Alex welcomes back to the show Catherine Austin Fitts, a former commissioner at the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development in the first Bush Administration. Alex also talks with Ted Gunderson, a former United States Federal Bureau of Investigation agent who believes the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building was destroyed not by a truck bomb, but by a highly classified government pineapple-sized “barometric bomb” that was developed by Hercules Manufacturing in Silicon Valley, California, under a government contract.
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