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	<title>Comments on: Theoretical physicist and mathematician Freeman Dyson on global warming</title>
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		<title>By: Karmakaze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karmakaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mor MacFey

&quot;It found that many publications now claiming the world is on the brink of a global warming disaster said the same about an impending ice age – just 30 years ago.&quot;

That&#039;s what you get when you listen to the MEDIA. Of course if they had done the same study but of peer reviewed scientific papers, they would have found that for every paper suggesting cooling, there was 3 suggesting warming. Over time the evidence mounted and now NO ONE denies that the Earth is warming.

&quot;The Society of Environmental Journalists Spring 2006 SEJournal included a now-common media position, arguing against balance.&quot;

Actually, no they didn&#039;t. They argued that BALANCE does not mean telling a LIE beside the TRUTH. In other words, journalistic balance does not mean seeking out ANY contrary opinion, regardless of whether it has any merit at all. They argued that if &quot;balance&quot; requires printing KNOWN falsehoods, then all that is accomplished is the misleading of the public. And they are right.

The kind of &quot;balance&quot; that the liars and deniers rely on is like printing the views of the Flat Earth Society as being equally credible as the thousands of scientists who can PROVE the Earth is actually rather round. That kind of &quot;balance&quot; is how the elites keep you under control. Don&#039;t fall for it.

In fac this very site is full of people saying the exact same thing, when the media do it when discussing 9/11. But hey, who needs to be consistent in their views regarding media honesty? Let&#039;s all just jump back and forth as the mood suits us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mor MacFey</p>
<p>&#8220;It found that many publications now claiming the world is on the brink of a global warming disaster said the same about an impending ice age – just 30 years ago.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what you get when you listen to the MEDIA. Of course if they had done the same study but of peer reviewed scientific papers, they would have found that for every paper suggesting cooling, there was 3 suggesting warming. Over time the evidence mounted and now NO ONE denies that the Earth is warming.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Society of Environmental Journalists Spring 2006 SEJournal included a now-common media position, arguing against balance.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, no they didn&#8217;t. They argued that BALANCE does not mean telling a LIE beside the TRUTH. In other words, journalistic balance does not mean seeking out ANY contrary opinion, regardless of whether it has any merit at all. They argued that if &#8220;balance&#8221; requires printing KNOWN falsehoods, then all that is accomplished is the misleading of the public. And they are right.</p>
<p>The kind of &#8220;balance&#8221; that the liars and deniers rely on is like printing the views of the Flat Earth Society as being equally credible as the thousands of scientists who can PROVE the Earth is actually rather round. That kind of &#8220;balance&#8221; is how the elites keep you under control. Don&#8217;t fall for it.</p>
<p>In fac this very site is full of people saying the exact same thing, when the media do it when discussing 9/11. But hey, who needs to be consistent in their views regarding media honesty? Let&#8217;s all just jump back and forth as the mood suits us!</p>
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		<title>By: nikoli</title>
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		<dc:creator>nikoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK no joke,,, i live in australia and this is all you here, nearly every day on the t.v.... global warming,,, save the planet.

it is crazy.... how can 20 million australians stop global warming stop global warming, when china and america use so much more then us aussies..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK no joke,,, i live in australia and this is all you here, nearly every day on the t.v&#8230;. global warming,,, save the planet.</p>
<p>it is crazy&#8230;. how can 20 million australians stop global warming stop global warming, when china and america use so much more then us aussies..</p>
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		<title>By: usefull eater</title>
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		<dc:creator>usefull eater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if global warming was real wouldn&#039;t Al walk the walk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if global warming was real wouldn&#8217;t Al walk the walk?</p>
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		<title>By: j</title>
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		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an old childrens tale that my parents use to read to me before I fell asllep.  It&#039;s called Chicken Little - &quot;the sky is falling, the sky is falling!&quot;  

Remember it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an old childrens tale that my parents use to read to me before I fell asllep.  It&#8217;s called Chicken Little &#8211; &#8220;the sky is falling, the sky is falling!&#8221;  </p>
<p>Remember it?</p>
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		<title>By: Mor MacFey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mor MacFey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Journalists have warned of climate change for 100 years, but can’t decide weather we face an ice age or warming.

Thanks to the release of Al Gore’s latest effort on global warming – this time in book and movie form – climate change is the hot topic in press rooms around the globe. It isn’t the first time. 

     The media have warned about impending climate doom four different times in the last 100 years. Only they can’t decide if mankind will die from warming or cooling.

     As the noise from the controversy has increased, it has drowned out any debate. Journalists have taken advocacy positions, often ignoring climate change skeptics entirely. One CBS reporter even compared skeptics of manmade global warming to Holocaust deniers. 

     The Society of Environmental Journalists Spring 2006 SEJournal included a now-common media position, arguing against balance. But that sense of certainty ignores the industry’s history of hyping climate change – from cooling to warming, back to cooling and warming once again. 

     The Media Research Center’s Business &amp; Media Institute (formerly the Free Market Project) conducted an extensive analysis of print media’s climate change coverage back to the late 1800s. 

