back and the medication available again.
I started to notice I felt tired and draged down, all of a sudden. As I thought about this it was about when this new batch came out. In 2005 my MD switched me to methodone, saying this is the new choice over percoset or oxycodone. It wiped me out and clouded my thinking, to a serious degree.
I was able to change back to oxycodone, and became my bright clear self again. In knowing this situation, and how all of the sudden I am slower thinking, putting on weight and tired also ringing in the ears and less coverage of spinal disk pain, it made my concerened as to what REALLY HAPPANED to the oxycodone shutdown nation wide by various manafactures, leaving a dependent cliental high and dry in pain, WHY?
Someone might want to reasearch this, as I have too much on my plate right now!
ryan Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Oxycodone manufactureres are under a lot of heat right now. Mostly because they sell a product that IS ADDICTIVE!! There is a push right now to use alternative methods to manage pain. Specifically ones that aren’t addictive. I believe there is a class action suit brought against some of the Oxycontin makers because their products addictiveness has caused more problems than it has solved.
algebragirl Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
If you are going to put emphasis on something by overly capitalizing it, please spell it correctly.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:35 am
No spell ck on my phone sorry.
Anyone else effected or know of this?
crazy Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Oh. Right. it’s the phone’s fault you’re an uneducated crackhead. Damn Sprint.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Baxter is a division of Bayer. They are basically the same company. No?
So they both involved with the HIV spread.
blitzcrowd Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:16 am
not sure about that one. but you can assume that all Big Pharma are in bed together with the US govt.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Bob, what is this logo on what blanket?
Google VT masons care, check out there initiave with schools as st social services and in the st site recrutimg initive order, and for boys too de meloy. Very scarry, add this to CPS and family courts no due process taking our kids, putting in homes seperating from nuturing caregiver to teach school ways, scary!
April 26th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Folks you people need to wake up. Not all of your government is the problem, corporations probably are the problem. Government does not stand to profit from a pandemic, while corporate interests do.
This is a rather odd flu with genes from 4 different strains that one scientist says has only a 1/10th of one percent chance of being natural, which comes out to be 1 out of 1000. Considering the number of flu virus’s that are on the planet and how much they spread and reproduce, it was bound to happen sooner or later if this was a natural mutation.
At the moment I’m inclined to see it as a natural mutation, although anyone who knows as much as I do will have second thoughts about that statement considering the makeup of the virus. I have another theory but I will keep that to myself as if i said it all of you would freak out even though it would be in your best interest if it was true.
Realize that we already have thousands of people in America infected and no one is dieing yet………..and yet they are in Mexico….seems like it might be a different strain there, or the same which encounter another strain and mutated even further. I strongly suspect we are dealing with more than one strain of flu and the one we have here in America at the moment is probably giving us an immunity to this form of flu which will protect us even if it does turn more lethal in the latter waves of a pandemic……if a pandemic even happens………
I know for a fact it is in other places than what the CDC and WHO knows at the moment. I’ve been following the story for days now and I’ve seen their charts and I know of areas where their are outbreaks of flu like symptoms that are very similar to the reported symptoms of the atypical swine flu hybrid.
If you catch it your going to get sick, but everyone seems to be doing ok other than feelings really bad. if you start to have trouble breathing get to a hospital quick, you have probably developed the secondary infection of pneumonia increasing the lethality of the illness by many times. You will probably need antibiotics to treat this secondary infection as most pneumonia is bacteria in nature.
If you do go to the hospital make sure you remember to wash before going, and to wear a mask and gloves while your outside to minimize the chance of infecting others and hospital workers. Call them and let them know your coming so they can set you up immediately in an isolation ward. Take wheat your going to need with you and plan to be there a couple of weeks. You will be way less bored if you take a wireless equipped laptop with you so you can access the internet from your room. Most hospitals have wifi access now so you can keep up with whats going on while your recovering if you need to stay, if not go back home and stay in the house until you get well.
Post a message on your doors and windows letting people know you have isolated yourself to prevent the spread of the virus. Have people deliver food to your door and leave the area before you open it. Tell them to wear masks and gloves while out and to wash as soon as they walk into their homes with antibacterial soap.
This is the best advice I can give you at the moment from what I know. watch and we will learn if this was terrorism or just a fluke of nature. There is no use to take the flue vaccines, they will provide you with no protection what so ever. A pneumonia vaccine might be of some help if you can find a version with no unsafe additives in it as this give you a measure of protection from secondary infection if you do come down with the flu.
If you here the word this is being pandemic in your area, go to the grocery store and buy at least a month of durable foods and goods, basic medical supplies, toilet paper, bottled water, and buy as much gas as you can for your generator. Expect disruptions of supply lines for at least a month in most areas and maybe longer in others.
Some supplies will be coming in from the government, but they will be limited and emergency supplies only. Buy as many batteries as you can and purchase some led flashlights because they last longer than regular flashlights. Buy some ammo too for your firearm. You may need to protect yourself if things get really bad, of course if it gets that bad and your still alive or recovered you need to be thinking about how to hell to get out of where your at.
Alex (not Jones) Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
The government stands to gain much same as they gained after 9/11, more power with less accountability.Plus the government is owned lock and stock by the corporations anyway.
crazy Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
NOONE stands to profit from a pandemic! It’s a BAD THING! Get it through your head!
rollin09 Reply:
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:42 am
Dear crazy,
Do you see past your nose? ever? Study history outside of elementary school?
There is always profit in a dependent and frenzied population. Hence the constant propaganda, I mean, news coverage.
Also – most people aren’t dieing. Symptoms are generic flu symptoms. There is a whole lot of hoopla and no real danger. More people are rushing to doctors, hospitals, and pharmacies over the hype – So those folks are profiting.
Politicians are gaining capital with every press conference that leads another person to look to government for salvation.
Never mind the ground work being laid now for future grants and research studies for universities, pharmacueticals, and other companies that handles these projects.
Oh – the CDC will sometime soon, if they haven’t already, say something along the lines of “If only we had more resources (aka money) to be able to address . . . .”
And the tons of flu vaccine that doesn’t work that will move from storage to the panicked arms and buttocks of many . . subsidized by Uncle Sam (wouldn’t be surprised to the military has started personnell and soldiers on vaccines for it.
CC Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Please stop spreading such stupid information. This is completely natural. It happens every year. Influenza does this, this is why there are new flu vaccines each season. That is also why some are not as effective as others. The genes “swap” constantly, and the CDC uses computer projections to predict the strain for the next year. Stop pretending to be experts because you can google swine flu.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:08 am
You people are all freakin nuts, wash your hands have a drink and don’t go to any petting Zoo where there are pigs.
Quinny Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Chris,
If ignorance is bliss, you have reached a state of nirvana…
Julia Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Quinny, brilliant retort!
Yeah, It's Me Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Chris — I will GLADLY go to a petting zoo and pet as many pigs as possible, since not one person so far who has gotten the swine flu has had contact with a pig… !!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:03 am
oh shit … bull shit
I am with chris …. you people are all spun
Julia Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Thank you for your pointless comment
RealisticJoe Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
spun is an understatement…. these people SHOULD be shot. fucking idiots
Keltik Reply:
April 29th, 2009 at 5:07 am
lulz realisticjoe, its okay that you feel the need to defend your ego because you dont understand and havent researched this yourself and therefore are jealous of others who have the capacity to think outside of what the tv teaches us. Nobody thinks any less of you for it but understand that we are worried for our fellow people, for humanity, we dont trust our governments and all the evidence is pointing toward the fact that there is going to be a mass bio attack very soon.
If you cant cope with this kind of thing then thats ok but why do you feel the need to state that people like myself should be shot?
So here you have myself – Somebody who has looked at the evidence that has been presented by people such as Alex and Jason, then gone and done my own research to verify what i have been presented with. Then once i confirmed that this is very possible that the elites in this world are plotting for mass depopulation of the planet (and were caught red handed doing so just last month) am very worried for my fellow humans and am warning all my friends and family and also people on the internet about this.
Then there is RealisticJoe – Somebody who has no hard evidence to back up any argument you have ever made on this website and have called numerous times for acts of violence against people who disagree with you, and due to such lacking volcabulary you feel the need to feed your ego once again by using profanities so you feel cool.
Hmm, I think the idiot is you my friend
Amazed Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Keltik,
Rule of thumb: If your sentence is longer than 20 words, you might need a period somewhere.
At first I thought all you people were whack jobs. But after reading this article and blog- maybe selective de-population is a good idea.
No Thank You Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:36 am
WORD
No Thank You Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:38 am
If you were a bioterrorist you’d want to create something that’s a lot more deadly than this. The problem with influenza is that the second you put it into people, it replicates and mutates very quickly. Even if you created the perfect bioweapon, within a few generations of transmissions, it wouldn’t do what you planned for it to do.
rollin09 Reply:
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:44 am
You sound just like Hitler . . . .They never did find a body . . . .
April 26th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Sir I too am worried about biological warfare… But please get your fact straight… Thimerisol in vaccines is ethyl not methyl mercury….. Elementary chemistry tells you that the two are distinctly different and thimerisol 1 has not been in vaccines since 1999 2 has never been shown to pass the blood brain barrier and deposit in the brain…. In addition we do not put rat poison in the recipe to flouridate water…. The healthcare of our children involves prevention of harm… We are not that ignorant and we have long put children not the government first… As a healer on the frontline I will protect them against the government and the ignorance of half truths…..
Marine Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
I challenged your theory JULIE. I work in a Lab and YOUR wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NotFuckingNuts Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
I think I’d rather get chemistry advise from someone who has manage to learn how to spell, thanks.
Matt Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Ahem, I think you mean ‘advice’.
alanis suetro Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
… and, you probably should have written “managed”, not “manage”.
Julia Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Julie, so you are saying that you are ok with mercury in vaccines? Regardless of whether it is ethyl or methyl mercury, are you ok with injecting mercury into your infant???? The vast majority of health care pros are well-meaning, good people. They are just indoctrinated into a malicious SYSTEM and are UNWITTINGLY causing harm. Julie, have you researched all of the deaths and severe injuries caused by the Gardisil vaccine? Have you read up about Aspartame, MSG (which is disguised as “natural ingredients” on some food labels) and how the FDA looks the other way at all the deaths and injuries caused by these FDA-approved poisons? That is only the tip of the iceberg. If you think that the government protects you, look up how much money the pharmaceutical industry spends on government lobbying every year – it is more than ANY OTHER industry (more than big oil, big tobacco and the insurance industries!) Go ahead and close your eyes and pretend the government loves you and looks out for your best interests. Go ahead and believe what the mainstream news networks tell you (even though they are now all owned by only 5 separate massive CORPORATIONS. Gen. Electric for example owns NBC News! Yes, GE that dumped tons of toxic PCBs into the ocean for example – THEY are one of the main sources of mainstream media!!). Or open your eyes and start doing your own research. Start by watching free on google video Making A Killing: The Untold Story Of Psychotropic Drugging.
ryan Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Julia it is a good idea to do your own research; however, using baseless facts post by random people on the internet who may themselves not have clue as to what they are saying is not a good way to go about it. Try taking courses in mathematics, chemistry, physics, etc… try learning how the world around you works and backing up that knowledge with well founded experimentation that shows consistent results when tested. Then you can use this knowledge to evaluate the problems better. If you follow these methods, you will be able to better understand what is going on, and then you will be able to address the problems at face value.
mars Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 2:37 am
Western medicine is shit, primitive and barbaric
April 26th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Yeah, um…don’t offer any evidence or proof or anything. Just assume that a virus that naturally evolved (as all viruses do) was hatched in a laboratory by mad scientists to eliminate the population.
People would actually take you seriously if you could offer PROOF to your claims every once in a while.
You have ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE OR PROOF that this strain of swine flu is “bio-terrorism” – you’re just SAYING that it is.
Come on, people, if you want to be revolutionaries, GET A BRAIN. You rail against the MSM for lying and distorting facts, and then simply believe a post on a forum because someone SAYS it’s bio-terrorism without providing any evidence or proof? COME ON. THINK, PEOPLE.
HOLOCAUST Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Bioterrorism existed within concentration camps and the ‘fluoride’ they gave these people. Tests have proven Ethylene Dibromide, Aluminum, Barium, etc. exists in the chemtrails falling from the clouds above you. Rocket fuel in water is now in infant formula. Loads of lead infiltrates chocolate. Vaccinations are now causing autism (widespread) among other issues. This just skims the list. When the scientists and physicians who WORK FOR THE FDA ran to Congress with mounds of documented evidence of what their FDA overseers have been preparing to do to the American people, you mean to tell me YOU need more proof? You work for the masons or the central forces? LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING FOLKS, YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW. THE VERY POISON YOU’RE INVOLVED WITH IN HARMING OTHERS, WILL MAKE A FULL CIRCLE AND INFLICT YOU AND YOUR OWN LOVED ONES, SEVEN TIMES OVER.
Mike Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Only seven times?
jeepndesert Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
my bad, i should have linked directly to the toronto sun. i should have also included the fact it has the 1918 spanish flu dna in it as well…
wakethefckup Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 4:02 am
This has been going on for over 100 years. If you don’t get it by now you never will and i feel sorry for people like you.
http://www.answers.com/topic/bayer-ag-adr
Bayer and I.G. Farben profited handsomely from their support of Adolf Hitler. By 1942, I.G. Farben was making a yearly profit of 800 million marks more than its entire combined capitalization in 1925, the year the cartel was formalized. Not only was I.G. Farben given possession of chemical companies in foreign lands (it had control of Czechoslovakian dye works a week after the Nazi invasion), but the captured lands provided its factories in Germany with slave labor. In order to take full advantage of slave labor, I.G. Farben plants were built next to Maidanek and Auschwitz.
nazi references are boring Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
What a most useless factless irrelevant comment.
No Thank You Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Mark is so right. There is absolutely no substantiation in this article whatsoever.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
I’m with the writer. This is a Beta-test. How coincidental it is: That the day Obama was in Mexico people were already sick? What is even more coincidental, Obama meeting with Felipe Solis, the next day the guy was dead. Could the powers that be want to get Obama?
Aimee Reply:
April 29th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
We can only hope!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Also, it looks like April 10th was the first day that someone got to Solis, who knew he was going to see Obama. Solis started to get sick on April 13th, (not sure about the day he began to get sick).
