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  • UPI Editor Equates 9/11 Truth Activists With Fort Hood Killer

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    Paul Joseph Watson
    Prison Planet.com
    Tuesday, November 10, 2009

    A career Neo-Con hack with intimate ties to the CIA has shamefully exploited the tragic massacre at Fort Hood last week to smear anyone who questions the official 9/11 story as a gun-toting terrorist intent on mass murder on a par with crazed killer Nidal Malik Hasan.

    In an opinion piece, UPI editor at large Arnaud De Borchgrave disgracefully claims that, “There are tens of thousands of Hasans all over the Western world — from Brussels to Berlin and from Burgos, Spain, to Birmingham, U.K.,” before making the case that anyone who dares doubt the government’s version of events on 9/11 is an extremist hell-bent on metering out “jihadi violence” like Hasan did when he gunned down scores of his colleagues.

    “For them, Sept. 11, 2001, was a conspiracy cooked up by the CIA and Mossad, Israel’s external intelligence service,” writes Borchgrave.

    Borchgrave’s bellicose hit piece harks back to the November 2007 hearing of the Homeland Security Subcommittee’s “Terrorism and the Internet,” which was broadcast on C-Span and chaired by California democrat Jane Harman, sponsor of the infamous HR 1955, “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007.” During the hearing, a powerpoint demonstration from Mark Weitzman of the Simon Weisenthal Center ludicrously equated Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, an organization consisting of professionals who are investigating the collapse of WTC 7 and the twin towers, with violent Islamic terrorists.

    Borchgrave outlines his argument with the usual turd-load of ad hominem drivel and half-baked strawman claims. At no point whatsoever does he present any evidence that Hasan embraced 9/11 conspiracies, which would totally contradict seperate reports that Hasan is linked with members of Al-Qaeda.

    “Even though al-Qaida’s Osama bin Laden and his No. 2 Ajman Al-Zawahiri have both taken credit for Sept. 11, countless millions are convinced they had nothing to do with the attacks on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon,” he writes.

    If Borchgrave had bothered to do one iota of research before spewing his vitriol, he would have discovered that on numerous occasions immediately after the attacks, Bin Laden explicitly denied responsibility for 9/11.

    In a statement released to the Arabic satellite channel Al Jazeera and reported on by CNN on September 17, 2001, Bin Laden said, “I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons. I have been living in the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan and following its leaders’ rules. The current leader does not allow me to exercise such operations.”

    Asked if he carried out 9/11 by the Pakistani newspaper Ummat on September 28, 2001, Bin Laden responded, “I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle.”

    The only person to “take credit” for the attacks was a dubiously fat Bin Laden lookalike who appeared on a videotape that was broadcast on December 13, 2001. Freedom Of Information Act requests attempting to validate the tape’s authenticity filed with the FBI, CIA, Department of Defense, and CENTCOM were met with a refusal to release any records. The FBI’s Most Wanted page still fails to list 9/11 on Bin Laden’s rap sheet because “the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11,” according to FBI agent Rex Tomb.

    The tape was allegedly found in a house in Jalalabad after anti-Taliban forces moved in. It featured a fat Osama laughing and joking about how he’d carried out 9/11. The video was also mistranslated in order to manipulate viewer opinion and featured “Bin Laden” praising two of the hijackers, only he got their names wrong.

    This Osama also uses the wrong hand to write with and wears gold rings, a practice considered abhorrent to the Muslim faith.

    A German TV Channel One investigation found that the White House’s translation of the video was inaccurate and “manipulative”. One of the experts employed by the program to study the video concluded that the translation was “Very problematic – at the most important places where it is held to prove the guilt of Bin Laden, it is not identical with the Arabic.”

    “Prof. Gernot Rotter, professor of Islamic and Arabic Studies at the Asia-Africa Institute at the University of Hamburg sums it up: “The American translators who listened to the tapes and transcribed them apparently wrote a lot of things in that they wanted to hear but that cannot be heard on the tape no matter how many times you listen to it.”

    In his hit piece, Borchgrave recycles a number of strawman issues that aren’t even embraced by the majority of the 9/11 truth movement in a pathetic effort to equate questioning 9/11 with Holocaust denial, which routinely serves as the last refuge of those who are losing the argument and have to resort to intimidation in an attempt to demonize the target of their attack.

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    Borchgrave’s motivation for smearing people who question the official version of 9/11 as crazed killers would be something of a mystery if not for the fact that, as a result of his dutiful lifelong propaganda in service of the U.S. military-industrial complex, he was tapped for recruitment by the CIA on two separate occasions and has remained in close contact with the Agency throughout his career as a journalist.

    Borchgrave considered his “key, best sources of information” in the world the heads of “intelligence services in Washington, London, Tel Aviv, and Pretoria, each of which I stay in close contact with.”

    Borchgrave was also affiliated with CAUSA, an “educational organization” created in New York City in 1980 by members of the Unification Church at the suggestion of Rev. Sun Myung Moon (owner of Borchgrave’s primary employers, UPI and the Washington Times), that sought to propagandize in favor of the Contra leadership during the time when they were being armed and funded by the CIA during the Iran-Contra scandal.

    Borchgrave dispensed with any of the tenets of a true journalist more than 30 years ago by acting as an apologist for government deception and disinformation. In 1978, he told the Covert Action Information Bulletin that it was acceptable for authorities to oversee “management of the news” in order to “put the best face possible face” on what they were doing.

    Borchgrave infamously peddled a hoax story in a crude attempt to generate support for the war in Iraq in 2003. According to SourceWatch, “Borchgrave was instrumental in laundering a story about a recanting peace-activist who “saw the light” in Iraq before the war. Although Joseph went to Iraq to protest against the impending war in 2003, while in Baghdad, he changed his mind, and now favored the war. It transpires that this was a hoax, there was no “Kenneth Joseph”, and the details can be read here.”

    Borchgrave’s TV appearances are handled by Benador Associates, a public relations firm that provided enthusiastic Neo-Con cheerleaders for the war on Iraq during the now exposed Bush-Pentagon military propaganda program.

    In May 2006, Benador were disgraced when it emerged that they had planted a fake story that later appeared in the National Post of Canada claiming that “Iran’s government had passed a law requiring Jewish residents to wear a yellow insignia — reminiscent of the policies of Germany’s Nazi regime.” The story was planted with the aid of Iranian exile Amir Taheri, who was later brought to the White House to consult with George W. Bush as an “expert” on the situation in Iraq.

    According to the PR group’s founder Eleana Benador, planting fake stories in the media is a noble pursuit. “As much as being accurate is important, in the end it’s important to side with what’s right. What’s wrong is siding with the terrorists,” she told the Nation, who exposed the PR firm in an article entitled “Bunkum From Benador”.

    As a result of his doting fealty to the U.S. war machine, some commentators have accused Borchgrave of being an outright disinformation agent, peddling his own brand of bunkum on a regular basis.

    Again from SourceWatch, “William Preston and Ellen Ray wrote a history of disinformation in the U.S., and observed: “The greatest assistance in disinformation – especially during the current Administration – is always forthcoming from the Reader’s Digest. In 1977 the Times exposed Digest editor John Barron as having worked hand in glove with the CIA on a book about the KGB. Other fraudulent journalists like Robert Moss, Arnaud de Borchgrave, Daniel James, Claire Sterling, and Michael Ledeen, among others, seem to pick up disinformation themes almost automatically. In fact, coordination between the development of propaganda and disinformation themes by the covert media assets, the overt propaganda machine, and the bevy of puppet journalists is quite calculated. A theme which is floated on one level – a feature item on VOA about Cuba for example – will appear within record time as a lead article in Reader’s Digest, or a feature in a Heritage Foundation report, or a series of “exposes” by Moss and de Borchgrave or Daniel James in some reactionary tabloid like Human Events or the Washington Times or Inquirer. Then they will be called to testify by Senator Denton’s Subcommittee on Security and Terrorism, repeating one another’s allegations as “expert witnesses”.

    “After that they are given credibility by the “respectable” Cold War publications like the National Review, Commentary, and the New Republic. And finally, since they have repeated the theme so many times it must be true, they are given the opportunity to write Op Ed pieces for the New York Times or the Washington Post.”

    The fact that the truth movement is being attacked and equated with terrorists for suggesting high-level government involvement in 9/11 by a man who has more spook connections than James Bond and less journalistic integrity than the average National Inquirer hack should serve as a badge of honor.

    Borchgrave’s inane rantings have provided us with the perfect opportunity to expose him and his ilk for exactly what they are – intellectual prostitutes for the establishment with no credibility, no facts, and an agenda completely focused around lies, deception and bias.

