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Truth booth: The Obama delusion
London Guardian
Monday, Nov 3, 2008
Ralph Nader’s youth spokesperson, Ashley Sanders, thinks the Obama phenomenon has all the appearance of an activist movement for change – but none of its content
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22 Responses to “Truth booth: The Obama delusion”
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November 3rd, 2008 at 12:43 pm
A country that is 99% brain dead has no hope of ever electing a wise man like Nader. It’s terribly sad. We are the country of wasted opportunity. I’ve never questioned that there is an “elite” group who controls this country as well as all others, but I often question if there’s really anything that unites them beyond the same propensity for selfishness, the desire for superiority, and the unfettered greed that any of us are capable of succumbing to.
November 3rd, 2008 at 12:47 pm
No offense, Umm, but how about a movement that actually wins the election?
November 3rd, 2008 at 12:50 pm
That’s great, Ashley. Ron Paul is right in line with your thinking
November 3rd, 2008 at 2:26 pm
I have a simple question for everyone. How is the vote counted and WHO provides the final
tally? Seems like a simple question, right? But, try to google it and see what you get. Nobody frickin knows. We know how the Miss America pagent compiles it’s votes and American Idol. But try to find out how our precious vote gets recorded and verified. Nope. Nada. Big secret.
Democracy my As*!
November 3rd, 2008 at 3:01 pm
There will soon be a time for all patriots to come forward to fight.
Dark times are ahead of us and we will need to keep our wits about us as well as clear focus on the goals of liberty and the rescue of our republic.
Obama will only be too happy to use those FEMA camps maybe even more than McCain.
Arm yourselves and be ready.
Thanks to George Bush we may never recover our freedom but at least we can figth for our cause. Better die on your feet than live on your knees.
November 3rd, 2008 at 4:46 pm
There are patriots and there are the sheeple. The sheeple who just want to be left alone. They just don’t seem to know that they are not being left alone. Their lives are being stripped away from them. They seem to think that Jerk A is going to be a better choice than Jerk B. Who is all but a carbon copy of his opponent. They both say almost the same things. Which are determined by their parties what the people want to hear. Looking back at the voting history of these clowns why would their parties believe that they could possibly be a good choice. If we get out of this situation that our country is in we seriously need to have a very good education system, and teach our children how to not get screwed by the government to know and understand our Constitution. To learn how to grow as people. We can certainly spend more on education. Cut the DOD budget in half and spend that on the people. Just think how rich our lives could be. We could one again be the greatest country in the world, and we would have the statistics to prove it. Lead by example, that’s what the true world leader will do.
November 3rd, 2008 at 4:50 pm
I agree with Ashley.
Theyve successfully made America’s people into Machines, Zombies if you will, and there is no getting threw to their fried brains. Hasnt anyone looked at random people in the mall or anywhere?? You can see it in their eyes, the veil of delusion has emptied their souls out of their eyes. the only way to kill zombies is to shoot them in the brain..could that be the same for Amerika, Maybe We all need to wack our fellow Zomericans in the head, maybe theyll snap out of it? Television & Flouride a good Zombie-Cocktail…..
I was Against Obamessiah from the beginning, based on his dirt, and the scandalous way him and his media monsters, outright & unfairly stole & ruined the election of Hillary Clinton, those are also the same people who blurred any peep of info about RonPaul to the public-Out here in California i saw signs for him EVERYWHERE at the beginning of the primaries, now all i see in Bizerkeley & Santa Cruz and all over California highways and bumpers, is OBAMA its like the plague has finally reached California, and all these neo hippies out here bought it !! DUMB SHITS!! I would expect more from cali’s liberal people.. its soo sad
F*CK VOTING!
I was against this election from the beginning, so nobody better tell me i cant bitch because i didnt vote!! Ive seen what it truely is and am activley choosing not to participate in it.
November 3rd, 2008 at 5:56 pm
no-one gets to run for president that has not already been cleared by the elite.
seriously it should have been nader,kucinich and paul running.
i would have voted for any of them.
they spend shovel loads of dough to convince the masses that they have democracy.
its really quite strange watching this process from the vantage point of a 9/11 truther.
does anyone else have this feeling they are living in another universe apart from the masses that adore these two candidates?
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:12 pm
All empires fail. Why would this one be any different? We have foolishly believed in our political class for decades when they were only elected because they had been found to be corrupt and suitable for use in their toolkit. As long as we have a national education office setting policy and indoctrination standards, nothing will change for our nations future. We have to start with our youngest and wrest control of their education back to the local level where it Constitutionally is required to be.
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:45 pm
Was that a boy or a girl? The way our society is becoming so perverse, it’s getting hard to tell. Here’s some advice for you leftist morons, boys should have short hair and girls should have long hair.
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Sheep – the “Sheeple” have gotten too used to having their Hummers, scrapbooks, credit cards, cell phones, 5,000+ square foot houses, and all the other pretentious, empty creature comforts of this world.
Ashley may be young, but she has hit the nail right on the head. By the way, it was 3 nails and please forgive us Jesus.
