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The JFK Assassination: New York Times Acknowledges CIA Deceptions
Prof. Peter Dale Scott
Global Research
Thursday, Oct 22nd, 2009
The New York Times, on October 17, published a page-one story by Scott Shane about the CIA’s defiance of a court order to release documents pertaining to the John F. Kennedy assassination, in its so-called Joannides file. George Joannides was the CIA case officer for a Cuban exile group that made headlines in 1963 by its public engagements with Lee Harvey Oswald, just a few weeks before Oswald allegedly killed Kennedy. For over six years a former Washington Post reporter, Jefferson Morley, has been suing the CIA for the release of these documents. [1]
Sometimes the way that a news item is reported can be more newsworthy than the item itself. A notorious example was the 1971 publication of the Pentagon Papers (documents far too detailed for most people to read) on the front page of the New York Times.
The October 17 Times story was another such example. It revealed, perhaps for the first time in any major U.S. newspaper, that the CIA has been deceiving the public about its own relationship to the JFK assassination.
On the Kennedy assassination, the deceptions began in 1964 with the Warren Commission. The C.I.A. hid its schemes to kill Fidel Castro and its ties to the anti-Castro Directorio Revolucionario Estudantil, or Cuban Student Directorate, which received $50,000 a month in C.I.A. support during 1963.
In August 1963, Oswald visited a New Orleans shop owned by a directorate official, feigning sympathy with the group’s goal of ousting Mr. Castro. A few days later, directorate members found Oswald handing out pro-Castro pamphlets and got into a brawl with him. Later that month, he debated the anti-Castro Cubans on a local radio station.
That the October 17 story was published at all is astonishing. According to Lexis Nexis, there have only been two earlier references to the CIA Joannides documents controversy in any major U.S. newspaper: a brief squib in the New York Daily News in 2003 announcing the launching of the case, and a letter to the New York Times in 2007 (of which the lead author was Jeff Morley) complaining about the Times’ rave review of a book claiming that Oswald was a lone assassin.
(The review had said inter alia that “”Conspiracy theorists” should be ”ridiculed, even shunned… marginalized the way we’ve marginalized smokers.” The letter pointed out in response that those suspecting conspiracy included Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Robert Kennedy, and J. Edgar Hoover.)
The New York Times has systematically regulated the release of any facts about the Kennedy assassination, ever since November 25, 1963, when it first declared Oswald, the day after his death, to have been the “assassin” of JFK. A notorious example was the deletion, between the early and the final edition of a Times issue, of a paragraph in a review of a book about the JFK assassination, making the obvious point that “MYSTERIES PERSIST.” [2]
Apparently there was similar jockeying over the positioning of the Scott Shane story. In some east coast editions it ran on page eleven, with a trivializing introductory squib, “Food for Conspiracy Theorists.” In the California edition, headlined “C.I.A. Is Still Cagey About Oswald Mystery,” it was on page one above the fold.
One can assume that the Times decision to run the story was a momentous one not made casually. The same can probably be said of another recent remarkable editorial decision, to publish Tom Friedman’s op-ed on September 29 about the “very dangerous” climate now in America, “the same kind of climate here that existed in Israel on the eve of the Rabin assassination.”
Friedman did not mention JFK at all, and his most specific reference was to a recent poll on Facebook asking respondents, “Should Obama be killed?” [3] Four days later the Wall Street Journal expressed similar concern, adding to the “poll on Facebook asking whether the president should be assassinated, a column on a conservative Web site suggesting a military coup is in the works.” [4]
Friedman’s column broke a code of silence about the threats to Obama that had been in place ever since two redneck white supremacists (Shawn Adolf and Tharin Gartrell) were arrested in August 2008 for a plot to assassinate Obama with scoped bolt-action rifles. Andrew Gumbel’s story about them ran in the London Independent on November 16, 2008; of the fifteen related news stories in Lexis Nexis, only one, a brief one, is from a U.S. paper.
