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The Internet as You Know It Will Cease to Exist
Once Upon a Time…
Saturday, Nov 7th, 2009
Hey, relax. It’s not going to be the end of the world — but as my headline says, in time it may be the end of the internet as you know it.
The internet chapter of the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, a secret copyright treaty whose text Obama’s administration refused to disclose due to “national security” concerns, has leaked. It’s bad. It says:
* That ISPs have to proactively police copyright on user-contributed material. This means that it will be impossible to run a service like Flickr or YouTube or Blogger, since hiring enough lawyers to ensure that the mountain of material uploaded every second isn’t infringing will exceed any hope of profitability.
* That ISPs have to cut off the Internet access of accused copyright infringers or face liability. This means that your entire family could be denied to the internet — and hence to civic participation, health information, education, communications, and their means of earning a living — if one member is accused of copyright infringement, without access to a trial or counsel.
Doctorow has pulled out two additional provisions, which are similarly bad. (On the first point above, I’m not at all sure that Doctorow’s argument regarding Flickr, YouTube and Blogger necessarily follows from the preceding sentence, although I certainly understand his reasoning. In any case, the provision is still remarkably bad. It’s also extremely vague: what precisely does “proactively police” mean and require? Perhaps it’s spelled out in the full document. But unquestionably very bad.)
Over the last several years, we’ve all heard claims like the following very often. I state it in general terms, to try to capture its various iterations. But you’re all familiar with how it goes in essence: “The truly great thing about the internet is that it means tyranny will never succeed the way it could in the past. Almost everyone will have access to information about everything! The people are empowered as never before. Despotic, authoritarian government is therefore consigned to the dust bin of history.” Et cetera, and so on, and you can even put whipped cream and a dozen cherries on top of that.
Only a cursory review of history would indicate that claims of this kind are offered with deadening regularity. Every new invention will change things forever! Each significant development means that life will never again be the same! In the area of recent technology alone (recent in historic terms, if not in the spans of time most people seem capable of retaining, which reach approximately three months max), Life and The Whole Universe were permanently altered, like, forever, man, ‘cuz of the radio, then teevee, then cable teevee, then VCRs, then digital, then blahblahblabbityblah … and then … TA DA! THE INTERNETZ!
Please. Psychology, human nature and, more particularly, the dynamics of power and social organization alter only over very, very long periods of time. In certain respects, they don’t change at all. A few of us might hope they would change and that entirely new ways of interrelating and organization would be found (see, “Contemplating a Different World“), but that’s a very long-term project. I mean, long-term.
And to circle back to this particular example, if you understood the possibilities that might be realized by the internet, do you seriously think those people and interests possessing the most power and wealth did not? Yes, we’re all special and unique and all that keen stuff, but the ruling class is people, too (revolting thought, I understand, but also true). And the ruling class is not stupid. It is certainly not stupid about this kind of thing. So our betters will do everything in their power to harness and redirect every advance to their own purposes. Again, consult history. This is always the pattern.
Some of the comments to Doctorow’s post are intriguing. Here’s one that I thought cleverly captured part of the forces operating here:
Look folks, if this copyright treaty means protecting Mickey Mouse from unauthorized reproductions, then it’s a small price to pay to forever risk losing access to civic participation, health information, education, registration and renewal of government documents, global communication, access to government, weather and traffic, emergency service information, freedom of speech and assembly….
Obeisance to the Mickster is an eternal value. I mean, dude, eternal.
But here’s the good news. Just as claims that the invention of the globbekgortz will catapult us all into the gabillionth dimension are overblown, so too predictions that this trade agreement, as abominable as it appears to be, will cause all the universes to self-destruct within the next few seconds go just a tad too far. Just a tad, you know? Here’s a comment that speaks to that point:
OH FOR CRYING OUT LOUD PEOPLE!!!
Just open your wireless port, call it parasite.net, and then set yourself up as an ‘ISP’ with an FTP, web server, torrent tracker, etc. If you can convince enough people in your area to create access points and mirrors of the content we’ll eventually cut out the telecoms and have a truly distributed data and communications network. Isn’t that right Cory?
This might be rephrased, using what I view as a critical guideline for future action in many areas of our lives: Go local.
If you want to resist the oppressive power of the criminal large banks that are now sustained and even further enlarged in significant part with your tax money, as they increasingly impoverish our own lives: Go local. Avoid the large banks, and find a good, much smaller one. (Of course, part of what’s going on is that the massive financial companies in conjunction with the immense power of the federal government — thanks, Obama! — are trying to wipe the smaller banks out of existence altogether. But they haven’t fully succeeded in that effort, not yet.)
Buy your food from farms or co-ops in your area, to the extent you can. Go local. In part, this was the possibility I indicated in “Contemplating a Different World,” and in the earlier, “The Tale that Might Be Told.”
So even if the worst realities suggested by these treaty provisions come to pass, other possibilities will be identified and explored. In time, some of those possibilities will be realized. And then the whole process will be repeated again.