Once the sheeple lose their basics – water, food, and shelter – then they will wake up, but unfortunately, it will be too late for them.
I pray that all of you will soon wake up and realize what is about to happen.
PRAISE GOD.
November 3rd, 2008 at 8:48 pm
There is an old truism that says “never ask a question that you do not know the answer to” and this is equally true when conducting a poll.
These polls are conducted in such a way that there is not just the one question asked. There is usually a lead up list of questions which lead the person being polled is lead to the answer the pollster wants.
The whole election is anything but democratic. It is a National election even though there in fact 52 elections with different rules for each State. Yes I understand that it is not the Nation that elects the President but the States. Then to add confusion to the chaos it is not the candidate who elicits the most votes but the candidate who wins the State with the most Electoral College points. Each State has a different number of points. Who decides which States are worth more that the other States to earn these points? I would have thought that each State had equal value.
I find it strange that the rules of these elections are geared to only the two major parties are encouraged to nominate. If these elections were truly democratic then should be open to anybody who can find sufficient money to pay the nomination fee.
As an outsider I believe that the result will be who ever have spent the most money on their campaign. This time around it is reported at opensecrets.org as of 27th October 2008 at being $871,526,000.00 for the whole campaign. Is it little wonder that the mainstream media only look at those with the largest budgets so that they get their share of that money in advertizing revenue, which has been Chuck Baldwin [Constitution] ($168,000) Bob Barr [Libertarian] ($1,000,000) John McCain [Republican] ($293,000,000) Cynthia McKinney [Green] ($119,000) Ralph Nader [Independent] ($3,000,000) Barack Obama [Democrat] ($573,000,000).
What do the candidates expect to get for this investment? A job for four years with a further 4 years possible provided they go through it all again. Then they must disappear into obscurity or do the lecture circuit. For John McCain that would not be a problem as he is 72 years old now and if elected would be 76 or 80 by the time he must stand down provided he survives that long.
November 3rd, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Demo- Mob
Cracy- Rule
Could it be the fact that over time since the banks control —> Goverment control —-> Public School Curriculum doesn’t it make sense that your “mob rule” would lead to total elite control by dumbing america down to the point, along with getting people dependent on free goverment hand outs, were they would beg for enslavemen??????????
THE REPUBLIC FELL A LONG TIME AGO WE ARE JUST ON THE EDGE
http://w-uh.com/images/world_IQ_over_time.gif
November 3rd, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Well said , very good use of language , articulate and to the point.
November 3rd, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Wow – she neatly and completely side-stepped the issue of who Barack Obama is, and why electing a broadminded liberal Christian with a muslim name, Kenyan roots and Chinese, English and Indonesian family might not only help to address some of the issues of American foreign policy, but actually be the creative solution that America is searching for right now, let alone the world.
If Obama is elected tomorrow, he will be, by far and away, and without a shadow of a doubt a President who is representative not only of Americans, but of the politically disafected everywhere, be they black, white, christian, muslim, rich, poor, young, old American or non.
In short, its about becoming the change you want to see, and embracing a more positive world.
November 3rd, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Well the banks are in control over government. We know this. That is why they continue to get off on crimes that I gravely reprehensible. However, while Obama might be with or sympathetic to the NWO, still feel we have a greater chance of making deeper civil rights strides with him than with a republican candidate.
November 4th, 2008 at 12:00 am
Ashley’s right, most countries see through our freedom and democracy propaganda. If this nation really had christian values, they would protect the innocent instead of taking advantage of them as well as enforcing our will on other countries. How many people are into their own game and indifferent to others is mind boggling to say the least.
November 4th, 2008 at 12:46 am
thats in reply to post number 11
November 4th, 2008 at 1:11 am
First off, let me say that the comments here are outstanding. People are beginning to wake
up to the fact that our Political system is a big fucking club..and unfortunately, your not
a member. The next three months could potentially be the most critical time in our nations
history. We now have a President who has trampled the Constitution during his time in office,
and for the next three months can act virtually without consequence. Vigilance is a must.
Now…for those who are going to vote for Obama. Hasn’t it become quite obvious by now
that he is being set up to take the fall for whats coming down the pike? He has been chosen to
be elected so that when TSHTF his dulcet tones and perfect syntax will sooth the masses
anger as they lose their jobs, and homes, and cars…and finally their dignity.
He might surprise us and go completely “off the reservation” as they say, but I doubt it.
The last President who tried that went to Dallas 45 years ago this month..
November 4th, 2008 at 4:19 am
Speaking of Iran I couldn’t believe that article that was posted yesterday on the US state department for Energy funding 2 institutions in Russia who are helping Iran to build Nuclear reactors, why was that not front page news for every news paper in the country? That is the smoking gun evidence of the manufactured middle east conflict in my opinion, people should be up in arms about this.
November 4th, 2008 at 4:58 am
Barack’s grandmother died, hhmmmm or was she murdered???????Very suspicious on the day of the election…..
November 6th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
this will be fun to watch.a freak show for the public.let the games begin.buy ammo.