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    161 Responses to “UPI Editor Equates 9/11 Truth Activists With Fort Hood Killer”

    1. Dilbert McGunnut Says:

      I would invite Arnaud De Borchgrave to give us a plausible explanation to the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11/01. It’s been years and we are still waiting.

      Jane Reply:

      Shit just got real.

      12 1/2 INCHES Reply:

      Looks like the C.I.A was plotting another false flag operation

      1. To silence the truthers

      2. To justify the Lie and Spy program on Americans

      3. To have people look to the Government as the answer

      Quantummonkeybutt Reply:

      In My Opinion As a Military Tactician, Arnaud De Borchgrave Is A CIA And British Spy, Who May Have Given Up His TITLE OF NOBILITY Publicly, But With This Recent Development, It’s Obvious Where His Loyalties Lie…He Can’t Be Called A ‘Traitor’, Because He Isn’t American, But He’s Still A Piece Of Shit If He Defends The ‘911′ Traitors And The ‘New World Order’ Anyway…

      “Born in Belgium to a Belgian count, Baudouin de Borchgrave d’Altena, who was head of Belgium’s military intelligence for the government-in-exile, during World War II. Arnaud de Borchgrave was educated in Belgium, Britain and the United States. He served in the British Royal Navy from 1942 to 1946, from the age of 15, after running away from home and using falsified papers on his age to enlist in the service. He gave up his title of nobility in 1951.[1]” Wikipedia, Nov. 2009

      QMB
      I Think You Know
      Where My Loyalties Stand

      Quantummonkeybutt Reply:

      NOT TO WORRY, OUR PROUD MILITARY WILL DEFEND YOU!!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....esh+div-HM (STRIPES)

      QMB
      If Any Of Youse Call
      Me Francis, I’ll Kill ‘Ya

      ERIKTHERED Reply:

      A BRIEF SUMMARY WOULD HAVE SUFFICED BETTER. EVERYONE AND THERE MOM IS A DISINFORMANT AGENT NOW CONSIDERING WE LIVE IN HELL ON EARTH. HURRY, SEND ME A POSTCARD WITH A MAGIC RIBBON AND A TELLETUBBIES EXTRAWIDE PENTAGRAM SO I CAN CAST A SPELL ON MYSELF BEFORE TOTO PISSES ON MY GENETICALLY ALTERED VEGTABLE GARDEN.

      networking for truth on alex jones myspace blogs

      Colonel X Reply:

      That’s all this is.

      Go to

      http://www.prouty.org

      to learn more.

      That is all!!!

      cicero Reply:

      “Never let a good crisis go to waste” – Rahm Emmanuel

      fist of fun Reply:

      “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”

      -CIA Director William Casey

      fist of fun Reply:

      “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”– William Casey, CIA Director

      “The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.”–William Colby, CIA Director

      FFTDJ Reply:

      Put it under “glows like the sun.”

      Put it under “things vampires avoid.”

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbzdO0EPOGg

      Quinny Reply:

      Mr. Watson,
      Very nice piece. Should be required reading for ANYONE who still
      gets their “news” from the MSM. Project Mockingbird is alive and well.

      Gordon Reply:

      Act of god !

      You are all paranoid delusional freaks !

      Get a job.

      Osama orchestrated this.

      you cant be serious Reply:

      Osama? BWAHAHAHAHAHA! The boogeyman DOES exist huh? Emmanuel Goldstein much?

      BR549 Reply:

      Gordon, get a grip. I’m sure you’re sleeping tight at night in your jammies, knowing that our own government could NEVER be responsible for heinous acts like that (9/11).

      Shit, it’s now common knowledge that the sinking of the USS Maine and then the Gulf of Tonkin incident were all staged. It’s even been all over the HIstory Channel, for crying out loud, but as long as you buddy up to Fox News for answers, you, my friend, are going to have an awfully rough time making sense of the world. Try looking up Operations Northwoods if you want to see just how evil some of these people can be.

      DickyW Reply:

      No, as long as he cozies up to CNN then he won’t get the truth. Fox has filtered news too but no where near the extent as the rest of TV land. Fox is the only news that covered Jones, Acorn (few exceptions,Dobbs) etc. Admit it! So there are worse stations than FOX for news. That’s my point.

      Eyes Open Reply:

      And the History Channel is owned by Disney, for Christ’s sake!

      no Reply:

      Dicky, you poor sap, Fox is actually the WORST of our media crop. Perhaps you were asleep for the 8 years they sold the wars and covered up Bushcos every crime? ACORN is mainly a patisan non-story, which is why Fox obsesses over it. When was the last time that scumbag liar Beck or Fox mentioned AIPAC or blackwater? NEVER. CNN sucks, but there is no station worse than Fox. With all due respect, wake the fuck up sir.

      meanjean Reply:

      Hey, guys, it was just sarcasm. :)

      Dragon's Eye Reply:

      Gordon, just go drink your “Koolaid” and go back to sleep, like a good sheep!

      Death to Traitors Reply:

      This liar’s day is coming soon.

      AREALPATRIOT Reply:

      I JUST PRINTED OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. i AM POSTING THEM ALL OVER MY TOWN. iTS TIME PEOPLE. pRINT THEM OFF YOURSELF. DO SOMETHING . NO MORE TALK. IF WE CAN ALL UNITE AND CLAIM OUR POWER WE MAY HAVE A CHANCE. pUT THEM ON POLICE CARS ON BULLITENS ON PUBLIC OFFICE BUILDINGS. PUT THEM SO EVERYBODY KNOWS ITS TIME. WE DONT HAVE MUCH TIME. LETS LITTER AMERICA WITH WHAT WE ARE. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. OUR CHILDREN DEPEND ON US.

      Dragon's Eye Reply:

      Ooooh! Better be careful!!! THOSE are ‘terrorist literature’, you know!!! >;=(OO)====

      The government said so! >;=(OOO)====

      Commander Clash Reply:

      Yeah, carry that around is contraband. If you aren’t careful you’ll be black bagged and be in Gitmo before you can say “We The People”. It’s time that We The People stand up against our oppressors!
      Stand Up! Speak Out! Never Be Silenced!
      Commander Clash

      Dale Reply:

      Thank you for that Dilbert McGunnit. Nobody can provide plausible scientific explaination for anything that happened on 911. These gov’t contract jackasses are serving up JUNK SCIENCE and propaganda in order to prop up a BULLSHIT war based on the PREPOSTEROUS ‘official’ account of 911. Goddamn it, THE TRUTH IS GOING TO PREVAIL.

      will hale Reply:

      i hope so
      i am so despondant

      meanjean Reply:

      Cheer up, sweetheart, it will only get worse.

      Fuck you all Reply:

      You stupid fucking people know it all don’t you if you would ever stop
      To think about something else other than your
      Dumb ass it would be something.
      You write your opinions and bitch for what!
      To fucking afraid to standup ?????
      Well I’m not-
      Tim Chreech
      United Bank and trust 517 265-5525
      517 265-5525

      517. 265 -

      meanjean Reply:

      You want us to call you or what?

    2. Warron Terrer Says:

      Is anyone surprised? There should just be a new network on cable called CIA-TV and skip with all this middle-man bullshit.

      Dean Reply:

      They do not need to, the CIA has been infiltrating the media through Operation Mockingbird since the 50s. CNN was caught in 2000 having army psyops working with them. Anderson Cooper worked for the CIA(probably still is).

      Dragon's Eye Reply:

      Oh! 2000! I thought I had first heard about 1500! I guess they felt “the more, the merrier”! Just interesting, the military working in a ‘news room’! I still am in awe over how FAR our beautiful country as gone down the Sxxxhole!!!

    3. Billo Says:

      Another good reason to ignore the mainstream media. The whole thing is bought and paid for, CIA approved propaganda.

      meanjean Reply:

      True, but I still watch on occasion, just to see what the enemy is up to. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

      Dragon's Eye Reply:

      Sun Tsu’s “Ancient Art of War”!!!

      meanjean Reply:

      :)

    4. cooper Says:

      Other honorable members of other countries have already offered assistance in telling us what they knew about 9-11. The American people thank you! Our own government was involved. That is a fact.

    5. jim Says:

      Oh snap! They are on to us!

    6. horace manoor Says:

      That swedish politician backtracking was really disappointing, so I guess this is the new tactic. Reduce anyone who talks about 911 truth to anti-semitic terrorists and abuse people who question this ‘new reality of physics’ where buildings fall due to fire (2+2=5) to prevent any semblance of truth getting into the mainstream.