The tune changes, but the dance goes on. As any number of posts here indicate, I’m obviously not in the least denying that the ruling class is largely, if not exclusively, populated by vicious bastards, and I’m certainly not minimizing the profoundly horrifying level of devastation and suffering they cause. But the dance goes on.
We’ll have to learn some new steps. That’s always the way it works. That is, as we say, life. And that’s a very good thing.
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November 7th, 2009 at 4:32 am
a powerful film about jfk and the need for people to be true, very moving a little tear jerking , has a lot of great points and is a must see for freedom lovers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUY7dl7X_vo
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November 7th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Shit just got real.
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f Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
They will never kill the Internet without ruining their own plans. The INternet is a HYDRA and it’s the only true enemy against the NWO with any power.
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Patriotgal Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Of course they will kill the internet. It allows us to communicate with each other WAY too easily. Doesn’t matter if they listen. They HAVE to kill the internet.
At least we will have more time for reloading!
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November 7th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Friends,
we have absolutely no control over what is happening in this country, or in the world for that matter. There is a powerful force behind this rapidly emerging transformation happening right before our eyes. The Bible accurately predicts this very time. It is depicted as a period of great tribulation.
Although Satan is truly causing great evil in the world right now, understand and be ever so thankful that God has always been and most certainly will always be the captain of this ship.
We are seeing the fulfillment of biblical prophesy. The thing to remember and never forget under any circumstances is that we are told to always be good citizens. That means both accepting and adhering to the laws established by those governments in power. That is unless such laws are contrary to the Laws of God. We never comprimise Gods Law, not ever!
In a short while Gods government will be set up right here on earth, headed by the King of Kings, Gods Son Jesus Christ. This will happen according to the Scriptures May 27, 2012.
Recognize what is happening, embrace our loving and merciful Father. Exercise love, faith and trust in Yahweh, it is your only hope. God knew as men we would be incapable of adhering to His Law, out of His perfect Love for us He gave us His Son who sacrificed in purity his life as our Passover. Don’t squander this wonderful gift of Fatherly affection. Seek God, repent and love Him with all your heart.
This is the solution to what stands before us.
With love,
A Good Citizen
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cocks Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:46 am
fuck religion and prophecies idiot
the same people that wrote it are doing it through generations
they are just adding to the predicted agenda with propaganda like the 2012 film
they are using the prophecies and religion as unstoppable unavoidable reasons for their actions to be justified
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bob boblaw Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
so we are supposed to sit here like good citizens and wait for this invisible man to make everything better? you honestly call that a logical solution?
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pet pooper scooper Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
may 27, 2012 ,,, how would you know this is the date??????the setting up off His kingdom/nobody know the time or the hour, except the Father…….so i read, some time ago…..better not confuse people more than what they are already.that would help……thanks .keep looking up,He ain,t comming thrrough the ground.
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Brian Hill Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 2:05 am
The internet will definitely be destroyed because we have someone that is following the same guidelines of past dictators like Hitler and his name is Barack Obama.
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Patriotgal Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 10:06 am
That should be “barry bin obamao”. I understand your typo.
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Daniel L Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
You are 100% correct good citizen. Yet may I stress the “not compromise Gods Law” part. Soon the mark of the beast will be implemented…possibly a tear or two from now. Chip implants all around. Any law the interfere’s with the worship and obedience to God we are called to is against Gods Law. I will not surrender any arms, I will not embrace homosexuality, I will continue to believe the bible and bible prophecy. I will call gay marriage a disgrace and an abomination..like it is. I wil not rollover for tyrants…which is what we have running this country. Yet I also will not go on a nut for every undesirable development. We must choose our battles…and we must choose wisely.
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November 7th, 2009 at 9:59 am
I have read that the banking mafia will turn the Internet into a service like cable television, where you will have to subscribe to whatever package of websites your isp offers to you.
They would go about this by not increasing the availability of bandwidth to the home, although fibre optic has long ago been installed, thus causing consumers to desire the faster package deals which have already pre selected websites chosen.
This would then cause sites like http://www.truth-it.net and prisonplanet.com, etc to disappear.
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wildcat Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
My ISP just raised their top tier download rate up to 70 Mbytes/second. They make money from subscription gaming services, so I don’t see them giving that up.
To impose a cable TV business model to the Internet, they would have to disable proxy servers first – otherwise you would just be able to use the proxy server to access the premium rate websites. More likely, if “net neutrality” were to be removed, they could charge higher rates for watching videos due to the additional data bandwidth requirements.
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November 7th, 2009 at 10:28 am
If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. Its peculiar character, too, is that no one possesses the less, because every other possesses the whole of it. He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. That ideas should freely spread from one to another over the globe, for the moral and mutual instruction of man, and improvement of his condition, seems to have been peculiarly and benevolently designed by nature, when she made them, like fire, expansible over all space, without lessening their density in any point, and like the air in which we breathe, move, and have our physical being, incapable of confinement or exclusive appropriation. Inventions then cannot, in nature, be a subject of property.