     It found that many publications now claiming the world is on the brink of a global warming disaster said the same about an impending ice age – just 30 years ago. Several major ones, including The New York Times, Time magazine and Newsweek, have reported on three or even four different climate shifts since 1895. 

http://www.businessandmedia.org/specialreports/2006/fireandice/fireandice.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Journalists have warned of climate change for 100 years, but can’t decide weather we face an ice age or warming.</p>
<p>Thanks to the release of Al Gore’s latest effort on global warming – this time in book and movie form – climate change is the hot topic in press rooms around the globe. It isn’t the first time. </p>
<p>     The media have warned about impending climate doom four different times in the last 100 years. Only they can’t decide if mankind will die from warming or cooling.</p>
<p>     As the noise from the controversy has increased, it has drowned out any debate. Journalists have taken advocacy positions, often ignoring climate change skeptics entirely. One CBS reporter even compared skeptics of manmade global warming to Holocaust deniers. </p>
<p>     The Society of Environmental Journalists Spring 2006 SEJournal included a now-common media position, arguing against balance. But that sense of certainty ignores the industry’s history of hyping climate change – from cooling to warming, back to cooling and warming once again. </p>
<p>     The Media Research Center’s Business &amp; Media Institute (formerly the Free Market Project) conducted an extensive analysis of print media’s climate change coverage back to the late 1800s. </p>
<p>     It found that many publications now claiming the world is on the brink of a global warming disaster said the same about an impending ice age – just 30 years ago. Several major ones, including The New York Times, Time magazine and Newsweek, have reported on three or even four different climate shifts since 1895. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessandmedia.org/specialreports/2006/fireandice/fireandice.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessandmedia.or.....andice.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Al Bollinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Bollinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, all well and good and even enlightening. But what then are we looking at. The polar ice caps are breaking up, the Russians are punching an alternative canal thru on two fronts. Weather patterns have gone crazy. The world weather vacillate between El Nino and La Nina. So according to physicists and climatologists whom I assume are in better position than I to know, its not carbon. Then whats goin on?? Who can deny that we are not in the midst of an ecological crisis, that species and rainforest are vanishing at an astounding rate and that this world is not inhabited by too many humans, of which I myself have been accused of being but am not altogether sure......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, all well and good and even enlightening. But what then are we looking at. The polar ice caps are breaking up, the Russians are punching an alternative canal thru on two fronts. Weather patterns have gone crazy. The world weather vacillate between El Nino and La Nina. So according to physicists and climatologists whom I assume are in better position than I to know, its not carbon. Then whats goin on?? Who can deny that we are not in the midst of an ecological crisis, that species and rainforest are vanishing at an astounding rate and that this world is not inhabited by too many humans, of which I myself have been accused of being but am not altogether sure&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Belzak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Belzak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>neon,

Just because water vapour is a greenhouse gas does not mean that there are no others. There are. Not just CO2 but methane too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neon,</p>
<p>Just because water vapour is a greenhouse gas does not mean that there are no others. There are. Not just CO2 but methane too.</p>
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		<title>By: neon</title>
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		<dc:creator>neon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>steve belzak says : However, there is clear evidence in the paleoclimatological record of a link between higher temperatures and higher levels of CO2. Indeed, were there not any CO2 on Earth it would be too cold for life. CO2 is a powerful greenhouse gas.

Yes! there is a link between temperature increase and c02 levels.. the c02 FOLLOWS the temperature change... the c02 increases or decreases based on temp fluctuations..and always AFTER THE FACT [period]
 steve belzk says: &quot;Indeed, were there not any CO2 on Earth it would be too cold for life. CO2 is a powerful greenhouse gas.&quot;

Powerful greenhouse gas?  Carbon dioxide forms approximately 0.04% of the Earth&#039;s atmosphere. POINT FOUR PERCENT. The major greenhouse gas is water vapor. WAR ON WATER VAPOR!

MIchael Crichton is an excellent researcher... has developed an analogy regarding the levels of c02 in the atmosphere...this analogy allows for a sane and reasonable perspective.

&quot;In his must-read eco-thriller, State of Fear, Michael Crichton creates a brilliant visual to assist us in wrapping our minds around the components of Earth’s atmosphere.  On page 387, he likens the atmosphere to a football field.  The goal line to the 78 yard-line contains nothing but nitrogen.  Oxygen fills the next 21 yards to the 99 yard-line.  The final yard, except for four inches, is argon, a wonderfully mysterious inert gas useful for putting out electronic fires.  Three of the remaining four inches is crammed with a variety of minor, but essential, gases like neon, helium, hydrogen and methane.  And the last inch?  Carbon dioxide.  One inch out of a hundred-yard field!  At this point I like to add, if you were in the stands looking down on the action, you would need binoculars to see the width of that line.  And the most important point-how much of that last inch is contributed by man-made activities?  Envision a line about as thin as a dime standing on edge.

So... lets bankrupt the economy, throw our sovereignty out the window, allow sweeping new powers and invasive &quot;carbon-trading schemes&quot; to &quot;combat&quot; global warming! 
Heck, the climate change &quot;GODS&quot; say they just might, maybe, perhaps, possibly,might be able to trim a wee percentage of that &quot;dime on edge&quot; amount of c02 we humans actually contribute.MAYBE.

