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Vice President Joe Biden promises WeAreChange an upcoming crisis
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Saturday 22nd November, 2008
Several days before election day I caught up with Joe Biden and asked him what he meant when he said mark his words Obama’s presidency will bring a “generated crisis”. He told me it would happen regardless of who’s president, he stated he was only repeating what the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was saying and there would in fact be an international crisis without a doubt he didn’t even think twice when I asked him.
I also tried to ask him about what Obama meant by stating we have “negative liberties” and the Constitution is “flawed”, he then ignored me. He claims they will have to make some tough decisions due to an international crisis. I wonder if those “tough decisions” will be similar to the “tough decisions” Bush made after 9/11 like passing the Patriot Act, spying on Americans without warrants and engaging in an endless war.
Even Obama stated in his Chicago speech on election night shortly after his victory that he will have “challenges” which will force him to make unfavorable decisions.
It’s time Americans wake up and realize that Trilateral co-founder and associate of Henry Kissinger and David Rockefeller: Zbigniew Brzezinski is pulling the strings of this administration and according to numerous publications he’s written the past few decades, we are in for some tough times…
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November 22nd, 2008 at 5:59 am
May God help us… He will
November 22nd, 2008 at 6:29 am
the three puppeteers from hell pulling the strings !!!!!!!!!!!!! could something big be iran invasion ? total market meltdown leading to martial law and this having implications on constitutional issues ????????????????
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November 22nd, 2008 at 6:42 am
If history has a say then don’t expect any help from any deity.
November 22nd, 2008 at 7:08 am
The next shoe is about to drop!
November 22nd, 2008 at 8:00 am
Not to defend Biden, but it didnt look like he was “ignoring” you guys, he simply walked away and shook hands with others and didnt hear you–it seemed quite loud in there. How can you get a half decent interview amidst such noise and crowds like that? You should have asked him what the “scenarios” ARE, since during that same speech in which he said there’d be an international crisis, he said “I can give you 5 or 6 scenarios in which it will happen”. My question would have been “can you give me ONE of them?”
November 22nd, 2008 at 8:38 am
lmfao god isnt here to help us, and if he is, he’s doing a pretty shitty job
Jeff Jeffers Reply:
February 1st, 2009 at 4:29 am
I’ve read som eo the comments. Some make sense and others don’t. Some believe it is a conspiracy and others don’t. Some believe there is a God that controls all things. Others don’t. Ar one point i was with them, i didn’t believe but then God got my attention is such a way that i could not ignore what was happening. I spent the past 5 years compiling the data and what i experieced was alos experienced by others. I even include 4 affidavits to add validiity to what I have said. These were 4 men who confirm my experience.
If you want a copy, I’ll e-mail it to you free of charge. Read through it and see if you can pick up similar events in your life which declare that we are not alone, God is certainly there and willing to help all who ask. jvjeffers@bellsouth.net
November 22nd, 2008 at 9:02 am
What really interests me is that there are those out that have predicted, for a very long time now, the fall of this Republic. I’m just amazed at 2 things: How dumb the U.S. populations is and how the population was so easily blinded by the media which is so used as a tool.
November 22nd, 2008 at 9:07 am
I think perhaps Joe Biden meant the world would test Obama’s strienth as an American leader and head of the worlds rappidly dying superpower. To expand on his statement anymore than that is at this point a stretch, it is pure speculation, it is mean spirited propaganda which is motivated by a hope that Barack Obama will somehow fail in regard to foreign affairs or even his overall presidency. I am not trying to say President Obama isn’t going to be and do exactly like all those CFR members before him, but making these kind of baseless accusations serves nobody’s best interest whatsoever. As rational people we will just have to wait and see what he will do while giving him the time and respect due any incoming American President.
November 22nd, 2008 at 9:13 am
They are going to disarm the american people.
November 22nd, 2008 at 9:36 am
Everything that is happening is Gods doing. If anything bad happens then God meant for it to happen because good comes out of it. People will eventually face the facts and everything will fall into place like tetris, the way God planned it to be. Remember, Everything happens for a reason.
November 22nd, 2008 at 9:42 am
Keep it in Check: you are a dumb, ignorant fool.
November 22nd, 2008 at 9:54 am
Are you serious?? What kind of God would cause all the garbage that is going on in America?
God gave us our will in this election. For many Obama is the Messiah, the savior, the free ticket to a good life. People will believe anything. How far we have fallen.
Many people that I’ve talked to feel that America has sold her sole and the change we are hoping for will not be what we are promised or what we expect and will follow Obama unquestioningly.
Our beginning of sorrows has only begun. God is our only hope and salvation and we as a people need to pray for His mercy and protection.
God, please bless America. Amen
November 22nd, 2008 at 10:00 am
@ C.M.: You obviously don’t know Scripture then, because actually pal, you’re the fool.
November 22nd, 2008 at 10:10 am
I think someone here thinks Bush is God. I’d say the opposite is true.
My personal opinion on the upcoming crisis is we once again are manipulated by Israel and attack Iran. The World will no this to be true except the Americans, who will not have been informed of this on the six o’clock news. It will be us against them and them will be a very large portion of the world. Obama will not be able to stop the war as he is newly elected and not in control of the Military as Israel seems to be. A sad state of affairs for the Americans.
God has nothing to do with this.
November 22nd, 2008 at 10:13 am
they are starting to just “rumor” that something is coming because it has the same paralyzing effect as a real false flag event. with the bush doctrine and pre-emptive moves, these rumors are just as good as the real thing!
November 22nd, 2008 at 10:22 am
hopefully someone will end this kenya born puppets rain and cut it short. change what a bunch of shit you gullible obama suckers.
November 22nd, 2008 at 10:22 am
When it comes to the problems we all face or will face it does not come down to God. Nor does it at all have anything to do with God or religion for that matter. Though many wars and shit may be due to religion, religion in-fact is nothing but mere perspectives on things, and alternate versions of old stories written in a book. Now I am not knocking someone’s religion but simply pointing out the fact that it is greed that stirs the pot of boiling water, and that if it was all due to some grand plan that some God has in-store, then think about this. What God would want so many people to die and suffer so others may prosper? We need to look at this logically and not argue over things that may not be relevant to our times, such as religion. Im only 19 so I dont know what I can do, but Im sure as hell trying find out. Maybe some others should do the same..
informationman Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 1:11 pm
In the end you realise that this suffering could have been prevented. Let’s say that God gave us a brain. So instead of using our brain in a positive way we use it on material things or not use it all. So instead of striving for the truth many humans enjoy the material things in life to an extreme extent that they find learning something new a bad thing (not all humans though). When you talk about dying and suffering, God in some scriptures awards people who die that are in positions in which they cannot follow the religion. For example in Islam Allah awards all children and people in poverty who die heaven as they are incapable of doing many things in accordance to Islam. So what is a greater reward than eternal paradise? In the end all suffering could have been prevented if religion was followed although some more than others as all religions but 1 (Islam) have been changed significantly as to change the message it sends. And people say that religion is a tool used to enslave people yet when you follow a religion properly you become a better person, you become healthier, viruses such as STDs (although used for population control) and other diseases can be prevented from affecting you. Overall religion makes you a better person for yourself and other people.
Plz i am welcome to any criticism of my comments and id like not to be called a stupid extremist religion guy. And i’d like to see good evidence that Islam has been changed significantly as to change it’s message as i have not yet found any.
November 22nd, 2008 at 10:29 am
In a logical world, the “threat” makes no sense. Bush, the cause of all the troubles and strife in the world, is leaving office and supposedly his policies, too. Why the hell would something happen or we be attacked? “Change” is supposedly coming and that’s exactly what all the conflict is about.