Thomas Jefferson
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November 7th, 2009 at 11:14 am
necessity is the mother of invention.
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Patriotgal Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 10:06 am
No, necessity is just a mother….
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ATHANOR Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Yes and Mickey Mouse is the father.
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November 7th, 2009 at 11:41 am
yeah just like when i typed in prisonplanet.com in bing gave me nothing zelch
bing is microsoft hummmm makes u wonder huh think its time
united we stand divided we will fall people
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November 7th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
i typed prisonplanet.com into bing and it pops up to this website. you’re acting nutty mountainman.
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November 7th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
People bag the bible but every prophecy so far has happened and thats common knowledge unless u live in a cave. SO there is no reason the rest won’t come true.
As far as whats going on now or in planning and what the bible says:
1 world Government: Getting set up
1 world currency: Getting set up
1 world religion: Alliance of civilisations are working on that one.
roman empire revived: happened last week when lisbon treaty was finalized.
Temple being reblult: Israel have already started building a full size replica of the temple.
Israel and many nations signing a 7 year peace deal: european neighbourhood policy.
You won’t be able to buy or sell without the mark of the best: Chipping humans is more than likely whats going to happen there which they are testing out in heaps of places currently.
People can turn a blind eye and bag the bible all they want but they won’t stop whats going to happen and if you open your eyes you can see what im talking about.
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November 7th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
my safari internet browser keeps telling me stuff is malware
it told me the ‘restore the republic’ website is malware
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November 7th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Uh, hate to let the writer know, but fire, the printing press, gunpowder, etc. all really did change the world forever. Yep, as fucked up as this world is, it’s tons better than the dark ages the printing press overthrew. And that little refrain one hears, which he quotes, it’s true. Yep. And no, the powers that be are not able to see this. Remember in 2004=5, when the “leaders” in congress were wanting to ban bloggers? They didn’t even know how to access the internet. Now, they are learning, but they are a bit too late. If they did do all this shit (wiping out YouTube would be awesome in that might actually get people pissed off enough to do something) to control the net, our entire economy would really collapse and the death toll would be astronomical. Not a great thing as we’d probably wind up with a bunch of stupid, hateful fundamentalists running the country, stoning gays, adulterers, and teaching the world was made in seven days by pat robertson. But, that is what they would risk. Luckily, our leaders would be dead as would almost everyone you know anyway. So, who fucking cares? Once you’re dead, no more problems.
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Richard Sievert Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 9:09 am
tell that to the pore man that uses the paper for a blanket sir’ or paper to role his cigarette because deep down inside they seek death sub contentiously and they use wine to cover there pain.
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November 7th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Scoff prophecy if you must, but realise God will be your only infallible anchor in the shitstorm on the horizon. Meanwhile, I’m wrestling with the “thou shalt not kill” directive juxtaposed with Christ’s admonition to “be good soldiers”.
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November 7th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
The Constitution, although a noble idea this document is not the word of God. The Bible says @ (Psalm 146:3-4) “Do not put YOUR trust in nobles, Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs. 4 His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; In that day his thoughts do perish”. It tells us this for all good reasons as we can see what is becoming of the Constitution
The truth is better than the lie. A lie is what messed up the world that we live in and that lie is still being perpetuated every day. The lie has always push God out of the picture to those that in ignorance of his existence because of the way he is misrepresented by those falsely claiming to worship him. (Titus 1:16) “They publicly declare they know God, but they disown him by their works, because they are detestable and disobedient and not approved for good work of any sort”. (Jeremiah 5:31) “The prophets themselves actually prophesy in falsehood; and as for the priests, they go subduing according to their powers. And my own people have loved [it] that way; and what will YOU men do in the finale of it?. . .
So it stands that those being lied to by false religious leaders just love it; while those who are able to see through the false religious lies just have no faith in the Creator whatsoever and so the wicked one Satan the Devil is winning on both their accounts as brought to our attention @ (Revelation 12:9) “So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him”. No wonder the lies told on God are so powerful in the world we live in! The truth is and has always been with a small minority of the world’s population. (1 John 5:19-20) “We know we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one. 20 But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us intellectual capacity that we may gain the knowledge of the true one. And we are in union with the true one, by means of his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting.
It sad to see that the only truthful information given to the human family is so misunderstood. Here I will make it as easy as it can ever be to understand by giving you Scriptures that you will only have to seek the answer to in order to find out the absolute true.
(Ephesians 4:3-6) “earnestly endeavoring to observe the oneness of the spirit in the uniting bond of peace. 4 One body there is, and one spirit, even as YOU were called in the one hope to which YOU were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all [persons], who is over all and through all and in all”. (What does ONE mean?)
