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US soldier who deserted over Iraq is deported
Suzanne Goldenberg
London Guardian
Wednesday, July 16, 2008
Canada yesterday deported to the US the first American army deserter fleeing the Iraq war across the US-Canadian border.
Robin Long, 25, faces a possible court martial and jail, and even redeployment to Iraq.
He joined the army in 2003, after the invasion of Iraq, but became troubled by the war.
In 2005 he fled to Canada and applied for refugee status, because the US army wanted him to participate in what he called an “illegal war of aggression in Iraq.”
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On Monday, the Federal court of Canada Justice Anne Mactavish ruled that Long could not provide clear evidence that he would suffer irreparable harm if returned to the US.
The Canada border services agency confirmed Long’s removal, but declined to give other details, citing privacy laws. Long’s refugee claim had already been rejected and he could not appeal this latest court ruling.
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July 16th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Soldiers should be allowed to quit, maybe after paying back for their training. This would keep things on the up-and-up. People would fight if the country were TRULY threatened.
July 16th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Ahhn the North American Union cooperative strikes again. DAMMIT!
July 16th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
I guess he’ll be held in a non-disclosed location for an indefinite period of time.
July 16th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
to hell with canada. they;re a neo-nazi police state just like the us is.
July 16th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
After paying back for their training? People who can afford to do so usually don’t sign up to the military. That would be like telling the slaves “Hey, if you get enough money you can buy yourself and free yourself.” Sure, some did, but not a common event.
July 16th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
This is retarded. That’s our world leaders for ya!
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July 16th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Canada has always been a haven for deserters or war objectors. So for THAT GOVERNMENT to deport a deserter is ridiculous since there are many descendants of deserters in that country possibly some in government.
If he is sent him back to Iraq as the article mentions he will take a bullet for sure.
July 16th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Of course they denied his refugee status and deported him, this is all part of a well thought out plan. You see, here in the very near future when we invade Iran there will not be enough troop levels to support the new front and another draft will be put into effect. I myself was thinking of going to Canada if such an occurrence takes place. They have obviously already thought of that and have conspired with the Canadian government to make sure that doesn’t happen and we will have nowhere to run!
I’m sure they have been attempting the same thing in Mexico they know exactly what they are doing and have learned from previous wars what they need to do. This will help to solidify the North American Union(NAU) which will follow shortly thereafter.
July 16th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
just divorce your country…
simple as that… you can divorce your wife for lieing…
so you can divorce your country….
you have choice weather to fight or not….
you have choice to be independent from goverment…
you are not binded to goverment….
you have the right to be free and have independence from goverment.
July 16th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
I have my doubts that we will actually invade Iran, let alone reinstate a draft to supply 3 fronts (which is exactly what would need to be done). An attack? Possibly. An invasion? Nope. To say we’ll just throw some boots on the ground and start drafting is naive at best as this would cut the jugular for sure and I’m confident we all are aware that the powers that be are much more wiser than to slice their own throat. Also, if one is to assume (just for a second) that the official reasons behind the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan are true (arguably many will say they are not – but just assume for a second), then one cannot compare this to the reasons we would be given to excuse an invasion of Iran. Remember all the hoopla about liberation in Iraq and Taliban/Osama in Afghanistan? That’s why foot soldiers are/were required if you go along with the government’s story. Ground units are not required to knock out hard targets like weapons factories and nuclear plants. For that all you can reliably count on WITHOUT mass bloodshed of friendlies is air power and (hope) when the dust settles, most (but definitely not all) of their deadliest capabilities will have been pounded back a couple of years.
Unfortunately, the inevitability of supplying boots into Iran will come when the existing missiles in Iran start flying at our boys in Iraq and elsewhere in the region as well as the fleet some time after our first strike (assuming we have enough time). At this point most of the people here will feel compelled to back the U.S. government into toppling yet another sovereign nation – allowing ground troops and hence a draft but in name only because it will not be necessary. Israel will prove useful in the beginning (for air), however, within a short amount of time they will be more concerned about missile strikes hitting home than providing additional sorties which might just give them or us an excuse to go nuclear…in which case all bets are off and we don’t need boots (at least for a while).
In any case we can be assured of one thing…blood and chaos in an entire region. Any mention of invasion and you can rest assured the first responders (U.S) will be coming over the border from Iraq after already having spent 6-15 months in the desert. Also, Do not think for a nanosecond that Russia and China among others will stand idly by while billions of rubles and yuan go up in smoke along with a member of their military alliance. They have national security interests also and have already thrown up many warnings/threats concerning the U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. It will not matter to them if we send missiles, planes, or tanks. They will insist it is an act of war on a non-aggressor to which they hold dearly and have invested heavily.
It really doesn’t matter how we get there, but the point is that once it has begun assuming many GIs get killed in Iraq as a result, we will be obligated to cross the line of no return. The middle east will burn for it of course and anyone who thinks that there will be small arms fire in the streets of Tehran is in for a rude awakening when he/she turns on the tube to find out that not only on that particular day has Tehran been nuked into the ozone layer, but also there were 1000 times more casualties in Iraq of U.S. soldiers than in any given year since the beginning of the war due to missile strikes. This doesn’t even account for the blatant disregard Israel will have in dispensing WMD when they get hit. It also doesn’t address the issue of Russia and China’s responses as well as the other Middle Eastern nations that will need to choose sides while they watch their borders catch fire.