Then again, I assumed a logical world…
November 22nd, 2008 at 10:50 am
Seriously, people, religion exists to control the masses, always has, always will. If you can’t see through that and you’re living your life by a book that has been changed and omitted more times than I’ve changed my underwear in my life. Ask your pastors about canonical texts and who were they written by and where they were taken from. Why do you think all symbols resemble that of past leaders… or profits – sorry, look into the religion of the greeks, moors, aborigines, and egyptians. Stop basing all your beliefs off of one book. Sure there is something out there, but it’s not human nor in human form. Are you that arrogant? We’re a species that has evolved and will continue to evolve. If you’re this deep into the game you should know all this by now, it’s sad that you still think that revelation refers to this time. Or for the fact of the matter, we’ve only been here 6 thousand years. Good lord, get real. Wake up you sad soul.
informationman Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 1:23 pm
I hate how people blindly follow what all these youtube videos say. For example when you say that religion has been changed many times you automatically refer to the bible or christianity yet there are many other major religions out there. And yes i have to admit that the bible has been changed a kajillion times but you should research into other religions before generalising everything. And i don’t see how religion exists to control us when Islam (i am referring to islam because that is the only religion which seems to be unchanged and logical.) Teaches you to be kind, loving, respectful, strive for the truth, go against oppression, not do drugs, not to have several sexual partners(which helps in the prevention of the spread of STDs). Gives justice for 3rd world people by awarding them with heaven. Gives justice to people who die at a young age through heaven. Gives you so many chances to be forgiven for things you have done wrong. Gives women dignity. And yes this is a delicate issue but if you were a woman would you rather be perved on by men all around you or keep your dignity by dressing modestly and wearing a piece of headscarf. And it’s strange how the elite have chosen to attack islam and distort it’s message, maybe there is a motive for that.
November 22nd, 2008 at 10:52 am
HR…The answer to your question is in Romans 9…that is if you actually want an answer. My guess is that you do not. My question to you is, do you actually believe there is hope at the end of your finite attempt? Answer: No! The only hope of humanity is a Just, True, Powerful and Infinite God named Jesus, apart from Him there is no hope!
BTW The Jews are His chosen people, all the anti-jewish garbage in the truth movement is proof positive that it will never go anywhere!
November 22nd, 2008 at 11:08 am
RCM Do you not see it a little odd that the same ‘gods’ that the ‘elite’ worship were also the same ‘gods’ that were worshiped by those who opposed God in the Old Test? It was Molec then and is Molec now at the Grove. They had thier children “Pass through the fire” then and do the ‘mock’ child sacrifice now. How are you so arrogant that you believe with your finite mind that there is no God? I know, you watched Zeitgiest and now you are an expert. So sad! Talk about a kool-aid drinker.
One day even you will bow your knee to the King of king’s and Lord of Lord’s…like it/believe it or not!
November 22nd, 2008 at 11:16 am
keepitincheck, I agree that all of this is someone’s master plan. That someone, however, is not God. There is a higher power pulling the strings here on Earth, and you can bet their human. Their are evil men out there who are trying to capture as much power as they can. For what reason? I don’t know. The world their creating will not be worth living in, much less ruling if we keep on this track. And there is no God who can help us. Remember “God helps those that help themselves”. We, the people of this planet, are the ones who have to stand up and fight these Tyrants.
November 22nd, 2008 at 11:23 am
Why do we talk about God helping us? Don’t we have enough intelligence to fix our own problems? We have to have more than fear and faith to drive the direction of this country. The whole idea of educating ourselves is to make this world a better place. Listen, until the technology permits us to to live forever we all must die. Do we want to make it a living hell on earth. We are no peasants from the dark ages. Stop acting like it! Time to evolve out of the mentality that has made history repeat itself time and time again. The main stream media does a good job of dividing us on hot button issues. We have to overcome our religious and cultural differences and become the melting pot we were raised to believe. We can see it has manifested a Black President for the first time. Lets put away our petty differences and search for the truth to help fix the problem. The internet seems like the last bastion of hope for the truth to get out to the public. This I believe is where the battle lines we are fighting from. More people will join our ranks every day until we the people get our true voice to speak as one united people educated with enough truth to make the right decisions. Until then we patriots will make our stand agianst the perpetual tyranny that only vigalance from and educated republic can repel its repeated death blows to our republic. The battle scars of this struggle is evident within our short history. Time and time again we have healed ourselves from those struggles and have become a better people. Our forefathers started what we must try to see to perfection. The job is not done yet America! Lets make the stand til we can make real change. The world is depending on us. Patriots love thier country. Patriot-Iraq Vet (38_Special)
November 22nd, 2008 at 11:23 am
Such Ignorance…”God helps those helps themselves” WHERE DO YOU FIND THIS IN SCRIPTURE?
informationman Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 1:38 pm
if you believe in the Bible of today you are truly misguided. Just go on youtube and search Zakir Naik. He has shown that the beliefs of today’s Christian is false. This video specifically refers to the holy trinity concept. I know that you will say oh you are wrong because i say so or sum BS like that but plz look at the video in this link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71cVPak5LKI
November 22nd, 2008 at 11:26 am
BilbleActI: I wouldlike to know what makes your finite mind so sure that you’re right and everyone who opposes you is wrong. You are just one of us too. It blows my mind that you religious zealots think you have all the answers. The Bible you so mindlessly follow was written by man, then translated a thousand times by man. And even you admit that men makes mistakes. So, how can you believe that the version you know wasn’t just a mistranslation and you have been wrong this whole time?
And last, how could God, all loving and all knowing, chose one group of people over the rest? Remember, Man created God in his own image.
November 22nd, 2008 at 11:31 am
Tim I want to add one thing, We must also hit the streets to be effective. Sitting at a desk on the internet is not the only way to fight, But rather the ammunition(info) for our battle.
November 22nd, 2008 at 11:38 am
This is true jvhenley420. I hope time is still on our side.
November 22nd, 2008 at 11:44 am
When will all the fanatics that use Jesus do the research to learn he never existed. Jesus ONLY exists to control you people who worship him. Free yourself and Think for yourself too.
November 22nd, 2008 at 11:52 am
I must go for a while but will be back.
Question 1, what sources are you using when you state Jesus never existed?
Q 2, How am I being controled by anyone other than my God whom I willingly submit to?
November 22nd, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Jesus is just symbology for the sun. He represents Pisces. We are in the age of Pisces. At the end, and about to enter Aquarius. Jesus’s story is the same as dozens if not hundreds of previous ancient civilizations that use the same story over and over, with just different names. And everyone of those religions use religion to control. To not let the people be free. To diguise freedom w/ slavery. All major religions point to pagan rituals. The cross, a symbol of the zodiac. Jesus’s crown of thorns, symbol of sun rays. Ever notice how the final supper paintings always dipict the deciples in groups of three(4 seasons) and there are 12 (months) of them with Jesus (Sun) in the middle? Do some research and find out what the fish symbol is on the back of cars. Christians don’t even realize it’s symbolizing the age of Pisces. This same story which is Christianity is just the present tool to have people police themselves. Do you really need a book to know that you shouldn’t kill people, etc…
Also, No historians that were alive in the era of “Jesus’s” life mention him. He is not written about till after his life. Takes some time to force it on the people…
November 22nd, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Act I: The questions weren’t for me, but I can’t resist. One; there could have been a so-called ‘historical’ Jesus. The thing is he wasn’t divine. No one is. He may or may not have existed, in fact. Other religions (and who is to say one religion is more ‘valid’ or truthful than any other religion?) do not recognize him. The Bible was written by people who lived in tents and caves and were afraid of wild animals. Two:you are ‘controlled’ every time you drive a car down the street, check out at a supermarket, make a phone call, pick up your kid at school, show up for work, go hunting or fishing or dispose of your trash. In essence, you ’submit’ to what some preacher told you just before he passed a collection plate. It made you feel good and avoid doing a lot of deep thinking, so you ran with it. (I am not trying to be insulting or belittling, just trying to drive at the truth as I see it.)
November 22nd, 2008 at 1:02 pm
great video
November 22nd, 2008 at 1:06 pm
President Bush told a crowd in Oklahoma City this summer, at a rally for McCain, that the next president, regardless of who it was, would ‘face their own 9/11.” What do they know?