It is possible to take at face value the concern expressed by Friedman in his column. The Boston Globe, a New York Times affiliate, reported on October 18 that “The unprecedented number of death threats against President Obama, a rise in racist hate groups, and a new wave of antigovernment fervor threaten to overwhelm the US Secret Service.” [5]
But there may have been a higher level of concern in the normally pro-war Wall Street Journal’s reference to a military coup. Such talk on a conservative web site is hardly newsworthy. More alarming is the report by Robert Dreyfuss in the October 29 Rolling Stone that Obama is currently facing an ultimatum from the Pentagon and Joint Chiefs: either provide General McChrystal with the 40,000 additional troops he has publicly demanded, or “face a full-scale mutiny by his generals…The president, it seems, is battling two insurgencies: one in Afghanistan and one cooked up by his own generals.” [6]
One can only guess at what led the New York Times to publish a story about CIA obstinacy over documents about the JFK assassination. One explanation would be the similarities between the painful choices that Obama now faces in Afghanistan – to escalate, maintain a losing status quo, or begin to withdraw – and the same equally painful choices that Kennedy in 1963 faced in Vietnam. [7] More and more books in recent years have asked if some disgruntled hawks in the CIA and Pentagon did not participate in the assassination which led to a wider Vietnam War. [8]
Six weeks before Kennedy’s murder, the Washington News published an extraordinary attack on the CIA’s “bureaucratic arrogance” and
obstinate disregard of orders… “If the United States ever experiences a `Seven Days in May’ it will come from the CIA…” one U.S. official commented caustically. (“Seven Days in May” is a fictional account of an attempted military coup to take over the U.S. Government.) [9]
The story was actually a misleading one, but it was a symptom of the high-level rifts and infighting that were becoming explosive over Vietnam inside the Kennedy administration. The New York Times story about the CIA on October 17 can also be seen as a symptom of rifts and infighting. One must hope that the country has matured enough since 1963 to avoid a similarly bloody denouement.
Notes
1. “C.I.A. Is Cagey About ‘63 Files Tied to Oswald,” New York Times, October 17, 2009, http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/17/us/17inquire.html.
2. Jerry Policoff, The Media and the Murder of John Kennedy,” in Peter Dale Scott, Paul L. Hoch, and Russell Stetler, The Assassinations: Dallas and Beyond (New York: Random House/Vintage, 1976), 268.
3. Friedman, in decrying attacks on presidential legitimacy, recalled that “The right impeached Bill Clinton and hounded him from Day 1 with the bogus Whitewater “scandal.” It is worth recalling also that the public outcry about Whitewater was encouraged initially by a series of stories by Jeff Gerth, since largely discredited, in the New York Times. See Gene Lyons, “Fool for Scandal: How the New York Times Got Whitewater Wrong,” Harper’s, October 1994.
4. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125452861657560895.html.
5. Bryan Bender, “Secret Service strained as leaders face more threats Report questions its role in financial investigations,” Boston Globe, October 18, 2009,
6. Robert Dreyfuss, “The Generals’ Revolt: As Obama rethinks America’s failed strategy in Afghanistan, he faces two insurgencies: the Taliban and the Pentagon.” Rolling Stone, October 29, 41. Several other articles entitled “The Generals’ Revolt” have been published since 2003, including at least two earlier this year and a number in 2006, when retired generals’ pushed successfully for the removal of Rumsfeld over his handling of the Vietnam War.
7. Gareth Porter, Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War in Vietnam (Berkeley and Los Angeles: University of California Press, 2005), 266.
8. See for example James Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died & Why It Matters (Maryknoll, NY: Orbis Books, 2008).
9. Washington Daily News, October 2, 1963; discussed in Peter Dale Scott, The War Conspiracy: JFK, 9/11, and the Deep Politics of War (Ipswich, MA: Mary Ferrell Foundation Press, 2008),
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October 22nd, 2009 at 4:08 am
The spiral of time. No new trends. Just endless repeats – bit like TV…….and politics.
Is there really anyone alive in this world who believes the CIA were NOT involved in the assasination of JFK?
C Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:35 am
Gerald Posner, but hes either an asset or just plain stupid.
LRRP 1968 Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Posner didn’t even write that book himself. I personally questioned him about a pojt he made in the book shortly after it came out. He acted like he wasn’t aware of what was in the book.
My issue here is the rumors that LBJ and Hoover suspected a conspiracy. They were in on it! LBJ was for certain and Hoover most likely. Also Nixon was aware if not directly involved with it. In his White House tapes he constantly refers to “that Bay of Pigs thing” an obvious reference to JFK’s murder.
alex hidel Reply:
October 27th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Posner was discovered by CIA while in college, they sponsered his first book.
He is paid MockingBird, as was Timothy Leary, Anderson Cooper. Wolf Blitzer was AIPAC spokesman, Julia Childs was MI5, and Gong Show was CIA wetworks front.
Venice Airport is Mafia-CIA cocaine drug ring.
Gen Byrd test cruise missle there, also owns Dallas Book Depository.