Jesus said: (Matthew 24:14) “And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come”.(What ONE faith is covering all the nations of the world with the teaching about God’s government; as this is what the word kingdom means?) Just pick up your Bible and read Isaiah 9:6 to comfirm this fact. So far God’s prophetic word tells us that the ONE faith (RELIGION) will be doing a specific work before his kingdom or goverment takes over earth’s affairs. (Daniel 2:44) 44 “And in the days of those kings (Presidents, Priminister or whatever title they use) the God of heaven will set up a kingdom (Goverment) that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom (Goverment) itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, (Goverment) and it itself will stand to times indefinite”. This large assignment has been delegated to the ONE faith as told here at (Matthew 24:45-47) 45 “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? 46 Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. 47 Truly I say to YOU, He will appoint him over all his belongings”. “So it is clear that an appointment is made by God’s son to disseminate accurate knowledge. (1 Corinthians 2:6-10) “Now we speak wisdom among those who are mature, but not the wisdom of this system of things nor that of the rulers of this system of things, who are to come to nothing. 7 But we speak God’s wisdom in a sacred secret, the hidden wisdom, which God foreordained before the systems of things for our glory. 8 This [wisdom] not one of the rulers of this system of things came to know, for if they had known [it] they would not have impaled the glorious Lord. 9 But just as it is written: “Eye has not seen and ear has not heard, neither have there been conceived in the heart of man the things that God has prepared for those who love him.” 10 For it is to us God has revealed them through his spirit, for the spirit searches into all things, even the deep things of God”. (Genesis 40:8) “Do not interpretations belong to God?”
God’s word the Bible foretold how the Devil will produce counterfeit Christendom and of course Babylon the Great (which is the world empire of false religion with its Sun god and Ido demon worship has always been) to play the largest role in the world: (Matthew 13:36-40) 36 Then after dismissing the crowds he went into the house. And his disciples came to him and said: “Explain to us the illustration of the weeds in the field.” 37 In response he said: “The sower of the fine seed is the Son of man; 38 the field is the world; as for the fine seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; but the weeds are the sons of the wicked one, 39 and the enemy that sowed them is the Devil. The harvest is a conclusion of a system of things, and the reapers are angels. 40 Therefore, just as the weeds are collected and burned with fire, so it will be in the conclusion of the system of things. (Matthew 7:13-14) 13 “Go in through the narrow gate; because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it; 14 whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it”. (See also 2 Timothy 3:13; 4:3 Revelation 17:4, 5; 18:23)
Now here this, during World War 1 & 2 Christendom fought against Christendom I never saw so many graves with crosses on them from both side of the conflict until I seen videos of WW1&2 casualties. So here I will put forth the most profound understanding. Since the Bible is a book that has been accurately foretelling the future, should it not also reveal where we can find the true ONE faith of those whom Jesus is still referring to when he says: @ (Matthew 28:19-20) “Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”
(John 17:3) “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ”. In the following scriptures I have removed God’s divine name and replaced it with (blank) for two reasons, (1) to make a point and (2) to help you to understand that if you put God’s divine name back where it belongs such Psalms as found @ 74:7,10,18,21; 44:5,8,20; 48:10; 52:9; 54:1,6; 61:5,8; 63:4 will be able to be fulfilled by you as well and make sense for a change. In all actuality the scriptures @ Psalms 74 that I gave you will allow you to understand why the Divine name of God has been removed in the Bible that Christendom use.
Are we told by other prophets that served God what to look for when it comes to true worship of God. Notice the book of (Isaiah 2:2-4) And it must occur in the final part of the days [that] the mountain of the house of (blank) will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, and it will certainly be lifted up above the hills; and to it all the nations must stream. 3 And many peoples will certainly go and say: “Come, YOU people, and let us go up to the mountain of (blank), to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will instruct us about his ways, and we will walk in his paths.” For out of Zion law will go forth, and the word of (blank) out of Jerusalem. 4 And he will certainly render judgment among the nations and set matters straight respecting many peoples. And they will have to beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, neither will they learn war anymore”.
In the Bible mountains, hills and high places are where false religions were practiced. (1 Kings 3:2) “Only the people were sacrificing on the high places. . .(2 Chronicles 11:15) . . .And he proceeded to put in office for himself priests for the high places and for the goat-shaped demons and for the calves that he had made. . .(Jeremiah 7:31) . . .And they have built the high places of To′pheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hin′nom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart.. . .” So we learn that in the ‘last days’ true worship would be elevated above false worship and true worshippers will not engage in war fare. If you know of the Christain religion that did not particiapte in the carnage of WW1&2, know that what is said about them @(Malachi 3:18) is the reason: “And YOU people will again certainly see [the distinction] between a righteous one and a wicked one, between one serving God and one who has not served him.”
Plain and simple, if everyone on earth were worshippers of the only true God there would be no wars in support of the NWO whatsoever, therefore those calling themselves truth seekers really need to learn the truth about the Bible; as it clearly shows how the NWO will be defeated in behalf of those who are truly seeking the truth.
(2 Thessalonians 2:9-10) 9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved.
(Daniel 2:44-45) . . .“And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite; 45 forasmuch as you beheld that out of the mountain a stone was cut not by hands, and [that] it crushed the iron, the copper, the molded clay, the silver and the gold. The grand God himself has made known to the king what is to occur after this. And the dream is reliable, and the interpretation of it is trustworthy.”