November 22nd, 2008 at 1:57 pm
@32.. Sounds like Zeitgeist. Doesn’t say Jesus didn’t live, there are scripts indeed about & during his life. Same script he got married, did travel to asia and died at 37 – the jesus we know is da creation of Paulus..
November 22nd, 2008 at 2:06 pm
#7…Dude, dude. That’ll be enough of that.
November 22nd, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Does anyone really think that people want to rule a world that is stale and dying?
We are about to enter another huge leap forward. Some of this may be forced upon us in concealed ways, but I do not believe it would benefit anybody if it involved mass execution of people. Attrition through population control whether covert or overt is much more effective because it does not cause declines in productivity. Anyone who wants to snag control of the world doesn’t want productivity to decline because their own safety and level of comfort would be diminished. This iis true is at a primal level, unless they are just plain retarded (no offense to handicap people).
We are looking at deflation, new infrastructure, perpetuation of an easily manipulated monetary system and finally, a release of necessary technological advances to move toward sustainability. Good and evil will be on this trip, too. It is never one or the other; it is always both or neither.
November 22nd, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Great YouTube video.
#32 yeah, I watched Zeitgeist too. The dude who made that video asserts that the historical Jesus didn’t exist. Then he pointed to astrological events, which are spoken of symbolically, figuratively, or metaphorically in every religion, but to say whether Jesus did or didn’t exist at all requires proof, which the guy who made Zeitgeist didn’t supply.
Therefore, for you to disrespect millions of Christians, who believe in Jesus, by saying their spiritual leader didn’t even exist makes you an arrogant asshole.
November 22nd, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Learn the history of mind controlling the masses with religion and leaders of ancient days…www.expansions or Hear on youtube Stewart Swerdlow..History of mind-control 1,2,3, Spend the time to do your own research…Its all about controlling your mind!!!!!!! He is well known in many circuits and was involved in secret goverment projects that tried to kill him until he was able to de-program and learn protection techniques…We all need protection nowadays and bullets might not give us as much protection as we think they can…You’ve studied all about this crazy world…Nothing makes sense and he does…Now learn the other side if you dare to handle the truth about all this religion and war!!! Your mind is more powerful then you are led to believe..I dont need no preacher telling me how to get there…I have my mind quite focused on the higher truths. I can get there on my own with my own mind to led me…to discern truth from lies…I see beyond the words…Hope this helps those who are confused…Love to all as it was meant to be…
November 22nd, 2008 at 5:33 pm
negative and positive liberty are explained by the great sociologist Isiah berlin. A great documentary to learn more about this new and unfortunate form of liberty can be found on you tube under ‘The Trap’.
November 22nd, 2008 at 5:47 pm
BIBLE ACT sorry but you clearly dont even know how to interprate the bible. You say scripture doesnt say God helps them who help themselves. Well maybe not those exact words but there are many parables about farmers preparing their fields, storing food for a bad harvest, just look at Moses. God didnt reach down and pluck him from the flood. Moses had to build one huge mother of a boat. So clearly God favours the well prepared. ive read this throughout the bible.
Incidentally I dont believe in God, but I have enough sense to know that the Bible does not call Jesus God. Jesus was the son of God. The trinity is a Catholic hoax with pagan origins probably. The father the son and the holy ghost are defined in the bible as 3 seperate distinct things. God created the universe and everything in it. The holy ghost is the force of God, and Jesus is the son of God. If Jesus was and is God he would not have prayed. He would not have asked while dying on the cross why his father had forsaken him. He would know the answer, that he was God and certainly wouldnt be asking why he had forsaken himself. It also lessens his sacrifice, because he was all knowing and all powerful and therefore would not suffer as man does. And to top it all, if he was God in human form who was taking care of heaven and Universal matters while God was wandering the desert. It seems to me the people with the best handle on the true meaning of the bible are those that dont approach it from any angle other than common sense and clear undeniable statements and meanings. Did Jesus not even say when one of his disciples called him God that he was not God and would never make that claim? Why would God study the scriptures as he was growing up in human form. Its preposterous. The trinity has done more to turn people away from Christianity than all the Catholic Priest perverts put together. The bible has clearly been bastardized. The Sabbath isnt respected, its been changed against Gods law. He demanded that he be called Yaweh or Jehovah till time indefinite. Hes now called God, in pretty much every religion except Jehovas witnesses, who despite their failings seem to have the clearest grasp of the true meaning of the bible, the Sabbath a clear exception. But like I said I dont believe in God, or rather I dont believe in a God that pays us any attention of any significance. man put himself at the centre of the universe, because of his fear of death and the unknown, because of his arrogance, and the control that comes with religion and people who float to the top of that dogma generally dont practice what they preach and lust after power and control over men. Some of the worst atrocities in the history of man have been carried out under the banner of religion. The crusades, the inquisitions and so on. 4,000 years and little progress. How about religion take a back seat for once, stop manipulating people, politicians, world leaders and fuck off for a 1,000 years. I think youd find mankind would advance at a remarkable rate and develop his own strong moral code that doesnt come from a book. We dont need the Bible to know murder, adultery, theft, jealousy etc are all wrong/bad/destructive. Instinct tells me that, not the bible. But how the bible loves to claim it is the only moral authority on human matters. Incidentally I am also against abortion. Why? Common sense and decency. A womans right to control her body is a cop out. Once a life is concieved in her womb she is not the sole owner of her body. The fetus is also. to snuff that out in the name of some cop out like “ITS MY BODY” makes me sick to my stomach. That would get me labeled a Christian or a Republican had I not already explained myself. Im also British. Some of my views are liberal, some conservative. People who lump thmselves totally in one camp or the other are intelectually vacant. Or they really like red more than blue or vice versa. ive never voted, because Ive never saw a candidate who was worth it it.
Man would do fine with common sense rule of law, and enforcing that law, even against the rich and powerful and world leaders. The Bush admin by the same yardstick as used to judge German war criminals, would be in the dock yesterday for crimes against humanity, subverting the constitution of America, subverting the law, illegally invading a sovereign nation, and carrying out a heinous attack on New York. A black op that may help the world unite in the long run is no justification. Its criminal, and the rule of law needs to be enforced, or the people need to rise up and overthrow the Washington Mafia. Obama is no different, except for his face. Who knows, the powerful religious men may even be stitching him up to be the AntiChrist before they bring him down and put in forth a puppet as the real Messiah. After all if the scriptures arent fullfilled Christians are going to look pretty stupid. I can imagine nothing worse than wishing and hoping Armageddon comes soon. But thats what every christian Ive met wants. It reeks of manipulation on all fronts. And anyone who says religious groups dont have the power to influence world events needs to wake up and look at history. If you dont believe in God you have to come to the conclusion that powerful men, religous, or hiding behind the mask of religion have been subverting mankind and directing him in ways that suit their agenda. We are seein it now with one world govt. As much as it appears its politicians who want this you can believe those who use religion to control want it too.
The whole thing stinks, and these fuckers, politicians and Popes and religious leaders and zealots have been holding mankind back from his destiny for too long. Our destiny is inner peace, enlightenment and to at least start exploring our back yard (our galaxy). As a species we cant just sit on this planet and hope that nothing huge slams into us from the outer reaches of space, or that God wouldnt let it happen. We need to grow, explore. learn, evolve. Religion is the answer if you want to take ten steps back. Id rather take ten steps forward.
END OF ANTI BIBLE BASHING RANT.
November 22nd, 2008 at 6:23 pm
There is so much ignorance in the last ten or so posts I don’t know where to begin but I’ll give it a shot.
Number one, ‘In 4 a shock’…(perhaps the dumbest person online) First, There are no parables about farmers, no Scripture about storing up food (outside of the illustration of the ant in the Proverbs) and perhaps the stupidest thing I have ever seen on a post IT WAS NOT MOSES WHO WAS IN THE FLOOD YOU IDIOT, IT WAS NOAH! Ha ha ha ha ha, if you can respond after this I will be amazed. Here is some more… No Jesus’ disciples did not once aske Him if he was God and got an answer that He was not, PLEASE SHOW ME SCRIPTURE FOR THIS! The rest of your post is too ignorant to even reply to except, do not put me in with Catholics, this is a religion of works. If you do not accept what Jesus did for you and nothing else you have no hope of redemption. I will be in heaven because of NOTHING I DID but what He did in me.