Latest criminal owner Wally Hillard is in business with Psy-Op Chief, Men who stare at Goats MKULTRA manchurian .
Seems 9/11 terrorists were MKULTRA pawns, and Bush CIA Nazi Skulls worked with Mossad to plan 9/11 for Empire grab on Mid-East territory and resources. Pentagon & other Intel Hawks jump on board for the win.
Mainstream Media loves to cover a war, so they love to Wag The Dog !
Notice a Pattern? Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:53 am
JFK & Martin Luther King Assassination
USS Liberty
Sepember 11 2001
What do they all have in common?
False Flag Attacks to divert our attention away from the Banksters who heisted this country
Remember JFK was talking about ABOLISHING the FED.
This is why they killed him.
mn Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:22 am
It’s 3-fold, he was making moves towards ending the Fed, he was talking about ending the CIA/intelligence elites grip, and he didn’t want Israel to have nukes. Some would also say he wanted to end the war in Vietnam.
BTW Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:54 am
MN
It wasn’t so much that Kennedy wanted to end “war in VietNam”, he didn’t want to
escalate American troop involvement, which prior to his death, the US had only
” Advisors” in VietNam placed in there by the Eisenhower Administration along
with the “CIA”. Kennedy wanted to pull them out.
It took the known hater of the Kennedy brother’s, and complacer , LBJ went along with the
phony ” Gulf of Tonkin” incident to escalate American involvement.
YOU ARE A TROLL Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:40 am
mn is a SUPER TROLL!
you jackass Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
No hes not “YOUAREATROL”, hes right. Eat shit.
You are correct, Sirs! Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:37 am
Ending the fed, Vietnam, and Isreali nikes. The troika leading to JFK’s demise. My question reamins: Did foreigh mercenaries pull the triggers or American citizens?
not sure Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:47 am
I think American citizens(CIA or possibly mafia at the behest of), but I find it a strong possibility that Israel may have either hatched or helped in the plot and maybe the CIA finished it. James Angleton was an Israeli mole.
FUCK YOU DICKHEAD Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:46 am
not sure you are a FUCKING DICKHEAD, all doubt is now gone. You anti-Israel
fuck heads can’t stop coming up with new things to blame them for. Now they’re
behind the Kennedy assasination. There is no low you FUCKING TROLLS won’t
stoop, to push your bigotry and hate. KILL YOURSELVES, you are USELESS WASTES
of SKIN!!!!!!!FUCKING BRAINWASHED SHILLS, THE FUCKING LOT OF YOU!!!!!!
Fuck you Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:49 am
THou doth protest too much “FUCKYOUDICKHEAD”. You scumbags who lash out with anger at the mere mention of Israel are not doing the job anymore. YOu cant stifle debate and facts anymore. Israel has done a lot of dirty shit. Have you read Pipers book? Did you know JFK was AGAINST your beloved Israel getting nukes?
YOU ARE A TROLL Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:41 am
not sure is a MAJOR TROLL, government stooge!
LRRP 1968 Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:10 pm
I don’t buy the Israeli theory. They didn’t have sufficient reason to knock off an American president, besides they did not have the juice to engage in the coverup to the level it was done.
. Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
LRRP, you have some reading to do. Google James Angleton,CIA ISrael mole, JFk for starters. Then read Michael Collins Pipers book-”Final Judgment”. You cannot deny that JFK did NOT want Israel to have nukes right? And you cannot deny that they got nukes under LBJ right? You ddon;t see motive? And as far as the cover-up, again, Angleton.
YOU ARE A TROLL Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Google your mama, you little BITCH! Fuck you, limp dick boy!
LRRP 1968 Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
I did read Pipers book and was still not convinced. I felt his case was weak and not well documented. If Israel wanted nukes they would have gotten nukes whether Kennedy objected or not. Kennedy could never have stopped them, and my point about Israel not being able to do the coverup still stands.
Line in the sand Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:28 pm
LOOK FOLK’S LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THE EVIDENCE LEADS!
We citizens have had all we can take from this CRIMINAL GOV.
You will not reply to the Forensic evidence and that is as good as a admission of quilt!
We went to war over the attack of 911!
“AND NOW WE FIND THIS IN THE DUST FROM THE TOWERS”!
http://www.bentham-open.org/pa.....7TOCPJ.SGM
You gutless punks in our Gov need to go look in the mirror and ask your self what you are doing!
I have a good friend that has NO LEGGS and will never have children over this lie of 911!