      That swedish guy should have had more courage. It’s his world too and his children’s they’re destroying and no amount of CYA activity is going to stop it, until people start standing up against this verbal propaganda. He had his chance and failed miserably like he couldn’t have found another way to earn a living where he could hold his head up.

      jim Reply:

      TPTB don’t like when we figure out their game. At least with this 911 story, it don’t effect our investments one way or another, although it has indirectly affected mine, whenever the govt. patsies insist on something being true, it behooves me to question authority. Thus buying metals after the 911 “attacks”, not buying a house when I had halfmillion mortgage offers from banks but knew I had trouble making the payments on my f150. that kind of thing.

    7. guyfox Says:

      short film about veri chip and the new world order called resist the mark of the beast kinda cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmvCFd866R8 if you likie john edwards you will love this

    8. JoJo Says:

      Another BETTER than good reason to ignore the mainstream media–All Kosher blessed for Gentile consumption.
      Does anyone know if USA media has a watchdog agency or at least Ombudsman or guidelines to operate for a license ?
      Sure does not appeared to be.

      Dragon's Eye Reply:

      Yeah! It was SUPPOSED to be the Federal Communications Commission!!! There again, the big telecoms have total control of FCC decisions anyway!!!

    9. Pete Says:

      The harder they try to paint logical people who question this highly corrupt government as ‘madmen’, there will only be a stronger backlash.

      Something or other about ‘protest too much’ I believe.

      jim Reply:

      the quicker we can get a real investigation the quicker we can execute who is responsible for setting up the 911 attacks and move forward in this country. Till that happens, the whole country is going to shit.

      meanjean Reply:

      Player Queen:
      Both here and hence pursue me lasting strife,
      If once I be a widow, ever I be a wife!

      Player King:
      ‘Tis deeply sworn. Sweet, leave me here a while,
      My spirits grow dull, and fain I would beguile
      The tedious day with sleep.

      Player Queen:
      Sleep rock thy brain,
      And never come mischance between us twain!

      Hamlet:
      Madam, how like you this play?

      Queen:
      The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

      Hamlet Act 3, scene 2, 222–230

      Dragon's Eye Reply:

      Most will not even have a clue as to how this posting relates to this discussion topic.

      meanjean Reply:

      Sorry, just giving Pete his quote source. Sometimes I go cut and paste crazy:)

      Commander Clash Reply:

      Unfortunatly meanjean, methinks not even the play will be the thing to catch the conscious of the would-be king.
      Stand Up! Speak Out! Never Be Silenced!
      Commander Clash

    10. Disgusted Says:

      Read my lips Mr. Arnaud De Borchgrave. 9-11 was an inside job. Your masters did it!!!!!

    11. BeTrueSeekTruth Says:

      There was a segment on CNN friday evening in which Anderson Cooper was interviewing an “exspurt” via phone. The conversation seemed almost scripted. It kind of reminded me of the “bystander” who was on the scene during the 911 attacks and gave a way too smooth and detailed explanation of the events that had occurred just hours before. Did anyone catch this interview? If so, can you provide details? Thanks!

    12. Russell Wooldridge Says: Says:

      Hey you stupid assed ‘patriots’ (patsies) why the hell are you in AMERIKA still when you can run away to lovely Margherita Island, a Venezualen PARADISE. All the natives here are poor and uneducated so they are easily exploited! I got my house for a song and I’m still laughing all the way to the bank where I keep my millions that I make off of the cheap labor here. Come join me and my family. We have native servants that cost us less here than bus fare in the rotten USA and they are grateful to get the work. I can help set you up in your own little KINGDOM here and it doesn’t matter what you do for a living as all the laws here turn a blind eye to anyone with money if you catch my drift. An opportunity like this won’t last forever so get on board NOW. Go to my websitewww.escapethestates.com and soon we can both laugh at the jerks who stayed behind.

      Russell Wooldridge Reply:

      THE POST ABOVE IS NOT DONE BY RUSSELL WOOLDRIDGE, I DID NOT WRITE THIS.
      It is illegal to impersonate someone without their permission. This ad above was done by someone else. Dude your fucked up, dont you have anything better to do with your time then chase someone around thats trying to make living, and help folks in the process.

      shocked and awed Reply:

      Sure sure. We all want to sell real estate on margarita island. I’ll stay here with the rest of the folks that you called “turds” thank you very much.

      SUA SPONTE Reply:

      no I do not think the actual Russell Wooldridge wrote that comment. now Russell everyone on this site here is tired of your spam. I do not think anyone on the board is interested in fleeing the U.S. we are brave people that are going to stay, resist, defend, die, win or whatever our fate will be. if you have gotten any leads from here…than work them, if not it shows I am correct. only a few of the response you get are from people who I am sorry to say have no way they can afford to move, the majority of people here think along the line of a speech (king Henry) from the battle of St. Crispin . (from memory)” let he who has no stomach for this fight let him depart, rounds from the convoy will be put in his purse, WE would not die is his company who sheds his fellowship to die with US.

      Russell Wooldridge Reply:

      I have a huge insrease in friends from here and clients, its worked out great for me and the others that choose to use my services. You probably stay there because you did not see the warning signs years ago, so you did not save or look elsewhere. The United states must break apart and the economy must be reborn based on sustainability not growth. When that happens ill be the first one back to live in northern cali.

      satyn Reply:

      Please don’t bother, by then we’ll have an asshole quota so you’ll be turned back. By the way, if things are so good why can’t you aford an ad you racist piece of shit.?

      meanjean Reply:

      Well said, SUA. Russell, get lost.

      CTLovesNathanHale Reply:

      Ha — busted, Russell! Spouting globalist propaganda about how the united states will break apart. Nice try, traitor. Patriots are going to clean house here — the REAL United States of America will never die, just multiply!

      Dragon's Eye Reply:

      Russell, it IS people who profiteer, like you, in the worst way that gives true Patriotism a BAD NAME! Just because YOU chose to “run away” from your problems, rather than at least trying to be PART OF THE SOLUTION does NOT mean anyone else is obligated to act as you! You, Sir, are a COWARD and a LEECH; a stain upon the honorable traditions and customs of being a “Free American”!

      If you have a business, then you need to pay for the advertising you are receiving by posting your URL here! This site does COST MONEY TO BE ONLINE 24/7! I would imagine the admins will eventually catch up to you and demand you quit posting commercial links in your comments! How about you support this site by BUYING YOUR ADVERTISING like every other honorable business!!!

      JERK!!!

      shocked and awed Reply:

      Well said Dragon’s Eye! Nice to see you back by the way.

      SUA SPONTE Reply:

      Russell Wooldridge Says:

      November 9th, 2009 at 7:25 am
      There is no more that can be done in the states, its like the titanic hit the iceburg and is sinking fast and instead of getting in the lifeboats yall are bitchin at each other, the ship is not coming back up people. margarita island is full of opportunity cheapest cost of living in the world, 4 cent a gallon gas free health care no taxes, no hurricanes, all food is organic by law. for more info check out http://www.escapethestates.com I have plenty of references from people I have moved down here, jump on the underground railraod and find out what it is like to live in a country that has alot more freedom then the united states. Put your money in a different currency and get out with it and dont look back. soon the dollar will be worth nothing, then you are stuck like a turd in the toilet. thanks for listening, if you need help contact me, My wife and I have plenty of knowledge about living here on margarita island we moved here 3 years ago with 3 small children and 3 dogs. We had to get our kids away from the toxic foods and environment. We can help you escape the states no matter what situation you are in,

      Reply

      Truth Reply:

      November 9th, 2009 at 8:44 am

      Russell,

      If you want to help people out that’s great. But the fact of the matter is you get paid for doing it, so for now shut the hell up about the US being the Titanic. Even if you are right, you are only saying so to scare the hell out of people in hopes they will run to you for your paid assistance. You sound just like an ambulance chasing attorney. And this is not the first spam I’ve seen you post. This is not an ad farm so pack your shit up and leave. If we need your services we’ll find you.

      Reply

      Russell Wooldridge Reply:

      November 9th, 2009 at 9:02 am

      Well this is the only thing ive posted. Im not a scam artist and alot of what I do is free.We have plenty of money here in bolivares that I saved up from being a machinist and owning a landscaping company, so it is not all for money it makes me feel good to help people, thats who i am and I am soory but your going to change me. Some people do understand what is going on, im not trying to scare people. This is my life this business, I have no other things i post, but an ad for one thing thats this website. You can see the website photos of my whole family living on this island full time and We are not leaving it any time soon, and I use my real name. I challenge you to find one person ive scammed.

      Reply

      SUA SPONTE Reply:

      November 9th, 2009 at 9:52 am

      have to agree. your post makes you look like a patriot for profit. put a pitch together, cut Alex in and you will be a sponsor/guest. to keep posting the same paragraph makes it spam. period. it you want to post about your island. then show how the benefits you claim will be helpful or unhelpful based on the topic being discussed, now your providing a solution in which your services may be referenced and adds some credibility.

      shocked and awed Reply:

      November 9th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

      If you have soooo much money then BUY an ad asshole!!!