Jimmy…”The Bible was written by people who lived in tents and caves and were afraid of wild animals.” WHERE DO YOU COME UP WITH THIS CRAP??? So ignorant I can not address it any further.
JY…When the best you can do is base your ideology on paintings and how many persons were in it or how they were arranged in a painting, you are truly pitied above all because of your stupidity.
Have fun…I am looking forward to your response ‘In 4 a brain transplant’ the most!
One more laugh before I go though. Ha ha ha…Moses in the flood Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha h
November 22nd, 2008 at 6:25 pm
@ n 4 a shoc ..Noah built the Ark NOT Moses…LOL…other than that I pretty much agree with you… it’s not instinct however that’s called a conscience that should keep you from murder stealing etc…!
I am one of Jehovah’s Witnesses….man’s governments are controlled by Satan the ruler of this world so if you vote, you vote for Satan…one of his minions…even if they do not know it! Even if there were well meaning people in power Satan would either get rid of them or corrupt them…
November 22nd, 2008 at 6:33 pm
@ Bible Act…
if you have an immortal soul how can you be resurrected? You don’t die! God told Adam he would die if he sinned…not burn in Hell..he told Adam after he sinned…”from dust you were taken and to dust you will return.”
Why didn’t God tell him he was going to burn in Hell?
Adam no longer exists!
In for a Shoc was right on about one thing…all of Christendom believe and practice Pagan beliefs… which is another way of worshiping Satan! Satan created those false doctrines!
November 22nd, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Clausen
God told Adam he would die if he ate of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and evil, not if he sinned. Answer…Adam began in the garden with a immortal soul and an immortal body, when he ate of the fruit his body then became mortal and yes, Adam is dead. God was right. If Adam and Eve never ate of the forbidden tree they would never have died. Hell was created for the devil and his angels not for man. Man rebelled against God and now will take his place in the lake of fire not because hell was made for him but because he rejected God. “Men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil” evil must be punished according to an Holy God.
Question to all the atheists: If religion is wrong and belief in God is crazy why do the ‘elite’ serve or worship the ‘god’ who hates God…Satan? Maybe they just need to see Zeitgeist so it can ‘explain’ to them their folly.
You see there are two forces in the world, good and evil, Jesus and Satan. How you can believe in the one and not the other is beyond me.
November 22nd, 2008 at 6:58 pm
BTW
Your soul is immortal not your body. In the resurection you get a new, immortal body just like Jesus’. Our body becomes dust our soul lives on, heven or hell.
November 22nd, 2008 at 7:20 pm
before you claim to like like the book, you probably should read it
ge 3:19 “for dust you are
and to dust you will return”
In other words you go back to where you came from or in other words, nothing.
November 22nd, 2008 at 7:31 pm
WHAT?
I never ‘claimed to like like the book’
Are all of you atheists retarded?
November 22nd, 2008 at 8:44 pm
I’ll say it again: ‘MAN CAN MAKE HIS PLANS BUT GOD DETERMINES THE OUTCOME.’
November 22nd, 2008 at 9:11 pm
You religious fantics….Look up to the skys..And please take you home away from this planet……You have no brain but what you have been mind controlled to believe….You religious zealots have led us to this…You want all self-fullifying phopecys to come…I DO NOT!!!Stand up Baptists who stood for Bush and the WARS…Your holy rapture is a SHAM>>>>Look up and it will take you away..Hopefully from this planet to be FOOD for the alien nation…The rest are ready to do battle….with the real enemy….I am woman and will stand for all those ready to do battle…..Mind, Body and Soul….Can I get a amen on that….Thank You God-Mind and all the men I love….Love and Freedom is all I know…Everything else is tyranny…
November 22nd, 2008 at 9:48 pm
UH,
I must convene into the comment above by in 4 a shoc,,
You sir have never even glanced at a Bible if you think Mose’s had anything to do with the Ark,
That was Noah who perilously built that boat for a period of nearly 125 years,And like Noah,who was mocked when he was warning the fools of the pending doom to come,We true believers too come under the scrutiny of those of you who are scared of the future,so you deny the only real truth that is there completely for you to understand if you only give yourself over to his will,I am a tried and true rebel,but I do know in the existence of Christ from personal experiences that had nothing to do with any church or religion,Let alone the “Fact” that almost every prediction that has been prophesied has been fulfilled except the rebuilding of the Jewish temple,and the return of Christ,and no I’m not some religious nut as you like to label people,just a person who was lifted from the fiery pit of hell and given the opportunity to live a fuller life and be able to spread the real message of hope,
I do also believe though that we as Christians will endure some or most of the tribulation that is coming quickly,I know a lot of believers who differ in their thought on this issue,but I see too many signs of the times and there is way to many things in alignment to continue on this path to Armegeddon,after all,the armies are already assembling in the exact spot that the Bible says it will happen.
November 22nd, 2008 at 10:02 pm
Wher are you “in 4 a shoc ” I too want to see if you will post again too.
November 22nd, 2008 at 10:34 pm
fOR gOD’S sAKE..iTS ALL A SELF-FULFILLYING PHOPESY…In the early times man did not know how to write except for the rulers and priests…….Its all controlled from DAY O….No Divine Intervention…Connect that to now the religion and rulers…..No Difference..Its said that the Book of Enoch was not included because of divine intervention…Lets just say that man is not divine and he has NOT included what the religion does not want you to know…..Get It…Think with your mind not whAT RELIGION TELLS YOU…
November 22nd, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Inferno
Good for you. I enjoyed your testimony, mine is much the same. Pulled out of the pit by the grace of God and He, I will praise for all eternity.
No rapture is comming!
Again, atheists…why do you refuse to answer my question. Do the ‘elite’ worship Molec or is that a fantasy too???? Look in the Scripture and you will see 6000 years ago they, those who hated God, worshiped the same deity…fantasy or reality? So are ‘they’ “controling” their own minds by manipulation of ‘religion’ of Molec.
Com’on let’s get it on, all you ‘great’ minds of atheism
November 22nd, 2008 at 10:45 pm
@54
OK Brainless wonder I am going to give you just one “Self fulfilling” prophecy that has still to be refuted. Ezekiel prophecied that the city of Tyre would be crushed, wiped off the face of the earth and never, NEVER be rebuilt. Kings have tried to rebuild this city, over and over again and no Tyre. Hmmmm Google just what that city consisted of in the day and see what a powerful city she was, never built again! Google how many nations tried to rebuild it.
Self fulfilling? Let’s see the smoke come out of your churning brain.
November 22nd, 2008 at 11:13 pm
iF YOU UNDERSTAND COSMIC LAW …..wHEN SEX HAPPENS ALL AVAILABLE sOUL/PERSONALITY GATHER AROUND THE ENERGY THAT HAPPENS WITH COPULATION…..IN THE ASTRAL PLAIN….oNLY UPON THE FIRST BREATHE OF AIR DOES BABIES CARRY LIFE GIVING SOUL..tHEY ARE ATTRACTED TO THE MIND PATTERNS OF THE PARENTS…tHATS WHAT jESUS TAUGHT AND WAS CRUSIFIED FOR…nOT FOR YOUR SINS…yOU ARE HERE TO LEARN LESSONS NOT FOR SIN…tRUE gOD ALLOWS ALL THINGS….aLLL bEINGS…hETRO OR hOMO OR bI….nO jUDGEMENT…bUT tO LEARN ..nO hELL….iS ALL MAN MIND CONTROLL FOR FEAR….rELEASE YOUR FEAR , RELIGION AND TOUCH WITH YOUR TRUE SELF. AND INTUITION..wE LIVE IN A PRISON PLANT…rELEASE YOUR VICTIM MENTALITY…wE ARE ALL HERE BECAUSE OF IT…tHATS WHY WE ARE ALL HERE fOR…yOU AND mE… TO LEARN THE LESSONS..CAN ONLY MOVE UP UNLESS YOU REALIZE THESE TRUTHS IN YOURSELF…dEAL WITH THE PAST, PRESENT, AND UNDERSTAND DEAL WITH YOURSELF BEFORE DEALING WITH OTHERS…wORK ISSUES OUT AND BE IN YOUR MIND….iTS THE SAFEST PLACE….
