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  • UN says eat less meat to curb global warming

    Juliette Jowit,
    London Observer
    Sunday, Sept 7, 2008

    People should have one meat-free day a week if they want to make a personal and effective sacrifice that would help tackle climate change, the world’s leading authority on global warming has told The Observer

    Dr Rajendra Pachauri, chair of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which last year earned a joint share of the Nobel Peace Prize, said that people should then go on to reduce their meat consumption even further.

    His comments are the most controversial advice yet provided by the panel on how individuals can help tackle global warning.

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    Pachauri, who was re-elected the panel’s chairman for a second six-year term last week, said diet change was important because of the huge greenhouse gas emissions and other environmental problems – including habitat destruction – associated with rearing cattle and other animals. It was relatively easy to change eating habits compared to changing means of transport, he said.

    The UN’s Food and Agriculture Organisation has estimated that meat production accounts for nearly a fifth of global greenhouse gas emissions. These are generated during the production of animal feeds, for example, while ruminants, particularly cows, emit methane, which is 23 times more effective as a global warming agent than carbon dioxide. The agency has also warned that meat consumption is set to double by the middle of the century.

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    43 Responses to “UN says eat less meat to curb global warming”

    1. wendyworn Says:

      The UN can kiss my hamburger loving ass~! I will do nothing to promote their evil, made up religion of global warming!

    2. Aeriola Says:

      I just got the urge to feast on a thick juicy fillet mignon thanks to this article. Thanks for the recommendation!

    3. thuja Says:

      dont be silly and act like little kids who are angry. this is a thing to do to improve your health and stop unspeakable animal cruelty.
      ignore their reasons to stop eating meat, and just do it.
      make 2 hamburgers, one without the meat, and notice that, as long as all the seasonings and onions and tomtoes, etc, are on it, it tastes the same.
      meat would really be terrible without seasoning, and eating it causes diseases.

    4. Robert the Cannibal UN commie eater says Says:

      Fuck the UN.

    5. Robert the Cannibal Says:

      Hey thuja, you may be right on that but don’t forget that the fuckin UN is NOT OUR FRIEND! THEY ARE NOT HERE TO HELP US BUT TO CONTROL AND DESTROY US DO YOU UNDERSTAND!! NOT EATING MEAT SHOULD BE EVERYBODYS OWN CHOICE AND DECISION.

      FUCK THE UN!!!!

    6. pljforall Says:

      This is not the reason to stop eating meat but you should at least make sure you only buy free range meats. Factory farming is one of the biggest sins going on on this planet. If you only buy organic, free range meats you will probably need to cut down on the amount you eat, just to make your budget work. All this is so good for your health. Stop buying all foods that come in packages, you are only supporting the NWO when you do. Only buy locally grown or organic produce to support the local farmers in your area. Learn to cook with basic ingredients. Organic dried beans are only $2 per pound as opposed to $1 per pound for non-organic crap. If you eat lots of beans you will be able to afford the higher cost of organic veggies and meats. We live in Mass. and keep 3 chest freezers full on our garden – we only have 1/4 acre planted. Grow your own organic veggies, once you start you’ll never stop.

    7. stiffypants Says:

      Catholics already have a meat-free day. Will they be required to have two? Or are they just weening everyone into Catholicism?

    8. Thought Police Says:

      They won’t attack Iran, nor will the U.S. Codex Alimentarius will be used instead on nuclear war to kill off ‘useless eaters’ instead.

      “Contrary to the propaganda, Codex Alimentarius has nothing to do with consumer protection. Nothing! Codex is about the economic ambitions of multi-national corporations, in particular, the pharmaceutical industry.

      Using their multi billion-dollar marketing budgets, these industries have launched a massive media propaganda campaign to paint Codex Alimentarius as a benevolent tool of “consumer protection”, as well as to negatively taint the image of natural health options and mislead people to fear them as “dangerous”, so they will take drugs (which really are dangerous). Natural health products and options have an amazing safety record and are remarkably effective, especially when compared to pharmaceutical drugs.

      Unfortunately, one-time defenders of health freedom such as National Nutritional Foods Association (NNFA) and Council for Responsible Nutrition (CRN) have joined the propaganda bandwagon and are spreading false information saying that Codex Alimentarius is either “harmless” or benevolent “consumer protection”. Neither is true.

      The membership of these one-time defenders of health freedom has become permeated by people from the pharmaceutical industry (for example, CRN counts as its members corporations such as Monsanto® and Bayer®).
      If Codex Alimentarius is implemented in the United States of America, therapeutic dosages of vitamins and minerals (and all other nutrients soon to follow) will become unavailable because they will literally become illegal.