April 26th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
It is wrong to panic over the threat of Swine Flu. Unless you hear that thousands have died pay no heed.
aussie assault Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
you could be right but its killed many already and if it isnt contained how do you know you wont get it?as we speak its already heading around the globe.im from australia and new zealand have already quaranteened 10 students who just got back from mexico.people are panicking cause they fear for there lives which i can understand.and its exactly what the elite want you to do.
rollin09 Reply:
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:46 am
Agreed
April 26th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
The way the above article is written makes me sick (joke not intended). Sure the virus in question is possibly one thats been created in a lab, but the author seems to want to make accusations, on the premise that this is gonna be really bad, the real thing! But then the falls back on the ‘beta test’ bit. Its a bit like the author really wants to stir things up, but just in case millions of people dont die, the author cannot be accused of hype, because he surmised it was only a beta.
It seems to me that so many conspiracy theorists are just waiting for something bad to happen, so they can say ‘there you go, I was rite all along’. The thing that gets me, is that real people’s lives are caught up in the events, and the conspiracists seem more keen to prove their point than to express their concerns about the people involved.
I do go along with the general notion, that our governments are out to get us under control, fool us into believing their lies, and make us the victims of their scientific tests. But sometimes the conspiracy theorists come over as just as sick minded, egotistical bigots as the forces to which they themselves claim to be against.
jeepndesert Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
you miss the point. you arrest serial killers when they kill their first victim. if you don’t, they keep killing.
mars Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 2:39 am
No you arrest murderers when they kill their first victim not serial killer, a serial killer is a killer that kilss more than 1 hence the name serial
Bruce Hayden Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 6:57 am
Your words here are a great offense to us ‘conspiracy factists’ Balgorg. I woke up to the ‘REAL WORLD’ in 1993. Almost everything I learned from the so-called ‘conspiracy theorists’, as you and others call them, is true, has already happened, or is in the process of happening, OR WILL HAPPEN. Those of us who have paid attention for all these years and screamed our asses off to these fucking sheople you say we are supposed to have sympathy for are sick of attitudes like yours. I am just as pissed off at the average American as I am our sicko enemies running the show. Those of us with the eyes to see and ears to hear have given almost every waking moment of our lives for many years trying to wake people up to THE REAL WORLD
Bruce Hayden Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 7:04 am
Sorry..I hit enter accidently! I wasn’t finished with your offensive comment! We are not sick-minded egotistical bigots as you say! We are realists who have given our lives
(time is the stuff that life is made of as Ben Franklin said long ago) to trying to make the football-watching, beer-guzzling idiots see their situation. They had, and continue to have no time for us ‘wingnuts’, tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists, or any other of a hundred names we answer to from the Joe Blows of the world. Yes, I am laughing.
A very cynical laugh but a laugh nonetheless. I have no sympathy for these ignorant sheep….except maybe the kind that Jesus offered.
Was Here Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Bruce,
Did you ever think you may be a sheep in a herd of conspiracy theory nuts???? Did you ever think that you may be following the person in front of you in line????
Think of that next time a conspiracy theory comes along and you jump on the bandwagon.
the real world Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Brue,
If you manage to fling around enough ridiculous theories, one or two are bound to be true over time. By claiming theorists are predicting, have predicted, or will predict each and every global event, you seriously discredit yourself. I’m all for questioning what you’re told to believe, but when you lose your ability to present your arguments in a reasonable nature, you’ve lost your right to respect.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
I agree with Balgorg, conspiracy theorists do tend to go to far and get sucked into a world of paranoia which goes deeper and deeper until they are in a state where suddenly every government and corporate body seems to be conspiring againt them at every level from the air they breath (chemtrails) to the water they dring (flouride)
jeepndesert Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
and they are doing exactly that. fluoride is rat poison. and the barium and aluminum they are spraying in the air isn’t healthy either — and the fact they don’t talk about it openly and publically makes it even more suspect — it is a slippery slope to allow the government to spray the air like that. when does it turn into nerve gas?
April 26th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
continued:
Medicines and vaccines (mercury) and every aspect of their lives. I am not saying that the government are perfect but is it not possible that there is some good being done? I mean the average life expectancy of humans is longer now than has ever been so how are we being poisened ect, where is the evidence people??
Its good to have knowledge about possible NWO organisations but why get yourself booged down in something that you have no power to change. Just trust in God.
aussie assault Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
yep god will help us.havent you heard of the universal rules?even god cant help us with this one and you sound like someone who is prepared to sit back and cop whatevas dealt to you.i feel sorry for you.we can change alot of things.thats when people like you wake up to the truth.go check out the georgia guidstones and tell me what ya think. at some stage something will give and this so called swine flu could be a rehersal for something on a much bigger scale.these people believe they are bigger than god and have the power to do as they please.
mars Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 2:42 am
We do have the power to change, it is just a matter of the people geting of their backsides and doing something about it. Its all the same with you folks – you recognise that their is a NWO and all you do is use the internet to talk wheres the action?
April 26th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Apologies for my spelling errors!
April 26th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
“This doesn’t happen in nature.”
Yes, yes it does. Almost every major case of epidemic level viruses in history (going back long before these evil labs you are dreaming up could have possibly existed) is caused in part by a species jump. It is a rather rare event, but it causes massive changes within the virus, so sometimes the virus gets ‘lucky’ and keeps all its naughty bits while becoming more transferable/unrecognizable to old vaccines or something like that. Do not pretend to understand stuff that biologists study for years to comprehend, everything doesn’t work exactly like you think it should.
Merlin Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Does it work like you think it should?
I mean, you open your mouth as well…
Walrus Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
It works like I have LEARNED that it DOES.
Empirical evidence trumps biased guesswork.
Merlin Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Well, than you should cite a source as well.
Merlin Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Besides, if knowledge is available it can be understood very well.
Hey! I didn’t invent E=MC^2.
But I do understand it.
Walrus Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
I agree, however after reading this article it is clear that the writer does NOT ‘understand it well.’
Merlin Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
If you say so…
We talk about chances.
Chances are slim that it is a natural virus, because it contains stains from three species and from three continents (as the media tells us).
Besides that, it has a remarkable politically oriented outbreak: besides the countries of the transatlantic pack, the only Central Asian country that has the flu now is Israel.
Check the flu map yourself; I did an hour ago or so.
Very suspicious.
Ruling out unnatural causes is just as bad as ruling out natural causes.
For the rest, the writer uses absolute terms and that is far too soon.
Merlin Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
My apologies for the incorrect use of grammar now and then…my concentration is not always that well, but I try to correct things if I notice it.
jeepndesert Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
it doesn’t combine several different dna strains from every corner of the world, from three types of viruses, and a virus from 1918.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Cite a source or it is BS.
Merlin Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Agreed.
Besides that, I am really anxious to hear the live news and the phone calls.
jeepndesert Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
http://www.torontosun.com/news.....60781.html
April 26th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
You need meds for paranoid schizophrenia: “Paranoid schizophrenia is one of several types of schizophrenia, a chronic mental illness in which reality is interpreted abnormally (psychosis). The classic features of paranoid schizophrenia are having beliefs that have no basis in reality (delusions) and hearing things that aren’t real (auditory hallucinations).”
April 26th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
can someone please explain how a old rock group [the WHO]suddenly become “experts” on a flu outbreak!
HOLOCAUST Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
OMG! You think they’re talking about the rock group????????????? Oh God please hold my bladder in place!
Deborah Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
OMG, I love it!
April 26th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
The CDC has to be “expecting” something to happen. And have been for awhile!! Go to youtube and type “FEMA coffins” these “caskets” are owned by the CDC and the land is leased by them as well. They are being found outside many cities on tracts of land all over the country. The only use for so many such boxes is to hold dead bodies. There are hundreds of thousands of them.
Just personally thinking now, these people in power NWO, Masons, Illuminati, or whoever they are know that the earth’s resources are quickly running out and the environment is being destroyed. What is the single most effective way of conservation? Reduce the number of consumers/polluters.
April 26th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
The spooks always come out en masse to discredit any progress made by those who wish to derail the aristocrats sadistic plans for our future — even when it involves murdering us.
They’ve killed us in the past and covered it up, numerous times. By the looks of the apathetic public they’ll do it again. But it’s tough to compete with a tiny minority which controls everything….the one percent which controls 99.9%.
HOLOCAUST Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
PREACH IT!
April 26th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
When in a war the enemy sometimes gets desperate. The enemy gets desperate because they see they are losing the battle. Ask yourself who is desperate right now? The financial illuminatti? Yes definetely. How about Isreal? Most definetely. They are pissed off because they don’t have the green light from O’Bama to knock off Iran, (using our money of course.) Iran is very close to a nuke and Isreal is getting edgy. A desperate enemy will use a weapon of mass destruction when there back is against the wall. Especially if they are not really known and can do it in secret.
Remember the words of “V.P. Joe Biden”! He said, “President O’Bama will be confronted by some event somewhere around 6 months into his presidency, to test him”. “I don’t know what it will be, but it will be a big test”.
April 26th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
and we wonder why the Islamists call the US “The Great Satan”
Kay Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Islam is no buddy to the Western world either please keep that in in mind that their precious prophet Muhammad married a 6 year old child mass murdered people and robbed raped and pillaged. This is the role model of Muslims while there are moderate Muslims there is really no moderate Islam. And there is no seperation of church and State in Islam they simply have Sharia law. Europe is practically in shambles for allowing radical Muslim immigrants in for cheap oil. Something that this site should honestly report on. Like most sites it is half truths. Is the NWO an genda real? Yes, some of it is quite real but at the same time I think some is also misinformation. One can find billions of search pages on google alone for NWO conspiracies so the myth that the elite do not want you the general populace to know about X or Y and Z of the NWO is a bunch of hooey.
Regarding this swine flu virus strain what we do know is this:
“According to reports, the virus is a “never-before-seen form of the flu that combines pig, bird and human viruses” which consists of an intercontinental mix of viruses from North America, Europe and Asia.” Associated Press
We also know its not from pig to human contact see and did come directly from pigs if this is natural the original carrier could be avian as there are no reports of pigs infected with any of the four viruses that we know of yet or birds. No one has reported on this probability but what is stranger if the host is avian carrier for all four viruses it is much rarer for it to cross to humans than from pig to human. Which means most likely the original host was human hand became infected with all four viruses at the same time.
CDC officials detected a virus with a unique combination of gene segments that have not been seen in people or pigs before”
“Alarming reports are now filtering in about people catching the illness who have had no contact with pigs whatsoever. These include a man and his daughter in San Diego County, a 41-year-old woman in Imperial County and two teenagers in San Antonio, Texas. In fact, in all U.S. cases, the victims had no contact with any pigs.”
If naturally mutated all four viruses would have to combine in relatively short time since influenza mutates fast. The scenario would be like this: A bird with avian flu caught N. American Swine flu which flew to Asia in a day or less and also caught Asain version of swine flew which flu to Mexico and infected a human already infected with human influenza thus the human host became infected with all four strands of virus which replicated and mutated into this new strain.
And yes the requirement would indeed be a four fold infection of these viruses together.
This is what happened see here from TimesOnline that clearly explains that the host has to be infected with different viruses at the same time but SAME HOST.
Read!
What virologists fear is a different process, called antigenic shift or reassortment, which has driven previous pandemics. It is this that appears to have created the Mexican swine flu. Antigenic shift allows flu to acquire much larger genetic changes very quickly, creating new strains to which the human immune system is entirely naive. These can make it much more dangerous because the body cannot immediately defend itself.
“Flu mutates this way when two different strains infect the same host at the same time, which allows them to exchange whole sections of their genetic code.”
Yet this is FOUR strains together which exchanged whole sections of genetic code to produce this new strain thus the host was HUMAN not pig or avian as one with half a brain can cleary read between the lines. In fact pigs can not even get this virus see here again:
“Curiously, the new virus does not seem to cause disease in pigs…”
So tell me do you think it is “naturally made” or somebody made this virus? I think the evidence points to the host was human and not avian pig porcupine or otherwise and since the likelihood of getting sick from four influenza viruses all at the same time is ridiculous and highly unprobable to be naturally occuring someone or groups gave the host or hosts 4 strains of this virus causing it to combine…and then of course it spread human to human in Mexico.
Note interestingly from a general informational site on infleunza from 2007 regarding the avian flu:
“The “shape” of receptors in the cell wall is a little different from one species to another, so a virus that can latch onto a chicken cell usually can’t infect a human. But the process isn’t exact, and there are minor variations from one organism to another, even within a species. The 100 or so people in Southeast Asia who have died of avian flu infections over the past year may have had just enough variation in their cell structure to allow the avian virus to attach. Or, a few copies of the avian virus may have mutated enough to infect a human. The fact that only a few cases have been reported argues for the former explanation.”
Scientist prophesy the following!
“Some species have the misfortune to be about halfway between birds and humans. Pigs, for example, are susceptible to both avian and human strains of flu. What scientists fear is that a pig somewhere may be infected with both viruses at the same time. With proteins and RNA strands from both viruses floating around inside the cell, new viruses might assemble containing a reassortment of components, perhaps with the proteins that attach to a human cell but with other features that give it the virulence of the avian virus, including the ability to infect cells outside the respiratory tract.”
Umm yeah except here is the problem as stated in above articles from mainstream News this new strain does NOT infect pigs.
So scientists predict a supposed strain all along along that is pig and avian with human viruses yet one forgotten detail if a pig was the host then it would ALSO infect pigs as well as humans. Then this science page pushes the anti-virals as a cure or preventer
here such as Tamiflu:
“Antiviral drugs can interrupt the process by which a virus reproduces at several stages. Amantadine, for example, prevents the virus particle from opening after it enters the cell and can inhibit the manufacture of virus proteins. Relenza and Tamiflu stop the virus from budding out of the cell. But antiviral drugs are helpful only if they are given within a day or two after the onset of the disease. Their most important application is to prevent the spread of disease within a family or community by giving them to people who have been in contact with an infected person. Again, notes Whittaker, this approach can only be used if the disease is diagnosed promptly.”
Source: http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/515536/ Date: Released: Mon 24-Oct-2005, 09:10 ET
April 26th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
the US is the king daddy of corruption, the only difference between the US and foreign country’s leaders’ corruption is those in the US have the money and resources to do real damage. + people are so easily convinced that what they hear on the news is fact.. Does anyone think that it’s kinda strange how this outbreak is being downplayed. As much as they were “freaking out” about a few isolated cases of H5N1, now H1N1 is doing %1000 more damage in such a shorter amount of time.
April 26th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Your claim it does not happen in nature is patently false. In fact, it is ridiculous to claim viruses to not hybridize or exchange genetic information. This happens all the time. What evidence do you have of deliberate manufature? Evidence, you know, facts, not hype? Anything? Because I don’t see any here.
look it up... Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
So then please, by all means tell me how a virus can evolve in nature to contain the following.
Human flu+ Avian flu+ U.S swine flu+ Asian swine flu+ European swine flu= current panic
The swine flu found in it is from 3 industrial advance nations. Somehow then it formed in Mexico (a known vacation spot) and has spread around since. With officials now saying its too late to contain it… rather interesting to me.
