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Video Surfaces Of 9/11 Commissioner Referring To “Missile” At Pentagon
Misinterpretation, slip of the tongue of deliberate disinformation?
Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Monday, Jan 12th, 2009
An interesting video originating from the last anniversary of 9/11 has surfaced in the last couple of days and is currently doing the rounds on various video websites.
The video features a segment of a CNN interview with 9/11 Commission member Tim Roemer during which he declares that the attack on the Pentagon came from a “missile”.
Roemer quickly corrects himself:
“Seeing one of our fortresses pried open by a missile… airplane, thinking about the number of people that died….”. Roemer states.
Watch the video:
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A Democrat, Roemer served in the United States House of Representatives for twelve years before becoming the president of the Center for National Policy (CNP), a Washington, D.C-based national security think tank in 2003.
Is Roemer alluding to the fact that the airplane acted as a missile, or is this a slip of the tongue?
If so it would not be the first time such a slip has occurred.
On October 12, 2001 former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld made a similar comment in an interview with Parade magazine, stating:
“Here we’re talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center. The only way to deal with this problem is by taking the battle to the terrorists, wherever they are, and dealing with them.”
Rumsfeld also keeps a piece of the supposed flight 77 on his desk as a reminder of the attacks. He once infamously referred to the grisly souvenir as “a piece of the missile” that hit the Pentagon.
The missile at the Pentagon theory is one facet of 9/11 research that fiercely divides the truth community.
Proponents claim that a lack of debris on the Pentagon lawn, combined with the small size of the hole in the building’s facade and the near impossible maneuvers a jetliner would have had to make to strike the building indicate that some form of robust missile caused the damage.
Meanwhile other researchers have dismissed the theory as ill conceived and point out that large amounts of debris were recovered from inside the building. It has even been suggested that the references to a missile are part of a purposeful disinformation tactic designed to discredit stronger evidence of foul play surrounding the attacks.
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January 12th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Will somone please make a backup copy of this before you tube declares this video a “violation of their terms of service” and pulls it?
Thanks.
ashnbell Reply:
January 12th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
If you’re using internet explorer to view the video you’ve probably got a backup copy in your temporary internet files folder.
Ordering the files by accessed date or by size and looking for a multi megabyte file with an access date around the time you started watching should get you there.
hint: some sites save the video files into temporary internet files folder without a video format file extension… in this case just fish it out of there and rename it ___.flv or ___.avi and then you should be able to find something to play it on (VLC usually works for me)
TheParadigmShift Reply:
January 13th, 2009 at 1:42 am
Copy the Youtube URL and paste it in the box at http://www.keepvid.com
Click on download HIGH RES .mp4
You know have a backup of a Youtube video. I do it for all videos I find important.
Theywontchipme Reply:
January 13th, 2009 at 6:17 am
use firefox browser and get the video download helper addon .. makes saving files extremely easy..
Dave Mann Reply:
January 13th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Not strong evidence in my opinion. We have hard evidence such at the exit hole through ring three of the Pentagon and the four frames of video from the gas station security cam - where there simply IS NO PLANE. So who needs “slips of the tongue” to prove the case??
January 12th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Leaks like these will have you wondering unless you fully investigate the phenomena in evidence on the day of the attack and what still is in evidence at ground zero - or listen to those who ARE still investigating and not just listen exclusively to Stephen Jones, who is settled in with the theory his handlers have agreed on and is only running interference for the single theory that the buildings were taken down with thermite, with his forced admission that explosive charges had to be used in addition to the unsatisfactory thermite which doesn’t have the required compression value. Using loaded language such as “hysterical” will not discourage interest in Dr Judy Wood’s very professional research. She does NOT claim that photographic fakery accounted for the building takedowns: that is the claim of Ace Baker, who has backed up this claim with good evidence. Dr Wood uses unconventional language to describe some of the phenomena (for instance, “toasted cars”) because she doesn’t want to prejudice her investigations with specific language (”burned”, “radiated”, or the like), and has said that that is why she does so. Dr Wood has dismissed the hypothesis that a small nuke was used, by the way. Jason, Alex, Steve, get your facts straight.
January 12th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Miles O Bryan got fired for reporting on UFO’s recently, all of the clips on this flick are perfect proof, However the general population of the US is so apathetic and uninformed that this will never hit home!
Get ready for the end, we deserve it! Where are my CHEEZY POOFS!?
January 12th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
It’s an intentional slip up. This guy is on our side.
January 12th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
RE: Dave Begotka;
I got ‘em, right next to my tasty cakes.
January 12th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
A video that sure wasn’t shown on the Nazi-Zionist controlled US media.
The Jewish Press Barons who set up the whole thing and put on such a sophisticiated media presentation of “planes crashing here and there,” to justify all those wars they profitted from are guilty of the whole’s biggest ever heist. We goyim, half beasts, shouldn’t let them get away with it anymore. The international Zionist Talmud network based around close knit communities needs to be cracked once and for all - because that’s where these kind of sophisticated crimes must be being hatched. Or where else?
The Jewish Press Barons to the people of America lied about 9/11.