      Here’s how it would work, in a nut-shell:

      Due to the junk science use of Risk Assessment (toxicology) to assess supposedly toxic nutrients, a false belief is being engineered saying that “nutritional supplements are dangerous to people’s health”.

      Using this false belief generates calls to “protect” people from these “toxic” nutrients. After the calls come the bills to set ultra low permissible dosages (remember, nutrients are deemed “dangerous toxins” under this false belief). If enough of us and our Congressional delegates buy this nonsense, we and Congress would blindly comply with Codex Alimentarius’ VMG. And blind compliance is what the industries behind Codex Alimentarius intend.

      Blind compliance goes hand-in-hand with lack of activism. This lack of activism allows our protective laws, classifying nutrients as foods with no upper limits (such as DSHEA), to be easily repealed and replaced with draconian laws to classify nutrients as toxins. And “harmonization” with the pro-illness, pro-pharmaceutical industry Vitamin and Mineral Guideline is there to fill the void.

      Only intentionally ineffective, ultra low dose supplements would be legal, with or without a prescription, on the VMG list. If enough people do not take action, we can expect to watch nutritional supplement manufacturers and, thus health food stores, to go out of business, in a domino effect. The only player left standing would be Big Pharma.

      Therapeutic grade vitamins, minerals, and amino acids would be eliminated from the marketplace (although a few low-dose supplements would be allowed by Codex, as a symbolic measure to avoid suspicion about their ulterior motive).

      Natural health professionals would lose the tools of their trade (nutritional supplements) and health conscious people would be unable to choose natural health options for health promotion and disease treatment.

      And that is, in a nutshell, how Codex Alimentarius is poised to make Natural and Nutritional Medicine (NNM) disappear from the legal health world and go underground. Who benefits? Big Pharma.

      It would take a few years for the above scenarios to be feasible (Codex Alimentarius is meant to go into full global effect by 2010). The slower the process takes, the less alarmed people will be. That’s probably the logic of the architects of Codex Alimentarius.”

    9. thuja Says:

      yss, cannibal, i agree. we should choose on our own, not be forced to.

    10. AndreaL Says:

      sorry Dr Rajendra Pachauri, If it’s all the same i think i’ll carry on eating what i want, when i want and you or anybody else ain’t gonna stop me.

    11. Hereward Says:

      In the middle ages, the upper classes ate lots of meat, and were large, strong, and intelligent, while the peasants were forced to subsist on mostly bread and vegetables, and were small, weak, and easily controlled. It seems to me that elite classes are feeling nostalgia for what for them were the “good old days,” and are trying to bring those days back by lying to us about nutrition.

    12. roberto Says:

      Presumably we will all have to eat GMO poisoned food instead of meat.

    13. Howard Says:

      Bull-oney! Eating less meat will help you live longer, but that’s it. Oh yeah, it will also help the cow-worshippers to be more at ease.

    14. E-rich Says:

      I read that it takes 16 pounds of soy and grain to produce a pound of meat…well what if the meat was not produced and the 16 pounds of FOOD would be sent to the hungry?!

      read also somewhere that the GMO beans would not grow as uniform and healthy plants as they was growing “on paper and computer screen”. So who knows wtf GMO products do to beings who eat that stuf, on the long run.

    15. Rob O'Loughlin Says:

      “the world’s leading authority on global warming”

      One of the World’s biggest liar’s, more like!

    16. George Says:

      I bet the UN will excuse soylent green from this prohibition.

    17. Paul T Says:

      Let’s face the facts all you so called “meat eaters” out there. There is nothing on your body, nothing, that you could use to catch and kill an animal. You have no sharp claws, no sharp teeth. Hell, most of you “meat eaters” don’t even have the guts to go into a slaughter house and see how your “meal” is prepared. Even the most fanatical meat eaters out there have to rely soley on some form of weapon to kill an animal whether it be a gun or a knife. And, even if one of you could catch an animal with your bare hands, even a lamb, without a knife you couldn’t eat it. You could not remove the skin of the lamb with you own hands and teeth. Without cooking it you couldn’t digest it. Humans have no teeth for ripping flesh from an animal. None. The so-called human “canine” bears no resemblance at all to the teeth of a true meat eater, such as a cat, dog, or similar carnivore. So, why do you so-called humans eat meat? Iron? Protein? Taste? Envy? Power? Stupidity?