Still, these white-robed deacons of the Church Of Global Warming just want to save your soul, and you&#039;d better listen to them....
you don&#039;t want to burn in Earth, do you?

I appreciate you&#039;re points steve, but really once a person understands that c02 levels  FOLLOW temperature...there is no more debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>steve belzak says : However, there is clear evidence in the paleoclimatological record of a link between higher temperatures and higher levels of CO2. Indeed, were there not any CO2 on Earth it would be too cold for life. CO2 is a powerful greenhouse gas.</p>
<p>Yes! there is a link between temperature increase and c02 levels.. the c02 FOLLOWS the temperature change&#8230; the c02 increases or decreases based on temp fluctuations..and always AFTER THE FACT [period]<br />
 steve belzk says: &#8220;Indeed, were there not any CO2 on Earth it would be too cold for life. CO2 is a powerful greenhouse gas.&#8221;</p>
<p>Powerful greenhouse gas?  Carbon dioxide forms approximately 0.04% of the Earth&#8217;s atmosphere. POINT FOUR PERCENT. The major greenhouse gas is water vapor. WAR ON WATER VAPOR!</p>
<p>MIchael Crichton is an excellent researcher&#8230; has developed an analogy regarding the levels of c02 in the atmosphere&#8230;this analogy allows for a sane and reasonable perspective.</p>
<p>&#8220;In his must-read eco-thriller, State of Fear, Michael Crichton creates a brilliant visual to assist us in wrapping our minds around the components of Earth’s atmosphere.  On page 387, he likens the atmosphere to a football field.  The goal line to the 78 yard-line contains nothing but nitrogen.  Oxygen fills the next 21 yards to the 99 yard-line.  The final yard, except for four inches, is argon, a wonderfully mysterious inert gas useful for putting out electronic fires.  Three of the remaining four inches is crammed with a variety of minor, but essential, gases like neon, helium, hydrogen and methane.  And the last inch?  Carbon dioxide.  One inch out of a hundred-yard field!  At this point I like to add, if you were in the stands looking down on the action, you would need binoculars to see the width of that line.  And the most important point-how much of that last inch is contributed by man-made activities?  Envision a line about as thin as a dime standing on edge.</p>
<p>So&#8230; lets bankrupt the economy, throw our sovereignty out the window, allow sweeping new powers and invasive &#8220;carbon-trading schemes&#8221; to &#8220;combat&#8221; global warming!<br />
Heck, the climate change &#8220;GODS&#8221; say they just might, maybe, perhaps, possibly,might be able to trim a wee percentage of that &#8220;dime on edge&#8221; amount of c02 we humans actually contribute.MAYBE.</p>
<p>Still, these white-robed deacons of the Church Of Global Warming just want to save your soul, and you&#8217;d better listen to them&#8230;.<br />
you don&#8217;t want to burn in Earth, do you?</p>
<p>I appreciate you&#8217;re points steve, but really once a person understands that c02 levels  FOLLOW temperature&#8230;there is no more debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Belzak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Belzak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t doubt tah these changes can be used by global eletes for tehir own ends.

However, there is clear evidence in the paleoclimatological record of a link between higher temperatures and higher levels of CO2. Indeed, were there not any CO2 on Earth it would be too cold for life. CO2 is a powerful greenhouse gas.

The historical data does not show a global warming period in medieval times, but a regional one, since climate can be affected by such things as heat transfer caused by ocean currents.

Happy to debate with you guys. Prison Planet does a good job, although I disagree on this particular issue.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t doubt tah these changes can be used by global eletes for tehir own ends.</p>
<p>However, there is clear evidence in the paleoclimatological record of a link between higher temperatures and higher levels of CO2. Indeed, were there not any CO2 on Earth it would be too cold for life. CO2 is a powerful greenhouse gas.</p>
<p>The historical data does not show a global warming period in medieval times, but a regional one, since climate can be affected by such things as heat transfer caused by ocean currents.</p>
<p>Happy to debate with you guys. Prison Planet does a good job, although I disagree on this particular issue.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: wageslave</title>
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		<dc:creator>wageslave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There have been numerous ice ages in Earth&#039;s lifetime. What happens in between ice ages? THE PLANET WARMS UP.
How come when the Romans were able to grow grapes in Britain, the planet didn&#039;t become uninhabitable?
Why is Greenland called Greenland when people think it should be covered in ice? Could it be because wheat could be grown there when it was named?
This information used to be in History books. Why isn&#039;t it now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been numerous ice ages in Earth&#8217;s lifetime. What happens in between ice ages? THE PLANET WARMS UP.<br />
How come when the Romans were able to grow grapes in Britain, the planet didn&#8217;t become uninhabitable?<br />
Why is Greenland called Greenland when people think it should be covered in ice? Could it be because wheat could be grown there when it was named?<br />
This information used to be in History books. Why isn&#8217;t it now?</p>
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