I’m more interested in a recent finding in NY, saying that they may have found a perminent solution to the flu virus (over the winter i beleive). They found a common link in all flu viruses but this was before the current swine flu outbreak. I dont know if its connected but seems rather convienient.
look it up... Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
just poked around for that new vaccine and found some nice info.
wont be able to test on humans till around 2011 and it was made up of the avian flu, old swine flu, and current strains.
I’m staying out of any city for a long time.
jeepndesert Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
because they were caught before mixing viruses?
http://www.torontosun.com/news.....60781.html
and because avian, swine, human, and 1918 spanish flu having their dna combined is something that doesn’t happen.
in nature, a virus mutates. it doesn’t splice dna.
Deprae Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
jeepndesert, viruses (and bacteria) are capable of “splicing” DNA. in viruses, it’s known as re-assortment, and happens when two similar viruses infect a cell at the same time.
The newspaper article you link to as evidence that they’re trying to kill off humanity makes it clear that the danger of having the two viruses in the same samples was that it _may_ have given the dangerous H5N1 strain a chance to re-assort with the easily transferred H3N2 strain. That’s why it was such a dangerous mistake.
It’s uncommon for a virus to be a combination of several different strains, but it is more likely to happen in places where large amounts of the animals are kept closely together and in poor hygiene.
And why do you keep saying it has the DNA of the 1918 spanish flu? there’s no evidence of that.
Kay Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
“jeepndesert, viruses (and bacteria) are capable of “splicing” DNA. in viruses, it’s known as re-assortment, and happens when two similar viruses infect a cell at the same time.”
Exactly so how did the ONE host become infected with FOUR strains of influenza virus at the same time. Because you are right on this. How likely is it that the host was sick with all four viruses at the same time? Please enlighten us on how common this is. I can only find reference that it happens with TWO viruses infecting the cell at the same time but not three and four infected one host.
All your comment proved is how unlikely the scenario would be for the HOST to be infected with four viruses at the same time to mutate into this new strain.
Tim Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Kay, The number of viruses in found in an infected person is not an indication that they were simultaneously infected by four separate viruses. Rather, the virus that they were infected with had “spliced” several times over the course of its lifetime and therefore contains traces of the different viruses involved.
In the case you outline above, I believe that you are confusing the phenomena of “splicing” (which you found examples of happening to two viruses at once) with a later “splicing” that may introduce a third, to actual infection, which is a single virus that may be comprised of many.
I certainly understand how this is an easy misunderstandings to make. I do hope that you allow yourself to reassess the big picture that you have formed a belief in. Many conspiracy theories hinge on this kind of misunderstanding that will often cause the house of cards to fall. Just because something sounds plausible is not an indication of fact. Insist on facts to back up your beliefs. If there is a conspiracy, there will most likely be facts.
April 26th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
This is very true many of these current diseases including HIV are zoological transfer mutations. Often contracted by people in third world countries eating “bushmeat”. When animals such as monkeys and other types of rodent species blood can potentially intermingle with human blood these organisms have the chance to cross over and mutate.
But influenza has been the focus of bioweapons research for years.
Deborah Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Gappa Says.
Are you our of you crazy mind!
April 26th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
PROOF!!??? WTF!?? if you were a biologist that happened to cook up a “superbug” would you leave any evidence?? That’s as stupid as robbing the corner store and leaving your drivers license behind.
Walrus Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
So we can’t prove that someone didn’t do it automatically = that someone did do it?
April 26th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
It is not just a problem of question of orchardtrated or not around medication.
Check our another Serious Husshed State of Affairs right here in our USA Family Courts closed to media were our children are being taken from loving parents or one parent.
We are many. Reasearch this, look at these links educate all and be a voice for us; Dads, Moms, & KIDS, we are victims in the family court system couruptipn through divorce pr CPS by Lawyers, MDs, GALs, and Psy. a lot of victims Advocites re: CPS and children taken from parents w/o due process, evidence or foundation story after story.
http://www.parentalrights.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD2TowPuYVg
FireDragon Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Yep. They are even trying to take kids from families without CPS intervention now without investigation or even charges.
April 26th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
The BETA TEST was PRE 911 NYC West Nile Virus 1999. Persons who are immune compromised etc. are considered UNAVOIDABLE RISK when NEUROTOXIC PESTICIDES were sprayed from air and ground over the entire city and suburbs without proper EPA pre monitoring. The DOH used the term “EPIDEMIC” back then and everyone HAD TO BE SPRAYED.
April 26th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Experts have been saying for years that the human race is long overdue for another major pandemic. And it isn’t a matter of IF it will happen just WHEN. Whether it is natural or lab-created really does not matter. The Four Horsemen of Revelation…
April 26th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
The moment I heard today about swine flu I thought that it sounds like bird flu MkII. The second thought, as the radio said it had just ‘mutated’ was, ‘yea- in a government laboratory’.
Normally it takes millions of years, but you know with a media studies degree you wouldn’t know that. The way the BBC laps it up is totally comical. They never ever ask even the most basic questions, and the most obvious of the lot is whether it is an act of bio-terrorism. How can they be so certain as to rule it out, even while saying at the same time the WHO is starting preliminary investigations? Even their own Bull$hit does not add up.
April 26th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
This story can only be a product of a delusionary schizophrenic.
Andy Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Looks like we have an agent from the elite, or a government drone posting here!
April 26th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
HMm very interesting…….its all about controld isn’t it?
With all the terrifying things happening around us our only safety is in making God our strenth.
What we are seeing is just a part of the terrific battle between good and evil, Christ and Satan.
All the calamities in this dying world to me are the footsteps of an approaching God
Jesus is coming back soon
mars Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 2:47 am
“terrific battle between good and evil”??? nothing about wars is terrific – ever seen maimed children who have lost their limbs?
sandy Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 6:50 am
the root word of “terrific” is terror…..you are misreading the comment
April 26th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Why are they downplaying this to the max? The bio-terrorism card should have immediately come into question.
Thinking that this is an intentional act is not depraved or psychotic.. Now-a-days you have to read between the lines to figure out what is really going on.. For instance.. This whole friggin “bad economy” bs is just an excuse for those elite a-holes to rob the treasury.. At all of our expense.. People see CNN and FOX and CSNBC and they get forcefed so much bs for so long they actually believe it. I am so sick of hearing “bailout,stimulus,economy” I almost threw up in my mouth. ALWAYS question what you are being told especially by the powers that be.
Out of all 6+ billion people on this planet don’t y’all think there could be a few with intentions to major damage to humanity.. 9/11 showed that, whether it was the US elite that pulled it off or O-bin laden… food for thought
April 26th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Anakim.. I agree, the Lord is coming.. soon. the stage is being set..
I am wondering where all the athiests and bashers are.lol
mars Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 2:52 am
No the lord is not coming soon – there are still goals of the NWO that have not been implemented yet. One question for you – when the NWO isfully here what happens if there is no second coming? We are fcuked, it is up to us to do something, I know I’d rather die fighting this NWO than sitting around doing fcuk all waiting for Christ – Do you think Christ is going to come than to save your lazy ass? you need to help yourselves before you receive any help for Christ
April 26th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
I am just going to stand back and watch the shit hit the fan.
The masses in general have not a clue, and could care less. If a vaccine becomes available. the masses will be knocking each over to be the first to get it.
The government will make it look as though there will be a shortage. Wait and see, they did it before. If you remember, the masses were racing to be the first to get injected with it.
Like I said, I am going to just sit back and watch. You could warn most till you are blue in the face. And most all will call you a crazy nut job.
So just follow my lead. sit back and watch the idiots fight over a vaccine.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:55 am
THERE IS NO SWINE FLU. It is a scare tactic and a control tactic.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:57 am
They just want a reason for martial law, and it also takes the heat off of the tea parties. There is no swine flu.
holyangelvt Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 5:52 am
Amen 2 that. I see it 2. What if their cure is laced with whatever that want. A poleice state, take away the money, quarrntine, the public, make a reason 2 have or fell like one has 2 get the shot to service, look at the big picture.
See it?
April 27th, 2009 at 2:01 am
I do believe this Mexican Swine Flu virus was bio-engineered. It is just beyond belief that so many viruses from so many areas of the world could just suddenly “miraculously” be combined. The questions I always ask are: Why? and By Whom? …..still working on that, hopefully I am wrong about the “Why?”. So, I have some advice, though, in the meanwhile for this evil, and maybe “this time” it won’t be censored, here goes:
#1 Buy and take the truly most remarkable substance on Earth, Garlic Capsules or Clove Garlic (if need be); I have on personal experience and with advice from 4 good sources that Garlic KILLS all viruses and bacterial infections.
#2 Buy and wear in public Surgical Gloves and Mask; don’t worry about looking silly.
#3 Buy Gallons of Bottled Water for drinking, cooking, etc. (You just never know about those Chemtrails.)
#4 Buy Rubbing Alcohol, Bleach, Vinegar for disinfecting.
#5 If you have pets, stock up on pet food while you are stocking up a bit for yourselves.
#6 Repent and Pray, and have a little Faith.
With love, Karen
April 27th, 2009 at 2:09 am
Oh, Thank you so much for posting my advice.
Oh, and one more thing I forgot:
Hey, United States Government and Homeland (In)Security and WHO, et al:
CLOSE DOWN THE U.S./MEXICO BORDER…..NOW!!! Or, YOU will be held liable for the deaths and ill-health of ALL Americans infected with this Mexican Swine Flu virus!!!
Thanks in Advance, I Pray, and Good Night and Good Luck.
Karen
April 27th, 2009 at 2:14 am
I would trust the Chinese government before I would trust any other. Don’t be gullible and trust everything you hear! This is a total lie. There is no swine flu! I can still remember the time they told everybody there was a shortage of toilet paper and all the fools ran out and bought toilet paper. How stupid of them! There were napkins, notebook paper, wax paper, sheet rock, and trees all over the place, not to mention they were printing money at the time, too! It was a consumer test, to see if the people believed it. The trick to this particular story is to understand how they test for the virus. They tell the doctors to do an ‘A’ test and a ‘B’ test. If it is under the B test, it is not swine flu. If it is under the A test, then it MAY be swine flu. There is actually NO TEST TO DETERMINE 100% THAT THE FLU IS THE SWINE FLU. I repeat, there is no test (no matter what they tell you) that determines that a virus is definately the swine flu…….only that it MAY be. Do not fall for this; they just want martial law, plus it takes all the activity away from the tea parties and other things going on right now, PLUS it makes you FEAR!
April 27th, 2009 at 2:21 am
Gun and jump come to mind.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:43 am
“You’re beyond help.”
–jeepndesert
Fortunately, I think you can still be saved jeep – seek psychiatric help immediately.
“There is actually NO TEST TO DETERMINE 100% THAT THE FLU IS THE SWINE FLU. I repeat, there is no test”
-Bob
Bob, you need to google the word “Microscope” – fortunately no test is required to prove that you are an idiot, as you pass with flying colors.
“CLOSE DOWN THE U.S./MEXICO BORDER…..NOW!!! Or, YOU will be held liable for the deaths and ill-health of ALL Americans infected with this Mexican Swine Flu virus!!!”
-Karen
I agree with closing the border, but the rest of your statement wreaks of CRACKPOT, I’m sorry.
April 27th, 2009 at 5:23 am
Check out http://www.getyourjusticelive.com
For help understanding the state of our family court systems and ways we can bring accountably and change.
April 27th, 2009 at 6:38 am
you dont even cite any sources in your rant. yes it’s extremely troubling and suspicious in many ways. still, you need to back you raving up with some credible sources.
April 27th, 2009 at 6:45 am
They know we are not going to back down so I guess the are going to make us real sick. How nice and is the shots that every one will have to take is a one two punch we will see.
April 27th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Now you know why Allah prehibited the eating of swine (pork)
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April 27th, 2009 at 8:14 am
great stuff. Haven’t seen satire like this in ages. Keep up the good work.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:31 am
this is bullshite there is no conspiracy you’re all a bunch of raving religious morons
MORONS
April 27th, 2009 at 8:38 am
wow you have quoted the sun as your source
idiot
April 27th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Well, Mars- if the Lord don’t come… Gappa still has his arsenal and he loves mowing s#it down. BLA-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-M..
Gappa will go native y’all. Face paint, camos, killin’ deer for food.
I like the thing about the news telling people about a shortage of t-paper. That just shows how stupid people are. The sheep.. They think they are so intelligent sitting around at their Starbutts sipping on their non fat soy lattes’. man I almost threw up in my mouth again..
Anyway back on topic. This is shaping up to look more and more like a first strike run than a test. I do find it interesting someone mentioned the Chemtrails… Chemtrails are quite an interesting phenomenon.
April 27th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Oh my God, you guys are for real, aren’t you?
April 27th, 2009 at 9:21 am
all the cell phones nationwide were out on 9/11 because the world trade center went down, oranges arent really orange, sunkist paints them that way to trick us, the pentagon is really an eight-sided skyscraper, and the swine flu is a beta test.
April 27th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Hahahahahahaha.
Repeat.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Observation Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Deus Ex… Do Sex… How funny!
April 27th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Hav-a-brain… Yes.. Whether you believe the Bible, or just look back into our past. History almost certainly repeats itself!!!!!!!!!!! But NOW we have several things that are upping the ante. 1st. There are more people on the planet than ever before. 2nd we are in the “Age of Oil” and fossil fuels which are quickly running out contrary to everyone’s belief. The powers that be know this and even run their tests and simulations about what will happen when the demand starts to exceed the supply. It would not take much, even a decrease of 5 to 10 percent under demand would become a major problem. Think about it. we know full well how stupid the masses can be when they think something they need is in short supply.
April 27th, 2009 at 9:39 am
You read it here first. Lunatic causes widespread panic in the gullible…
It’s a great fact that there are people in the world who will, literally, believe anything. Long live the human race…
D
April 27th, 2009 at 9:55 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLT0_xMeLjI
April 27th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Looks like its time for a lot of you to take your medicine.
April 27th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Thank you for your enjoyable, but mental blathering nonsense. On my planet we have a law that prevents lifeforms from accessing technology which is smarter than them. I will speak to my contacts at the Grove about introducing this on to your world to keep the general populous safe from your mad flow of consciousness silliness.
Can I also suggest you get rid of all your kitchen knives, forks etc as these are quite sharp and you could hurt yourselves…or were they placed in your cutlery drawer by the ruling elite out to kill you? It really makes you think…or does anything make you think.
April 27th, 2009 at 10:38 am
D I V I D E & C O N Q U E R ……!
.
Only government jobs available lately? Are you getting paid for your smear campaign here?