Don’t you think for a moment that this CRIME will go unpunished becase as we speek line’s are being formed on all the crime’s commited from JFK to this raping of our economy so DO YOUR DUTY Gov boys.
Do it for our children/do it for this land you placed a OATH TO PROTECT or join the ranks of traitors and be MARKED in history for your treason!
My prayer is that GOOD MEN DO WHAT’S RIGHT & JUST BEFORE IT’S TO LATE.
Do we arrest the ciminals with the lock solid evidence or do we wait and have the same criminals kill more good folk’s.
Use a few brain cells and spend 30 min reading this report and ask your self
(HOW & WHY)
May the light of love and the light of truth giude all of you in Gov that are good and just!
We citizens will stand by you if you do your duty or spit on you if you don’t
Brian Hill Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
I think the elite has killed John F Kennedy all because he cared a bit toooo much about his country he was serving.
BeTrueSeekTruth Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:50 am
Only the blind who wish to be led by the decievers. Same as OKC and 911.
Patriotgal Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Sorry, if you haven’t figured it out yet, I can’t tell you. I mean, crap, it was on Mahrs’ show a week or so ago. Cereally, it is straightfoward.
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:41 am
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BurroCaliente Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:08 am
How?
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:44 am
Who owns the CIA?
Quantummonkeybutt Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:23 am
Nazi (SS) Scum Were Made Major Partners Of The CIA After WWII , But I’d Say, At The Highest Levels, The Luciferian Vibration Is ‘Directing’ The CIA For The NWO Agenda…
Murder, Torture Beyond Belief, Conspiracy, War Crimes Against Humanity, & Dismantling Of Democratic Societies INCLUDING OUR OWN???
Are These Are Central To ‘Intelligence’???? No, They Are Central To Brutal Control.
This Is The Way Of The 33rd Degree…Divide & Conquer, Destroy The Poor, Crush The Independent.
Neutralize The 33rd Degree (Life Mutator & Destroyer), And The World Will Know Peace.
QMB
Visualizing A World
Without The CIA
The Transmogrifer Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:33 am
Bob Austin, CIA=Central Illuminazi Agency, actually headquartered in England. We have been an occupied territory of the Rothschild banking cartel since March 9, 1933 when FDR sold the country and its people for all eternity. It was called the War Powers Act, and the American people were the ones who had war declared against them. The deal is done.
BurroCaliente Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:10 am
I am glad the English do it. It must be hard work to give death by pango pango to all the enemies of the crown.
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:48 am
The stage is all set
The actors are in place
Let the next episode of the drama begin
grab a front seat
never seen before
oh what laws they will be able to get through
when they pull this one off
How powerful they will feel
Until the veil drops completely
each act they commit is more obvious and crude
the bank heist,the massacres in our name
Tha camps and starvation to come
Gather with your tribe
seek the divine
all else is folly
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:58 am
Google-”Michael Collins Piper,Israel,JFK”. JFK didn’t want Israel to have nukes. They got them after JFK was killed. I’m not saying the CIA wasn’t involved, they were on some level, but there are numerous motives for the JFK killing. James “Jesus” Angleton was an Israeli mole in the upper levels of the CIA during the Kennedy hit. PUt the pieces together.
YOU ARE A TROLL Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:42 am
you are a FUCKING TROLL!, SUCK IT BITCH!
LRRP 1968 Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:11 pm
I read the book a few years ago. The evidence was not very convincing.
. Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Its as convincing or more so than any other theory. Again, do you even know who Angleton is? Israel during JFK=no nukes. Right after his death-they get nukes.
YOU ARE A TROLL Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:48 pm
FUCK YOU and your pussy invented theory, ASS FACE DICK!
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:11 am
Something to ponder for anyone who loves the truth:
If Lee Harvey Oswald was truly a “lone gunmen” which the “official story” of JFK’s assassination would lead you to believe, why would the CIA have to stonewall a FOIA request?
Think about it. If Lee Harvey Oswald is just himself, planning by himself, acting by himself, than there would be no impact to any government agency by his actions other than any documents relating to the actual investigation itself. Given a legitimate mandate to discover all facets of the Kennedy assassination, all government agency documents would be an open book as they would only lend credence to the investigation itself.
So, honestly, what motive would the CIA or any other government agency have, to stonewall a FOIA request?
If you free your mind to accept the truth you will see that the actions of the CIA clearly indicate that the official story is inaccurate and there never was a legitimate mandate to discover what happened that day in Dallas, TX.