    18. Thought Police Says:

      Well written, Paul T.

    19. Darth Vader Says:

      Paul T, With all due respect, you seemed to have overlooked the passage in the Bible about the fatted calf being slaughtered for the prodigal son.

      I am aware of a number of saints who have foresworn flesh meat, though not for health reasons, rather instead for mortifying their senses for spiritual gain. The fact is is that small amounts of meat on occasion are all the body needs, provided a balanced diet is adhered to.

    20. Paul T Says:

      The Bible as it is today, is not as it was written. It has become a playground for political and vested agendas. There are many references in the original Biblical texts against meat eating. In numerous places the word “food” has now been replaced with “meat”. So, with all due respect, if one wants to follow the teachings of the Bible, one should cease meat eating completely, as many christians do.
      For anyone else who wishes to be counted amongst the “human” species, 7 meatless days a week is the bare minimum.

    21. Patrick Says:

      In Genesis the bible outlined the animals which may be eaten and those which may not. That’s the OT. For you Christlovers, it is stated that he was enpowered to change the rules so that even pork was okay. If you think the slaughter houses today are cruel, and they are, just look at the way the animals were slaughtered for sacrafice to your loving God! Now, if your fluffy, invisible protector can enjoy the essence of the Burnt offering and relegate the leftovers to the priests, what’s your problem?

      Why should man have canines to rend the flesh of the beast? Does a lion have the ability to charge a round into the breech of a fine hunting Weatherby and bring down it’s food from a distance and then have the ability to build a fire and just barely char the outside? NO!

      The bible today is no more inspired by divinity than it was 2000 years ago. It was written by men and has been edited by men.

    22. Joe JT Says:

      These head honcho’s want you and I to eat government cheese and white bread. Meanwhile they make their decisions at a banquet table covered with shrimp, lobster, rib eye steak and filet mignon. Shut your fucking pie holes you fat fucks.

    23. HANNABAL the CANNABAL Says:

      I once had a visit from a U.N. censes taker… I ate his liver with a glass of Cianti. EEVVVVVVEEE slurp

    24. Jerky Boy Says:

      Puablo Honey is this Puablo?
      Yes… who is this?
      You bastard… washing you ass in Florida.

    25. Mike Knows Says:

      A cow needs no fertilizer (made from oil) and needs no pesticides and they eat grass! And the shit makes better fertilizer than from oil…. and there is no global warming to begin with. Global warming has been totally debunked and they still won’t stop spreading the lies.

    26. Artyom Says:

      The U.N. says stop breathing to curb global warming.

    27. Artyom Says:

      The destruction of the rainforest due to cattle rearing is mostly, if not only, from the fast food industry and hamburgers. They import beef from South America for the cheapest price to get a better cost profit ratio. I seriously doubt the existing agriculture would have a problem supplying beef products as long as China’s population doesn’t increase its consumption, which I heard it has done. The excuse of methane producting is just anti life. From bacteria to, us humans, emit methane… For some, they have fun doing it, proof found on youtube. To say meat is bad for health can be rediculous unless you don’t consume in moderation. We were born as omnivores after all. If you follow health officials you could go insane. One day salt is good for you, the next day it is bad. One day coffee gives heart disease, the next day it helps fight cancer. Moderation is key in diet. Plus without cows, there wouldn’t be the whole variety of tasty cheeses available. I love cheese, so there… As for a better message, stop being lazy and eating fast food. Cook and be with family and enjoy the experience. You’ll save the rainforest and be against a huge corporation that only neglects the environment and the consumer. Vote with your wallet. Peace.

    28. Karmakaze Says:

      Man there a lot of little children on this site, throwing tantrums like spoiled little brats. Personally, I like meat. Love it in fact, and I doubt I will change my meat consumption to fight global warming. I have other choices such as reducing fossil fuel consumption that I can choose. No one is FORCING anyone to eat less meat, despite what you retarded lunatics think. Pachauri simply made a suggestion for how people can help reduce GHG emissions, and people who aren’t insanely selfish arseholes are quite keen to hear such suggestions.

      Global warming has NOT been debunked, despite what ignorant retards like “Mike Knows” say. It is real, it is a threat and doing something to fight it is ALSO doing something to fight the elites! ONE TENTH of the entire economic output of this planet is given to the elites in return for energy. That is 6 TRILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR. That is where the elites get their money, and retards like these fools just LOVE giving that money to them, while bitching about what the elites then DO with that money.