You guys are all over the internet, i find you everywhere. Experts in bringing down humanity,
so the aliens can have this planet for themselves. And you do this, just to get your next loaf
of bread on the table, who cares about tomorrow, next week nor anyone else. Why do you
sell out so cheap?
.
It is so obvious, that this is a trial. Every 15 minutes they attack us with the news of this
supposed swine flu. They mess up with numbers every time, talking total shit, it is just so
obvious, a 7 year old can easily figuer that out, nothing but lies spreading, confusion & hype.
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It is so obvious FEAR TACTICS, fear mongering…..they want Martial Law so bad, they can
taste it. Of course its a lab created virus, what else. So was HIV and that is definately now
proven 100%, but of course not prosecuted.
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Playtime is over. Stop rioting in the streets, instead storm those City Halls, Congress, Legis-
lators in person, lift them out onto the streets & throw them into the gutters, where they be-
long, you slow Morons with your constitution excuses.
April 27th, 2009 at 10:52 am
yeah the same way certain checks and balances were put in place after the Great Depression to keep it from happening again. Oh yeah and the morons who said “the housing bubble will never burst”. blogspots don’t create panic, it is the news media engine that does. They have people scared so s#!tless right now it has almost completely collapsed the world monetary system.
consider this: if today the media started in with.. “The economy is wonderful and everything is just fine, stocks are way up, investments are booming, houses are selling like hotcakes.” WTF do you think would happen then????
Paula Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 11:40 am
In other words, the media controls the people. They can tell people ANYTHING, and they believe it……just like the swine flu thing………which is a bunch of B.S.
Paula Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Even the people who say they don’t believe the media…..well, they turn around and believe them when they say there is a swine flu. People are so stupid.
April 27th, 2009 at 11:37 am
You know, right before this flu scare thing…..the very night before…….Glenn Beck said something on his show about the Jews. I just don’t believe there is a swine flu. I think is a deluder.
April 27th, 2009 at 11:46 am
I remember, as a boy, playing games with other kids. When there was a jew playing the game and he/she was losing, what the jew kid would do was to delude everyone so he could steal. “Look over there at THAT thing”……of course he was then back in the game. After a while, no one wanted to play with the jews anymore, so the jews moved on the other things to delude us with. It is in their nature to do these things. They are in control of our government and our media, so why do you believe them now? Why? Right when things get heated up on our end (the right), “Look over there at THAT thing” just seems to make people forget what they were doing before. So, yes, Paula is right. THERE IS NO SWINE FLU.
April 27th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Dude get a life!!! are you serious come on dude get off the computer crawl out from your moms basement, get a job and some friends and get a fucking life!
This goes out to all the freaks posting on here, seriously
There is no conspiracy, these people your talking about are the same as you and me just people. People aren’t these crazy, secret all seeing all knowing masterminds that we see in the movies there just people yes in a higher position sometimes than us but people and when something big happens all of us little people start assuming stupid shit because we watch to much TV. Just think first if it seems fucking stupid it probably is just use your common sense.
Oh yah and by the way the lockness monster exists, aliens have visited our planet and kidnapped white trash for the last 100 years and their really is a monster under your bed so watch out!
Threat matrix Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Yeah. And Rothschild got rich winning the lotto. And building 7 “collapsed” from fire.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
You guys are a riot! If I had a nickel for every time a conspiracy theorist made some nutty prediction that didn’t come true, then a) I’d have about $2.45, b) this article alone is worth about six bucks.
I got the link to this article from a comedy site.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE!!! DIDN’T ANYONE READ THE STAND?!?!?!?
oh you people are endless amusement
April 27th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Even if conspiracy theorists are correct we have been taught and bred well as a race to distrust one another and have a need for goverment and authority
apart from rioting and mass protests there is nothing in our primitive imagination that will allow us to stop the events unfolding for us to be able to to something about what will happen we would need a degree in microbilogy and a few million dollors
what i realize is the plan of the nwo if it exists is not a human plan and has no one human controlling it look to the stories about jesus and the man with chains with a legion of demons inside him if you belive in that sort of thing you will realize that jesus came also to realize that its not the humans that are the threat no matter how leet they are or intelligent humans do not from birth have the capacity for true evil it grows on them like a drug addiction
but now what does have the true evil from birth well jesus was fighting them and if they can invade a man with a legion then what can they do with world leaders? and else…
i belive that no matter what happens our life is a gift as god knows all and has seen all
so the point of life is to live and better oneself
i do not agree with sitting down and doing nothing but as i said we do not have degrees in microbiology so for me its time to start thinking about leaving the western world for wide open spaces like the desert or the outback
in the times of noah a whole nation was enslaved by the egytian masters but the israilites could do nothing then against that form of nwo it was only with wise guidence from a gifted induvidual which set them free
if we pay attention to the attention seekers we will be depressed and pissed of but if we ignore them and live and plan our lives as normal it will effect them much more then if we start rioting
we need to stop them from takeing the place of god in our minds they are not the last hope and from other examples ie : mother teresa and ghandi jesus etc… even doing nothing but preaching peace will get you pain and misery with these powers so imagine what fighting will do ? exactly what they want is to provoke the few intelectuals who would do something so they can lock you up
The age old question : What is the point of life ?.
Ask this question to a blind man he will reply : to see.
With sign language ask a deaf man he will say : to hear.
Ask this same question a to a dieing man he will say : to live.
Live today open your eyes.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
sorry for the spelling mistakes but my meaning is clear for the few who understand
peacefullness is the hardest thing to do
April 27th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
I think I would have to say that most of you are complete idiots. Not only do you lack a basic understanding of virology (which is understandable, most lay people do…I love the statistic that says “there is only a 1/1000 chance that the virus is of natural origin”. Seriously? Have you ever heard of antigenic drift? Recombination?), but you all seem to lack basic powers of reason and analysis.
If the “New World Order” really wanted to do itself a favor, it would design a virus that would remove imbeciles like you from the gene pool.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Stop searching for the anti-christ people, start looking for jesus christ and stop living in fear! you are the real fool!!!!!!!!
April 27th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Another thing, If the “goverment” wanted to reduce the population then they would give free birth control and stop wasting money on expensive tests!
April 27th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Mexican Drug Cartels have more money than any terrorist network in the world. Why are they (shoot Pat Til) in Afganistan when they should be on the Mexican border?
April 27th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
I agree with everything said here.
The Government is just trying to reduce population. They’ve already got Hank and Boomhauer’s showing symptoms.
As I promised Hank, I’ll be keeping Bill away from Peggy, and I’ll be dedicating my life to Propane.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Why exactly does this virus have to have been manufactured?
The genetic code of influenza is physically split into 8 distinct sections. When two strains of influenza infect the same cell in the same animal or person, those bits of genetic code get mixed together and a new strain is created. Since influenza likes to jump between host species, this means that we can get all sorts of combinations originally isolated from pigs, birds etc infecting humans. We humans keep very large numbers of influenza’s favoured hosts (pigs and birds) in crowded conditions. So every few years, new human infecting strains of influenza emerge from that pool. There’s no big mystery or cover up, it’s all quite well understood by biologists. We just can’t develop vaccines quickly enough to deal with them, unfortunately.
April 27th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
I love how you “christians” talk, “focus on Jesus” in one sentence and “you fools” in another.
According to the Bible Christ himself called some folks fools but he knew them. One really doesn’t know who you are talking to online.
Rule: Power corrupts.. Ultimate power ultimately corrupts..
Building 7? he!! all of 9/11 was fishy.
S#!t has to hit the fan some time.
April 27th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Now let me say first that I respect your beliefs and opinions, and I admire your suspicions of the global elite (really – I do), but this flu is likely not a ‘beta test’ for a population-reducing virus. First, genetic recombination, even of 3-5 viruses like in this case, can happen naturally under the right conditions. Those conditions occur most frequently in such places as large piggeries or chicken battery farms, where infectous agents can spread between animals quickly, allowing for plenty of chances for recomination. But on your theory that it’s an attempt to test an anti-population virus, that’s a bit of a stretch. First, you don’t have to send it out amongst the population to test its effectiveness. That would be a very inefficient way to do it, as it would be hard to control, which is what you need in an observational study. Second, if you’re going to make a serious virus with a high chance for mortality, flu viruses are not the go-to viruses. Modifying ebola or marburg or other high-mortality viruses to have longer incubations and so better transmisibility would be better options (and more appropriately cruel for some arrogant NWO). Third, why would you risk making your plans known by spreading a virus amongst the people where anyone with knowledge and means of gene sequencing (of which there are plenty) might discover its nature? If this NWO is behind this, they seem an unscientific and awfully stupid lot.
On the matter of providing proof of a clandestine elite with aspirations of global domination, try harder.
April 27th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
People Are Expedable: did you read on Jeff Rense That 40 Top Biological Scientist All Have Died in a 4 year period? How did that happen.?
April 27th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
The new world order has been trying for decades to institute global matrial law and to wipe out and or brainwash the human race. And yet, every single attempt of theirs, has failed miserably. From their attemtps to send political dissidents to gulags in alaska, to their many failed attempts to start world war III. Remember when they started putting fluoride in the water? We all thought it was the end for us, but then, much to their dismay, it turned out all fluoride did was make your teeth healthier…. they’ve tried chemtrails, and pathogens hidden in meat, and all manner of other things, and yet every single time they failed miserably. Why should we bo so worried now? they’ve never been successful before. Hell, they can’t even rig election anymore! Remember the 2008 election? The new world order is failing hard.
April 27th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Ruling Elite with aspirations of global dominance. WTF!!?? look into our fairly recent history Julius Cesar, Napoleon, Hitler, etc etc.. Whether they are secret to the public or known, people like this still exist. Why would now be any different?
April 27th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
You guys are one nutty crowd…I really enjoyed reading this soup of conspiracies and hallucinations… about how government and Baxter made this virus for some insidious malicious purpose… Only America is so insane as to produce degenerate people like you…Keep writing.
Alphonse
April 27th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
If your prepared to die and meet GOD with the holy spirit in your heart already then you will have nothing to fear. They cant take your soul unless you give it to em . Like taking the mark of the beast, which i think is the RFID chip.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:00 am
As Usual, the Haters jumped on the Blog. (sigh)
And as I say to my younger sister when she makes fun of my opinions and advice (when I am only Trying to Help), “we’ll see, You can Thank me later…..” Ha
I’ve got a pretty good track record, like 9 out of 10 Correct, even though she thinks me quite ecentric at times. (not to brag…..tehe)
Karen
April 28th, 2009 at 1:07 am
Guest4112:
Why don’t you stick your finger in a light socket; It might wake you up to reality, so you’ll make better sense. Plus, it might “enlighten you” a little. Sorry
April 28th, 2009 at 1:51 am
This is sooooo funny! Why haven’t you written a book, better still, made a film?
What an imagination! Has no one ever told you that your time to die is written the day you’re born. Live every day as though it’s your last and enjoy it.
Stop worrying about all these paranoid stories. Let’s face it, people who write stuff like this are just as bad as the dark demons of hell that they write about. Spreading panic, doom and gloom.
If you want to read predictions read your Bible, at least the Bible gives us a happy ending.
Get a life.
April 28th, 2009 at 4:41 am
Yeah…the Bible is a great source of reliable information, you f—-morons. You are like the fanatic Muslims with their “word of God” Koran. You are worst than the Pope and all people who in this day and age still live with the mindsets of the people of the Middle Ages.
When the plague used to strike Europe, people walked down the street flagellating themselves, because they thought God was punishing them. Yesterday some moronic rabbi in Israel said Jews and Muslims are outraged and offended that the Swine flu is named after the pig…. And all you idiots who blather all the God-inspired, Bible-vintage, crap on this blog are just like the retarded people of the Middle Ages, the rabbi and his Muslim friends (at least, when Muslims and Jews are not killing each other and ruining the world, they have something in common: their hatred of pigs…). It’s totally insane…
April 28th, 2009 at 4:48 am
Well I’ve read most of these articles, and I don’t know the age group of the folks who wrote these articles. But I am in my late 60s and I think this generation now is in big trouble.
Why are you people so hyped up. Get a life. Fix your country. Do something for your country.
People are not committed any more. their ethical their commitments are not there anymore.
Fear is in people’s hearts wake up wake up.
Larry
April 28th, 2009 at 6:01 am
They Tested SARS before in CANADA. They tested AIDS in USA and exported to africa and INDIA. Now Mexico they are testing swine flu.
Idea is simple. Spread the disease to 3rd world , and all enemy countries and they will beg for help to NWO rulers (jewish cabal).
Jewish cabal(communists) killed 2 million christian russians because they did not agree with them. Same thing will happen in USA. who evere disagree will be killed in many many millions.
They can kill you with disease easily , no need for weapons.
I do not think normal american people can stop them. They killed JFK broad day light. Anyone disagree will be killed either cheney, bush ,clintons or obama. They all in a bind.
The thing is though it is not really 100% jewish even though it run by jewish cabal. They recruited all types of people for this NWO scheme. Once NWO grab full power they will “remove” all gentiles. Period.
NWO is just a mask for real aspiration of jewish kingdom and only jewish people. Islam is created to counter this from the beginning but they lost the real reason why islam is created. Counter jewish evil. Oh well.
It is like this british ruled india beginning with some bought out kings to keep people support initially. Same thing lots of people innocently part of NWO because they think america should rule the world. Nothing wrong with that but it won’t be america anymore.
America is where people individual freedom important than anything else. when america dies , world will die soon.
You can always see hollywood constantly make movies about it by making you prepared instead of shock…so that you all will toe the line of NWO easily.
What is happening to palestenians will happen to americans and the world.
Only country who is victim of jewish evil is russia. They lost 2 million innocent christian russians. They know how big this evil is.
Sooner or later Russia and china say enough is enoug and do pre emptive attack on USA and israel.
That is why jewish kabal want to instal Missile defense system in Europe. it is no against Iran. Iran is nobody. They are basically telling russia be a slave to jewish kabal or exterminated!.
jewish kabal already bought india thru nukes deal. so all in place.
Next big land grab jewish kabal will be in russia.
April 28th, 2009 at 6:16 am
I’m reading what the old timer wrote. Do what for my country? We are nothing but pawns in this game. Whomever owns the money supply, makes the rules! Now they’re killing us with their Beta Test before the real event. In 1976, they forced all Americans to get shots. They stopped at 40 million because more people were getting sick from the shots than they hype of Swine Flu. Look at the Anthrax virus and how they tested squalene on 100,000 Americans, Australians and British. I beg to differ, we have no say in anything. Our politicians are bought and paid for. In this country, the truth can land you in jail with no trial as people try to kill you as in the case of Martin Armstrong. He had no trial and they sent an assassin into the prison to kill him. This country is so far gone that even the Christians have been hoodwinked and hijacked. They’re afraid to tell the truth but the problem is, the powers-that-be know that Christians know that they are lying. There will be a time that even Christians will be a scarce commodity. Get real. As President Roosevelt said, “Nothing the government does is by accident. If they did it, you can bet they planned it that way.” Good day, sir!