      Russell Wooldridge Reply:

      November 9th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

      Sorry if you dont like it I have plenty of folks that do. And the free advertising is working very well.

      shocked and awed Reply:

      November 9th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

      I guess Margherita Island isn’t all that you say then if you have to cheap out like this. Makes one wonder what else you’re LYING about.

      Russell is a lying pig Reply:

      Quit spamming us you fuck, or more of us will impersonate your fucking troll ass. Pay for an ad at least, motherfucker.

      You need to be gutted like the swine you are.

      SmartNSexy Reply:

      LOL

      BoomerBob Reply:

      LOL!!! Funniest thing I’ve ever seen on PP!

      Russell Wooldridge Reply:

      Patriotism is racism and arrogance, there is a whole world out there, the borders are meant to limit your rights, we are residents of the earth not the USA, the flag is just a worn out tired dirty blood soaked rag, get over it what your fighting for is to stay in basicly gamorrah. Most likeliy god will allow the states to be punished for all that it has done all the widows and orfans and all the wars they won. You live in the largest terrorist state in the world and you do nothing about it except bitch, this make you an accompolice the the crimes. The united states is about the most untrustworthy, not caring about human rights country and the world, dont you even read the stuff on this site, who brings down there own twin towers and kills there own people for profit, lusitania, gulf of tonkin. Sorry but youve been duped into think you must stay, again there is a whole world out there and most of it aint attacking other countries near and far. When it gets too bad ill be here. Your even so stupid you probably knew about the federal reserve scam and never moved your money out huh. I am doing ok because I had the ball to pick up everything and move, and i think your ancesters did the same when they came to the states from europe. How do you defend this stuff just face it facta are facts and you lost this argumanet a long time ago.Your simple sheeple that know your getting fucked and wont do anything about.

      Russell Wooldridge Reply:

      Im sure your family came from europe some time ago, go bitch and moan there.

    13. 9/11 Truth is: Says:

      9/11 Truth is:

      1.) Holocaust deniers
      2.) White rascist
      3.) Fort Hood troop killers
      4.) Iranian supporters
      5.) Right-wing extremist
      6.) Al-Qaeda sympathizers
      7.) Communist

      et.al.

      . Reply:

      http://www.takeourworldback.com/itwasntmuslims.htm

      Jef Wallace Reply:

      GENIUS GENIUS GENIUS GENIUS.

      this link should be turned into a freaking ***BOOK***.

      Dragon's Eye Reply:

      Whatever! Just regurgitating the same, tired, old, unsubstantiated denials and name-calling!

    14. kangaroo Says:

      I read a great idea in relation for the continuation of networking information and ideas through out the world, we all should consider ‘running’ BBS networks from now concurrently with the net, that way there is an established network with established users.Perfect for the time the www or ww2 becomes illegal or corporate.
      “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself”…. so let’s start cracking!!

    15. president christian Says:

      I have tried to put out some evidence on here, but there again webmaster Watson has censored my post. All I can say is you freaks are so paranoid and looking for conspiracies to get your rocks off. Just like the Y2K was thge end of america and the new world order was going to take over the world with the plot of Y2K- NOTHING EVEN FUCKING HAPPENED. Then this summer there was going to be bloody riots in the streets of america this website said and then on top of it they stated there would be a bank holiday and all banks would shut down in September or early October, this is the website that told everyone to get there money out of the banks. Well lets see it is mid November and all is well. You people cant even get your predictions right, let ALONE trying to tell people 911 was an inside job. I do have to say though you freaks are entertaining.

      go away Reply:

      Why do you ALWAYS bring up Y2K? GET A NEW TALKING POINT MORON. What kind of logic is that anyway? 9/11 truth DOES NOT equal “Y2K”. You sixteen year old jackass. I think you forgot “tye dye” and dreadlocks” you predictable faggot.

      go away Reply:

      FACT-a majority of people who think 9/11 was an inside job of some sort have never even thought about Y2K. You make ZERO sense. Seriously, this line of “logic” only makes you look foolish.

      Eyes Open Reply:

      “Y2K” was a made-up stunt intended to desensitize people to the idea of a world-wide societal collapse. It was bullshit from the beginning – “Our computers won’t know what to do, and they will turn into rampaging monsters!” Please – no one who is computer-savvy thought anything bad would happen, and at the worst the computer would be showing the wrong date. The propaganda machine succeeded in whipping up a panic, though, and many people were genuinely surprised when nothing happened. This is a classic example of “The Boy Who Cried Wolf” tactic being used to make average people less likely to view the potential for future calamity as an actual possibility. Now, any time anyone talks about 2012, most people dismiss them as a conspiracy nut. Unless it’s Roland Emmerich, of course, in which case it is just another desensitization tool. Any time you see John Cusack saving humankind, the bullshit screen immediately goes up, and “2012″ is turned into just another excuse to pig out on popcorn. The goal is to have a bunch of idiots standing around with their dicks in their hands when the shit really hits the fan, and I’d say it’s working pretty well so far.

      dog Reply:

      So explain how wtc 7 collapsed due to fire, at free fall speed neatly into it’s own footprint without toppling over asymetrically, using basic physics as your proof, for example Newton’s law of the conservation of momentum!

      And forget the predictions, as no one ever said that this was a psychic website that predicts the future. There are always indications of possibilities from news events, but who ever said this website can predict the future? As far as anyone knows, the criminals probably read this stuff on a daily basis and plan their crap accordingly to discredit the truth…just like you try to do…weasel

      president christian Reply:

      I have tried numerous times to put websites and facts on here regarding wtc#7 and alot of other facts that prove your all wrong. Of course mr watson the faggott keeps censoring my post. I know the goverment put explosives in the building and the black boxes are gone and as far as I am concerned there really were no planes or even a 911 or a world trade center. It is all a hoax and so is newyork it does not even exist either do the boogeymen terrorist. We are all just in one big conspiracy and they are out to get you and me. I am so paranoid it is all a conspiracy to takeover the world. As far y2k it proves they spout off on here alot of false info asshole.

      president christian Reply:

      Y2K!!!!!!! DREADLOCKS! TYE DYE FREAKS!!!!! FOX RULES!!!!!!

      meanjean Reply:

      You’re the hoax, dear.

      Quinny Reply:

      Y2K was a “false flag” operation to distract you from the fact that you
      were losing your shirt in the stock market as the tech bubble burst.

      meanjean Reply:

      Main Entry: con·spir·a·cy
      Pronunciation: \kən-ˈspir-ə-sē\
      Function: noun
      Inflected Form(s): plural con·spir·a·cies
      Etymology: Middle English conspiracie, from Latin conspirare
      Date: 14th century
      1 : the act of conspiring together
      2 a : an agreement among conspirators b : a group of conspirators

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      You prove, President, that a bunch of towel-heads and box cutters brought down the entire government defense system on that day.

      Russell is a lying pig Reply:

      Thanks for the post, Recon.

      Dragon's Eye Reply:

      PC! The Y2K issue was trumped-up BY THE ‘MAIN-STREAM MEDIA’, NOT by the truth movement. The government was also partially responsible for the “hype” and fear-tactics!

      GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!

      Dragon's Eye Reply:

      Yeah! That did seem like a “re-CON”-type of post, didn’t it???

    16. Royal Drag Queen Says:

      surprise surprise, you must of seen this coming? there trying everything in there power to destroy truthers and the truth about 911 what a great way to ban guns.. Were going to see alot more shootings to attack people with weapons..

      Jef Wallace Reply:

      is it just me…

      …or did this clown just give us a BIG HINT that it was MOSSAD just now ???

      to elaborate:
      * even Truthers do not have a definitive finger pointed at MOSSAD, because of clouds of disinfo and so many possible collaborators (pakistan ISI, internal american gov’t assholes, etc)
      * MOSSAD puts the MEDIA into the mix
      * i just found out myself about the Security company that had the contract with the WTC – how they were a MOSSAD front.

      it is 2009.

      i am a dedicated truther and I JUST FOUND THIS OUT.

      my god, i think jewish people are rad, i love their food, i love their jokes.

      it is not like me to say a shred of anything anti semetic.

      BUT I HAVE ALL THE CONFIRMATION I PERSONALLY NEED TO SAY:

      9-11 WAS CREATED, PLANNED, AND EXECUTED BY THE MOSSAD IN CONJUCTION WITH THE CIA.

      THIS CLOWN HAS STATED AS MUCH, AND I WANT TO SEE SOME JUSTICE ******NOW******.