(John 3:17-21) “For God sent forth his Son into the world, not for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him. 18 He that exercises faith in him is not to be judged. He that does not exercise faith has been judged already, because he has not exercised faith in the name of the only-begotten Son of God. 19 Now this is the basis for judgment, that the light has come into the world but men have loved the darkness rather than the light, for their works were wicked. 20 For he that practices vile things hates the light and does not come to the light, in order that his works may not be reproved. 21 But he that does what is true comes to the light, in order that his works may be made manifest as having been worked in harmony with God.”
Now by putting God’s Divine name back in place the light can shine upon receptive hearts.
(John 17:6) “I have made your name manifest to the men you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have observed your word.
(John 17:26) 26 “And I have made your name known to them and will make it known, in order that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them.”
(Jeremiah 31:34) “And they will no more teach each one his companion and each one his brother, saying, ‘KNOW Jehovah!’ for they will all of them know me, from the least one of them even to the greatest one of them,” is the utterance of Jehovah. “For I shall forgive their error, and their sin I shall remember no more.”
(Acts 18:24-26) “Now a certain Jew named A•pol′los, a native of Alexandria, an eloquent man, arrived in Eph′e•sus; and he was well versed in the Scriptures. 25 This [man] had been orally instructed in the way of Jehovah and, as he was aglow with the spirit, he went speaking and teaching with correctness the things about Jesus, but being acquainted with only the baptism of John. 26 And this [man] started to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Pris•cil′la and Aq′ui•la heard him, they took him into their company and expounded the way of God more correctly to him”.
(Acts 15:14-18) . . .Sym′e•on has related thoroughly how God for the first time turned his attention to the nations to take out of them a people for his name. 15 And with this the words of the Prophets agree, just as it is written, 16 ‘After these things I shall return and rebuild the booth of David that is fallen down; and I shall rebuild its ruins and erect it again, 17 in order that those who remain of the men may earnestly seek Jehovah, together with people of all the nations, people who are called by my name, says Jehovah, who is doing these things, 18 known from of old. . .
(Isaiah 42:5-8) . . .This is what the [true] God, Jehovah, has said, the Creator of the heavens and the Grand One stretching them out; the One laying out the earth and its produce, the One giving breath to the people on it, and spirit to those walking in it: 6 “I myself, Jehovah, have called you in righteousness, and I proceeded to take hold of your hand. And I shall safeguard you and give you as a covenant of the people, as a light of the nations, 7 [for you] to open the blind eyes, to bring forth out of the dungeon the prisoner, out of the house of detention those sitting in darkness. 8 “I am Jehovah. That is my name; and to no one else shall I give my own glory, neither my praise to graven images.
(Proverbs 1:20-33) “True wisdom itself keeps crying aloud in the very street. In the public squares it keeps giving forth its voice. 21 At the upper end of the noisy streets it calls out. At the entrances of the gates into the city it says its own sayings: 22 “How long will YOU inexperienced ones keep loving inexperience, and [how long] must YOU ridiculers desire for yourselves outright ridicule, and [how long] will YOU stupid ones keep hating knowledge? 23 Turn back at my reproof. Then to YOU I will cause my spirit to bubble forth; I will make my words known to YOU. 24 Because I have called out but YOU keep refusing, I have stretched out my hand but there is no one paying attention, 25 and YOU keep neglecting all my counsel, and my reproof YOU have not accepted, 26 I also, for my part, shall laugh at YOUR own disaster, I shall mock when what YOU dread comes, 27 when what YOU dread comes just like a storm, and YOUR own disaster gets here just like a storm wind, when distress and hard times come upon YOU. 28 At that time they will keep calling me, but I shall not answer; they will keep looking for me, but they will not find me, 29 for the reason that they hated knowledge, and the fear of Jehovah they did not choose. 30 They did not consent to my counsel; they disrespected all my reproof. 31 So they will eat from the fruitage of their way, and they will be glutted with their own counsels. 32 For the renegading of the inexperienced ones is what will kill them, and the easygoingness of the stupid is what will destroy them. 33 As for the one listening to me, he will reside in security and be undisturbed from dread of calamity.”
(Jeremiah 25:31-33) . . .“‘A noise will certainly come clear to the farthest part of the earth, for there is a controversy that Jehovah has with the nations. He must personally put himself in judgment with all flesh. As regards the wicked ones, he must give them to the sword,’ is the utterance of Jehovah. 32 “This is what Jehovah of armies has said, ‘Look! A calamity is going forth from nation to nation, and a great tempest itself will be roused up from the remotest parts of the earth. 33 And those slain by Jehovah will certainly come to be in that day from one end of the earth clear to the other end of the earth. They will not be bewailed, neither will they be gathered up or be buried. As manure on the surface of the ground they will become.’
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Patriotgal Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Oh, God’s, “truther” is back, like a vermin. Tell Alex’s staff!
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ATHANOR Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Begone ye follower of false translations!