April 28th, 2009 at 6:48 am
[...] the conspiracy theorists are claiming the swine flu virus spreading around the world was genetically engineered by [...]
April 28th, 2009 at 7:10 am
Can they make some of this shite that will just kill the niggurs?
April 28th, 2009 at 7:11 am
Maybe we can make some to kill all the Joos, too!
April 28th, 2009 at 7:14 am
Nuke Mexico NOW! Kill the pig-viris and it’s source, the pig-nasty beaners!!!
April 28th, 2009 at 7:14 am
I’ll bet this started at some Mexican donkey show.
April 28th, 2009 at 7:31 am
What??? The WHO has a new album out??? It’s called Pandemic???
I also heard they are going on tour soon. It’s being sponsored by Baxter and the Freemasons.
April 28th, 2009 at 7:36 am
In reply to what you wrote about the whole Nazi, Islamic part.
Its obvious that you really have no clue. Spend some time in Germany and or maybe do real research before you speak. Or easy way, look at what the Jewish community was doing in Germany that Hitler hated versus what the Taliban are doing.
The Jews only wanted to have good life and build and educate and contribute to society. Ask your heart is that so bad? No, but Hitler hated that German people cant have good jobs because of bad Government and he hated the Jews. Hitler acted from hate, not the Jews.
To be more correct, it is the Taliban that are the Nazi’s. They act from hate and intolerance and that believe they are the only ones worthy of life and all else must be exterminated, just like the Nazi’s.
Grow up.
April 28th, 2009 at 8:29 am
NWO Bob: ‘I think it’s time to let loose our new biological weapon’
NWO Dave: You mean the ebola with a 54% mortality rate?’
Bob: ‘Nope.’
Dave: ‘Ooooh then a rejigged Black death type strain with a 30-75% rate’.
Bob :’ Nope.’
Dave: ‘Then it’s bubonic plague I love that. Up to 90% if untreated.’
Bob: ‘Er Nope.’
Dave: ‘Wow Bob we must have something really good ready to go. What is it then that will destroy humanity with as part of evil plan to take over?’
Bob: Umm, actually it’s a really nasty cold. Very debilitating. The masses will need at least 3 days off work to recover in 99% of the cases. Er mwahhahaha!!’
Dave: ‘Bob just fuck off!’
Bob: ‘Mwahahahahahahahaha.’
Dave: ‘No Bob actually FUCK OFF; You’re fired.’
Bob: I’ve been working on a pretty nasty headache virus.’
Dave: ‘OUT!!’
April 28th, 2009 at 8:44 am
hey guys I’m the NWO how are you doing?
April 28th, 2009 at 9:01 am
as this outbreak continues to gain momentum i believe many will start to sober up to the reality of what is happening. the Bible clearly says, “disease will kill 1/3 of all humanity”
Someone earlier brought up the Mark of the Beast, the RFID chip, good call! People will be stupified when conspiracy becomes reality.
I wonder how long it will take for the panic to set in. I am not scared of death, I don’t welcome it as I should have been dead many times over. My life and my family’s are in God’s hands.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
I think you may have a point with your tie to the Baxter crime, news not reporting on it and the sudden arrival of this bird/swine flue variant.
Where you lost me was when you started to turn this into a Jew hating thread.
Too bad because that is going to kill your credibility.
Remove the hate and continue to spread the truth and you will be more successful IMHO.
Crazy guy out…
April 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
are you people for real? if not, the sheer amount of people playing along with this RIDICULOUS idea is impressive. You are all idiots.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Okay, you’re nuts if you believe that this is a beta-test.
But what about the nut jobs at the CDC that drafted the idea below?
How about the wing-nuts that approved the idea for actual implementation?
What about the crazies that actually put up the money for the test?
Not to mention the whack-jobs that actually did the deed?
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) will soon launch experiments designed to combine the H5N1 virus and human flu viruses and then see how the resulting hybrids affect animals. The goal is to assess the chances that such a “reassortant” virus will emerge and how dangerous it might be.
CDC officials confirmed the plans for the research as described recently in media reports, particularly in a Canadian Press (CP) story.
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidr.....brids.html
April 28th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
fail article is fail. get some REAL evidence and learn about genetics before you write this crap
April 28th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
[...] the conspiracy theorists are claiming the swine flu virus spreading around the world was genetically engineered by [...]
April 28th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Wankers!
April 28th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
wankers
April 28th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
You people are insane.
You are actually insane.
You really are insane.
You are actually, really insane.
You really are, actually, really insane.
You are actually, really, really, actually insane.
Tim Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Wait. Just to be sure I understand you. Are you saying that they are insane?
April 28th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
TRIBULATION IS THE BEST SOURCE OF WISDOM FOR MORTALS.
April 28th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
You guys are freakin nuts. Humans and birds have different sialic acid residues that flu can bind too. Guess what pigs have both, and thus the viruses can mix. Meaning….flu with human, avian, and swine elements is not really that surprising. Or you could believe this conspiracy crap. Your choice.
Also I imagine if groups as technologically advanced as these labs were trying to kill us all they would have engineered the virus to resistant to tamifu. Probably would have taken them an extra 15 minutes.
April 28th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH the funniest thing i’ve ever read. i just wanted to do a little research on the swine flu and this shit popped up. you are all fucking lunatics.
April 28th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
This is actually hilarious! This website is hilarious! All you deluded morons think that you know the “truth”. Well as far as I can tell you are all fucking grade A lunatics! The stuff you come up with is ridiculously hilarious. “This doesn’t happen in nature”? Really? Why don’t you fucking educate yourself? If you possessed half a brain stem you would know that of course it bloody well happens naturally. Before you make some moronic comment, like this entire article, do some research into at least some sort of the biological sciences. All your claims are backed by absolutely no evidence. How the fuck can you people believe this bullshit? This just shows that only uneducated morons believe in these conspiracies. Its actually hard for me to convey how hilarious you people are too me! And the funniest thing is you think I’m close minded and deluded!
April 28th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Crawl back into your bunkers, you twits.
You have no real evidence — only the drivel concocted by your own
paranoia. “Chemtrails?” “Bioterrorist Beta Test?” “Rat Poison in the Water?” “Mark of the Beast RFID Chip?”
Oh, please. The only malevolent “chip” here is the one on your shoulders. You people crack me up.
(I have no doubt you will tell me how stupid I am for refusing to believe your crap… I certainly hope you do. I would hate to think I am anything at all like you.)
April 28th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Can anybody tell me if nano-silver can kils these viruses.
April 28th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
An Old book with lots of answers of some things mentioned previously here…..
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/sf.html
April 29th, 2009 at 12:27 am
The one thing I strongly agree with in this article. Is that these types of flu strains don’t happen in nature. what happened? a pig ate the carcass of a bird that died from the avian flu and later was molested by a lonely farmer who then gave the flu to his wife who worked at a supermarket? as far fetched as the article may or may not be, a naturally occurring situation where three flu ’s combine seem ludicrous as well.. everyone should be a little paranoid damn i should have got those stocks in the company that sells that vacine Tamiflu. and the corporate backed cash to fund the new vaccine they will release to combat it in a couple of months.
THINK Reply:
May 5th, 2009 at 9:16 am
What are you stupid?
It’s the flu! Pigs can get it the same way humans can: sneezing, coughing, etc. And people can get it from animals in the same way. Viruses like this cross species when lots of humans and animals live in close proximity (ie. Mexico City).
Also virus can cross their genes when they are in a host. Has been happening on this planet since life started.
Go get an education.
April 29th, 2009 at 2:02 am
This swine flu is a bio-weapon just like the avian bird flu and other man made diseases, the eugenics society has its fingerprints all over this:
http://noworldsystem.com/2009/.....aboratory/
April 29th, 2009 at 2:08 am
TLDR!
April 29th, 2009 at 4:45 am
The virus will mutate into a more deadly within a few weeks. In 1918, the Spanish flu started in the Spring and was pretty harmless until the fall. In the fall it mutated into a more deadly form and killed 40 million+. I think the Spanish flu was a beta test for the next population reducing pandemic which will kill 4-5 billion. Technological advancement has allowed this. We have all been used for this agenda. Virus’s were first seen by a microscope in the 1700’s in pigs ironically. Since then, it could be manipulated. Also, there are no historical records of pandemics/epidemics of flu prior to 1889, which is odd considering there should be 3 per century. Whay has not half of Asia been wiped out by flu in the past. Considerting the Chinese were on the earth first (largest no of people) they seem to have escaped flu!! as have the Indians.
Runtest Reply:
April 29th, 2009 at 6:19 am
Actually this is somewhat correct. I have seen it happen a couple of times in my lifetime. Just look at the “Bird Flu”.
April 29th, 2009 at 5:44 am
I just have to say that I wish someone would shut this pathetic website down. Anyone who believes in this crap, rather than worry about it and bitch about it should just go ahead and put a gun to your head. End it now. We don’t need people who believe in this crap to even take up any more space on our planet. Get a life and quit trying to make so many fall for your stupid stories. Grow up. It’s not the swine flu that is causing panic as much as websites like these trying to put fear into people.
John Staumph Reply:
April 29th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
No, the mainstream media is causing the panic over swine flu, this site is calling it a beta test for what is to come in the future.
I am not sure what it is, but I will say that very few of the people trying to debunk the conspiracy theory actually state any reasons other than “you’re crazy”, etc. I did see a few people actually giving some evidence but most are just “you’re crazy”. I’m sorry, but I need more evidence than “you CT’rs are all crazy” before I believe anyone who gets their news from NWO owned mainstream media.
I will say that you’d have to be an utter fool to believe the mainstream media is telling the full truth about this for one simple reason. So like a few hunderd people tops are dead worldwide and they are talking about locking down and global quarantines because a few people died?
I mean, seriously, who are the ones doing the real fear mongering? The over-dramatization of this flu? That more than anything scientific makes me think it is a conspiracy.
It’s the mainstream media playing this up to be the mother of all disease, when it is clearly not. At least not yet. If 20,000 are dead by tomorrow, and another 100,000 in a week and half, then I might be worried. But a few hundred have died, who is to even say they all have had “swine” flu and not something else?
I am not worried at all about swine flu, other than the government possibly using this as a reason to implement more control over society (forced vaccinations, martial law, etc)
THINK Reply:
May 5th, 2009 at 9:30 am
I need at least a little evidence to even consider this crap…
Every piece of evidence I’ve ever seen on this site is links to other CT websites that don’t provide any sources or evidence ether (or just provide more links to CT sites).
And of course the mainstream media doesn’t tell the whole truth. Everything/Everyone has biases and stories are tailored to those biases. Conspiracy Theories included.
Title of article “Swine flu ATTACK likely beta-test”
How more bias can you get than that?
sandy Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 7:06 am
ever hear of freedom of speech? oh, I forgot, liberal twits only shred the Constitution, they don’t read it….
April 29th, 2009 at 5:44 am
It ain’t so! WHAT EVER IT IS — IT AIN’T!!
AND IF YOU PRESENT ANY EVIDENCE — IT AIN’T EVIDENCE — YOU’RE STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!!
At least I admit to being C R A Z Y and if you disagree with me than YOU are a WHAT YOU ARE!
Now if I could just get a high level decison making job at the CDC and get access to the budget, I would be with MY PEERS and none would notice me!
Like my new suit? It’s a $2,000.00 designer model that YOUR tax money paid for ASSHOLE!
ha ha ha ha!!!
Runtest Reply:
April 29th, 2009 at 6:17 am
It ain’t so! WHAT EVER IT IS — IT AIN’T!!
AND IF YOU PRESENT ANY EVIDENCE — IT AIN’T EVIDENCE — YOU’RE STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!!
At least I admit to being C R A Z Y and if you disagree with me than YOU are a WHAT YOU ARE!
Now if I could just get a high level decison making job at the CDC and get access to the budget, I would be with MY PEERS and none would notice me!
Like my new suit? It’s a $2,000.00 designer model that YOUR tax money paid for ASSHOLE!
ha ha ha ha!!!
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Everyone ignore this. The guy can not even spell decision. Just look above. I copied it so it could not be changed. By the way, to the guy that typed this up. The best way to mess with conspiracy theorist. Is to try to present something against what they are saying in the way of misinformation. Also most designer “wear” not suit (friggin hillbilly) cost more than $2000. Also if you were with the NWO you would be presenting the cost of something in euro not American dollars.
NoBoolSheet Reply:
April 29th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Keep on laughing, idiot. Flu happens. Not everything bad is caused by the government, no matter how badly you want to create a climate of fear in this country. If you get the flu, your designer suit and shitty attitude won’t do shit to cure you.
April 29th, 2009 at 6:04 am
The following attempts to discredit the possibility of man-made virus linking to this article on PP… As for me, I think it is likely man-made.
Is swine flu a bioterrorist virus?
Michael Le Page, biology features editor
“Already, the conspiracy theorists are claiming the swine flu virus spreading around the world was genetically engineered by bioterrorists. The truth is more prosaic: the virus is far more likely to be a product of our lust for bacon than of a hatred for humanity.”
http://www.newscientist.com/bl.....st-vi.html
April 29th, 2009 at 6:05 am
sadly, there is alot of truth in this and if you cannot see that then you are one of the billions that mindlessly follow the media as gospel. Not your fault it was a long and focused effort to control the masses. Try as you might this world as you know it is about to change in a major way and there is no chance of stopping this, as it has to happen to ensure mankinds survival,the math was done years ago and the it totaled to entirely to many people and to little resources, people including myself fornicated far to often and we reproduced like roaches, so buckle up for its extermination time. research and do your best to be one of the survivors,or deny the obvious and be one of the fallen. either way something wicked this way comes. god bless and goodluck
horseshit Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Truth? What truth? This website? HAHAHAHAHA!!! That’s the funniest pile of crap I’ve heard all day. Go jump off a bridge you idiot.
April 29th, 2009 at 6:23 am
Alex. You and your followers are out of your cotton-pickin’ minds.
But keep it up. It’s captivating science fiction, if nothing else.
– GP
Runtest Reply:
April 29th, 2009 at 6:37 am
Agreed.