November 22nd, 2008 at 11:29 pm
I’m not scared of death. I know for a fact I’m going to heaven. its not jreligion but its what you believe, I believe in GOD and JESUS came into my life in 2003. its a yes or no vote. believe in him or don’t. yes or no. for in a short time that decision is final.
November 23rd, 2008 at 1:07 am
the welfare-warfare party is at it again. change obviously means ‘more of the same’ in NewSpeak
November 23rd, 2008 at 2:26 am
The upcoming battle of Megiddo (Armageddon – ‘hill of Megiddo’, in modern Israel) is being ‘engineered’ as we speak by the Zionists. This battle is prophesied to occur around 2012 when the anti-Christ (Obama, with his Muslim roots?) confronts the Christians and Jews. Having ‘engineered’ this battle there will be much kudos for the Zionists who’ll run around shouting “You see, our Bible is right!” That should stir it up with the Muslims, and lead to mass conversions and world control!
informationman Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 1:53 pm
lol do you live in your own world?? Why don’t do you own research and you’ll realise that Muslims believe in Jesus too but in a prophet called Isa although it’s not some guy who claims to be God. Study your own scriptures and you’ll realise that the holy trinity concept is BS. Just watch this video by Dr.Zakir Naik.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71cVPak5LKI
November 23rd, 2008 at 4:36 am
sayin (amen) is giving thanks to the egyptian sun god. hopefully you go research that, but i doubt it.
just curious, but why does any story always turn into some religious battle… go do something with your life, that doesnt include wasting your hard earned money by giving it to some tax exempt scam circle. (lol) i got a green hanky from arizona from some church and they want some money so they can annoint it with magic oils to make my life better. I’m contemplating calling the AG’s office, but id rather just send them a penny from canada so they wase 80 cents on the postage. maybe ill just wipe my butt with it, it would probably have more effectiveness in the sewer system.
Joe Biden is my senator and idk if hes good/bad, but maybe hes just getting the info out.
take care and stay safe, former navy, lets roll out.
November 23rd, 2008 at 6:04 am
Wow bible act you are the most blind person I have ever had the displeasure of knowing about.
If your on this site you obviously can tell somethings odd right?
Of course there isn’t any real change coming we have been duped again. I am sure there is some sort of higher power
You ever heard that histroy is written by the conquers? Think that is wrong? Think that a school system ran by select groups is right? Bible don’t base your entire life off a book written over and over again by man. I was once blind but now I can see.
November 23rd, 2008 at 6:18 am
There have been so many topics brought up in these posts, I can’t even begin to address them all. It’s not like I have all the answers anyway. All I can say is, people should learn to be way more open-minded and respectful of others. Just because you think you have it figured out, doesn’t mean you should belittle others who may not, or who see things differently. Also, if you think someone is incorrect, there is a respectful way to correct them. I’m not pointing fingers, but there is a bunch of things concerning the topics in these posts, that I haven’t seen mentioned here. There are things we may not know that others do. Only through intelligent discourse can we efficiently learn from one another.
November 23rd, 2008 at 10:14 am
Very well put together video.
November 23rd, 2008 at 10:23 am
Check this Out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
November 23rd, 2008 at 10:50 am
That’s it, change is coming, change of plans that is. Don’t worry about Biden, he was only directly tied to some 911 events and now he’s your VP. Nothing to worry about carry on.
November 23rd, 2008 at 11:07 am
Here’s a solution, how about all the people on the boat with rescuing our floundering nation get going? We have one more month before the new year and right now is a good time to be gathering the last of your ammunition and weapons just in case this “generated” crisis comes as the elites said. Right now is also a VERY good time to be organizing people you know who are aware of the situation about guns and forming your own make-shift squads, setting up meet-up points and figuring out major landmarks within a 50-100 mile radius in case your fighting is constricted to your general area.
Now, for those spouting that “god” is coming and that “the end is near” bullshit, listen. If you THINK you’re helping. You’re not. You never will. Your presence hints that you MAY be interested in saving others from slavery, or what I fear to be true. That you have already given up and looking for “signs”, and like the Muslims you know that after your death “paradise” awaits, your “praise” and “obedience” has “pleased” your god and you will no longer have to suffer the sin that he forced upon you.
So if you’re ready to die so eagerly and leave pretty much 98% of the world to suffer (cause all the churches I’ve been to are full of hypocrites and no one sticks to a one “true” story from God himself entirely) then please line up and let the NWO thugs put slugs in your heads. The true fighters of this Revolution in America and abroad can then have total focus on the task at hand, maybe even use your bodies as protection and cover while we deal with the shit you refuse to address and leave us with the mess while you go to the land of lollipops and marshmallows.
Such weakness but yet so much potential, such a waste on a race so willing to trash his unique intelligence for obedience and everlasting life. Be fucking grateful for the one you have now. Be kind and loving to others because YOU want to, not for some god or a book.
Victory to the Cause! Death to the New World Order!
November 23rd, 2008 at 11:10 am
Okay… Understandable. But What’s up with the “Muslim Matrimonial” Ad on Alex Jone’s website.
Seriously!
Is this some kind of joke ??
BTW, I’m a Muslim.
November 23rd, 2008 at 11:11 am
Just like I thought, no answer from the braindead atheist croud.
If anyone who likes to slam the name of Jesus can ever answer I would love to hear.
November 23rd, 2008 at 11:11 am
Hilarious!
November 23rd, 2008 at 11:18 am
Hilarious!
Seriously, Alex…. Take it off your website / It ruins your credibility…
Because it puts you in the so called “same group”.
November 23rd, 2008 at 11:19 am
WE ARE CHANGE ARE AWESOME
November 23rd, 2008 at 11:30 am
zeitgeist is wrong. Many of it’s comparisons between gods were inaccurate…though there are some real similarities. Astrology did spread throughout Europe from persia (roughly) but many religions never followed zoroastrianism. The link to zoroastrianism and other religions occurred slowly and in many cases very recently with the boom of the new age movements. The assimilation of Chrisitanity by the Romans is a point where much of christianity had to be fused with the surrounding non christian beleifs.
On Molec: since when is Molec represented by an owl?…only in dark secrets as far as I can find. Molec is represented by a bull in every other reference. An owl has been a representation of wisdom in much folklore and strangely enough in ancient bablyonia it was a symbol to protect women during childbirth. So… why hasn’t alex jones ever explained this?…or where if I missed it.
November 23rd, 2008 at 11:30 am
YES WHILE YOU ALL SPEAK ABOUT THE BIBLE AND ITS STUPID PROPHESIES THE WORLD IS BEING TURNED INTO A PRISON…WHILE YOU ARGUE OVER SUCH STUPID LITTLE DETAILS ABOUT THE BIBLE YOUR COUNTRY IS BEING TURNED INTO A HELLHOLE. YOU ARGUE ABOUT THE RETURN OF JESUS WHEN ITS POSSIBLE FOR US TO BE THE CHANGERS INSTEAD OF PUTTING ALL OF OUR HOPES ON JESUS. YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE OBAMA SUPPORTERS AND BE OUT SAYING HES THE MASAYA,HE WILL HELP US ALL,HE IS CHANGE…UGH I SEE WHY ALEX GETS SO MAD AT IDIOTS CALLING INTO THE SHOW SAYING..WELL DO YOU BELIEVE IN RETURN OF JESUS,HE IS THE SAVIOR,THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO IF THIS IS THE APOCOLAPES. SINCE WHEN HAVE HUMANS BEEN SUCH STUPID CREATURES TO JUST ROLL OVER ON DEMAND AND BELIEVE IN A BOOK THAT MIGHT NOT EVEN BE TRUE. THINK FOR YOURSELVE AND GET OUT OF THIS RELIGIOUS BUBBLE YOU ARE STUCK IN. I AM NOT SAYING YOU CANNOT BELIEVE IN GOD OR HEAVEN AND HELL BUT DONT BELIEVE IT TO THE EXTENT OF WHICH THESE OTHER IDIOTS BELIEVE IN OBAMA. YOU ARE JUST PROVING YOU ARE JUST AND ARROGENT AND DUMB AS THEY ARE!!!!!!!!!