Armand Herpe Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 2:14 am
Well said I agree.The truth of the matter is that Kennedy was Killed by a Domestic Political Conspiracy.Neither The Soviets or Castro had anything to do with The Murder of Kennedy this was Disinformation spread by Johnson and Hoover to divert attention from The true Culprits which were Rogue elements inside our Govt.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:15 am
The Mossad was behind 9/11 on behalf of the Sayanim network. JFK I’m not sure but, Israel was probably in on that one too. Obvious that we are the Israeli Military arm at this point. Time to pull out of the middle east all together.
name Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:23 am
Have you read Pipers book on JFK? Look into it. You are right about 9/11.
YOU ARE A TROLL Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:44 am
you two ass clowns need to get a room, do each other and figure out which one of you is the bigger bitch. ASS CLOWN TROLLS!
go away Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Go away jackass, seriously, you are not fooling anybody with your loud ass protests. In fact it just makes me want to know more about the Israeli angle.
YOU ARE A TROLL Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:39 pm
The only angle here is your Head up your ASS!
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:34 am
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October 22nd, 2009 at 5:55 am
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Do we live in the merry old land of Oz or what?
Frankly, the country has not been the same since JFK was assassinated. Think of what the country and the world would be like today if he had not been killed.
1. The Fed would not be here. JFK had taken steps to abolish the Fed and return control of the currency to Congress when he was shot. He had already begun printing greenbacks.
2. There would have been no war in Vietnam. Think of the money that would have saved We the People. We would not have the financial crisis on our hands that we have today.
3. The moon race would have become a joint international effort and the first men on the moon would have been an American and a Russian.
4. There would have been worldwide cooperation as the agreement between Nikita Khruschhev and JFK would have fostered international cooperation instaed of cold war.
5. Think about the money machine that would have been shut down if JFK had lived. The banksters would have been out of business. The defense industry that made huge profits in Vietnam – who were those companies – Bell Helicopter – who owned Bell Helicopter – it was nearly bankrupt when it was scooped up by First National Bank of Boston. Brown & Root, now Kellogg Brown Root, did the dredging of Cam Rahn Bay and went on to be acquired by Halliburton. War is big business and is controlled by the banksters. Why are we in Afghanistan today? For freedom? No, to protect the oil interests and the heroin interests. Money, that’s what it is all about The organizing principle of every society is war. War makes money for the banksters and wastes the resources of the country without raising the standard of living. 9/11 continued the effort – why? to profit certain families – Bushes, Cheneys, bin Ladens, Sauds, and others. etc.
But why is this not so?
That’s the important question, isn’t it. Why?
Why was Kennedy killed?
Who benefitted?
Who had the power to cover it up?
Answer these questions and you will know a lot about U.S. and world history.
That is all.
mn Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:25 am
You, like many sadly, left out one of the biggest motives-he did not want the Zionists to get a nuke. Israel got those nukes under LBJ. They now hold the world(starting with the US) hostage with and enjoy a double standard(they can kill and occupy as much as they want as long as the US protects them) and billions of taxpayer dollars yearly in part because of those nukes.
YOU ARE A TROLL Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:45 am
go cry somewhere else, ASS CLOWN! you truly are a DUMBFUCK!
Kent Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:46 am
Bell Helicopter–I might be mistaken but was not Ladybird Johnson a part owner or have a lot of stock in that company? And, with regard to protecting oil interests, a buddy of mine who was in the Marines indicated that there were several areas in Vietnam that were “off limits” in terms of military engagement because of oil resources. It’s interesting how history keeps repeating itself.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:59 am
The CIA LIED to us?
So now, how do we know they are not lying to us every time their lips move?
Trust the government; I don’t think so!
The Transmogrifer Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:43 am
Dear Matzo Man, you hit on something important: trust. Trust can be translated into ethical negotiations between caring people.
Trust in the Illuminati controlled government is quickly falling, and the dollar is rising.
It’s ironic, but USA Inc. CAN be trusted to build maximum misery into “civilization.”
We have developed into something worse than a prison planet, he have become a species of unparalleled sadism and deception, and yes that is what a “pyramid” scheme is designed to do.
We are not teaching anything in our schools but blind obedience to a system of cruelty and subversion of empathy.