      CUT OFF ALL OF ISRAEL’S FUNDING. ******NOW******.

    17. The Bohemian Grove FLU Says:

      Anybody question truthers is a cover up artist. And may be involved in aiding and abetting.

    18. David OKeen Says:

      David OKeen Says:

      November 10th, 2009 at 10:52 am
      Well done Alex!! the awakening continues check out this awesome video from UK rockband!
      Towers of Babylon!! cool stuff
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDAz0j3tIy8

      Reply

    19. gravel kucinich paul nader Says:

      UPI
      9/11 liars
      Anthrax intimidation

      Homeland Gestapo Police State
      Likud Joe Lieberman and Bibi
      Backlash Neocon AIPAC
      Projection much?

    20. Pat Says:

      Thats why in a recent report (outside the Post Office) the CIA has the highest amount of subtance abuse, divorce, and suicide then any othe Government agency.

      I think its possable most of them know what they do to the public, but it seems like the CIA still operates like a bunch of pussies.

      I will even bet CIA agents cant even find women to date (or even please them), have no outside friends, and are clearly brainwahsed not to help the people, but destabilize our country.

      These pussies cant even interogate their own POWS in the “War on terror”, instead they send them abroad.

      WHAT A SAD LIFE AT THE AGENCY!

      This is also the place that smuggled in Coke during the Contra scandel and taught black drug dealers how to make crack, and is controlling the Herion trade right now.

      And they say now if you buy/sell drugs you support terror

      Then I guess the CIA is the biggest terrorists now…..welcome to their “Jihad” people!

      meanjean Reply:

      Hey, you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.

      shocked and awed Reply:

      Better than getting up with a hangover because you work for the government. ;)

      meanjean Reply:

      Yeah, but at least it felt good the night before:)

    21. cooper Says:

      9-11 truthers are patriots standing up for our country so the truth will be known. Forgive me for getting off topic, but I would like to make an analogy.

      Jane Burgermiester is suing Baxter and WHO for the benefit of all of us. She is a hero. I am sure the UPI editor, Arnaud De Borchagrave, has a problem with her also exposing the truth about swine flu and the vaccines.

      http://www.theflucase.com

      Mass vaccinations

      Last Updated on Monday, 12 October 2009 09:12 Written by Jane Burgermeister Wednesday, 05 August 2009 23:00
      Next >

      In the next few weeks, you could be forced to take a toxic vaccine against the „swine flu“, be quarantined and restricted in your travel and all because the World Health Organization has declared a global pandemic emergency of the highest level, namely level 6, and so triggered global martial law in spite of the evidence that the swine flu is harmless.

      As a result of this pandemic level 6 declaration, the USA, Europe and other countries have moved from civil law to military law.

      Refusing a WHO-mandated vaccination has been criminalized under provisions related to public health emergencies. Police can use deadly force against “criminal suspects,” that means, they can take you to prison or even shoot you if you refuse.

      There is, however, scientific evidence that the WHO mandated vaccine will be toxic and potentially deadly.

      WHO developed a method to use vaccines to kill people in three steps which were described in memos dated from 1972 in a three-pronged approach, to weaken the immune system, inject a huge dose of virus into the body, which the weakened immune system cannot fight and inject a adjuvant that will create an inflammatory reaction and a cytokine storm and so kill in three steps as outlined in the 1972 WHO memos.

      Also, the vaccines will have the adjuvant squalene known to cause the Gulf War Syndrome. The vaccine will be rushed through without adequate safety trials.

    22. Robert Says:

      Paul Joseph Watson’s article is first rate. It’s true that the Jane Harman’s and Borchgraves of the world give me more hope, in that we are getting the quality numbers of adherents to the 911 truthmovement. It clearly scares the hell out of them. The louder they squeal the more confident I am that we are on the right trail. Let’s keep the pressure on these thugs.

    23. MARIA Says:

      OF COURSE HE DID. WE KNEW THAT WAS COMING !!

    24. moira Says:

      TO CANADIANS: Fifth Estate covers Richard Gage…check out A&E for truth. Will it be a hitpiece like BBC? Pre-emptive strike: Let them know you won’t tolerate biased coverage!!

    25. Tim S. Says:

      Favorite part of this article: The use of the word “turd-load”.

    26. Michael "Orangefu" - ParadigmProject.com (beta version) Says:

      Ouote of the Day: “There are tens of thousands of Oswalds all over the Western world…”

      De Borchgrave’s comment was an assault on liberty and peace.

      wildcat Reply:

      Ouote of the Day: “There are tens of thousands of Oswalds all over the Western world…”

      Now, who is sounding paranoid?

    27. Joe Says:

      Treat that man like any other garden variety terrorsit and strip him of his rank, dishonorably discharge him and toss his ass into Levinworth.

    28. DHSreallybugsme Says:

      Those who watched the controlled demolitions on Sept 11 and could not accept the truth of what they were actually watching are probably a bigger danger to the U.S. than those of us who accept the truth. These people actually aid and abet the crimes of their government by denying the truth, and through ignorance allow the administrations to continue on the long path of sovereignity destruction.
      A lot of peoples’ minds would self-destruct if they found out their “government” was truly lying to them and was responsible for such a horrific act. It goes against their logic, or “what they were told”. It takes them out of their illusory “comfort zone”.
      Some people are so desperate for the illusion of comfort and security, they refuse to see things for what they truly are, and label those around them who dissent and question as whackos. This is exactly what the Obamanauts and their puppetmasters want….scared people who will rat on just about anyone to stay “free and safe”. Watch your backs, and be safe.

    29. C.Verity Says:

      Note: I have seen many authentic bin Laden videos in which he is wearing gold rings. It’s obvious “fat bin Laden” is a fraud, but the rings have nothing to do with that.

      Quinny Reply:

      I think writing with the wrong hand is key. Try writing with your non-favored
      hand to see the results. For most it would be nothing more than scribble.

    30. SH Says:

      There is nothing George Bush and his Nazi henchmen will stop at in order to waste our time trying to convince us that Muslims hate Americans.

      This is nonsense. The shooting at Fort Hood was the fault of the Army for discriminating against this guy and it is HE who is the victim here – the victim of George W. Bush.

      George W. Bush must be rounded up, arrested and put into jail immediately.

      Everyone KNOWS he killed thousands of people by personally plotting and manufacturing the 911 plot. The people who flew those planes into those buildings were all programmed by the CIA so GWB could turn around and blame “the Muslims”.

      The Muslims are trying to live in peace with the Israeli Jews – but the Jews are nothing but trouble makers and worked with GWB to blow up those buildings on 911.

      This so-called “Muslim shooter” is just bull.

      Just look at his face and you can tell for yourself, it was the US Army under GWB still commanding it in the background who discriminated against him and forced him to do the shooting – another CIA plot, just like 911.

      THE TRUTH IS OBVIOUS IF YOU OPEN YOUR EYES AMERIKA AND QUIT BELIEVING GEORGE BUSH AND THE NAZIS.

      Thank goodness we at least got Obama and the democrats in office to put an end to this NWO takeover that was going on.

      jim Reply:

      agreed. george w bush should be held responsible for his attacks on 911, and be publically executed, preferable by lethal injection supplied by baxter industries.

      Learning Reply:

      Does SH stand for sh!thead? The truth IS obvious, you’re an anus.

      Dragon's Eye Reply:

      SH ain’t gotta a clue, do he????

      Quinny Reply:

      General Poppycock: “Obama’s stalling on giving us more troops
      to protect the opium and the pipeline. Any suggestions?”

      General Hokum: “I got it! Don’t we have a Muslim Major down at Fort
      Hood that is ready to snap? Let’s give him one last dose of “the vaccine”
      to push him over the edge. Once he goes off, no way Obama can turn
      us down for more troops”.

      General Poppycock: “I like it! Com’n..I’ll buy you a drink in the officers club.”

    31. FFTDJ Says:

      The truth is too hot for people like Debauchgrave, the salivating holocaust exploiter.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbzdO0EPOGg

      Dragon's Eye Reply:

      ” De-bauch-grave “!!! Hmmmm! I like that!!! >:=(OOO)====

    32. FreeThinker Says:

      Min control/remote viewing all CIA unelected secret people doing the exact oposite of what they claim they are doing! Abolish the secret services or make them tell the public the truth of what they are doing!!!!!!

      meanjean Reply:

      Your right about the mind control, et al. But they are in cahoots to bring this country down so they can establish their Luciferian NWO. They tell the truth about nothing.

    33. AlexneedstoRebuke IckeandHisreptilianBS Says:

      You Icketards eat reptile $hit
      –and as for you New Agey/karma/’frequency’ freaks and apologists/explainers for Icke—y’all can eat $hit from my chakra!