November 23rd, 2008 at 11:53 am
stick: I believe in Obama he is real I’m not sure about the gods.
Alex uses molec worship to indict the world leaders and shock people into believing his story, but I have yet to see this connection. Why use such a loose connection?
November 23rd, 2008 at 11:59 am
Biden obviously plagarizing when he said Obama’s presidency will bring a generated crisis. He’s a walking leak.
November 23rd, 2008 at 11:59 am
So where does the bible come into this topic in the first place? I thought this article was about Obama and the tests he and uswill go through, now we know those tough times will be planned in accordance with what the NWo wants and has planned. We will end up losing more rights,and Obama will make more change tha will screw all of us over.
I want complete seperation of Church and State, I want to get back to the Constitution, and i want our rights back. I could give a shit about what the Bible does or does not say.
Let’s focus on the problems at hand, not religion.
November 23rd, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Wow, this was really well done. WeAreChange is off-the-hook.
Keep up the good fight!
November 23rd, 2008 at 12:18 pm
9/11 inside job pt.2 should be interesting.
What do the israeli zionist jew terrorists have up their sleeves this time?
November 23rd, 2008 at 12:23 pm
I guess it matters because it was a response to the people on here who like to believe the theatrics within this movement rather than the facts. Others seem to believe theatrics in general like the bible, niburu, chemtrails, and possibly that the bohemian club worship a caanite god known as Molec. I think these theatrics are important because they are mobilizing forces for further belief and action. If the truth movement is to be real it must tell the truth.
November 23rd, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Indian said #71:
“Hilarious!”
What’s funny about factual information?
“Seriously, Alex…. Take it off your website / It ruins your credibility… ”
Cite what you mean. I found nothing in the accompanying video that would ruin Alex’s credibility. It was comprised of news footage and transcription of what was said by those who said it.
“Because it puts you in the so called “same group”.
Of sharing the truth? Of reminding people that there may be an underlying agenda soon after the inauguration?
I love the world of the inarticulate. Must be a ‘happy’ place.
November 23rd, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Some, if not most, will remain willfully kool-aid ignorant, support official lies, bury their head, procrastinate, believe boogie men, deliverance, wants before needs, idolize, no pain, no risk, don’t worry be happy, won’t put comfort on the line, wallow in victim-hood. So be it. Let them be and move on. Why waste brain cells trying to convince the inconvincible. Really, what could they possibly offer other than liability?
November 23rd, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Molech or Molekh is satan. You can find an image of the whore of babylon with two owls in both sides of her. Statue of liberty and virgin mary are the same image of the whore of babylon only with different names.
Yahshuah is the real Christ. Not jesus, name was obviously changed. YHWH the true God.
November 23rd, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Awake
Where, oh bright mind, is the “Seperation of Church and State” IN THE CONSTITUTION?
You may think you are awake but a creton indeed!
November 23rd, 2008 at 1:49 pm
enough with this god crap he’s not gonna help u can stay on your knees and die a coward but wouldn’t u rather go down swinging then go talk to god makes more sense
November 23rd, 2008 at 1:59 pm
As long as Joesama Bin Biden, Sarha Paleface Einstein Palin, and Emanuela Rohmabamadingdong are in the foreseeable country’s future, the future does’nt look too bright. And with Billary Clintonio in the mix — oh man!
November 23rd, 2008 at 2:11 pm
“The Great Whore of Babylon” now sits upon a disgustingly repugnant theft-throne of racist-eugenic tyranny in a Tory palace of Whig fornication called ‘Buckingham”.
November 23rd, 2008 at 2:12 pm
I won’t attack anyone’s beliefs, but I would like to add a perspective to the discussion: I think we all agree that the people behind the money and power write history to suit their purposes and agenda, so why should we believe that they wouldn’t do the same with religious doctrines. Do we think that the scriptures are somehow exempt from this? As for the prophesies coming true, just think about this: is there any reason to believe that they aren’t simply following the prophesies? I’m not claiming to know it all, or even that I am right on this matter, but I would be interested to see a response from a believer.
November 23rd, 2008 at 2:22 pm
god doesnt give a crap about america , or israel or any other nation on earth for that matter, the only use the bibile has is to use the papers to roll joints and jews arent the “chosen” people because theres no way that a “just and loving” god would choose one group of people over another. now , can we please all grow up and stop believing in an invisible man in the clouds!!!!!
November 23rd, 2008 at 2:37 pm
It amazes me how many people spend soo much time talking about Mary the mother of Jesus as if she were a simple whore! you are sick,,,the lot of you,,,how would you like it if someone called your mom a whore?????> would it not enrage you>>????? indeed it would!!!! be wary of Gods wrath ,,indeed perhaps this is why the entire world groans for enslavement because they have lost their faith!!!!!!!!!!! indeed the bible tells me soo!! the defamation of Mary comes from the masonic as well as other societies ,,dont buy into it for a second!! in Luke it says generations shall call her blessed,,,,amen!
November 23rd, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Roland,
I have for two days been trying to get someone to answer this question. You touched on it in a way so here is and answer to your question and my question that no one seems to be able to answer,
It has been said, mostly by the Zeitgeist croud, that religion is used by those in power to control the masses. Why then, do these same persons who “control” us all by religion practice religion as well? Yes, they serve a god named Molec, Baal and a few others. I serve Jesus who from the beginning has fought against those who worship Molec. So how are the ‘elite’ controling us with religion but yet practicing it at the same time?
I have given one example of a prophecy that can not be refuted, the destruction of Tyre and the prophecy that she would never be rebuilt. Kings and kingdoms have tried and failed to resurrect her. The prophecy that Israel would become a nation again after they were scattered all over the wolrd…this has never been done in history.
So the ‘elite’ believe in their religion, throughout history these people have lothed the Name of Jesus…why do you think this is? Have you ever heard them Taking the name of Budda in vain? Of course not, neither have you heard them blaspheme Mohammed. There is something about the Wonderful Name of Jesus. Those who worship Molec will tell you the same.
November 23rd, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Bible Act
The elite practice/use religion ‘as it has been concocted by man on planet earth’ while true believers in the word should be practicing the only true religion as specified by James 1:21 or James 1:27, which is to take care of widows, widowers orphans and the poor.
From the bewilderness–thanks for coming! James Mansfield
November 23rd, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Bible Act 1
You appear to have been deluded as all followers of Templar Theocratic Tyranny who patronize Satanic Corporate Temples of “Religion” rather than practicing true faith as Our Savior taught us by the performing the divin sacred loving sacrament of Charity as opposed to offering your sacrifices to a corporate-Satanic gnostic criminal mafia! Corporate Templar religionism is the antiChrist! A Christian’s Temple is all the world and in every moment of his life it is not EVER to be found in any established temple-of-greed and tyranny bricks and mortar “Jeheezus Palace”!
Faith is one’s belief in the divine universal transcendental creative gravitational dimension of The Unity Of All Love Itself which is Our Father, the gift of that tiny unique element of His Divine Love which is Our Soul, and That Divine Union which is it’s heavenly home – but only if that flame of His Divine Love has been nurtured by our Sacrifices of Charity (the only true Sacrament) and not ever fully extinguished by the heart’s self-vacuous sins of greed and hate for selfish goals beyond that of our safe and comfortable survival. Thus our Divine Loving Soul doth reunite with Our Father for all eternity or that self satiated and over quenched and thus vacated empty grail of your soul’s chalice is vanished and your Love is stricken from the Book of Life for all eternity.