No animal can match the the most inhumane creature to ever walk the earth: man. visciousnous
Matzo Man Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Thanks Transmogrifer. Most people blindly trust the government even though it has consistently lied to them all of their lives. The government presents society as a bland place where nothing changes. This is a total and complete lie. When no one is looking children are getting raped in prisons in Afghanistan, Americans are jobless or training their own replacements like digging their own graves, radioactivity from depleted uranium is causing enormous pain and death in Iraq (and to our guys)…
http://www.rense.com/general75/LIMP.HTM
We need to STOP TRUSTING THE GOVERNMENT.
ptm Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Does the infamous words of George H.W.Bush come to mind? “read my lips, I will not
raise taxes”. And the rest as they say is history.
Colonel X Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:41 am
Trust no one, Mr. Mulder.
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:32 am
RFK patsy was a big lie too.
Check into it ~
mn Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:29 am
Yep, he was a Palestinian and he had some bullshit note in his pocket condemning Israel. Of course we now know he couldnt remember a thing, and the fatal shot came from behind RFK, a spot where Sirhan couldn’t have possibly hit. Gee, if Sirhan is a patsy and thats who “they” chose, doesn’t it make you question who “they” really are? I think the same perps who killed JFK were obviously afraid of RFK making good on some of his brothers threats.
YOU ARE A TROLL Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:46 am
your mom was a palestinian, TROLL BAIT!!!
nader paul kucinich gravel Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Wall Street
Art students
9/11 snow job
Chicken hawks
Moving company
Propaganda media
DNC stealth neocons
Anti-semitism accusers
The chosen the superior
2-3% of the US population
Extortion blackmail bribery
By deception ye shall wage war
AIPAC’s Israel-first dual-nationals
For profit NotFederal NoReserve scam
Words are plentiful deeds are precious
go away Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Ok, now im convinced Israel had a role in the RFK/JFK killings. The way you insist on screaming your head off at every mention of it tells me there is something to it. Thou doth protest waaaaaay too much. Annoying jackass.
YOU ARE A TROLL Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:41 pm
I’ll never go away, I’m having tooooo much fun pushing your buttons! ASS CLOWN
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:48 am
if the government admits to just ONE conspiracy, it sets in motion a precedent by which the entire system could be doubted (since the entire system is arguably a conspiracy). This is why people adamantly oppose any and all fringe ideas because giving the conspiracy theory an inch could undermine their entire operation.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:08 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....rofilepage
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:12 am
The CIA don’t give a shit what you know.
They own your asses, you are all part of their choir. Anyone that steps too far off heir song sheet dies. Come on america Sing along.
JFK shot HIMSELF, do da do da
alex hidel Reply:
October 27th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Welcome Back Glen Beck !
We thought that you moved to Iceland were there are no black people in gov’t
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:38 am
Like Warren Zevon said….”It’s the land of the brave and the home of the free, where the less you know, the better off you’ll be…”
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:11 am
The end result of all this: we live in a “matrix” like existence. Our news is totally filtered for us, many technologies have been reserved for the nefarious elite. Big brother continually refines methods of monitoring and controlling us. We are poisoned with drugs and evil food. They dump chemtrails on us. The place seems to be run by a combination of bankers, Zionists and inbred elites.
I don’t mind working hard or dealing with adversity or living within the means we have earned for ourselves. Given a level playing field, I feel us Americans could do just fine without the influence and control of the mobsters or people that think themselves [gods].
I want to live in a free country. Lets work towards that goal, and if we achieve it, guard it vigorously.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:16 am
It’s in William Cooper’s Book – Behold a Pale Horse. Kennedy knew the truth behind the drug cartel. Zapada Oil (owned by Busch Sr.’s family) was allowing the drug dealers to run their drugs thru his offshore facilities in the late 50’s. Reason – the offshore facilities did not come under scrutiny with the Coast Guard. So easy in and easy out, right on to American Soil. Thanks again Busch!! Another Illuminati Agenda launched. The Bildabergs and the CIA (owned by Illuminati) had Kennedy shot. One of the shooters was his driver. There was a video released in the 70’s and William Cooper had a copy. He showed it to many people.
Thus many threats to his life for this whistle blowing and others that he did. But there was also the FED Reserve deal. He was investigating that and wanted it closed. Watch your Back Alex!!
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:28 am
When did we all forget the far more culpable players, organized crime, Anti-Castro Cubans, big buisness, and the military?
The FED, Israel, CIA: facilitators and/or secondary beneficiaries.
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October 22nd, 2009 at 8:50 am
Other way around. The CIA got Dulles on the Warren Commission, NOT the mafia or Cubans. How laughable. Honestly sir, go take that laughable theory somewhere else.
YOU ARE A TROLL Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:48 am
shut up TROLL BAIT!