      There are so may retards here it’s just not funny. Well, not totally funny, anyway.

      By the way Paul T, you retarded herbivore… we have one thing that makes us very capable meat eaters OUR BRAIN. And yes, we can and do often eat raw meat, idiot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare).

    29. MARIA Says:

      LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL……….How much more of this insanity are we supposed to listen to ? Is the UN fucken kiding ? Don’t eat meat because it’s in the Bible or don’t eat meat because it’s bad for you or don’t eat meat because they are mammals and it’s like cannibalism, but not ot eat meat for “Global Warning”, give me a freaken break already. I stopped eating meat 3 months ago and I feel better and lighter, but it was not for global warming.

    30. WhoddaWhadda? Says:

      ALEX!! Why is this in Sci-Tech? Please make a Sci-Fi section on yer site, that’s where stuff like this belongs!

    31. RayB Says:

      Karmakaze, I don’t agree with you on many things but I do agree with you that Paul T is a retard. I never heard such an idiotic argument around the shape of our teeth.

      Only primates have a thumb that works in opposite direction to the other fingers. The hand is mane to grab. Primate brains are made to think. One of our ability is to invent and fabricate tools. Even monkeys use tools.

      We tamed fire and made more tools. Some of those tools were made to hunt but also to kill other humans.

      If it was not for the high protein and fat content in meat, our ancestors would have never lived through winters and the last ice age.

      By the way, we are not carnivores but omnivores. And if you need to know, even your purest vegan eat proteins from animals… there are sometimes bugs in your vegetables. Without them, they would have serious deficiencies and necessitate food supplements.

      On the other hand, too bad we don’t have 4 stomach like REAL herbivores… we could fill them with more beer and bacon.

    32. Hilltoppers Says:

      The UN can eat me instead…

    33. Karmakaze Says:

      @RayB

      “Karmakaze, I don’t agree with you on many things but I do agree with you that Paul T is a retard.”

      I would just like to say that I personally don’t have a problem with people who believe that Global Warming is not a threat. What I have a problem with is people who distort the truth or outright LIE to push their beliefs. For example in this article a SUGGESTION is made as to how people COULD reduce their “carbon footprint”, but in the comments it turns into the “Evil UN” trying to dictate how we should live! It is utter bullshit! THAT is what pisses me off.

      What ALSO pisses me off is kneejerk anti-science reactions such as those seen here and elsewhere regarding the LHC. The vast majority of these commenters don’t even understand the BASICS of physics and then feel qualified to call real physicists crazy or stupid. I believe in regards to the LHC you and I do agree.

      The fact is they talk about a “global warming religion” here that is CLEARLY a bullshit characterisation of DECADES of scientific investigation by tens of thousands of the worlds best scientists. In fact the “anti-global warming” crowd are far closer to a religion than the scientists are because they believe what they do despite the evidence and with no possible way to change their mind. If you offer evidence you are propagandising, if you dispute false claims you are an NWO plant. In the end, they believe what they do based on “faith”. Not one of them can present a valid (meaning without lies or distortions) argument backed by evidence as to why they believe what they do. THAT IS RELIGION! When you question them on it they fly off into fits of rage. Just look at “TheTruthIsOutThere” he has NEVER offered any argument except pathetic grade school insults that he seems to think would disturb me (he’s wrong, I love it when he does it because it just shows how retarded he is).

      When I use the word retard, I am not using it as a reference to mentally handicapped, but to what it originally meant “slow” or “left behind”. You don’t have to have anything physically wrong with you to be so utterly ignorant that your understanding of a subject is “retarded”.

      I had one argument with a person on here (who disappeared after being thoroughly trounced) who did not even understand the basic chemistry of CO2, and literally thought that all the CO2 that ever existed was ALWAYS in existence, that CO2 was somehow dissolved in petrol and burning petrol simply released it rather than creating it.

      THAT is retarded! That sort of thing is taught to teenagers and is in NO WAY questionable, it has nothing to do with AGW it is simple chemistry that has been understood for CENTURIES. For an adult to have absolutely NO understanding of this to then call scientists liars or fools is a profoundly stupid thing to do. I mean it is beyond childish to claim to be smarter than a scientist while not even understanding the basis of the science!

      Paul T is just such a person. He obviously has no understanding pf even SIMPLE scientific truths such as that we humans and many other primates are omnivores with special adaptions that make us not only capable of eating meat but in fact we require it. I bet for example that Paul T does not know that chimpanzees regularly hunt for food, using their superior intelligence to corner monkeys for example and then literally beat them to death, before eating them. They do not have claws as such, and they do not use their canines to kill. They do what we did and use tools (rocks branches) and their bare hands to bludgeon prey. They even throw them out of high trees so that the fall kills them, similar to how Native Americans sometimes herded buffalo to cliffs so that they would fall off and die.