April 29th, 2009 at 6:38 am
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April 29th, 2009 at 6:43 am
I don’t believe that this is any different from any other sort of flu. Well except this is getting media attention. What better way to plan for an epidemic and see how people react than by saying there is one. All they had to do was give a name to a strand of the flu bug and some common symptoms. I mean common. Anyone with a cough or ache will call the docs now giving the gov. some great info.
April 29th, 2009 at 8:34 am
We just have to recognize that for some people the only way they can go on living is by seeing the world as one big conspiracy in which swine flu is the result of planned greed and evil rather than unplanned greed and stupidity. If they didn’t think that way, their faith in humanity would be destroyed and they would kill themselves. They may be inadequate but we should respect their weakness rather than jeer at it.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:13 am
I take offense to all that is attributed to me. I did not make man in my image (he’s ugly, but woman, I like), but I did not make this pig virus that all my redneck fascists love to ascribe to my plans. For the millionth time, I declare: I did not create the world (let alone in 6 days), nor have I ever made humans from earth or from each other’s flanks or livers… I deny any involvement with the monotheistic crowd of Jews, Muslims and Christians who have been killing each other in my name forever it seems. I did not write the Bible, the Gospels or the Koran or any of these pathetic old wives tales. I have bedded many women, and all ended up losing their virginity… I don’t remember a Mary among them, although Myriam sounds vaguely familiar. She may have been a harlot, but who cares.
These viruses (I do have a doctorate in biology) mutate by themselves and are very promiscuous. Those who attack the Mexicans as being dirty for dying from this infection, while the Americans are the greatest piece of shit on earth because of their healthcare system, are pure racists. They sound just like the Muslims who say that Americans are all sissies and buttfuckers because the AIDS virus came out of their dirty asses.
Get a life and leave me out of it.
God
April 29th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
I think this flu is man made and the government wants that marital law so bad they’d even take lives. this world is a fucked up place. :l I think we should remain optimistic and hope this will end. But it will be hard knowing whats going on in this world.
April 29th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
LOL! This is why I am anxiously awaiting the release of a real pandemic. The herd needs thinning! Far too much idiocy and gullibility in you fools. Now don your foil caps and go hide in the basement!!
April 29th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Flu pandemics have occurred naturally in the past. In 1918-1919 Spanish Flu swept the world, and killed almost 30 million people. What evidence is there to take the possibility of a natural occurrence out of the equation ?? Why do you all jump to conclusions without actually testing and questioning your own theories ?
April 29th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
The Baxter flu was NOT weaponized. That is BULL. It was a sample for research. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/.....o3LbhcA75I
Bayer is a little more questionable, but it was in it to make money. Every corner they could cut, they did, including not screening for HIV. Like that’s new to humanity. HIV is bad, but hell, at least it was actual blood. Did you hear the one about the man in 1850 who fed cows waste liquid in order to produce cheap milk, colored it with plaster of Paris, flavored with molasses and thickened with eggs? Yeah, didn’t think so. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09......html?_r=1
So both examples that this guy uses are bunk. The validity of this website as a news source is questionable. I also like how he’s using it to advertise water filters to protect from poison that the government is pumping into our water supply. Look at all these ads. It’s just another commercial site. A real website to protect against conspiracy would be publicly funded and would not be centered on making money.
Coming from the same guy who said this:
“They add the industrial waste and active ingredient of rat poison, known as fluoride, in your water, causing your brain, liver, and bones to rot and decay. They add mercury, which is as toxic as lead or arsenic, to the vaccines as a preservative, causing autism and sudden infant death syndrome, among several other things. Yes, the government hates you and wants to kill you. Government loves war and death.”
Yeah, you know what else the government did? They added a compound of chlorine to our oceans, which can be broken down in certain circumstances into chlorine itself; chlorine is a highly toxic chemical. They also put oxygen in our air, something which rots our body from the inside out due to a chemical process called oxidation. They produce and sell drugs, any of which can kill you, like aspirin, ibuprofen, and penicillin (which came from a MOLD). ANYTHING can kill you, even WATER, if you eat too much of it.
Another thing: he doesn’t cite sources. At all. Except to provide links to things already in the website. No press release of the incident, no nothing: “just google it” he says. What are you afraid of sir? That you’ll be proved wrong? Sure, the press isn’t trustworthy but they do report on things. You know, they do let us know that things are happening in the world. You just use mass speculation to twist things to your own malevolent ends and drive traffic to your website.
Stay away from this whackjob. Also, if this comment is deleted or otherwise censored, it will further serve to prove my point. This guy wouldn’t be any better than the big corporations or government if he didn’t let this comment stay.
NoBoolSheet Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
You are so right. There is much money to be made from mass panic. People are paying up to 30 bucks online for common dust filter masks you can get at the hardware store for 2 dollars.
Profiteering from other people’s ignorance and fear is the shittiest possible way to do business.
April 29th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
People jump to conclusion because its more fum and exiting to believe in a conspiracy theory. Get a life and get over it. It’s a flu strain. Been happening for years people.
April 29th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
here is the cause…or source of the swine flu. dont be fooled http://didyou.com/swineflu.html
azderik Reply:
April 29th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Hahaha! That’s a good one Didyou!
April 29th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
WOW! someone wiki this. Swine Influenza is FLU. It (like all flus) will mutate. This is VERY common. Just like EVOLUTION… things EVOLVE. I have never laughed so hard in my life. I live in San Diego, and we are right on the border to Mexico. We have a few cases, but hell, anyone with a cough with your site’s attitude will think that it’s swine flu!! This is silly. Seriously. Are you guys on drugs or something? Ask a doctor, not some nutjob on a website. Or, better yet, RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF. Don’t be a sheep. Sheeple are idiotic. And a few of you are acting this way right now. If you look at the numbers, NO ONE has died in the US with this flu, and the only reason people are dying in Mexico is- have you ever been down there? no clean water, barely any clean doctors/clinics and if they have any money at all they aren’t going to go to the doc for a cough or a little vomiting. If you are this worried, go to your doctor and get a flu shot. and if you think the dang flu shot will ‘make you die’ I can tell you my husband has had to take one every year as a US Army soldier… And if he’s still kicking (and severely in shape to boot) then you got nothing to worry about. Get outside and walk, get on a treadmill and take vitamin c. you’ll be fine. just relax. jeeze.
This place is like a loony bin! lol.
April 29th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Cuckoo cuckoo cuckoo … I have seen the enemy, and the enemy has quite simply lost his grip on reality. You folks are panicked idiot fools. But by all means carry on with your freakish selves. Beta test … whatever.
April 30th, 2009 at 1:40 am
Bucky Badger is right, you people need to go out more. So even if maybe the ‘powers that be’ DO get up to all shady sort of things – who honestly cares? You can’t change it and you never will. Why don’t you people put down you’re clearly mind-rotting drugs, get jobs, and stop whining on and on forever about some long-shot conspiracy. I can’t even stop typing, some of the people on this site do my head in.
I’ve read enough comments from IDIOTS declaring that they have removed their kids from school, won’t be leaving the house, and all other sorts of paranoid BS and why? becuase some loser on a website reckons the powers that be might be behind this. He’s just one guy for god’s sake, if you’d rather follow some crack pot rather than just get on with your life like everyone else that’s fine, but dosn’t that make you the sheep? After all, sheep spend their days confined along with some other sheep, following commands from one man. (the shepherd)
Now don’t gt all childish and point out any spelling mistakes i’ve made, and feel free to moan about me because i’m not coming back on this site because it’sa pile of SHITE. you sad, lonely individuals, yeah “viva la revolution” you sad c*nts.
April 30th, 2009 at 4:09 am
Like, “hahahaha” said, viruses mutate. It is completely feasible that a flu virus with human, avian, and hog DNA could pop up naturally.
But hey, some people need a reason to panic. Then, when they go on the internet and post fabricated, hyped-up conspiracy theories, it makes them feel like they’re doing something important.
April 30th, 2009 at 4:28 am
What the FUCK are you imbeciles nimming on about?
OH NOES! SOME POOR DARKS DIED HALFWAY ROUND THE WORLD, SHUT ALL THE SHOPS SO WE DON’T CATCH IT.
NIMNIMNIMNIMNIMNIM…… etc….
Wankers.
April 30th, 2009 at 6:29 am
WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP. YOU GUYS ARE FULL OF SHIT. BIO ATTACK. YOU WHO CREATE THIS PAGE ARE PIGS, AND SHOULD BE PUNISHED FOR SPREADING LIES.
ASS HOLS
April 30th, 2009 at 6:44 am
HAHAHA! What a crock of shit!
April 30th, 2009 at 6:47 am
I’m counting down the days until the new transformers movie comes out. It’s gonna be awesome!
April 30th, 2009 at 7:04 am
I was directed to this site thru a link on a reputable news site, and if I do say so, this site is a collection of the looniest crap I have ever seen. It’s a virus, these outbreaks happen every few decades. It’s normal. But the geeks, nerds, dorks, and twits who inhabit these conspiracy sites are so dopey they think there is some grand plan to kill millions of people on purpose. You dorks need to get a life.
April 30th, 2009 at 7:12 am
Wow. The dingo ate your brains. You people are suffering from serious paranoid delusions, I bet the CIA is following you and just last month you were abducted by a UFO.
April 30th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Just to let everybody know, there is so much scientifically wrong with this article it shouldn’t have even been published. Virus’ mutate at a very high rate, which is how we got this virus. There is also something called viral transduction, during which genes from one species can put put into another species, possibly resulting in the swine flu virus, NATURALLY. Name the last time somebody died from a flouride overdose from drinking water. Not water poisoning, flouride overdose. Hmm, how about… it has never happened. Yes, if you eat rat poisoning, it may be present, but in a MUCH HIGHER CONCENTRATION. Anything can kill anything in the right concentration. Flouridated water is not dangerous. At all.
Also, why would a bioterrorist release a test virus? It would only prompt governments to prepare for a pandemic more, making their real virus less effective. With the goal of infecting the U.S., a terrorist would release it in the US, not Mexico, where many people from the US aren’t going to because of violence. They’re avoiding Mexico, and any small amount of research would show that right now.
Check your facts before posting some complete B.S. like this. Or take a middle school bio class.
April 30th, 2009 at 7:38 am
wow! i hope you don’t ever have kids; you are a complete idiot.
April 30th, 2009 at 7:39 am
Well, looks like this has been proven not to contain Avian elements. Looks like you’re whole hypothesis isn’t credible after all.
Who would have though, Alex Jones not credible. Go back to reptilianism, that was a good laugh for everyone!
April 30th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Where do you people find your information. I don’t understand how you can blame everything on the government. I mean honestly how many times has something like this happened and been the governments fault, get a grip. Relax have some water, don’t play with the pigs, simple as that. It’s natue, who in gods name would use swine flue as a bio terror? They have plenty of worse things they could use.
April 30th, 2009 at 7:44 am
Also.. It just seems that American People LOVE TO WORRY. I don’t understand why. Maybe because people like you need something in life that your missing out in. Please get a grip. Even if it was bio, don’t spread this shit, you’ll just make matters worse.
April 30th, 2009 at 7:49 am
This is the biggest bullshit I’ve ever heard.
Seriously, bacterias and viruses EVOLVE over years.
Are you going to just find somebody to blame on the natural disaster every time it happens?
This dude is crazy enough to say Tsunami was a terrorist-intended act.
Yeah…Like those fucking terrorists even got any money or fund to do such shit when they can’t even afford to replace their old AK rifles.
Those fucking bastards are busy hiding their asses from the world.
April 30th, 2009 at 7:51 am
and just one more comment.
I suggest that you go see some psychiatrist or someone who does that sort of things.
April 30th, 2009 at 7:56 am
I would like some of what you people are smoking. This was a great read. I needed a few laughs this morning.
kk Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
man i love this country.
what a joke.
April 30th, 2009 at 7:57 am
I am a full fledged member of the Libertarian Party….Ron Paul got my vote…I don’t trust the government, but the “author” of this article sounds like a ranting fool~~
Lets see, we are gonna do a “beta test” in the US by dropping off some swine flu in Mexico. Brilliant. So are they trying to take our 2nd amendment rights or kill off some of the population…you say one then the other.
Then just for the hell of it, you throw in fluoride and childhood vaccinations. Fluoride was introduced into water many years ago when people didn’t use fluoridated toothpaste and many didn’t have access to a dentist. Childhood vaccines are safe and effective for 99.9% off kids. And there isn’t yet enough proof to fully blame the shots for autism.
You are a dip-shit who make those of us who want to get rid of gov’t control and gov’t bloat. You are the example they use when saying that they need to provide more control and regulation over the citizens because the citizens are illogical, stupid, alarmist, and just don’t know any better. Shut-up and let those who have a handle on REALITY tackle this.
nh Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 8:40 am
.. well said.
April 30th, 2009 at 7:58 am
Take off the tinfoil hat, go outside and please jump off a bridge.
April 30th, 2009 at 8:06 am
THIS IS NOW FEATURED ON CNN.COM
“11. Could this new swine flu virus have been manufactured by bioterrorists?
That’s the theory on some conspiracy theorists’ Web sites. But experts don’t believe it.
“If you were a bioterrorist you’d want to create something that’s a lot more deadly than this,” said Dr. Gerald Evans, an associate professor of microbiology at Queen’s University in Canada. “The problem with influenza is that the second you put it into people, it replicates and mutates very quickly. Even if you created the perfect bioweapon, within a few generations of transmissions, it wouldn’t do what you planned for it to do.”"
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH.....index.html
April 30th, 2009 at 8:14 am
If this situation was meant to eliminate people, why there are more deaths here in Mexico than the USA?, let´s remember there was this virus in 1918, 1930 was detected and I think 1975 or so, in those times they didnt have this technology.
What I think is too much coincidence is that this virus started weeks before Mr Obama came to Mexico for a visit, now they are blaming a pork factory in La Gloria but some other´s say it didn´t start there, even 2000 people got the same infection with fever.
I dont understand why there is no vaccine yet, just some antibiotics; it is strange that airplanes companies didn´t close as you need just one person to infect other´s, it is strange porcine and birds are mixed in this virus; now who know is this virus is what they say it is, maybe is some kind of other kind of virus, at least 160 people died in MExico , I dont buy this, I do think there many many other´s and will be, as this seems like a pandemic system.
There is the news of 6 people infected in Spain, and Cuba and Argentina suspended their flights; if we think this comes from terrorism, let´s ask who paid those scientists or those people who did it, who is behind all this, and I want to ask if someone think there is a relation between this “pork” virus and the meaning of pork in Jewish and Muslim religions?
thanks; ROBERTTTTTTT
April 30th, 2009 at 8:38 am
This is the stupidest thing that I ever read in my life.
April 30th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Wow… I got here through a CNN link?
