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The Alex Jones Show – L I V E – July 28th With Dr. Stanley Monteith and Lindsey Williams
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Monday, July 28, 2008
Alex welcomes author and radio host Dr. Stanley Monteith and Lindsey Williams, author of The Energy Non-Crisis, to discuss oil prices and inside information they have been given concerning an expected collapse of the U.S. economy. Williams also details disturbing instances of death threats he has received. Bob Chapman of The International Forecaster also makes an appearance.
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8 Responses to “The Alex Jones Show – L I V E – July 28th With Dr. Stanley Monteith and Lindsey Williams”
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July 28th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
Lindsey Williams, author of The Energy Non-Crisis DVD, says in this interview that he edited the good info out of his DVD and is happy to sell a post 2008 remix version. (a turkey with no stuffing it’s thanks giving day)
He also says he shut his site down.
Something smells – He’s happily selling the 2008 edit DVD, but shut down his whole site? Why?
HTML (web site term) isn’t chiseled into stone – A simple site edit of the ‘naughty bits’ would have made his site as kosher as his new DVD remix.
July 29th, 2008 at 7:56 am
I found Mr Williams maundering,snake-oil patter infuriating to listen to, it was the antithesis of Alex’s info-barrage style.( I swear could hear alex grinding his teeth too) I’m sure it grated on the ears of many a regular listener.
Perhaps someone is feeding the reverend this 50 dollar a barrel fantasy to discredit him. But then again, it is a mad, mad world.
Otherwise the show was fantastic as usual, keep up the good work.
July 29th, 2008 at 9:02 am
The Alex Jones – Lindsey Williams – Bob Chapman – Dr Stan Monteith
Interview of July 28th 2008 can be viewed here: (in 8 parts)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrblDZf1M-4
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July 29th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
There are some things that don´t smell right:
1) If Williams is an enemy of the elite (since he is saying things they do not appreciate) and he is being threatened, would you (as an elitist) actually give him true future data that would only make him get more publicity in the future? Better to give him bad data so that he looks like a clown in the future and any truthful things he said in the past get buried. Would you tell your enemy such information that is so sensitive particularly to your allies such as Saudi Arabia (their country and influence is going to get destroyed)? If the elite does not gain anything from telling this man the truth, why would they tell him (they are not kind or nice)? Could it be that they threatened this man and one of the conditions was spreading this version just to confuse us as they do with so many intelligence initiatives? I could not envision me ever telling my enemies the truth, even if I was so much more powerful then them and giving them the info could not possibly hurt me.
2) The dollar and oil are positively correlated because the dollar is the main currency used to buy and sell oil. So, if you reduce the price of oil to $50, your demand for dollars (for oil transactions) gets cut in more than half. So this would be a negative on the dollar. On the other hand, a lower price of oil would give a break to the US consumer and would probably make the crisis play out over a longer time. The trade deficit gets reduced and this would be dollar positive. They claim that the dollar still crashes. Now, if oil falls they can play the “deflation” card and point to oil as proof even while they keep inflating. They could even reduce rates and it would be easier to manipulate commodities down – at least for a period of time – until the money supply starts showing up in higher prices. I suppose that by reducing oil to $50 they could fool people about the true inflationary rate for more time, but the cost to them is giving up a lot of oil profits (for many years to come) and if the dollar is going to crash anyway (as they tell Williams) not sure 1 or 2 years max more of incremental inflation (relative to the no $50 oil price) would be worth it for them….
3) There is a continuing debate of peak Oil. The two versions are: 1) Peak Oil is being artificially produced to squeeze us (Williams version), or 2) Oil is really running out and Peak Oil is coming. In either scenario, the middle class gets destroyed and we all pay a huge tax to big oil companies and we all suffer. In either of these two scenarios, the whole point of invading the Middle East was to control the oil (either because it is running out, or because you need to control the supply to produce a scarcity – if it is not running out) They have been working on Peak Oil for years. If they open these two new fields, they will not be able to talk about peak oil for many decades. Are they willing to let go of this tax they get (via huge oil company profits and margins)? Besides, if oil is cheap and plentiful, the Middle East is not strategically important anymore: Why bother destroying it or not. Its clear Iran has no Nuclear weapons.. The whole point was controlling the oil availability and being able to determine who gets it. If you own the oil supply and the world runs on oil, then you command the world or have an important advantage. By opening up the oil fields and making it plentiful, oil control would not be so important anymore.