      A lion may have claws and teeth, but they have never developed those “tools” to be more efficient, they are the same now as when man first started walking upright. Man on the other hand has made progressive developments from rocks and deadfall (like chimps) to clubs and spears to bows and arrows and firearms. Our brain is what makes us the deadliest predator on the planet. What is truly interesting is that some scientists believe the reason WE became dominant is not because our brain got bigger, but rather the other way round. Our brain got bigger as a result of our diet and habits. When we stopped foraging and scavenging and actively became hunters, that required development of the brain to succeed. Thus the most intelligent animals on the planet are generally also predators (dogs, cats, dolphins etc) and the consumption of meat is required for the development of the brain. The meat makes it possible to have a large energy consuming brain (the adult male brain requires something like 1800 calories of energy per day simply to operate) and only predation requires it. You don’t need to have a big brain to outsmart a cabbage!

    34. RayB Says:

      Looks like we found something else we agree upon… the LHC.

      Keep your mind opened and visit this site: http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/

      The people there are not retarded. There are real scientist’s discussions in there and others learning.

      Cheers!

    35. Paul T Says:

      So I see there are many on this forum who believe Darwin’s unproveable theory of evolution, while spouting loudly science this and science that. Darwin’s theory is simply that. A theory. There is absolutely zero scientific evidence to support it, unless you call jumping on a fanatical bandwagon “science”. Darwin himself abandoned it in his later years. Science today is simply not science. It is manipulation of the masses for exploitation, nothing more nor less. True science means 3 things. Observation, hypothesis and experiment. But where is the experiment to show that a rock can become an elephant. Simply fantasy. There is no evidence at all of a “missing link” where humans have evolved from a lower species. Humans are and always have been humans and while it’s true that some humans (not all) have chosen to eat meat, evolved humans DO NOT EAT MEAT. Today, because humans have DEVOLVED to such an animalistic level, meat consumption is high, very high. So is the consumption of alcohol, drugs, junk food etc etc. These things are enjoyed by sub humans who actually have no understanding of the purpose of the human life. Two legged animals. Live like animals & die like animals never stopping to question what happens to me at the time of death. Ignorant fools. Destined to take birth amongst the animal species they have killed, and to be killed themselves, countless times. These are the facts and every fool who denies them will very soon see the truth for themselves. This is KARMA. Not the foolish, childish krazykarma who lives in a tiny village in New Zealand. KARMA. Action and reaction. These are the laws of nature and all the puny talk on this forum is 100% ineffective in changing these facts.

    36. TheTruthIsOutThere Says:

      Karmakase you really are PATHETIC

    37. THINK YOU IDIOTS! Says:

      THEORY=OPINION!
      EVOLUTION IS AN OPINION REPEATED SO MUCH IT IS NOW TAKEN AS FACT(AND IN OUR SCHOOL BOOKS)!
      THE BIG BANG THEORY IS THE BIGGEST PIECE OF SHIT I HAVE EVER HEARD OF TO DATE. GLOBAL WARMING,GLOBAL COOLING AND NOW CALLED CLIMATE CHANGE.

      WHEN WIL THE MADNESS END?

    38. THINK YOU IDIOTS! Says:

      @KARMAKAZE

      YOU ASSWIPE! HOW DARE YOU BE SO STUPID!

    39. fuk UN Says:

      These animals think their going to tell us what to eat and when to eat,FUCK the UN and all their bullshit,BRING IT ON MOTHERFUCKERS…Global warming is bullshit.PS.Dr Rajendra Pachauri,fuck you,may you die a violent death.

    40. Karmakaze Says:

      @RayB

      I have spent quite a lot of time at that site, and they often distort the facts or outright lie. For example on the front page now is:

      “I’ve always thought that the biggest issue with greens was not CO2 and AGW, but “progress in general”. This story seems to support that notion. Maybe they’ll get James Hansen to denounce it too. – Anthony”

      In reference to this article:

      http://news.yahoo.com/story/af.....YbUpiek3QF

      It seems a fair enough argument to make IF the groups mentioned are actually complaining about that plant. They reality is, if you read the entire article you will find this:

      “”Vattenfall managers talk a lot about supposedly environmentally friendly coal power stations but they are still planning and building conventional coal-fired power stations with high levels of CO2 emissions,” BUND’s energy spokesman Thorben Becker said.”