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH.....index.html
Quote:
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11. Could this new swine flu virus have been manufactured by bioterrorists?
That’s the theory on [link]some conspiracy theorists’ Web sites [end link]. But experts don’t believe it.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:00 am
I am part of the government plan that you are talking about, but I have to say that you have it wrong. First, we are not trying to rid the world of people as a general principle. We want to eliminate the poor and make the remaining people completely dependent upon us for life. Then we can crush this individualism that has threatened the order that we have worked to create. You want to oppose us? Good, no medicine for you. Or you get a shot that, guess what, has no real medicine in it. Enjoy your placebo as you die. That way, we do not appear to be imposing anything upon you — it is mere coincidence that those that oppose us die. No firing squads, no secret prisons… nothing.
Have you noticed that, despite the fact that all sorts of people have contracted the disease, only the poor of Mexico are dying. We have been using viruses to change the immune systems of the people for decade — since 1973 to be precise. They have no immunity to this virus and will all die. So this is where you are really wrong– this is not a beta test. It will continue to grow until we eliminate the poor and make “the Workers” (our term) dependent upon us for medicines to stay alive.
We have enlisted more than just media. We have abilities to control any Windows based computer in the world, and certain Macs. Linux has hurt our abilities in that arena with their open source platform, so we are looking at infecting the compilers so that you can look at the source code, see nothing wrong, compile your operating system and while you think nothing is wrong, you’ve just created another zombie computer for us. We can send email, post encrypted messages and so on from any computer in the world.
And your little website serves us more than you think. Most people will think you are crazy, so your group will merely remain on the fringe. No real rebellion ever occurs from the lunatics, and your site associates your other wacky theories with this one, so it will never gain traction. Thanks to you, we can now discuss our plans in the open and be largely ignored. Here is our little plan: we do things that seem implausible on purpose, such as using this swine flu to wipe out the poor and blowing up our own WTC towers and slowly create world currency. If we did things that seemed plausible, we would be discovered in no time at all.
The best part of this is that I always wanted to be a fiction writer. All of the shit above was made up with my creative imagination. If you believed any of it, you should be on thorazine. It is easy to conjure up paranoid conspiracy theories all day. The sun is a big camera placed in the sky by the NWO to watch you wherever you go, so your only safe place is in a cave. lol. We rewrote history books to make you think that the sun had been around forever, but in fact, it is only 100 years old. This shit is fun. Maybe some day you will all be in a cave, watching a small fire burn while wondering if the new world order has somehow poisoned it with mind-control agents that become activated with fire.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:14 am
You are all morons. Good lord.
Ta Da Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Well I read all of this. Congratulations you all have opinions and few of you agree.
IMO The world will definitely not end in 2012. The flu is an unstable rapidly mutating virus (of which there are already thousands of known strains) that coupled with bacterial infection can kill. Also people in power don’t hate us they just don’t care about us…. Do you care about all the yeast which were killed to make the bread you feed your family with? No because your family still gets to eat. Most individuals are Good-natured or at very least do what they feel is right, so the likely hood of a pandemic or a another holocaust or whatever you are truly afraid of will be unveiled/forewarned by much more than a new flu strain or even a “Black Muslim President”. The second they try to take away 2nd amendment rights there will be another civil war. Lastly people who are incapable of connecting dots from A-Z are just as bad as people who draw lines straight from A to Z based solely on some shit they read on the internet. Face it our world is a scary place, move on with your life and do it quickly you’ll all die soon enough.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:29 am
CCN got me here….damm I didnt know there was so many douchebags….specially the [post before me…..wow stop smoking pot!
April 30th, 2009 at 9:35 am
This was a very poorly-written article. The authors casual attacks and defensive posture make it impossible for a non-believer to open their minds to this possibility. No one is going to listen and take this seriously if we cannot put together a cogent, adult-sounding article that doesn’t call the readers moron or Nazis…
April 30th, 2009 at 9:36 am
You guys are idiots.
Of course the government is behind it. They’ve been developing new viruses for years and illegally experimenting on US citizens. They use our own pets and livestock to infect us.
They kidnap people and use them for weapons research.
They have cameras and microphones set up in all of our homes.
The US government puts chemicals in our drinking water to control our minds.
They’ve been stealing my thoughts for years.
Of course the US government wants all of its citizens dead. It would make it a lot easier to control a country with no people.
I’m loading up on guns and ammo and hiding in my basement. I now only eat animals I capture and drink only my own urine. I’ll see some of you on the other side of the apocalypse.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Greetings conspiracy theorists!
I am a virologist and would like to point out some factual inaccuracies in your reporting.
First off, your claim that “these things don’t happen in nature” is completely incorrect. These things happen in nature constantly. And by things, I mean the mixing of influenza virus gene segments to create new reassorted viruses that can then go on to cause pandemics within naive populations. Influenza virus possesses 8-10 gene segments- this is unique because the segments must be packaged together into a virion to be infectious. When 2 influenza strains infect the same cell they can swap segments to make complete and novel viruses. Pigs are an excellent mixing vessel for these reassorted viruses because they possess both the receptors for binding avian-type influenza viruses and the receptors for binding human-type influenza viruses; thus 2 viruses (1 avian, 1 human) + 1 cell = new virus. Happens all the time actually, but not every reassortant is viable or infectious. This swine virus just so happens to be. No conspiracy, not lab created, just nature and people living far too close to animals.
As for Mexico being the “starting point” of the “beta test”, viruses like these often arise from areas where there are too many people/livestock crammed into the same living space. It has nothing to do with race, creed or money, just space. The last 3 major pandemics that have occurred (1918, 1957, 1968) all came from regions of Asia- again too many people/livestock- and surely you remember the SARS corona virus outbreak which originated in Hong Kong. That a pandemic flu virus would come from Mexico is unexpected but most certainly not surprising. Same conditions.
And finally, there is no vaccine yet because it take MONTHS to scale up production of vaccines for influenza viruses (even for seasonal flu vaccines). This is because we grow the vaccines in the best culture medium we have for it- eggs! Eggs are delicate and must be quality controlled and quantities are limited. We aren’t talking about some synthetic vaccine, we’re talking about a live vaccine that requires growth and inactivation. It takes time.
Sooo, with all that being said, calm down, don’t panic, no one is trying to “beta test” anyone.
Happy hunting,
Scientist
whoadude Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
wow man, way smart. i’m with the ‘Scientist’ on this one
nh Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 7:18 am
…. but his explanation makes too much sense!
Scientist Reply:
May 1st, 2009 at 10:45 am
Actually, I’m a ’she’
April 30th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Its funny you all talk about conspiracy theorists and such, leaving comments about how educated you really are, with fact about poisons and chemicals. You all seen half smart! you actually can use a computer to look up facts and theory, but I think you googled wrong and therefore got your brain googled in the process. I dont believe in medication for problems that normal people can take care of on thier own, but some of you need to be on meds. I expecially like the ones who end thier comments with church and Ive found god and truth..If anything is a conspiracy, church would be one of them..you should use your so called education and do something good with it instead of babbling about shit that you read off the web created by some wack job. I work for the Government and its fuckheads like you that we put in mental facilities
April 30th, 2009 at 10:02 am
this was truly comical
April 30th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Ouh I hope it is a man made virus that genetically targets all the illegal Mexican immigrants who are fucking up the US economy.
April 30th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Generally I find conspiracy theroist articles interesting reads and at the least comical but this one is beyond stupid.
Where did the 4th virus come from and what is it. Ive heard of avian, swine and human. Miraculously mutated?! Convienant. Would it have been so miraculous 20, 30, 100 years ago or 100 in the future? No matter what or when it would be just as miraculous which isnt so much a miracle as you play it out to be. Avian to swine to human; swine to avian to human.
Maybe its a government conspiracy to wipe out conspiracy theorist. Maybe this vaccine that you all speak poorly of actually protects from this manufactored flu and the government knows that conspiracy theorist will theorize against it therefore avoiding any “vaccine” for fear of … whatever you fear from the government. That makes about as much sense as this theory so why not.
And for you conspiracy theorist that still believe in god and jesus christ?? really? Organized religion is something i thought you would have crossed off well before you started to theorize about government conspiracies.
The problem with conspiracy theorist is that you are never consistant. Even this article bounces around entirely too much. NWO, governments, corporations all put into a blender and put on puree to produce a mix of piss and shit that no one can really follow but can spark new and exciting personal fantasies to share with other like-minded simpletons. You claim to think outside the box revealing flawed societies and governments but by staying outside the box arent you just living within another box? Maybe a box someone else created for their own benefit. Again, youre inconsistant.
Nick Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:25 am
+1
Christian Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
I think I love you.
April 30th, 2009 at 10:38 am
It’s not the bird flu, swine flu, Ebola, AIDS, or any other virus that’s going to exterminate human race. Your common garden variety human STUPIDITY, on the other hand, seems a safe bet.
ryan Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:25 am
this made me lol. It’s sad but true.
April 30th, 2009 at 10:41 am
I’m confused. The majority of you regulars here say to the rest of us and the world to ‘open your eyes and think for yourselves!”, which is fine, and good advice, but then in the same post say that it’s all God’s plan and the Lord will return etc etc. Blindly following old story books makes you as bad as the people who blindly follow Fox News. I did not expect to find a bunch of blind followers on a conspiracy site. I say to you, open your eyes and think for yourselves.
ryan Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Are conspiracy theorists new ? Blaming the problems of the world on sources that are created and almost mythical is not new. The fact is that it is the human condition to try and explain what we don’t understand. There are two ways we explain what we don’t understand
1) we conduct research by creating a hypothesis and TESTING the hypothesis we then use the data from the tests to draw conclusions or perhaps design new experiments to explain the problem further. This is the method in which modern science follows, and it seems to work well if you care accept modern technologies as proof of this.
2) The other way we explain what we don’t know is a much older method. We theorize and fabricate explanations through mythologies and stories. We create stories and mythologies and use them to explain the world around us. This mechanism helps us quell our own fears of the unknown, and is very effective at doing this. Because you don’t have to support your data with hard evidence that can be TESTED reliably over and over again it is easy to explain the world with the second method.
People believe in an evil shadow government because it actually makes them comfortable. The world has problems no matter who is causing it, and this makes people afraid. Whether you believe that a shadow government or other conspirator is the cause of the worlds problems or you believe that the worlds problems are caused by uncertainty and conflict you are still scared by the worlds problems. The difference is that when you create a single central enemy it makes it much easier to focus those fears and manage them. This is why people create conspiracies. It is a coping mechanism that simplifies the problem and their fears.
So who was the original evil conspirator before the NWO or illuminati or what have you ?
THE DEVIL! (at least in western cultures). Before we would blame the problems on our modern conspiracies we blamed them on the oldest conspiracy of them all. There is a halfhuman half goat that hates us and causes all of our problems
April 30th, 2009 at 11:11 am
HEY! CNN HAS REFERENCED THIS PAGE IN THEIR HEALTH SECTION AS A
“CONSPIRACY THEROY WEBSITE”
April 30th, 2009 at 11:23 am
As a biologist… I have to say this is the biggest pile of bullshit I’ve read.
Take off the foil hat and step out into the bright sunny world, it isn’t as scary as you think
April 30th, 2009 at 11:32 am
this is so paranoiac
it would be a great article about all that shipping flu stuff and all. but the tone…. cmon 
“you must open your eyes!” “the government is out to kill you!!!!!!!!!” it’s just too hard to look seriously to this.
and that he closed guantanamo prison 
well, bush would have done the same if it wasn’t the end of his cadence. cause there were protest in almost every country of the world and political leaders were all like: cmon, let’s close the damn thing 
obama didn’t accomplish anything important…. oh, wait – he bought a dog 
however i don’t like obama. i think he’s got all this appreciation and all for nothing, cause it seems that people are thankful for him as if he revived economy, brought peace to the world and launched men to mars. all he did is that he got elected AND that at the same time he’s a balck guy. but it’s not his achievement. the people elected him, and all he did was saying: vote for me
April 30th, 2009 at 11:34 am
The only danger to the human race are the idiots who believe this garbage. You people are pathetic and brainless. The worst part is, you *think* you know more than everyone else. Try graduating from high school before you post stories like this crap.
April 30th, 2009 at 11:43 am
You guys are getting some negative buzz on NJ.com:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.s.....lases.html
April 30th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
NWO Bob: ‘I think it’s time to let loose our new biological weapon’
NWO Dave: You mean the ebola virus with a 54% mortality rate?’
Bob: ‘Nope.’
Dave: ‘Ooooh then a rejigged Black death type strain with a 30-75% rate’.
Bob :’ Nope.’
Dave: ‘Then it’s bubonic plague I love that. Up to 90% if untreated.’
Bob: ‘Er Nope.’
Dave: ‘Wow Bob we must have something really good ready to go. What is it then that we will destroy humanity with as part of evil plan to take over?’
Bob: Umm, actually it’s a really nasty cold. Very debilitating. The masses will need at least 3 days off work to recover in 99% of the cases. Er mwahhahaha!!’
Dave: ‘Bob just fuck off!’
Bob: ‘Mwahahahahahahahaha?’
Dave: ‘No Bob seriously, FUCK OFF; you’re fired.’
Bob: I’ve been working on a pretty nasty headache virus or a tummy ache?’
Dave: ‘OUT!!’
April 30th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
YESSS!!! BRING ON THE NWO!!!!! ALL OF YOU WILL BE SLAVES!!!!!! YOU WILL SERVE THE ALL-POWERFUL NWO!!!!!! MU-HU-HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
I’m still looking for an answer to the question of how 12 old illuminati men in robes are going to enslave the entire world. Since they would need actual PEOPLE to get on board with their NWO plan, I’m curious as to how they will convince your neighbor to be in the NWO while you, the conspiracy theorist, are thrown into jail and given an injection of a deadly virus. How did they convince the soldier to throw you in jail? How did they convince the nurse to inject you with a deadly virus? How did they convince the scientists to develop the deadly virus? AD NAUSEUM…..
WHERE WILL THEY GET THE MANPOWER IT WOULD REQUIRE TO HATCH THIS DIABOLICAL SCHEME???
Will one of you idiots please stand up and give me an intelligent response to this question???
Walter Five Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
I’m a 19 year member of the Ordo Templi Orientis… you’d think by now they would drop me a letter or something, and tell me where to sign up, and what they want me to do!
JTCoyote Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
You obviously didn’t make the cut as regards their “great purpose,” Walter… therefore you will remain merely a useful minion instead…
JTCoyoté
“Every man has a property in his own person.
This nobody has a right to, but himself.”
~John Locke
April 30th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Yes, this is all a beta test. The real firestorm will come when the Umbrella corporation releases the virus in its true form, and everyone becomes one of the living dead.