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Nunya Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
another cointel spammer, sheesh. your ‘god’ could have stopped this centuries ago, if he existed. And since he didn’t stop this, why? And out of the entire universe, why put his ‘creation’ AND his nemesis on the same planet (out of the possible billions of planets)? Was it to test us, or punish us? Your ‘bible’ is just a playbook, no more no less. It keeps the ‘adversaries’ of the world on the same page (Book of the Apocolypse), that way there are no memos sent out. Your ‘god’ has repeatedly failed you, time after time after time after time. Isn’t it about time you stopped spending time with your imaginary childhood friend, and took your OWN initiative? We could use some help here.
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November 7th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
I’m not sure about this, but maybe if the above poster would indulge him/her self in a large pizza with extra cheese and lots of good toppings, the next posting will be a bit lighter and offer more hope.
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November 8th, 2009 at 4:46 am
“Email accounts are suspended based on abuse complaints. Our systems route millions of routine emails to freinds every day and none of them result in account suspension. Apparently you have sent some emails that resulted in multiple complaints. In order to send a complaint the original email has to be included. No one can just complain and have your account arbitrarily suspended. It takes multiple complaints to cause account suspension. We have to work this out with the administrators on the network connections we use. It may take a few days to get this done. Hope this helps.”
–Infowars.net, Oct 2009
“Im sorry but I don’t know who ’someone’ is because the referring admins only report the abuse – I do not get a copy of the reports. Funny how they can do that to protect the ‘privacy’ of the reporting person but it allows the networks to take action and block network traffic based on an accuser I can’t face. That is screwed up, but just one example of the reason I find it increasingly hard to operate on the net — and ‘they’ like it that way.”
–Infowars.net, Oct 2009
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November 8th, 2009 at 6:28 am
Hope, we all need it and that is why we are promised @ (Psalm 37:29) “The righteous themselves will possess the earth, And they will reside forever upon it.
Louis, the hope you are looking for springs from having an accurate knowledge of the only true God and the one who he send forth Jesus Christ as applying such holds the promise of EVERLASTING LIFE right on earth under God’s kingdom rule. That is what is being ask for when we pray let your kingdom come and your will be done on earth as in heaven. (John 17:3) Because such knowledge helps us to acquire the right disposition in the face of everything we are facing in life.
“Let anger alone and leave rage; Do not show yourself heated up only to do evil. 9 For evildoers themselves will be cut off, But those hoping in Jehovah are the ones that will possess the earth. ו [Waw] 10 And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more; And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be. 11 But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace. ז [Za′yin] 12 The wicked one is plotting against the righteous one, And at him he is grinding his teeth. 13 Jehovah himself will laugh at him, For he certainly sees that his day will come. ח [Chehth] 14 The wicked ones have drawn a sword itself and have bent their bow, To cause the afflicted and poor one to fall, To slaughter those who are upright in [their] way. 15 Their own sword will enter into their heart, And their own bows will be broken. ט [Tehth] 16 Better is the little of the righteous one Than the abundance of the many wicked ones. 17 For the very arms of the wicked ones will be broken, But Jehovah will be supporting the righteous ones. י [Yohdh] 18 Jehovah is aware of the days of the faultless ones, And their very inheritance will continue even to time indefinite. 19 They will not be ashamed in the time of calamity, And in the days of famine they will be satisfied. כ [Kaph] 20 For the wicked themselves will perish, And the enemies of Jehovah will be like the preciousness of pastures; They must come to their end. In smoke they must come to their end:.(Psalm 37:8-20)
“On this account it was as a result of faith, that it might be according to undeserved kindness, in order for the promise to be sure to all his seed, not only to that which adheres to the Law, but also to that which adheres to the faith of Abraham. (He is the father of us all, 17 just as it is written: “I have appointed you a father of many nations.”) This was in the sight of the One in whom he had faith, even of God, who makes the dead alive and calls the things that are not as though they were. 18 Although beyond hope, yet based on hope he had faith, that he might become the father of many nations in accord with what had been said: “So your seed will be.” 19 And, although he did not grow weak in faith, he considered his own body, now already deadened, as he was about one hundred years old, also the deadness of the womb of Sarah. 20 But because of the promise of God he did not waver in a lack of faith, but became powerful by his faith, giving God glory 21 and being fully convinced that what he had promised he was also able to do. 22 Hence “it was counted to him as righteousness.” (Romans 4:16-22)
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November 8th, 2009 at 7:27 am
To the adverage person non of this makes sense but to those meek enough to study the Bible so as to learn God’s time table they will find that the world has not been at the stage mentioned in the following scripture until the early 1900’s. (Revelation 11:18) But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time for the dead to be judged, and to give [their] reward to your slaves the prophets and to the holy ones and to those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.” In fact the Bible’s prophecy concerning WW1 & 2 hadn’t come light until only 95 years ago with the start of WW 1.
(Matthew 24:4-8) And in answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads YOU; 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6 YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet. 7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress. (Revelation 6:3-4) And when he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say: “Come!” 4 And another came forth, a fiery-colored horse; and to the one seated upon it there was granted to take peace away from the earth so that they should slaughter one another; and a great sword was given him”.