      THINK—What if the headlines had read: “Fort Hood Killer Believed World Run By Shape-Shifting Reptilians”
      “Hasan Listened To Conspiracy Theorists David Icke, Alex Jones”
      Thank God that wasn’t the case- but it could have been! It is nuts to believe such things however it’s what has been said by a regular guest on the Alex Jones show. Jones has never called David Icke on his reptilians bull$hit. Thanks a lot Icke and you Icketards! Thanks for giving ammo/reason for the media to broad-brush all anti-NWO/truthers as kooks in the eyes of the masses.

      Thanks a lot Alex- for including that poison in your message. As you yourself Alex have described disinfo agents as being like rat poison-being 99% good food, that it’s the 1% disinfo that ruins everything. You’re message is tainted with that little lump of feces in an otherwise good dish of truth Alex- the poison of whack-job nonsense like what Icke has put out. Just last thursday on your show, your own guest Joe complained about Icke and his reptilian crap and you STILL wouldn’t rebuke the BS, you simply said that “Icke has put out 99% good info” BUT ALEX- apply your own rat poison analogy to Icke dammit!!
      He’s either a purposeful Weapon of Mass Distraction BS artist agent, or a real asshat- either way he should be shunned like a serious Jew or Adventist shuns pork.

      Also you have Alan Watt on often, the guy who said things in his first book which I have like ‘television’ is a jewish/illuminati plot, because it’s really te-LEVI-SION, a term the conspirators made up occulticly don’t you know. Now you consider Watt some kind of ‘expert’ on things, so much that you feature him in your latest film.

      He’s not even just ‘disinfo’, David Icke is total whackjob/retard info, at least that’s a proper way to see anyone who believes his crap. Truthers/anti-NWO/Patriots didn’t need that douche Icke giving reason for the mainstream to paint us as kooks/fruitcakes/whackjobs that all believe such retarded crap- that the world is run by shape-shifting reptilians. Icketards who still listen to Icke after the guy has said such nonsence and even claimed to be the ‘Christ for the New Age’ need to get a mental enema and take the REAL ‘red pill’ with a big dose of reality. I notice now that neither Watt nor Icke repeat the most bizarre things they’ve said before when they’re on your show.. No doubt at least others have rebuked them enough to make them back off from their most crazy crap.

      I hope to God some nutball believer in Icke’s reptilian $hit doesn’t go postal and shoot people. That’s all we need for the sheeple masses to hear- that “a crazed conspiracy theorist” who “believed in a New World Order run by shape-shifting reptilians” went berserk and killed some polititians or whoever. I suppose the same f***sters who did the MK-Ultra whammy on Oswald, Sirhan and McViegh etc. could easily find an Icketard who happens to listen to Alex and program them to go postal like these shooters or drive a bomb truck like they did McViegh. Mind control is real, people have been made to believe they were abducted by extraterrestrials so that the rest of us might see them as more believable since they really believe it themselves. I’m not giving them any ideas that they haven’t already thought of (and done).

      Those who are disgusted with the way Alex has Icke on the show often but won’t get Icke to denounce his reptilain $hit need to tell Alex so, and demand Icke apologize for hurting the image of truthers etc. in the eyes of the many.

      The Bohemian Grove FLU Reply:

      Read his Book The Biggest Secret. I read it the Winter of 2000. See what had happened since he wrote that book. Before you espouse bogus crap. The reeference to Reptiles
      is a Reference to certain people with low concience ness that think they are really really

      great. Very Sociopathic and tend towards to Narcism

      http://personalitydisorders.su.....psychopath

      if you can read

      Dragon's Eye Reply:

      Spiritual Mind: Always mindful and thoughtful before taking action or judgment.
      ^
      Human Mind: Some Ego-centric actions and possessiveness, capable of forethought.
      ^
      Ape Mind: Aggressive and possessive, can be very Emotional without reasoning.
      ^
      Mammalian Mind: Very protective and Emotional, although without much forethought.
      ^
      Reptilian Mind: Very reactionary, without any forethought!

      * * *

      I would believe that David Icke would understand these very-well! I don’t necessarily agree with all of his points, but he does have some good research behind him!

      Icke Had Your Mum Reply:

      Here’s a simple fact and I hope it sinks into your tiny hate-filled mind. Just because Alex has a guest on his show doesn’t mean he endorses 100% what the guest has to say.

      Jef Wallace Reply:

      And just because we comment on this forum, doesn’t mean we hear much of his show. This site has great search engine optimization and a bunch of people find it just because it’s talking some sense and doing some real news.

      If we had journalism worth a damn we wouldn’t need Alex Jones, the big newspapers would be telling us all about how the fed is a hoax and the vaccine is genocidal etc. Unfortunately, such a thing as a truth-telling mainstream outlet barely exists if at all (look at jon stewart shilling for the vaccine).

      The people commenting here don’t have anything to do with Icke or Jones and it is exciting to see a bipartisan reaction brewing on these comment boards etc.

      Jones was AWESOME in his cameo in Waking Life. Richard Linklater is a genius.

      Quinny Reply:

      There is a “reptilian” part of the brain. It is where we get our “fight or flight”
      response from when we are in danger. I’m sure if you dig around a little bit you
      can find out about the biology behind it. If you tune out EVERYTHING ELSE
      here because you dislike ONE guest, well, that’s your loss.

    34. USMC Grunt Vet Says:

      Russia get your fucking spooks out of America

      Iran get your fucking spooks out of America

      Israel get your fucking spooks out of America

      China get your fucking spooks out of America

      Quinny Reply:

      You forgot Africa….

    35. EYESWIDEOPEN Says:

      Does anyone remember in the 1980’s, when “9 1 1″ was made the number to be associated to emergencies?

      “Even your child can dial 9 1 1!!”

      I remember. They ran the ads on Television constantly. Then the Television shows came out…”Emergency, 9 1 1!”…

      Can some of you make the connection?

      9 1 1 has been a Psy-Op since it’s inception. For nearly 20 years we were all programmed with the numbers “9 1 1…9 1 1 …9 1 1 …

      And then on September 11th, 2001, after nearly two decades of Psychological Conditioning to make the numbers “9 1 1″ an integral part of our human psyche, something so normal we barely notice it, like taking a breath, “America is Attacked!”

      Bullshit. They were planning it for a long time, and perhaps even commissioned the construction of the Towers, knowing one day they would bring them down, to cement the Psychological Conditioning of the people…

      911=Helplessness.

      Jef Wallace Reply:

      AWESOME. YOU ROCK. THIS CONCEPT ROCKS.

      =–> FIGHT CLUB ===> “al qaeda”, which is obvious.
      =–> very worried about 12 MONKEYS. (the connection =-> an insane Brad Pitt ?!)

      NeuroLinguistic Programming. For DECADES.

      It would be fantastic to see some research as to the origins of the 911 phone service, like when did that become the national standard ? who was behind this standardization ? would it be AT&T ? who inside AT & T did this ?

    36. vic Says:

      This world is crazier every day.
      What do the 9/11 activists have to do with the shooter in the military?

      Come on those who try to make a connection are totally disconnected.

      There are people who are going to do stopid things on there own but lets be honest here this guy was not a terrorist. Or at least not the kind the authorities are pointing at.

      IT is possible he was mind controled after all they been working at this for at least 50 years the CIA that is. that secret branch of the CIA that is part of that secret government no president has access to.

      just watch, they will try to use this to create more tensions with Iran.They suceeded with 9/11 and Iraq no?

      Godd day everyone

    37. The Bohemian Grove FLU Says:

      Low end Royality what do you expect.

    38. vic Says:

      I never understood the terrorist image that Bush and company were trying to paint.
      In my mind a terrorist will hit those in authority not innocent people. Like the covert terrorists do.

      If I was a terrorist my aim would be directly the thinking machine that attacked my people,my country and not the innocent people.

      The only way I can see this is CIA has fun killing innocent people because more people react to this form of terror. But that is a dangerous game to play.It’s evil fisrt of all and this energy sent out in the universe will bounce back sooner or later to it’s origin. It’s the law of attraction.
      What goes around comes back around.

      Lets get this right even if it is hard to swallow. The military men and woman are not what we could call innocent people. They have enrolled in the military knowing darn well they will kill other people. In the 10 commandments it is said : ” Though shall not kill”
      So even if I was in the military and I tried to hide behind I am trying to do good, this is a brainwash emotion. I am fighting for my country, for freedom. Like lines that were learned by heart but do not possess any true intention.

      MOst of the military are nice,good people but I have a hard time seing they bite in the trap that sets them up to do evil like was done in Iraq????? Makes no sense whats so ever.