Unless you are one who is oppressed or impoverished and in dire need you shall likely never actually ever see, lest you might witness, anyone practice their “religion”!
November 23rd, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Bible Act I, you make some interesting points, but I still don’t see an answer to my question. We all know that the elite have used misinformation through history to shape world events. My question is, even if Jesus is the son of God, why do you believe that the elite wouldn’t change parts of the scripture to lead us astray? They write everything else as they see fit, why not the bible? Why is there so much contradiction between the god of the old and new testament? If God is perfect and infallable, then why a few thousand years into the story, did he change the way that things were done? Would a perfect God need to overhaul the salvation system? Now this is not what I believe, it’s just an example, but for the sake of argument, let’s just say that good deeds and helping people is what it really takes to get to heaven. If you start telling people that all they have to do is ask forgiveness and they can do whatever they want (I know that is not really how it works in the Christian faith but that is how many so called Christians feel), that is an easy way to get people to commit evil deeds, or to feel that they don’t need to do good or help others to be good people. And Christianity really IS sold to people on the grounds of “Anything goes, just ask forgiveness. Sorry to rant.
November 23rd, 2008 at 4:37 pm
My point is that many people focus on the forgiveness and salvation and are into religion for purely selfish reasons, while ignoring the actual teachings and works of Christ.
November 23rd, 2008 at 4:46 pm
A truly Christian church-building is and could only ever be a Collection and Distribution Center for the Divine Loving Blessings of Charity, it is NEVER a some sort of a palace of elite theocratic Satan, or Satan forbid, noble proselytizing theocratic desolationist warlord!
Any heretic who tries to tell you ‘god’ (The Unity of All Love Itself) is ‘over there” or ‘in my tabernacle’ or ‘in my book’ and NOT IN YOU, is promoting the Abomination of Desolation – seperataing and mediating between you and the fundamental self redeeming TRUTH of Our Savior’s Lesson to us!
Unlike an old fashioned Jewish selfish blood-sacrifice Temple of the Old Hebrew Testament which COULD BE CLOSED (by an invader/occupier for instance) a Christian’s New Judeo-Christian Testament Charitable Temple is a personal and neighborly agnostic one encompassing all of the whole universe of our lives opportunities to give and ‘it’ CAN NEVER BE CLOSED!
November 23rd, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Anyone who voted for Obama should be removed from America.
November 23rd, 2008 at 4:55 pm
That could be your next person to approach.. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff! and
follow the chain of command up.. the buck stops somewhere.
November 23rd, 2008 at 5:03 pm
OK…
First off no charitable giving, helping poor and needy will do one thing for you redemption. Christ’s Blood is your only hope of eternity with Him. You can be a murderer and be in heaven. David and Moses were both guilty of murder and they will be in heaven. It means nothing what you do for your righteousness “Is as filthy rags.”
Second, An infinite Book written by an Infinate God will remain infinate even though there are translations. God would not allow His Book to do anything but remain infallible no matter how many attemps are made from those who despise His Name. They have no power over Christ what makes you think they have any power over His inerrant Word?
Lastly, God is “The same yesterday, today and forever.” While you may seem to see something else it is no so. The God of the OT is the same God of the New Test. There is a New Covenant “In His Blood” but this is the only thing that even comes close to a ‘changing’ God.
If you have Jesus in your life you will desire to do good but if you are doing good in order to attain everlasting life apart from the blood of Jesus you are in for a dire surprise. JESUS SAID, “I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, NO MAN COMMETH UNTO THE FATHER BUT BY ME.” There is NO WAY except the shed blood of the Master.
BTW I am not ‘religios’ I am saved by the blood of Jesus. I believe the Bible AS IT IS WRITTEN and serve the God of creation, Jesus Christ!
November 23rd, 2008 at 5:15 pm
R.I.P America.
November 23rd, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Certainly would like to believe. But seeing Bush claim God instructs him blew it for me!
All jokes’ aside, what’s the difference between faith and fanaticism? I spent my entire childhood and part of my adult life in parochial schools. Learned Latin as an altar boy, received all of the sacraments, daily and nightly prayer, weekly confession, Sunday service, etc. Came very close to entering the priesthood and was talked out of it by a priest! No regrets there.
But by the 60’s, things begin to change. Services were held in English instead of Latin. Nuns wore dresses instead of traditional garb and some of them looked pretty good! The Church was fitted with a life size Jesus nailed to the cross. Statues and other relics scattered throughout the Church. The feeling of joy replaced with a sense of foreboding. The Church went from light to a dingy darkness. And I remember helping one of the visiting priests off the altar because he was to drunk to leave on his own.
Ask and you shall receive. Well I did ask. And those questions got me black balled as an altar boy. The questions were legit and dealt strictly with faith. The answers were patronizing, a blow off or none. My faith in God was still strong but my fate in man (clergy) was not.
Just before graduation a very old nun told me something. She said, ‘Remember, God is personal and The Holy Book something else’. Didn’t understand the meaning then but have come to understand it over time.
What’s the difference between faith and fanaticism? God is in the mirror and the Holy Book’s are something else. In other words, believing in ones self is your faith in God.
On a personal note, don’t know what made me think of this until now.
November 23rd, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Not to knock you religion but Catholicism is Satan’s greatest triumph. In the Catholic church you must ‘do’ to get eternal life. My salvation came from nothing I did! It came from what Jesus did on the cross. I did not deserve it, did nothing to get it but bow to the King of king’s and Lord of lord’s for choosing me before the foundations of the earth.
The differance between all religions and being one of His is just that! You can do nothing as a finite human being to have eternal life, it all comes down to what He has already done.
November 23rd, 2008 at 7:10 pm
This is for you, Wizard.
http://www.sharingtruth.org/goodnewsshort.html
November 23rd, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Wizard, I highly respect your decision to get involved with the church, however, I urge you to distance yourself from Catholicism. For reasons why, please search for “Total Onslaught: Secret Societies” on google videos, and even watch the other incredible lectures by Walter Veith. Catholicism is decieving many good-hearted people into participating in an organization which claims Christianity, but on the inside, is in fact completely controlled by secret Luciferian societies/the Jesuit order. In these end times, Jesus said… “Be careful that no man decieve you”…. Indeed, DECEPTION is at a level never seen in the history of the world, and it will only get worse until the end of time. I HIGHLY recommend distancing yourself from the church.
November 23rd, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Zbigniew Brzezinski is all that is evil and I think the 911 co-author.
All you need to know is Obama is working with him. Enough said.
November 23rd, 2008 at 8:25 pm
The coming year of 2009 is going to produce suprising events here in America and other parts around the world.Here is my conclusions to a staged event here in the US
(1) nuclear devices placed in major cities in the US to go off
(2) Isreal attacks Iran,thus drawing the world into WW III
(3) major 9.0 earthquakes causing major damage in various parts of the world
(4) final economic collapse of the US economy where martial law is enacted
November 23rd, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Mike Rivero over at WRH is having to eat crow on the installment plan,a little portion each day as Obama’s new administration looks like a 3rd Clinton administration with a rich Zionist sauce,topped off with a garnish of Trilateralist parsley. I hope Alex has Mike on at the first of the month as he usually does so he can toast his chestnuts over a hot Patriot fire.
As to another false flag,staged incident in the offing;Bring it on you NWO scum!
November 23rd, 2008 at 8:56 pm
I wonder if they are promoting fear to assure that plenty of Israel-first members get into cabinet and retain other key positions, in media, financials, etc.
The same fear that causes these “leaders” to rely on the security experts who are our allies, tends to be used to additionally promote and implement false flag and later cover ups.
November 23rd, 2008 at 9:01 pm
#106 many plausible scenarios. Nuclear devices may have been planted and have already been used as threat through the past decades to allow further infiltration by NWO players into key sectors of business/government. With 20+ in place, could they even threaten to blast 1-5 and those in the circle better be quiet about it to avoid the remaining 15+?
November 23rd, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Stephen Woodruff: You know this how?