April 30th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
I have a problem with the very first paragraph that says ‘This doesn’t happen in nature.’
Well if any of you paid attention in high school or college biology, it can and does happen in nature, due to the fact that pigs are a sort of natural mixing vessel for human, avian, and swine viruses. Keep in mind the suspected site where the virus originated from was a multinational pig breeding farm, where thousands of pigs are kept in close quarters with one another, manure is kept in lagoon troughs, and the area surrounding the farm is dry and arid, promoting the inhibition of human mucous membranes and the facilitation of disease. Not only that, but a multinational farm (Its part of Smithfield foods) would likely receive imports from other countries, aka Europe, the United States, and Asia.
So when you say this is a man made virus.. In part, it is. From our own irresponsibility of keeping animals in such close quarters to reap profits. As far as saying it was created in a lab to reduce the human population, I would be extremely skeptical.
April 30th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
I have a problem with the very first paragraph that says ‘This doesn’t happen in nature.’
Well if any of you paid attention in high school or college biology, it can and does happen in nature, due to the fact that pigs are a sort of natural mixing vessel for human, avian, and swine viruses.
Keep in mind the suspected site where the virus originated from was a multinational pig breeding farm, where thousands of pigs are kept in close quarters with one another, manure is kept in lagoon troughs, and the area surrounding the farm is dry and arid, promoting the inhibition of human mucous membranes and the facilitation of disease. Not only that, but a multinational farm would likely receive imports from other countries, aka Europe, the United States, and Asia.
So when you say this is a manmade virus.. In part, it is. From our own irresponsibility of keeping animals in such close quarters to reap profits. As far as saying it was created in a lab to reduce the human population, I would be extremely skeptical.
April 30th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Save yourself from the NWO!!!! Grab your gun and shoot your family and then yourself… don’t let them take you alive!!!
Putzes. First: Get Job. Second: Get girlfriend. You will then have what is normally referred to as A LIFE!!!
April 30th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
What an unusual website. Was just researching fluoride and came accross you. Are you communists or fascists? I can’t make out which?
JTCoyote Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Neither, which bespeaks your lack of knowledge…
the main body here are Constitution loving seekers of truth …
JTCoyoté
“It is one thing to show a man that he is in an error,
and another to put him in possession of the truth.”
~John Locke
April 30th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Why was my first comment not submitted?
April 30th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
*This song is playing over and over in my head with respect to this whole ‘Pandemic’
Hey man, please don’t make a sound
Take a look around, can’t you see what’s right in front of you
Aah,
Have a little taste, no more time to waste
You don’t wanna get left behind cause it’s all coming down right now
How hard is it to see
Put your faith in me
I sure wouldn’t want to be praying
To the wrong piece of wood
You should get where you belong
Everything you know is wrong
Come on, sing along, everybody now
God given
And he gives us sight
And we see the light
And it burns so bright
Now we know we’re right
When his kingdom come
And thy will be done
We have just begun
We’re the chosen ones
(I would never tell you anything that wasn’t absolutely true that hadn’t come right from his mouth and he wants me to tell you)
Wait, step into the light
How can this be right?
I’m afraid we’re going to ask you to leave
Guess you cannot win
With the color of your skin
You won’t be getting into the Promised Land
Besides
This is just another case
You people still don’t know your place
Step aside, out the way, wipe that look off your face
We are the divine
Separated from the swine
Come on, sing along, everybody now
God given
And he gives us sight
And we see the light
And it burns so bright
Now we know we’re right
When his kingdom come
And thy will be done
We have just begun
We’re the chosen ones
And he gives us sight
And we see the light
And it burns so bright
Now we know we’re right
When his kingdom come
And thy will be done
And the father and the holy son
We’re the chosen ones
(I would never tell you anything that wasn’t absolutely true and hadn’t come right from his mouth and he wants me to tell you)
horseshit Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
idiot.
April 30th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
You are all victims of your own fear. You think “they” are trying to make you a slave? When you buy into all this flu conspiracy nonsense and panic by taking your kids out of school, avoiding public places, avoiding travel, etc., you might as well hand over all your rights and drive yourself to a concentration camp to report for duty. Wake up and live your life! Don’t buy into it! Go about your business as you normally do, if you get sick you get sick. If “they” really want to kill you you’re dead anyway. No sense living in fear.
April 30th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
This is by far the stupidest pile of horse shit I’ve ever read. Anyone who actually buys this is fuc*in beyond help, stupider than shit.
Tom Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Maybe you should do some research of your own rather than come on here and insult. Alternative media is important, very important, if we are ever to fully embrace what “free press” actually is. You may not agree or even like the content, but please, don’t insult.
Stevo Is Key Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Maybe mexicans should educate more on safe sex with pigs…
April 30th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Damn, I told Jose to wear a condom…
April 30th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Damn, I told Jose to wear a condom… Guess he didn’t listen.
April 30th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Terrorist plit? Gimme a fkin break… Man made? Most likely, where have you been the last 20 years… Media is hyping this shit up so much that it makes me sick.
April 30th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
I dont know why none of my comments are showing up but if you see Jose tell him to wear a condom next time!!!
April 30th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
you freak’n people loosing sleep over this has to be the most hilarious item I have read in months. thanks for the chuckles.
“NWO” and “beta test” …lmao
April 30th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
YOU DO SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINION AS STATED UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT INFACT, STUPID CUNTS SHOULD BE KILLED AT BIRTH.
however you did make one good point…you are not an expert…that was the only good point that you made during the entire piece of shit consipiracy theory that i just laughed my way through.
Firstly I would like to point out…this flouride that is rotting our internal organs and bones…well its put in the water as its a dietary requirement and is extremely beneficial for you in small doses.
Secondly taking a rat to the vaccine….that is the most idiotic thing I have ever read….heres a plan wait for the vaccine to come out and then see the affects….or better yet you should jump off a cliff and not worry about it.
Thirdly…You predicted this shit…yeah right ok heres the prediction there will be a bioterrorism attack probably in 2009……….HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM you could make that prediction every year and look its true…also the 9/11 attack being governmently orchestrated… ill just leave it at that as my grasp of the english language cannot come up with an appropriate insult as none that I know of exist yet that will properly express myself.
ok thats all I have time for at the moment……….did u know that the moon isnt actually a moon its a secret american base so that they can spy on the world….you may as well beleive that if you beleive this asshole!!!
CIAO
April 30th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Where are your sources on any issues you discuss. Please provide the sites for your conclusions.
April 30th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Don’t believe any of this crap. It’s just a flu people, get over it.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Uhhmmm, the regular old seasonal infulenza virus killes 36,000 people in the US every year……that’s about 100 people a day. Why are people so freaked out about the H1N1 virus? Why are we even talking about it? Or, maybe that’s what they want us to do?!
May 1st, 2009 at 5:37 am
This website http://www.swine-flu-tracker.com/ shows you in real time how quickly swine flu is spreading.
rollin09 Reply:
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:51 am
propaganda tracker – everytime there is a hit on that site they can gage where people are in the “buying” of the drama they are selling.
May 1st, 2009 at 11:58 am
They’ve been putting TB into Badgers in the UK for decades now. Then they say – feed the badgers, the badgers come into your garden and then your baby have TB. Much people die from the TB more than the dirty pig flu. Atheisists own TB drug firm, but God will punish them in the end.
May 1st, 2009 at 12:18 pm
I watched this video several weeks ago, woman reporting a trucker carrying bird flu for homeland security. I had a feeling this would get into the population.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSV7jVOjIwQ
May 1st, 2009 at 12:29 pm
My wife rang me from a gas station this morning and told me that she was worried about catching swine flu. I said, ” You’re in Texaco not Mexico for f***s sake.
May 1st, 2009 at 12:52 pm
This is made to kill off some of the population so it will be easier for them to take over when the time is right. If anyone has common sense you will know what im talking about. There is no hope, and nothing we can do but wait for death to come.
They are coming... Reply:
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Yeah, pigs (the animal) are just trying to thin out the human population so they can make their attack and finally control the beef industry. You’ll see, in two years time we’ll all be enslaved by hogs. They’ve been planning it for years.
May 1st, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Time for Ecola-blue and a gas mask and rubber suit. I’ve got one, so I’m ready. Bring it on!
May 1st, 2009 at 6:42 pm
oh jesus christ, what is this crap!!!
what’s even scarier is that people actually believe this..
the dumb are getting dumber.
lord help us.
May 2nd, 2009 at 3:31 am
Thank you, THANK YOU! You have just completely alleviated my fears of swine flu. I mean, if I can laugh so hard about something like this, it can’t possibly be that much of a threat. Thank you. Your paranoid lunatic ravings have put me at ease.
May 2nd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
“Hebrews suffered 6,000,000 deaths to their race. Try upwards of 3,000,000,000+ this time around.”
You’re an idiot. There were only 6,600,000 people on the earth, in 2007. Nowhere near 3 trillion. Nice job pulling numbers out of your ass though.
Was Here Reply:
May 2nd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Replymasta,
I think there was a few more than 6.6 million people on earth in 2007. Maybe about 6.6 million in NYC. I think you forgot some zeros.
Let me try to help you out.
The first comma is thousands, the second is MILLIONs, the third is billions, and the fourth is trillions….
1,000,000,000 = one billion
1,000,000 = one million
1,000 = one thousand
I hope this helps you for the future.
May 2nd, 2009 at 4:42 pm
This was really funny. Thanks for making my day a little bit more wacky.
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:31 pm
One child has died in the States; and that was a two-year-old from Mexico.
You obviously have no idea how vaccines work, but I won’t even bother because you would just deny it.
Nobody in America has died yet, at least no one who got it in America. Mexico has had deaths, but this is to be expected, because their healthcare is worse than ours.
May 3rd, 2009 at 9:04 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
May 3rd, 2009 at 10:42 am
Crazy ideas from crazy people
May 3rd, 2009 at 11:48 am
Wow dude. You are such a retard. A paranoid retard, you should look at facts, not spread your paranoid delusions. The whole “swine flu panic” is blown out of proportion by the media. Not some disease spread by BAX (By the way their stock price barely moved…) to make money. Maybe their are making a vaccine to fight it, they are after all a drug company… they make drugs. But only nineteen people died from this, its just the media is making it a big deal because it is “in style.” You should seek help, you show classic signs of schizophrenic thinking.
May 3rd, 2009 at 4:07 pm
The REAL hidden story is that Obama visited a guy with flu in mexico. Both he and a secret service agent got it. Obama died and is now being portrayed by a body double.
May 4th, 2009 at 5:31 am
You are all fucking nuts there isnt need to worry unless theres over 10000 deaths other wise st fu no1 cares
May 4th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
I wonder when the “real test” will happen? When are they planning it for?
This is all no surprise. God has graciously warned us in the bible that there will be a new world order that rises up and there will be martial law.
For those who do not know Jesus I encourage you to seek Him. He is the only God and being a christian is not about religion, but about a relationship with Him.
It is only those who put their trust in Him who will escape the NWO.
No i’m not a fanatical religious nut. Seek Him and see for yourself.
May 4th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
What’s a conspiracy theory without at least some proof? Check out the CDC’s information and decide for yourselves. Unless you like to read the facts of known Influenza origins and outbreaks, skip it and go to page 3, “Pandemic Virus Recycling”, or further on to “Lack of Evidence for H1 Recycling”. This beta may just be immunization for those that have not yet had H1N1, that is young adults born after 1977.
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/.....5-1013.htm
May 4th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Website didn’t come out right. Should be http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/05-1013.htm
May 5th, 2009 at 3:09 am
eat pig shit and die disinfo agents
May 5th, 2009 at 6:21 am
Great post from someone with a tongue depressor caught in their throat. Get off the meth and get some sleep, or write something intelligible.
May 5th, 2009 at 7:30 am
Let me add that this beta also tests “transmissibility” of the virus, defined as basic reproductive rate > 0 (fact). Considering that this H1N1 has human origin, and that transmissibility to animals (swine) in Canada, lends even more credibility to the theory (fact). A test during warmer and more humid conditions in which sneezes and coughs do not travel as far (fact), also provides an endurance ratio. The link in the previous post provides compelling arguments, and suggests H2N2 might be the real threat to which we have no immunity. By calling this latest round “swine flu”, 50% of the people are convinced of the origin, 25% are undecided, and 25% don’t care. For those paranoid about the link I posted, google… Emerging Infectious Diseases Vol. 12, No. 1, January 2006 by Dr. Walter R. Dowdle.
May 5th, 2009 at 7:33 am
Influenza Pandemic Periodicty, Virus Recycling, and the Art of Risk Assessment”, by Dr. Walter R. Dowdle.
May 5th, 2009 at 8:10 am
During the Avian Influenza hype a few years ago, I purchased three courses (doses) of Tamiflu (Roche) for my family (at $80 per) as well as an ample supply of N-95 masks and gloves. As with all meds, there is an expiration date, and mine is 2010 (fact). I am confident (p>.5) that a percentage of the worlds stockpile of antiviral meds is due for expiration, and that more will need to be produced to meet increased demand and/or re-supply of existing stock. This info is out there somewhere.
May 5th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Now, is anyone willing to test some conclusions based on fact or probability? Of course facts have and will continue to be manipulated, but in todays world of information arguments can be tested.
May 5th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Here we go – There are almost 6.8 Billion people on the earth(fact). The population grows approximately 100 Million per year(fact). How many years of population increase (at present rate), can the earth sustain?(argument) Also, what are the results and inevitable consequences of human over population?(argument) The obvious answer is not we are destroying the earth (argument).
Be reasonable and state some sensible claims.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:57 am
Moving on to a more viable thread. In all seriousness, jeepndesert should rename this website “For Entertainment Purposes Only”.
Laws of physics dictate that all things move toward disorganization, and this is true of viruses. Previous posts mentioned antigenic drift and recombination, which are right on the mark. So question why exact laboratory virus specimans match Influenza samples taken after occurance of the last two flu epidemics. The CDC acknowledges that human negligence is responsible. Where is the outrage? G O N E.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Hello infidels. Yes, we create new pig virus with chemistry kit ordered off of the infidel’s internet. We also make spicy topping for hummos and goat cheese. Very nice. Now you know that Allah (may His name always be praised) loves us and hates infidels and their accursed bar-b-ques.
May 7th, 2009 at 7:16 am
it was said when the whitehouse was built that if ever a black man lived there then pigs would fly and now we have swine flu conspiricy anyone i belive its a bioweapon that was set up by the illuminati
May 9th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Please don’t come out of your e-caves, conspiracy nutters.
Lunatics like some of the commenters here just make problems harder to solve because they obscure the issues with their idiotic “facts”.
Grow up.