      And those who say ya but what about 9/11? An answer like that shows to what point they can be conditionned and no see the lie that was told to the world about 9/11. and to this day still hasn’t been explained. But we now all know it was all a great big lie to go to war.
      A false flag to mislead the american people. 3,000 human lives were sacrificed that day.

      The day humans will stop enrolling in the military, boycott it ,this will force the war lords to fight there own battles that they create in the first place. But chicken as they are they will not fight without braver men and woman dumb down in distortion and lies to fight wars they really do not need to fight. And when humanity will set themselves free from the prison called capitalism and materialism, then Peace will rule lovingly this planet.

      Peace to all good humans

    39. Bruce Says:

      When a Khazar lizard Annunaki hybred hypnotizes you you must get in line….the only defense is stay AWAKE always 420 so they can’t hypnotize you

    40. Bruce Says:

      What!

      http://www.davidicke.com/forum.....1058401115

    41. Ghost Says:

      There is alot of people brainwash by the govenments you’re going to see alot more shootings all over america there agenda, well ‘martial law gun bans’. mind control inside job tell the program robot-people kill kill kill kill as many as u can kill kill kill kill.

    42. Shrugs. Says:

      Yes, people who want truth about shaky and cloudy science and forensics in a mass death event are just so dangerous.

      Jean-Anne Reply:

      UPI’s motto is ‘100 years of journalistic excellence.’ Maybe 101 years might promote a modicum of distanced objectivity. It IS an opinion piece, so he’s entitled, but to think he’s an editor. Does he just take his news off the wire, or what? I don’t know what happened on 9/11, but I would hesitate to fingerpoint at 9/11′ers just yet. He should be angry over what happened at Fort Hood; who wouldn’t be, but this is an incroyable leap of an association to tie them to Fort Hood.

    43. ronald mcdonald Says:

      if we would get serious about this fight and do it right like the founding fathers did, we could get rid of all of our problems in a week.

    44. ri54 Says:

      Acutally, truthers are worse than the “Fort Hood killer”:

      The Fort Hood killer took meaningful action when he perceived an injustice; the truthers, after more than eight years, are still languishing on message boards, anonymously ranting about “taking action.” I guess that “action” means they’re going to register and post on another message board.

      meanjean Reply:

      How do you know what we’re actually doing besides answering stupid posts like yours??

      gvfga Reply:

      I don’t. Please indulge me how you’re planning to usurp what I’m sure you think is a murderous government and what YOU’VE done personally other than hand out DVDs and post on message boards. All the truthers seem to take the safe route, posting on message boards and handing out DVDs instead of taking any kind of meaningful action that puts them at risk but also would depose the government that almost all of them believe committed mass murder on 9/11.

      meanjean Reply:

      What meaningful action are YOU taking? Besides bitch-posting about our meaningful actions, I mean.

      V for vagina Reply:

      Wow another retard my god know wonder, they want to kill us with weridos like you ‘ri54′

      gvfga Reply:

      “know wonder”!?

      V for vagina (what a whimsically neanderthal name), you lack intellectual standing to call OTHERS retards.

      MagnusXO Reply:

      You’re just jealous because “V for Vagina” is more creative then “gvfga”.

      V for vagina Reply:

      Yea what’s ”gvfga” stand for ? ( got VD fucKing granny’s ass )

      meanjean Reply:

      Thanks, guys!! I’ll be laughing all day.:)

    45. ri54 Says:

      Quotation from the article:

      “…to smear anyone who questions the official 9/11 story as a gun-toting terrorist intent on mass murder…”

      I’ve seen a lot of idio…err…truthers claim they want to execute and imprison “the criminals” after having never left their computer chair to investigate any aspect of 9/11 and especially the collapse of any of the three buildings. If truthers want to execute and imprison people based on Google searches and YouTube videos, that WOULD be mass murder.

    46. Ivywarrior Says:

      Ill bet your bottom dollar now that this is happened anything that goes on with deployment and re deployment on fort hood will see armed security guards posted at those sites. As a 20+ YEAR RETIREE AND 2 Tour vet the army failed to conduct a risk assessment on these high profile areas. And the officers failed to do anything abot this patheticaLLY SELFISH LOSER. He faced no danger hes a shrink for christs sake. The most dangerous part of his deployment would be flying in and out of where ever he was to be deployed. Senseless loss of life. The Army is strained beyond belief. I wish someone woulkd do a story on army divorces since OIF 1 that would open some minds

    47. Gianmarco Says:

      FRAUD! FRAUD! FRAUD! Liar fink! The real “terrorists” are American corporations who put short-term profit above all else. Corporations are ment to serve the public interest. If they are a cancer on the American people, their charter must be recalled. Too many corporations have abused the trust placed in them, and have become entities accountable to no one. This is the “beast”, unchecked greed that serves greed.

      gfgr Reply:

      So why do you work for “corporate America” and continue to buy their products and services?

    48. Incriminally Sane Says:

      9/11 was an INSIDE JOB with the help of the Israeli Mossad, MI 5/6, andlikely other intelligence organizations, so, I guess that makes me not only a terrorist but also “Anti Semitic”?

      Where do these people come from? they are the ones that are the TERRORISTS advocating the so called “Official Story” when they know it’s a sham and a lie and they still haven’t realized that they are nothing more than WHORES to the establishment.

    49. paul battis Says:

      The media is at it’s wits end when the line in the article is to attack the messenger. That is rock bottom.

    50. president christian Says:

      Fucking get over 911. Fucking move on with this conspiracy, and lets get to the present conspiracy. Fort Hood. It was the Illuminati or no it was the Cia drugging into be a ZOMBIE…. Maybe the fbi training him to be a patsy. I know it was the goverment they Orchestrated 911. Stupid fucking muslims in some cave could never have accomplished this task. They were helped when the goverment went into the towers and placed explosives like fireworks I used on the 4th of july. They were called “SNAKES” thermite in technical terms. You know they were on the maintenance team and placed the snakes all over and even firecrackers to help blow it up. I still say I want to continue my fantasy of 911 being an inside job. It makes life feel like I am actually exposing something that others are too stupid to comprehend, it gives me a feeling of superiority over other people who dont feel like me the smart one!! So look out they are watching you. The CIA or no the Illuminati or maybe the whole thing is a conspiracy and never happened or wait it is the FBI……
      FUCKING IDIOTS……….

      Quinny Reply:

      President Christian,
      I’ll forget 9/11 if you forget the murder of Christ. Deal?

    51. MagnusXO Says:

      Same old trick…

      Insult people who are actually thinking about things, and accuse them of some form of Willfull Ignorance to end debate, by insulting their Intelligence.

      President Christian, you are a FUCKING IDIOT, and there is no difference between YOU and EVERY OTHER FUCKING IDIOT THAT HAS EVER WALKED THE FACE OF THIS EARTH, SO SHUT YOUR FUCKING SENSELESS HOLE, TAKE YOUR PLACE AT THE END OF A LONG LONG LINE, AND LET THE REAL PEOPLE GET ON WITH TRYING TO FIX THIS PLANET WE ALL LIVE IN.

      President Christian is Recon Reply:

      Got his IP. Same as Recon’s

    52. Bill Says:

      THERE IS NO REASON TO SUPPRESS A VIEWPOINT UNLESS IT IS TRUE, because a false viewpoint can easily be combatted with facts and logic, while truth cannot be combatted except by lies which are vulnerable to refutation.

      Or to put it another way, the ‘racist’ view HAS to be suppressed, because if it weren’t, MOST PEOPLE WOULD BECOME ‘RACISTS’!

      So what is the ‘racist’ view? Very simply, it is one that takes the facts I cite below — along with a lot of others — into account.

      * FACT: Blacks make up 12% of the population, yet are 50% of the prison population.

      * FACT: This means that blacks commit NINE TIMES the crimes of whites. (That’s NOT 9% — it’s 900%!) It means that if there were equal numbers of blacks and whites in our population, NINE OF EVERY TEN CRIMINALS WOULD BE BLACK. NOTE: Some have claimed that black crime is high because ‘racist’ cops target blacks for arrest and ‘racist’ judges heap convictions on innocent blacks; but statistics belie this: Three of the cities highest in crime are Washington DC, New Orleans and Detroit; and yet the government of all these cities is in black hands; so clearly the cause of high crime in these cities is not ‘racial targeting of blacks’. More generally, black crime is high WHEREVER you go; and it would be the world’s most absurd conspiracy theory to suppose that the across-the-board high crime rates for blacks originated in a collusion of whites in every city and burg in the nation to target blacks and/or cook the books.