All of this took place starting in the year 1914 when the Wicked one was casted out of heaven for good. “So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him”. (Revelation 12:9) “On this account be glad, YOU heavens and YOU who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to YOU, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.” (Revelation 12:12) So as the momentum of the NWO is picking up due to the short period of time Satan has left to try and beat the true God to fulfilling his purpose of kingdom rule which is the true NWO where there will not be any room for all of the false religious ideas. The Devil too is going to do away with all of the false religions to give the world just one way to worship him under the 666 now being established by his ruling elite. But should we be worried? Not if you understand that what they think is going to be their success is actually going to be their demise. The destruction of harlot (the world empire of false religion) will be what the NWO will think will be their great victory. However will they actually do away with all of the worlds religions? See what God’s word has to say @ (Revelation 17:16-18) “And the ten horns that you saw, and the wild beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire. 17 For God put [it] into their hearts to carry out his thought, even to carry out [their] one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished. 18 And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth”.
So Louis, I hope that you lay off of the large pizzas with extra cheese and lots of good toppings, and find yourself a good witness of the things that I have shared with you to study the Bible with so that you can have more than hope! You can actually be one who survive all of what is getting ready to take place as mentioned @ (Revelation 7:13-14) “And in response one of the elders said to me: “These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from?” 14 So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one that knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb”. Those who come out of the great tribulation will be the nucleus of the true NWO that will turn this earth into the paradise that God purpose it to be from the beginning. The good news of God’s word is the only source of hope that this world has to offer!
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November 8th, 2009 at 9:49 am
well, I’ll say this – the world would be a better place if people could set aside their anger, jealousy, etc. I do not claim to be an expert on these matters, but somewhere in all this there are matters of justice and truth. You cannot realistically approach a person or a people who have been wronged to the point of grievous historical abuse, and just tell them to set aside all their feelings. That is not only not real, it is not just. I’m not going to write any more, but just to say that from what I have read of the Bible, it seems that one day Jesus will come and do that judging and deciding of issues and the fate of people and nations which we are not capable of doing in this lifetime.
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November 8th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
The alternate internet has already been built for the connected, so to speak. Science, government, military-the connected in general have had one built for them, as I recall, reported on these pages. When yours is taken away, it will be because 10% of the electricity generated in this country goes just to maintain the infrastructure of the internet. Yours will be an impediment to curing global “whateverthey’reselling”.
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November 8th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
People need as Jesus mentions @ (John 17:17) “Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth”. Jesus uses and quotes the source of truth the Bible that is now in our possesion throughout his earthly minstry as it is the soil of God’s thinking rather than mans.
Its not about telling people to set aside their feeling but rather educating them so that they can understand the source of their feelings and where justice will come from in their behalf.
Without understanding who the real enemies are it is easy to think that the matters of justice are overlooked. (1 John 3:8) …”For this purpose the Son of God was made manifest, namely, to break up the works of the Devil”.
Jesus showed on a small scale what he will accomplish for all who ever live in this world when he is given the go ahead to turn his attention to the earth to rule as king. “The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord is: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet”. (Psalm 110:1) “For since death is through a man, resurrection of the dead is also through a man. 22 For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each one in his own rank: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who belong to the Christ during his presence. 24 Next, the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king until [God] has put all enemies under his feet. 26 As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing”. (1 Corinthians 15:21-26)
This next scripture tells about a person that has been wronged with reason to grief, however, notice Jesus response @ (Matthew 11:2-6) “But John, having heard in jail about the works of the Christ, sent by means of his own disciples 3 and said to him: “Are you the Coming One, or are we to expect a different one?” 4 In reply Jesus said to them: “Go YOUR way and report to John what YOU are hearing and seeing: 5 The blind are seeing again, and the lame are walking about, the lepers are being cleansed and the deaf are hearing, and the dead are being raised up, and the poor are having the good news declared to them; 6 and happy is he that finds no cause for stumbling in me.”
The main point of this discussion is to relate that only Jehovah God has the power to over turn all of the injustice that was ever dealt out to the humam family.“For here I am creating new heavens and a new earth; and the former things will not be called to mind, neither will they come up into the heart. 18 But exult, YOU people, and be joyful forever in what I am creating. For here I am creating Jerusalem a cause for joyfulness and her people a cause for exultation”.(Isaiah 65:17-18).
In conclusion all of the coments on these site can be some up in these words @ (2 Peter 2:18-19) “For they utter swelling expressions of no profit, and by the desires of the flesh and by loose habits they entice those who are just escaping from people who conduct themselves in error. 19 While they are promising them freedom, they themselves are existing as slaves of corruption. For whoever is overcome by another is enslaved by this one”.
Truth freedom can only come from the true God (Romans 8:19-22) “For the eager expectation of the creation is waiting for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will but through him that subjected it, on the basis of hope 21 that the creation itself also will be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God. 22 For we know that all creation keeps on groaning together and being in pain together until now. . .