Hologram5 Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
ALL HAIL ZOLTAN!!
Fuck you Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Fuck your mom in the ass you annoying little bitch. Seriously, just shut the fuck up.
YOU ARE A TROLL Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:36 pm
you fuck your moms ass, THATS SICK! You shut the fuck up and leave your mom alone!
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:57 am
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October 22nd, 2009 at 9:24 am
The CIA was set up also to cover the American Interests involved with the NAZIs it was
business as usual. GM and Opel and the New York Federal Reserse.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:26 am
There was some kind of connection with Kissinger and Nixon and Bombing of German plants
some owned by owned or connected to American Business Interests.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:29 am
It would go something like this at the TOP. Hey don’t bomb that “NAZI” plant it owned by us
Americans. Something lke that.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:31 am
Then when you get all the Kick ass War Profits you set up a Peace Institute or name some
Humanitarian Group or name some College after yourself.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:38 am
Abraham Lincoln was assinated by the same banking crowd that took out JFK. It’s a Family
Tradition.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:39 am
that is what is meant by Family Values.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:43 am
They even have a Song at the “club” of the ELITE and so great and really big egoes.
It is called “Mess with the FED (reserve) you end up DEAD.” they sing it to all Presidents.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:59 am
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October 22nd, 2009 at 10:11 am
Christ Vs. the Pharisees, Sadducees and money changers
Lincoln, JFK, MLK & RFK Vs. CIA, FED & War Cartel
A few good men against a seriously stacked Treasonious deck!!
We’ve enjoyed the yin of Technology “We” won’t enjoy the yang!!
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:25 am
needs to be played with ALEX’s video on the state of affairs at the TOP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzUx8L9vufE
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:02 am
there are people saying we you I do not know what’s going on there argent law makers setting in our court houses lying there asses of about how well things are taking mail that has any hint of concern for our country yes mail our country is ran by people that think i we you are stupid but i have this message for them all I Know.
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:03 am
Jack Ruby was mob. JR shot Oswald. That hints JFK was a mob hit. The mob had BIG PROBLEMS with Jack & Bobby. Anyway, nobody in the government would dare do that hit. There’s always a paper trail. That doesn’t mean the feds didn’t know about it—stand down / conspire / facilitate. I have a gut feeling the triggerman is still alive though…and they will make a deathbed confession with proof to back it up.
pitofdoom Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:30 am
“deathbed confession with proof to back it up.”
Age may present a “future” problem on that one.
How old would a shooter be in 1963 Vs. 2009 (46 yrs. plus their age)
Joe 12Pack Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
“Age may present a “future” problem on that one.”
“May” is the key word, isn’t it?
The triggerman “may” have stored the INSURANCE in a secret undisclosed retirement fund, “mayn’t” he?
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:53 pm
There were at least 5 shooters, not one ! So indeed, some may still be alive. All shots were within 40yards !
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:04 pm
“Quantummonkeybutt Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:23 am
Nazi (SS) Scum Were Made Major Partners Of The CIA After WWII , But I’d Say, At The Highest Levels, The Luciferian Vibration Is ‘Directing’ The CIA For The NWO Agenda…”
Nazi scum and Zionist FILTH! The same Zionist Filth that Alex Jones dances and prances around with no intent to target.
Oh right, Alex is Jewish. I remember now. Why should he speak OUT against these FLITH when the Talmud states you must NOT.
pitofdoom Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Not a Jewish expert but:
Torah:
Refers to the Five Books of Moses: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers & Deuteronomy.
Talmud The collection of ancient Rabbinic writings.
VERY BIG DIFFERENCE
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:37 pm
What does Jack Ruby, Abrahm Zapruter, Messrs. Redlich, Specter
and Eisenberg of the Warren Commission staff have in common.
The all created destroyed of covered up evidence in the Kennedy Assaination.
Kennedy was trying to end the Heeb banker’s Federal reserve, and end Israeli nuke program, after the Rosenbergs stole the prints from the US.
See also Neocons, Rahm Emanual and brother=health care, USS Liberty, Hollywood communist and Roy Cohn, Madoff and leaders at Lehman Stearns/Goldman Sachs/etc.
And czar Finestien investigating the the lot.
I could go on and on.
Oh yes, they bring all kinds of shit on top the the US people. They run the two parties of the US!