4) Of all the countries that the oil could have appeared in, it turns up in Russia. Now, if Russia is not really playing ball with the U.S. (as it appears), why would the Russians screw themselves by pumping out so much oil as to reduce it to $50 ? They are better off pumping slowly since the difference between $50 oil and $140 oil is probably 500% difference in profits or more! If extraction and depreciation costs are in the range of say $25 per barrel in today’s dollars, at $50 they make $25 a barrel and at $140 they make $155 ! They would also lose on all the other oil they are already pumping by reducing the profit. It just does not make sense to do such a move. The only way this would make sense is that Russians are playing ball and maximizing profits is not the objective. However, remember not too long ago that the large oil company was nationalized versus going to the Rockefellers or Rothschild’s? I can’t remember now… If they are playing ball, would have imagined this nationalization would not have happened… If Russia really has all this oil, they would be much more powerful if each barrel is worth $140 rather then $50. Also, if these oil fields have been in preparation to be able to pump (takes 2 or 3 years at least), is it possible that no rumor has emerged in this amount of time – especially with so many people spooked about Peak Oil? Also, if the Russians or Indonesians actually wanted to flood the world to bring the price to $50 and they know about this field and they have been preparing it, why do they wait until now to say it? Why not before?
5) Then you also have all the profit that the large oil companies will have to give up. True, they could be hedging now at these prices for years to come. However, if such large oil fields are coming, we are talking of cheap oil for decades, not years. So, they might hedge for a few years, but impossible to hedge for 15 or 20 years…. NYMEX only goes out a few years with enough open interest for oil companies to hedge.
6) The US is building military bases in Iraq and does not want to leave. Their plans are clearly not for the short term. These are mega installations that require tons and tons of money and people. If the middle east was going to get destroyed, why bother building this infrastructure. True, Halliburton has made tons of money making them. But, still, so many bases and infrastructure were built there for more than just benefiting Halliburton.
7) Other than the comment from Williams, I do not see any other source of evidence that what he is saying is true. Even though the war in Iran has not happened, it does not seem that this has not occurred because Bush does not want it that way. There must be resistance in part of the elite (part wants it and part does not want it). If everyone in the elite knows that oil was going to $50, why bother with Iran? OK, you might say, wars are very inflationary and profitable. This is true. However they can still make war some other place that would have a strategic objective (other than oil) in which they could achieve a better outcome for themselves. Clearly Iran is only interesting because of oil and if oil goes to $50 who gives a damn about invading it? If oil is going to $50, let them destroy themselves.
I will continue to think about this, but these are some of the strange or contradictory implications. It is true that they have moved oil up and down before. However, in this instance they would move it down significantly for a very significant number of decades. $50 oil is like $25 dollar oil in 2005 since the dollar has been devalued by like 50% since. Once these fields appear, the only constraint to cheap gas is refining capacity. What would the next excuse be to bringing it up to $140 (in today’s dollars)?
July 29th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
I listened to Williams on the Jeff Rense show a few nights ago, and he said the same thing there, that he was to “Shut up or face the consequences” to paraphase. At the urging of Rense, he called his petro contact back and asked what he could tell people, and the guy actually gave away the game plan in a rough outline. Williams said that he was only allowed to tell some parts of it, but to me it seemed to be pretty much what to expect over the coming 12 months. At the end of the show, Williams said he had a new DVD that outlines the coming 12 months and what he was “allowed” to tell, and that you could, of course, buy it. It made no sense to me. Why threaten this guy with annihilation and then let the cat out of the bag! I think Williams is being played like the classic patsy. A disinformation spigot, spewing the typical corpgov lies.
July 30th, 2008 at 8:13 am
One more thought:
One of the key points the “contact” makes is that by taking oil to $50, they will economically destroy the Middle East. So, war with Iran would be unnecessary. But, can you really destroy the Middle East with $50 oil?
Lets see if this makes sense:
The average price of NYMEX crude was about $40 in 2004, around $50 in 2005, $65 in 2006 and $70 in 2007.
Even allowing for inflation and for a substantial increase in the Middle East government budgets, I VERY much doubt that at $50 they would get destroyed. It was under $50 just a few years ago… In fact, in 2001 it was at an average price of $22 dollars and the average for 2002 was $25 and $30 for 2003. Adjusting for inflation (say at 7% from then to now yearly) the past prices in current dollars would be: 2001=$35, 2002=$37, 2003=$42.
So, the Middle East was able to survive for 3 years without collapsing at prices that were below $50 dollars ($50 at current value). In fact, at these prices, they still were able to invest some money into the Treasury bonds and other US Paper assets.
Why would they collapse?
Maybe if oil fell to $25 or lower at today’s dollars we might be able to suspect some real pain. But at $50 at today’s dollars, it does not seem a collapse would occur. We could see pain, suffering, unhappiness, but collapse. I doubt it seriously.
August 4th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Value of the dollar.
In the year 2000 I paid 9.40 N.kr for $1,
now I have to pay 5.14 N.kr.
November 20th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Not that any of you will read this, but darn if Mr. Lindsey wasn’t dead on. A life of delusion and anger at the messenger based on a lifestyle of Laziness and lack of intellectual savvy is Exactly WHY we are here in this situation now.
We now owe Mr. Williams an apology and I suppose it is about time to pull your heads out of the sand and wipe the snyde snickers off of your faces.