November 23rd, 2008 at 9:27 pm
There are now really only 2 main suspects to who exactly planted them. The main one is CDI Controlled Demolition Inc who was at WTC’s 1, 2 and 7 BEFORE, DURING, and after 9-11 for 3 months, wrote the NIST report that no explosives were used, and was paid $35 Billion dollars by Bush to clean up and destroy all the building material. The other was a demolition company from the UK that had direct political, managerial, and financial ties to very good friends of Larry Silverstein and Rupert Murdoch by way of Rudy Giuliani. Kingstar is the name. (Mr. Giuliani was at this demolition company headquarters in the UK on the very morning of 7/7/05 during the London bombings. To this date he will give no reason why he was in the UK or for what purpose. For more info on 7/7 and the stunning similarities to 911 go to http://www.documentarywire.com.....diversion/ ).
November 23rd, 2008 at 9:29 pm
#102 #103 and #104 Thanks for your concern. However, I’m well ahead of you. I definitely don’t believe in the concept of religion. The history is nothing to write home about. The idea of God was hijacked and along with religion is used to control. I’m well aware of that. What I was trying to convey is that the concept of a faith is a part of us. We face it everyday as depicted in the mirror. I used the term God because it’s recognized by most. There’s nothing mystical or metaphysical about it. Is there a Supreme Being? Don’t know but I do keep an open mind. What I do know is that what most of us have been taught, from day one, is about as believable as the official 9/11 fairy tale.
November 23rd, 2008 at 11:03 pm
#94
When asking the LORD for forgiveness, he will forgive; however, you should repent on the grounds that you will try not to commit the same deeds over and over again. In other words, be serious about repetence…
EX: don’t continue to steal over and over again and think ah it’s no biggie, I will be forgiven anyway, so I continue you to steal because GOD will forgive me. He is a loving GOD and will forgive, but don’t take advantage of him.
November 23rd, 2008 at 11:12 pm
I’ve found through individualism interlaced with altruism is a mix to an understanding towards peace and justice. Time will come when it will be based on what you do best; that being one’s salvation. Attain inner dignity in ones’ action to fulfil the true self. Claim god in ones’ actions.
Obama will only decept the inner consciousness of the people to inevitable revolt where a watchful policestay survives blodgently within high middle class suburbs living comfortably within a corporate paradigm and manipulated values of complete ego driven psyches s the prisoners of the FEMA camps.
Fantastic living in an imploding Panzi scheme dedicated to complete control run through debt binding us to simplistic, selfish organizations based on profit without responsibility and good of the individual rather than consumer based on cheapest for the average joe dedicating our lives to economic slavery and the eventual suffication on complete corporate entities (wait, that already happened).
We need control over the companies in reform globally to play chess with billions. Intellect and decision will be the innovative frontal lobe activity activating increased mental problem solving to find answers in the external where ideas are found. Read Marshal McLuhan and find how are minds are shaped by the medium themselves forming consciousness and perception through technology and its’ advance in formation. Use the technology as a tool to enhance the aware populous. Create newsletters and pamphlets. Fight the ego and think original.
November 24th, 2008 at 2:10 am
Post 111: the link you provided states the web page cannot be found–not surprisingly. If you made a typo can you please give us the correct link? Peace.
November 24th, 2008 at 2:12 am
comment 111 and everybody else, http://www.documentarywire.com states its gone. Seems strange, does it not? Peace.
November 24th, 2008 at 7:14 am
#1- Bible Act 1, if people dont want to hear then back off. God pulls at the heart not you!
#2- Biden did say he could 4or 5 senerieos so “they” look like they’ve several plans of attack
November 24th, 2008 at 7:41 am
The crisis has to do with the economy, Iran, and Israel. It’s no big mystery. It could be generated before Obama is sworn in or after.
And yes, it will require tough decisions how ever you look at it. And the tough times have nothing to do with Zbigniew Brzezinski who’s been out of office for 28 years.
November 24th, 2008 at 8:10 am
Why are Henry Kissinger, David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski aloud to walk around in public, they should all be thrown in jail with no chance of parole for their treasonous acts?
November 24th, 2008 at 10:13 am
God will not let you repent, Even god knows that there is no such thing as heven and hell, He does know that there are going to be alot of sheeple that die in the next big generated crisis. I want your thought on are savor God you by the way is not real, but indeed a methotical character
November 24th, 2008 at 10:21 am
SAYS……i feel sorry for you. you are without hope.
November 24th, 2008 at 10:50 am
http://aukina4israel1.multiply....._Jerusalem
According to biblical history that would be the gospel’ and historians like Josephus, the Jews killed and plotted against the promise messiah (Jesus Christ the son of God all almighty: Jehu or Jehovah) there God and savior for the time being..at the time. By them refusing to accept the messiah they broke the covenant law and God (jeh.) turned away from them because of there wickedness. He punished them as prophesy by the greater prophets before him(the coming of Messiah) that they would be sent into exile and not to return. You see that they can not return with the purpose to rebuild, ask the orthodox Jews who follow the Torah they can tell you themselves. Any way they both didn’t accept the messiah and still are waiting for some redeemer. One of group Jews are against the state of Zion and the other would die for it.(these fanatical so call Jews are not the original people of the bible of which God almighty had made a covenant with…they are converts from central Asia called so “called Jews”.Jews per say have no race,or color and no culture because what Rome left behind was a waste land. Josephus gives a very well account of what happened…research it for your conscience. The Zionist to make it short have made pact with Satan, Lucifer and disown God almighty. You very well know that there time will come for reparations and Jesus Lord almighty will crush any uprising against the spiritual Jews meaning any person that takes the Christ as savior and redeemer. The Luciferians have build a temple in Jerusalem to mock the coming of Jesus. The Zionist and the Illuminati’s both the same they started at the house of Rothschild two hundreds years ago and some in may 1, 1776 to be exacted. They are the “SLAVE CLASS” for Satan and his demons, they slave for him and only him…one can say they are off springs of Satan since they emulate him so precisely. There love for power, there greed for money, there thirst for blood, the mass killing and suffering that has plaque the world is all the great conspiracy that few intellects hear about and trickles to the masses at the end. There only a few people with brain power and enough courage to come forth and tell the truth, this site is meant for this purpose so while you have time and resource support what makes sense to you….if that hasn’t become to hard for you at time time! Please click on the link and behold…
Ralph Warcloud
November 24th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
O baaaaaaaaaaaa ma
You fucking sheep!!
November 25th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
mark my words, new york sooner or later will be bombed. when that’s gonna happen? i don’t know, but mark my words, it will. just don’t ask me how i know. I KNOW !!!
another thing, sooner or later, this administration is gonna cease support to israel, leaving it vulnerable to muslim countries to attack. third world war? i think so !!!
just one last detail. call me nuts, i don’t care, but MARK MY WORDS, the so called leader from the so called new world order, will come from the israel/palestine zone. don’t ask me how i know, ok? trust me, I JUST KNOW !!!!
just analyze what i said and try to connect some dots…have fun !!!!
January 10th, 2009 at 12:48 am
Atheists… Hmmph. Before I call upon God to save us, I will first say that God didn’t have anything to do with what is upon us. Man did this. It is mans free thinking will and greed that brought this hell upon us. Appointing people into positions of power and then carelessly trusting them as if they were without sin, that is what caused this madness. Denouncing Jesus and claiming yourself to be almighty, powerful, or the rulers over your own existence is truly ignorant. All you have to do is look at what you’ve allowed yourself to become victims of to realize that you indeed have no power at all. You truly rule nothing. You have a job, a boss, a superior and if you’re lucky enough, a wife. All of which you kiss ass to. You are nothing, even on that pathetic level you aren’t in control of a damn thing. Evolution.. wow, billions of years? Think about how long a BILLION years is man… seriously… we’ve nearly destroyed the earth within the last 100 and you morons are sitting here believing that you were once apes. Take one good look at Beyonce or Angelina Jolie and tell me they were once monkey’s. You people are Delusional.