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U.S. and Poland sign missile shield deal
Gabriela Baczynska
Reuters
Thursday, Aug 14, 2008
Poland finally agreed on Thursday to host elements of U.S. global anti-missile system on its territory after Washington improved the terms of the deal amid the Georgia crisis.
The preliminary deal was signed by deputy Polish Foreign Minister Andrzej Kremer and U.S. chief negotiator John Rood. It still needs to be endorsed by the Polish parliament.
The signing comes after Prime Minister Donald Tusk had been holding out for enhanced military cooperation with the United States in return for consent to host 10 interceptor rockets at a base in northern Poland.
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Washington says the interceptors and a radar in the Czech Republic would form part of a global “missile shield” protecting the United States and its allies from long range missiles that could in the future be fired by Iran or groups such as al-Qaeda.
“We have crossed the Rubicon,” Tusk said just before the deal was signed.
“We have finally got understanding of our point of view that Poland, being a crucial partner in NATO and an important friend and ally of the United States, must also be safe.”
Officials said the deal included a U.S. declaration that it will aid Poland militarily in case of a threat from a third country and that it would establish a permanent U.S. base on Polish
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August 14th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
wow im thinking Russia has nothing to worry about poland will never get it right after all they cant even build a train tunnel right
August 14th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Well, I´m sure that the Georgian president, Mikheil Saakashvili, also has received a U.S. promise that it will aid Georgia in case of a threat. The Polish government has just painted a enormous bullseye on it´s territory for the fake promise of security (the false argument they will use to defend this extremely stupid deal to their population).
When will they learn that a psychopath can never be trusted. He is only interested in what is best for him. So called allies are convenient and groomed as long as they are useful. When they stop being useful, the psychopath will just as easily sacrifice them if this is in his interest.
History is littered with this kind of betrayal.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
I don’t know why our government signs missile shield deal. Almost all poles don’t want missile shield to be installed in our country, they afraid of it. There are many protests against rocket shield in Poland. Also in Czech Republic people don’t want American radar station to be installed. America will not help Poland and Czech Republic in case of attack. So we are fucked up now by our own government.
August 14th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Poland as we con see from the history all ways make a stupid decisions, and instead stay Neutral lucking for help and promises from neocons that eventually be stubbed in the beck as happen in WWII Polaks must have a short memory” Polak jest mondry po szkodzie” (Polak is smart after lost) the neo cons like Zbigniew Brzezinski use any country to start war include Poland.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
This is incredibly dangerous. it’s very possible that if Russia thinks this thing is about to come online they will decide they need to use em or lose em and go ahead and srike preemptively.
food for thought.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
The polish people are far from stupid. They have been used, abused and scapegoated over the last century and this has resulted in a steriotype that Polish people in general are stupid. While i agree this missile defense shield is the most dangerous thing Bush has done since he took office, you have to understand just as the “people” of the U.S. disagree with these stances, so do the “people” of Poland. You can’t just say “oh the polish are screwing everything up” nor can you say this about the U.S. or Russia. It’s the Criminals that have highjacked the monitary systems in these countries that are responsable….. It appears that either 1. A few Oligarchies are fighing amongst themselves using innocent citizens of their countries as pawns or 2. The whole thing is a giant setup and Russia, the U.S. and all the other major players are involved and following a script. I would lean towards scenerio one, though i have no concrete proof.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Bush can stick that missile shield up his ass,
as for Poland, why do they bother, nobody gives a fuck about that country, now if they had some Oil, gas etc… or at least be full of JEWS, then perhaps it would guarantee american protection.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
I think the only thing the missile defence system is going to for the poles is put them in severe danger.The Russians will never permit the completion of this project for the same reason the united states would not permit Russian missiles in cuba.The conclusion that I draw is there politicians are just as bad as the ones in the usa.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
The Georgia incident had many purposes and this was for sure one of them – to make it easier for the politicians to sell NATO (and all this shit that comes along with it) to the people.
The mainstream media all over Europe is doing the usual fearmongering regarding the threat from the East and since most people don’t seem to know what’s really going on, the WW3 is again one big giant leap closer.
When these people say peace, it means get ready for war – defence means pre-emptive warfare – and the shield just means that you’re gonna get hit first.
So, congratulations Poland. You’re getting f**ked once again – this time it’s just from the other direction.
BTW – there is a saying here in Finland – “if you bow to one direction, you’ll be showing your butt to the other”… though I must say there are people here too who are doing their “best” to get Finland into NATO as well – and it’s no surprise that these people are bilderbergers as well as freemasons…
August 15th, 2008 at 3:16 am
““We have crossed the Rubicon,” Tusk said just before the deal was signed.”
It’s funny he should say that:
“”Crossing the Rubicon” is a popular idiom meaning to go past a point of no return and refers to Julius Caesar crossing the river in 49 BC deliberately as an act of war.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubicon
Surely Tusk wouldn’t be stupid enough to be intending the same outcome as Julius Caesar, would he?
August 15th, 2008 at 3:26 am
@cpg
“This is incredibly dangerous. it’s very possible that if Russia thinks this thing is about to come online they will decide they need to use em or lose em and go ahead and srike preemptively.
food for thought.”
Actually, this system is not a major threat to Russia’s strike capabilities – they have thousands of ICBM’s. What the threat is is that the US might see this as an opening for their own first strike.
The main reason neither side has wanted to try a pre-emptive strike is the knowledge that they couldn’t kill ALL the enemy’s ICBM’s in the silos, some will survive, and that is enough to really mess up your day.
But, if your first strike can take out the majority of them, a limited missile defence system MIGHT be able to clean up the stragglers. That is the threat, and that is why the ABM treaty was signed in the first place.
The point was as long as even a few missiles could survive, no one would pull the trigger. With an ABM system, that fear is taken away.
So while the Russians could launch a first strike in an attempt to use ‘em before they lose ‘em, doing so would mean suicide.
What they WOULD do is launch or at least threaten to launch a conventional invasion/strike on the missile systems, and hope the US has the sense NOT to escalate to a nuclear exchange. They will NOT however allow them to remain.
Basically a Cuban Missile Crisis in reverse.