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:38 pm
It seems that the evidence points to JFK wanting to disband or eliminate the CIA because of its rogue nature and the level of compromise that infiltration by foriegn elements had planted within its ranks. Also, at the same time, Bush senior was working for the CIA and involved in the drug trade in Aftghanistan, which JFK had found out. Thirdly, JFK was going to cut off Israel from all assistance because he had found out that the Mossad had stole nuke plans from the US. So, you have the Mossad, CIA and Bush senior, among many others that decided that he had to be eliminated. If anyone has a problem understanding the level of Mossad and Israeli infiltration into foriegn governments, world finances and banking, all levels of intelligence, all religions, and near anything that is necessary to life and liberty: You should get the book called the “Plot Against the Church” by twelve Vatican Theologians published in 1962 under the pen name “Maurice Pinay”. Within this blockbuster, you have never read or realized a conspiracy so big, intense and all encompassing as the one revealed. The book is available from “Omni Christian Books, California” for $20. The Plot Against the Church exposes the largest, longest, most insidious conspiracy ever of how some are intent on establishing a “One World Judeo-Masonic Satanic Tryannical Order” of unprecedented debauchery and evil. The 5th Column is within the Governments, the Churches and all facets of society; it explains who was and is behind all the wars and plans to establish this One World Government. The book begins with an expose of the Russian revolution, a history or many kingdoms and empires and finally outlines the absolute magnitude of this conspiracy today. Explains all that is happening and why. The Trilateral Commission, the CFR, the Council of 300, all Utopian Societies and underworld regimes, all are controlled or serve to some degree these “Organized forces of Naturalism”. The rest is elementary.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Colonel X, you hit it right on the money…war is big business,and to keep the money rolling, they had to get rid of Presidend Kennedy.Because he was in the way they had to kill him or all the banksters would have to go get a real job…
October 25th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Only NI NAVAL INTELL vetted LEE HARVEY OSWALD, not the Mafia, not James Earl Jones, not anyone else. OSWALD was the perfect cut-out figure, the perfect patsy.
Ruby, RUBENSTEIN, the man who gunned down OSWALD who was under PROTECTION by the Dallas POLICE, sure bet, Ruby a notorious mafia man from NEW YORK had many police “on the take”, and provided them entertainment at his Carousel Club. He knew Oswald, too!
The layers of fabrication’s and distortions have been endlessly spun to protect the PTB Powers That Be. Even President Johnson knew that the WARREN REPORT was silly, and without any foundation. Central to the government’s own conspiracy theory was to cover-up OSWALD’s intelligence ops, including the completely absurd FAIR PLAY FOR CUBA COMMITTEE, a “committee” of but one sole member, LEE HARVEY OSWALD, who was acting on behalf of the CIA’s office, just around the corner from his acting “protest” and distributing those CIA pamphlets. DUMB and DUMBER, unless the people are looking to find the truth outside the government phonies, shills, and people wanting to make a buck and writing stupid books to make Oswald the LONE NUT ASSASSIN.
The WARREN REPORT was spun to provide the GOVERNMENT a nifty coverup for decades. Now, whom did they fear could be exposed. NIXON, of notorious WATERGATE? Who else may have known?! NIXON was in Dallas, but no, he did not plan the event, though likely knew it was coming — with the high-cabal, and low mafia associates criminality involved to assassinate President Kennedy was central to the plot to use TRIANGULATION, a method so preferred by those within certain military interests.
October 25th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Meanwhile, KENNEDY stated: The CIA ought to be torn into a thousand pieces and scattered to the winds.
KENNEDY knew the subterfuge within the CIA’s disturbing NARCOTICS interests and banksters tricks.
October 25th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Very interesting comments about the book, THE PLOT AGAINST THE CHURCH, representing the research of twelve VATICAN theologians.
COLLATE:
But then, don’t miss the book:
IN GOD’S NAME, An INVESTIAGTION INTO THE MURDER OPF POPE JOHN PAUL I, by DAVID YALLOP.
Interesting how the VATICAN BANK was so closely involved with NARCO profits, BCCI, and much much more, oh my.
It’s quite real, the NEW WORLD ORDER is not quite Republican bought and paid for. It involves many Democrats bought and paid for, and of course CORPORATISM. When a corporation was allowed recognition by the courts as a virtual PERSON, that meant ALL POWERS would be centralized by wealthy elitists.
ABE LINCOLN railed against the MONEY POWERS! So, did PRESIDENT KENNEDY, wanted a Federal owned central bank, not a PONZI SCHEME Federal Reserve system owned by PRIVATE and FOREIGN INTERESTS — Kennedy knew that, and so did many other intellectuals, including Ezra Pound.