(Revelation 21:4-5) “And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.” 5 And the One seated on the throne said: “Look! I am making all things new.” Also, he says: “Write, because these words are faithful and true”.
May you come to find spirit and truth and make it your strong hold!
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November 8th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
False translations are the ones that remove God name from them
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November 8th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
have you ever heard story about two people attempting a conversation along the airport runway, but the jet engines next to them are drowning out all the words? Well, it’s a little bit like that here. The words from the Bible and what you have written make sense in principle, but I think it is vital to demonstrate empathy and interest on a personal level with those you hope to influence. I understand that is not always possible – such as online – but it is something I am coming to believe more and more. I think you have done a good job of presenting Bible principles here, and I think it is very important in the future to learn empathy and understanding for peoples’ experiences.
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November 8th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
First off, we need to understand that globalization is not a bad thing. Eventually if the human race is to grow beyond the boundary of this small planet, we will need a global system of government.
Second off, we who are old enough know that the Internet is being tamed progressively just like the Wild, Wild West. But even with that being said, freedom of speech will be allowed and copyright laws should be enforced. What will change is how information is licensed for use in digital form and more importantly if intellectual infringements are monetized by the perpetrator.
Thirdly, we all know that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance and the larger the population becomes, more stingent controls are required for everyones benefit. This is akin to the importance of household rules for a family of four in a four bedroom/ 2 bath house v. a family of say seven living in that same space. All of the sudden it becomes important how much time is alloted in the bathroom. TV time and the other shared resources of the household.
Finally, the government is a large beast and I have no doubt that corruption abounds everywhere in our society on a national and global level. I applaud Alex Jones and his work to expose this, but I for one will continue to live the best I can with my eyes open and write my congressman when appropriate. But we all think this thing through without over reacting just because we find out what was thought to be the truth is a lie.
I for one will always believe that 9/11 was an inside job. This really opened my eyes to how serious the War being waged against the minds of the American people is. This is about power on a level beyond evil and corruption. I believe in GOD and Jesus like the next man or woman, but who really gave us the concept of good and evil. I hardly think the Global Elite are evil, I just don’t agree with what they are doing.
The question is what do you do about it?
Who is responsible?
What is the appropriate course of action to avoid anarchy in an era of a nuclear, biological and who knows what else world?
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November 8th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
When the Internet goes down, the geeks will FREAK OUT and the PARTY WILL BEGIN!
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November 8th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
YES JUST LIKE THE USSR IT WAS ALL CONTROL AMERICA ! WELL YOU HAVE HOW MANY CAZARS IN WASHINGTON NOW ? NOW IT TIME FOR MORE COMUNIST CONTROL AMERICA !
THE DEMO-RATS ARE GOING TO BRING IT ALL TO YOU !
KEEP SUPPORTING THE COMUNIST DEMO-RAT IN POWER AND YOU TO WILL SOON BE A
COMNUNIST BROTHER !
WAIT UNTILL THEY REALLY TAKE OVER THE COUNTRY, I CAN TELL YOU YOU HAVEN’T SEEN ANYTHING YET AMERICA ?
WELL SOME OF YOU ARE SAYING THIS PERSON IS CRAZY ? NUT WHAT IF THIS PERSON IS RIGHT ? WHAT ABOUT YOU FAMILYS AND YOUR FREINDS AMEIRCA !
PEOPLE DON’T LEAVE COMUNIST COUNTRY BECAUSE THE LIVE IS GREAT THERE !
THEY LEAVE BECAUSE IT LIVING HELL THERE !
IS THIS WHAT YOU TRULY WANT AMERICA ?
TIME TO FIGHT BACK BEFORE THIS BECOMES TRUE AMERICA !
IF YOUR A TRUE AMEIRCAN DO SOMETHING TO STOP THE COMUNIST NOW ?
ORGANIZE VOTING GROUPS TO TAKE BACK YOUR GOVERNMENT FROM THE COMUNIST NOW ! THROW THE DNC UNDER THE TRAIN AMERICA ?
HAVE YOUR FAMILY AND FRIEND OVER AND TALK ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN YOUR GOVERNMENT !
DERAIL THE COMUNIST EXPRESS NOW AMERICA !
GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH AMERICA ?
FIGHT BACK TO THE FOUNDING FATHERS WAYS OF GOVERNMENT AMERICA !
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November 8th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
The most important thing in the world, and the most powerful is the fact that Monsanto is spreading terminator seeds around the globe and into our food supply. Saving seeds and trying to grow from them will be pointless. You will only be able to eat food when Monsanto says you can. This makes money worthless. It makes gold worthless. It makes everything you thought was important meaningless. In the end the ability to grow your own food will be the key to survival.
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November 9th, 2009 at 2:24 am
Well i’m off to the biggest GOVERNMENT FUNDED,STATE FUNDED file sharing service.
I,m going to get some music ,DVD’s and some computer games.
I’m off to my local PUBLIC LIBRARY.
What you do with the material once it’s in your house is your business.
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