      Building ONE such “clean” plant while still planning and building the “dirty” plants is what is known as “green washing” – doing or saying something to make yourself SEEM ecologically friendly while in fact not really SUBSTANTIVELY doing anything.

      So Anthony Watts is supposedly pro-development, and this article shows that greens are actually anti-development. Of course coal fired power plants are relatively ancient technologies, even with this new method of sequestering the carbon output. Do a search on that site though and tell me if YOU can find ANY mention of the technological leap made by MIT that promises to do away with centralised power generation (itself an inherently inefficient process due to line loss). I tried and found NOTHING.

      Not ONE mention of a true technological breakthrough that is the closest to free energy we’ve ever come (solar/hydrogen). Why is Anthony Watts interested only in the OLD technologies if he is so pro-development? The fact is, he is not. All he is interested in is distorting the truth or outright lying to further his pro-fossil fuel agenda.

      Don’t take this to mean I automatically dismiss what he says, because at least he attempts to provide evidence and an argument, but when you study it closely it more often than not turns out to be misleading at best and outright false at worst.

      As another example, look at the next story on that page regarding UAH satellite data. He creates a nifty graph showing the monthly temperature anomaly for lower troposphere temperatures, and kindly points out it is -0.01 Degrees Celsius for August. This is all well and good, but a monthly average is WEATHER, not CLIMATE, as he well knows. If he was trying to be accurate he would have graphed the 12 month running mean (the mean of the last 365 days, rather than the last 31) which would have shown an anomaly of +0.047 Degrees Celsius. In fact at no time since 2000 has the twelve month running mean been negative! That shows that for the last 8 years at least, the world has been warming!

      This is what I mean about distortion. This year is clearly cooler than last because of El Nino, but it is still warmer than the baseline. Also he would have mentioned the decadal trend which is +0.129 Degrees Celsius.

      All of this is in the same data he cherry picked to show cooling. In fact if we play by his rules this year is actually hotter than last because TODAY is 0.23 Degrees Fahrenheit WARMER than the same time last year according to UAH:
      http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/a.....?amsutemps

      See, when you cherry pick data you can get it to show just about anything you want.

      But turn about is fair play, so I have a link to offer you in turn:

      http://www.realclimate.org/

      That site is RUN by climate scientists (unlike your link which is run by “a former television meteorologist”) although one of them is the hated Michael Mann. Here is the list of REAL working climate scientists who post there:
      http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?cat=10

      The list includes climate scientists from NASA, Penn State, the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), University of Massachusetts, Potsdam University, University of Washington, Rutgers University, and University of Chicago. I’m sorry but to me that list is a little more impressive than a “former television meteorologist”!

      Now maybe Anthony Watts has some climate scientists posting in his comment section, but that is NOT the same as the blog actually being RUN by climate scientists. Still, maybe you would care to enlighten me as to who these scientists are that comment at Anthony Watt’s blog?

      Anyway, my point is not to say that Watts’ qualifications are inadequate, but that he clearly spins everything he posts to push a clear agenda: “fossil fuel is good”. Even his posts regarding possible mitigation strategies ALL revolve around how to combat the effects of raised CO2, rather than ways to REDUCE CO2!

      —-

      @Paul T

      So, you’re a creationist AND a vegetarian AND a global warming denier? Basically you’re just anti-science, right Paul? Retard!

      Go sell your bullshit spiritualism to someone retarded enough to believe it. What’s next, crystals and astrology? Idiot.

      —-

      @TheTruthIsOutThere

      You are a retard!

      —-

      @THINK YOU IDIOTS!

      “WHEN WIL THE MADNESS END?”

      When natural selection finally rids us of morons like you, I suspect.

    41. Paul T Says:

      Like I said krazykarma. Some people like to spew out volumes of vomit proclaiming they have some knowledge of “science”. You sir, have a future. You sir, don’t know what that is. You sir, are going to find out whether you like it or not. Does the name YAMARAJA mean anything to you? Does the medical condition “terminal restlessness” ring a bell? You don’t believe in karma eh? Then why do you use the name? Why not give yourself a more “scientific” title? Why use a flakey title that goes against your so called “scientific beliefs”? Karmakaze, “One who is on the path to self destruction”. I think it fits nicely. Enjoy the future that YOU are creating, one mouthful at a time. What goes around, comes around. And there’s nothing you can do or say to stop it.

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