No there will not be a draft and an invasion is highly unlikely. The only way this would happen is if the events unfold in a way similar to what I can imagine, and then a draft and invasion become irrelevant. We will be very lucky if an air strike is considered somewhat successful while at the same time being the only major act of aggression from any side that occurs. Somehow I think our luck is spreading just as thin as our national intelligence, our population’s intelligence, our economy, our military, etc…we are treading on very thin ice with Iran and the entire planet has nothing to say except “there goes the United States again”.
July 17th, 2008 at 12:57 am
Time and time again, it has been proven that our government is broken. Disfunctional.
Such a government does not deserve the command and respet of our troops.
All other troops with brains need to follow this man’s example and resist.
WHO rules the US? The measly 1% of the population, the ruling elite? Or do we the people rule it?
Where have the balls of the people of this country gone?
July 17th, 2008 at 5:08 am
Canada years ago signed an agreement with USA to return AWOL/draft evaders. New Zealand is a little better, but this could change.
July 17th, 2008 at 5:58 am
I for one am glad they are deporting this traitor back to the US> I was in a unit in Iraq where one of my fellow squad members deserted. He has lived in Canada and even penned a book; which at best is a gross exaggeration of the facts. This person signed up after 9/11 and was fully aware of the consequences.
Having stated all of that I do not agree with this Administration, the war in Iraq, the possible war in Iran, our Neo Con foreign policy but this traitor deserted his fellow combat soldiers not for political ideology but for cowardice. We do not have a draft in this country, everyone serving in any branch has done so willingly.
Why do you think Dr. Paul raised the most money from service men and women than any other candidate? Many of us have a brain in our head and are not the mindless sheep presented by some. VoteVets.org, Vets for Peace and other organizations are taking a stand for our Veterans. When push comes to shove many of us will be on the front lines fighting this New World Order!
If you can read this thank a teacher
If you can read this in English thank a soldier.
July 17th, 2008 at 6:20 am
Canada used to be a safe haven for our American brothers and sisters in times like this…the Vietnam war most notably in recent memory, and this deportation is un-Canadian.
We (Canadians) have almost no national identity to begin with, and I have always felt that our role in helping conscientious objectors escape prison, draft, war, etc. was something worth being proud of. Well that is sadly no more.
The claim that Robin Long is in no real danger being sent back to his unit shows just where Canada’s legal system is at…in the back pocket of the NWO…
July 17th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Hey,
Alex Jones Prison Planet Forum is full of communist trolls masquarading as Moderators,especially the one called ROCK,that are banning people for expressing their opinions!
July 17th, 2008 at 10:31 am
I hate to say this but I feel that this is an inescapable truth.
No one wants war and certainly anyone who looks forward to slaughtering people on the battlefield likely has some serious mental issues to deal with.
But when you join the military you should join with the full expectation that you could get called to war someday. Regardless of whether you approve of the war or not.
If you dont want to go to war then you should not join the military. Period.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:31 am
This time I think Canada has it right. The military, at least for now, is totally voluntary. You knew the dangers when you joined. If you disagree with US foreign policy, and are any bit aware of all the criminal actions of this country’s corrupt and illegal moves all over the globe, then you were blind to just jump on board and grab a gun to fight for those criminals who will in a heartbeat, put you in harms way. As they are continuing to do to all our brothers and sisters caught up in the machine of the military industrial complex. We are now invading countries that have done nothing to us, except to attempt to stop accepting US Debt Bonds, and Federal Reserve Monopoly Notes for payments of goods. This is the reason for our invasions.
But, we are too uneducated and know nothing of our country’s history to understand that it’s just the same corruption in a different package.
We were warned all throughout history that the bankers would destroy the US. Thanks to all you military robots who only follow orders from those criminals and don’t think for yourselves. If any of you would wake up, we might have a chance at a great nation once again. Why do you think they are sending all of you out of this country, instead of maintaining an force here for protection?
Robots with guns and no brains are more dangerous than anything imaginable.
The men of this country are pure pussys and have no balls.
July 17th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
I have nothing against those who desert, more power to them. If more troops did the morally correct thing and desert, the mass murder would come to an abrupt end. People like Shawn, who claim to know the truth, are still part of the problem since they still grasp on to the military as “good”. Desert! Don’t reenlist, if they recall you, don’t show up. Simply saying you were following orders is not an excuse for committing atrocities.
July 17th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
I joined the military too, then later realized it was the wrong thing to do. Dear Shawn and Christina, please tell me… because I signed a paper at one moment in my life, does that require me to do the wrong thing over the course of the next eight years? The fact is that I have free will 24/7 and I don’t need to be decieved into thinking that any one moment requires that I do the wrong thing at any other subsequent moment. In other words, I think that it would be much more VOLUNTARY if one were allowed to UNVOLUNTEER as well.
Certainly, people in combat stay and fight for their fellow solders because you are already in the mix… kind of stuck… personally involved with you brothers in arms. But those of us who have not been deployed aren’t so stuck. I have no argument whatever against a person who follows his conscience.
July 17th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Responding to Christine from Canada saying that Canadians don’t have a national identity.
I agree, but we have regional identities thatI think are more important than being “united” states. Americans are proud to be so because of the Constitution, without question the most important political document of our time, but it’s pretty hard to follow along and wave the flag when you can’t question your government, there is no one to hold them responsible, and sure as hell they will never accept accountability.
Both sides of their political spectrum are filled with people who are interested primarily in power, not their constituents, and surely not the Constitution by the laws they have been making and the record number of filibusters in Congress with George W. Bush tenure as Commandant in Chief.
The world is beginning to judge Americans, not just America.
Wake up from your slumber Americans, you no longer have to live their American dream.
Be you, do your own dreaming.
Be free and independent.