      * FACT: If present demographic trends continue, whites will be a minority in America in only 50 years. Whites are already less than 50% of the population in California. Between blacks and Hispanics, whose crime rate is about 4 times that of whites, we can expect to see huge escalations in crime against whites as they become fewer in number and thus more vulnerable both physically and politically.

      * FACT: 90% of all inter-racial crime is black-on-white (ie, committed BY blacks AGAINST whites).

      * FACT: There are 20,000 black-on-white rapes every year in the US, but fewer than 100 white-on-black rapes.

      * FACT: The majority of hate crimes are committed by blacks, in spite of the fact that blacks make up only 12% of the population, and in spite of the great reluctance of authorities to report hate crimes when they are committed by blacks. (That means that blacks commit VASTLY MORE hate crimes in proportion to their numbers than whites!)

      * FACT: The average white IQ is 100; the average American black IQ is 85; the average African black IQ is 70 (borderline retarded). There has never been a civilization worthy of the name founded by blacks, and blacks have not even been able to retain the civilizations which have been created for them by whites (”white colonialism”). Note: Contrary to black propaganda, the ancient Egyptians were not black — their sculptures, portraits and mummies all clearly show Caucasian features. Second note: Critics commonly claim that blacks score low on IQ tests because such tests are culturally biased. In fact, however, as black Prof Walter Williams has pointed out, blacks actually do BETTER on tests that are culturally biased.

      * FACT: The Jews have been expelled from almost every Western country at one time or another, including Britain, Spain, France, Portugal and Germany. There are several possible explanations for this, including religious differences, the clannishness of Jews which tends to make them loyal to their own ‘nation’ rather than to their host country, and envy of Jewish wealth and success (the average Jewish IQ is 115, as far above white as white is above black).

      * FACT: Virtually all the major media outlets, including TV networks, newspapers, movie studios and book publishers, are owned or controlled by Jews.

      * FACT: The major media incessantly harps on any white-on-black crime (such as the Jasper TX dragging), yet ignores the much greater number of black- on-white crimes which are equally horrific yet happen FAR MORE FREQUENTLY.

      * FACT: Communism was a largely-Jewish phenomenon. Almost all the top communists of the Russian Revolution were Jews, as well as almost all the atomic spies, and the Revolution was financed in large measure by Wall Street Jews.

      * FACT: In the late 1920s the Communist Party USA decided on a policy of destroying American society by pushing ‘racial equality’.

      * FACT: One of the most distinguished black scholars in America, syndicated columnist Dr Thomas Sowell, has studied multiracial societies around the world and has observed that — with the single exception of societies where one race is completely dominant over all others — such societies simply do not work.

      * FACT: The NAACP was founded principally by Jews, and Jews remained in charge of the organization till 1970.

      * FACT: The Reverend Dr Martin Luther King Jr took his instructions from a Jewish communist, plagiarized his doctoral dissertation, and was an adulterous womanizer who spent the evening prior to his assassination in bed with two white women. Yet King is the only single American to be honored with a national holiday.

      * FACT: The 1954 Supreme Court decision which brought about school integration was based on deliberate misrepresentation of a supposedly- scientific study.

      * FACT: Liberals and blacks claim that the reason for black failure is “discrimination”; and yet many other racial and ethnic groups have been discriminated against — Chinese, Irish and Jews, for example — and yet all except blacks have become successful within a generation or so.

      * FACT: Most of the ‘Orthodox Jewish version’ of the Holocaust is false, (and in fact is significantly based on ‘confessions’ of Germans at the Nuremberg Military Tribunal obtained under torture), and numerous Jewish scholars have actually acknowledged this. (The stories acknowledged by Jewish scholars to be false include the existence of homicidal gas chambers, the use of Jewish skin for lampshade coverings and Jewish body fat for soap, and the assertion that there were ‘Six Million’ Jews killed by the nazis.) But questioning these widely-believed but false stories is illegal in most countries of the Western world, and 8,000 people are in jail in Germany alone for questioning these and similar dogmas. Can you figure out what powerful international ethnic group was responsible for causing these laws to be passed?

      * FACT: Sympathy and guilt for the (largely false) story of the Holocaust has resulted in the payment of close to a hundred billion dollars to Israel by the German government. Furthermore, Jews everywhere continue to use the Holocaust as a tool for extracting money from gentiles, whether thru the movies (more than 400 have been made on this subject), Holocaust museums, ‘reparations’ (more than a billion from the Swiss, billions from German companies, etc) and the like. There is a saying widely used among Jews which goes, “There’s no business like Shoah [Holocaust] business.” Can you figure out why the Jewish establishment has been so eager to suppress questioning of the Holocau$$$t dogma?

      * FACT: Israel is the only ‘Western’ country to legally sanction torture, and the Israeli Defense Forces use bone-breaking and shoot-to-maim policies against Palestinians, and even reporters. Furthermore, Israel forbids marriages of Jews to non-Jews, just like nazi Germany.

      * FACT: Jewish political influence has been the principal force attempting to nullify our Constitution, and particularly the freedoms enjoyed under the Bill of Rights. For example, Jews have been the major force behind ‘gun control’ (ie, the attempt to nullify the Second Amendment), integration and affirmative action (to nullify freedom of association), ‘hate crimes’ (laying the foundation for suppressing freedom of speech), immigration (introducing large numbers of unassimilable nonwhites which will effectively destroy American culture and ideals), anti-militia statutes and similar efforts.

      Personally, I find the above facts disturbing, and I would think that any rational person would also find them so. But what I find even more disturbing is the pattern which the above facts show, namely a clear and continuing program by Jews — not all Jews, of course, but an effort clearly Jewish in nature — to destroy American and Western society by such devices as communism, undermining the Constitution, manipulating the media, and fomenting racial strife with immigration, integration, multiculturalism, and anti-white policies such as affirmative action, all while extracting billions in ‘guilt money’ thru the Holocaust fraud. These facts, and the pattern which they show, need to be publicized as widely as possible; and yet the fact that the major media are in Jewish hands makes it extremely difficult to do so, not merely because there is no access to the media for such facts, but because the media have engaged in a program of conditioning people to disbelieve such facts because they are ‘racist’.

      l Reply:

      Sometimes you are called a racist because you actually ARE a racist. Like stating racist opinions as facts like you do.

    53. Tod G. Says:

      Borchgrave is a member of the CFR, the organization who committed 9/11. He is a traitor.

      Dr. StrangeFlu Reply:

      yea traitors and Banksters buddies of the Federal Reserve. This place is THird World.
      The largest Bank heist in the History of the USA. geithner asleep at the wheel waiting plotting the largest bank heist in History. pathetic is not it. especially while a War is On.

    54. Dr. StrangeFlu Says:

      If the scumbags running the show back in the 1990’s had been doing their job while paided Millions and Millions and all the sold out think tanks and 10000 Intelleigence Agencies and all the other BIG Egoed know it all and all the blas blas. There would be no Truth movement nor all the other bad crap that has happened. but you can’t beat the NEW American Century Crowd with their New Pearl Harbors when they run the show.

    55. Dr. StrangeFlu Says:

      Like No Warburg No Hitler gig.

    56. Rob in NC Says:

      The 911 and Anthrax attacks are the new Reality Show entertainment for world consumption.

      There is evidence a plenty that bin Laden could not have committed the 911 and Anthrax attacks, even if he wanted to.

      ALL the evidence points to deliberate patsies being employed to take the blame for the attacks. All the evidence points to Mossad being involved in the attacks. All the evidence points to Bush/Cheney being involved in the attacks, and most assuredly, the following coverup.

    57. The Truth Says:

      Over many years we have all been lied to by our Governments, but not just our Governments but many religous leaders. Many things we have been taught are not even in Scripture and millions have swallowed so many lies by these false prophets. If you are a truth seeker please visit the following web site and take the time to read some of the articles, you will be shocked.

      http://www.2besaved.com

      Blessings
      Ben

    58. Kahoneez Says:

      Jessy Ventura .. in response to your delusional statement I must say you really shock the senses , by saying the ” good thing ” about a One World Government , ” there would be no wars ” . WRONG on many levels .

      A. No doubt there would be Resistance from groups , former countries or tribes that would resist and fight for their freedom , one world Gov or not , that’s just common sense or human nature .

      B. There was a time when Slavery experienced no wars or ” stability ” term was used during dictatorial reigns of terror in Central America by Generals and U.S. backed dictators .

      C. And there would be war , war on civil liberties , war on travel ( can you imagine not being able to freely move about or leave country ) war on representative form government oops , that one will be over .

      D. So if that’s your definition of peace , we are in deep shit . Not to mention the ECONOMIC enslavement controlled by a tyrannical few . No freedom , no peace .


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