The Jewish Press Barons lied to the Americans about Iraq.
The jewish Press Barons lied to Americans about the financial crisis the engineered to crash the system to buy up assets on the keep - remember the trick Rothschild used to clean up at the battle of Waterloo where he paid one person to announce Napoleon had one, another to tell everyone how Rothschild was selling all his bonds and stocks and a third person, when everyone sold their bonds and stocks depressing the prices, to buy up the cheap stocks on the sly.
This financial crisis is the same principle but more embellished.
And now the Jewish Press Barons are lying about the deaths of Palestinians in the prison camp of Gaza.
And frankly, we’re sick of it.
Something's Happening Reply:
January 12th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
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January 12th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
vladimir
Please let us know where we can get these facts so we can make our own contributions based on our own experience. No one (including you) except the criminals has a complete picture.
I saw a picture of a jet engine fan part from the Pentagon so I think he misspoke. But the military did have remote controlled jets back then too, big ones, which could have been used like a missile.
Unlike you who obviously did not “fully investigate the phenomena in evidence” I will say go back in old issues of AFP and you will see the picture for yourself.
Brizzle Reply:
January 12th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
here is the best analysis of the events before and after. These facts are 99% true
http://video.google.com/videop.....&hl=en
January 12th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Uh… just where was the debris from the plane…? Amazing how it all sort of just vaporized away! Including those great big jet engines whose vaporization into plasma would require thousands and thousands of degrees.
January 12th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Dudes, In LALA land anything is possible!
January 12th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxcP7aOg_sE
Lies, lies, and more lies!
January 12th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
I see that the DISINFORMATION program is reaching another level.
This missile stuff and of course the TV FAKERY is getting much attention as of late.
These theories are made to be used later to debunk conspiracy theorists in documentaries and pseudo truth boards.
THe 911 disinformants are the terrorists
SmartHippie Reply:
January 12th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
The topic you raise is an important one, thanks Mr. Truth.
There is a lot of BS out there, and as you say, it is only used as fodder for corporate media to slander the entire truth movement. It is effective.
There are so many things about 911 that we can never know for certain, all relating to what really did happen.
But what we do know for certain is that:
The official story is a lie.
The lie was promoted by our corporate media in perfect harmony with the government.
Maintaining the lie was the central purpose of the 911 Commission.
Democrats and Republicans worked together to maintain the lie.
There is ample evidence to refute the lie.
So now what is the best use of our time?
To sit around arguing with each other about missiles, fake TV, and all sorts of new high tech weaponry we barely understand? No.
The best use of our time is to focus in on one single issue.
WE DEMAND A NEW CREDIBLE, INDEPENDENT, PROPERLY FUNDED INVESTIGATION !!!!!
We have had ample proof to demand it for years, but we are now in a weakened confused state.
The 911 perps and their mouthpieces can take control of the debate. They make us explain everything, don’t they? Seriously, how often have you read some dirty disinformation troll boldly challenging truthers, saying “Oh yeah, well how come……..
The moment they put the onus on us to prove this, prove that, and prove every little thing, is the moment they have the upper hand in the debate. And if there is one thing we all know, it is that our adversary the NWO is very good at stuff like this.
We play right into their hands when we get so absorbed in solving all the details and logistical aspects of the crime.
I don’t give a fuck if it was, conventional explosives, nukes, microwave, HAARP or if Barbara Bush was in there dropping those towers with quifes (look it up) and farts. It matters NOT.
We know Bush/Cheney and leading Democrats are guilty. Beyond that we know sweet fuck all.
We only have a bunch of likely theories and with those, we fight among ourselves…..just as the NWO scum want us to do.
Let us all focus, and sing with one voice.
A new investigation. Properly funded. Fully independent. Fully transparent.
We will have our answers then.
January 12th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
You can easily see from the angle of the hit that it was a missile due to the low trajectory, plus there is no wreckage from an ariplane. Same is true of the airplane ‘crash’ in Pennsylvania, there is a ten-foot deep crater and a small pile of sheet metal readily visible on the mainstream press videos which you can see as those jokers blather on and on about an airliner having just crashed there. All lies.
mr_bad Reply:
January 13th, 2009 at 8:01 am
You’re right.
Ernest Radley Reply:
January 19th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
There are so many contradictory accounts abt the PA one its hard to say what really happened. Numerous people have come out saying the plane was shot down by the airforce and that is supported by evidence such as debris being found several miles away. There is the official story, which most on here would strongly think is not true, and there is the missile theory. Just saw a pic of them digging out one of the engines from the crater, so that would tend to make one think there was some sort of a plane that did crash. Then there is the theory that the offical flight 93 story is partly true (passengers taking over) but then the gov shot the plane down so there would be no living “terroroists” to expose the truth.
January 12th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Tip for Gary and others:
In case there are those of you out there who didn’t already know, there are various freeware programs which can download the youtube flv file to your hard drive so you can have a permanent copy of it. If youtube makes a video disappear, you’ll have a copy that can be uploaded to somewhere else. As I recall, Firefox also has an addon you can get which will do the same thing for saving flv files to your hard drive.
Put “freeware youtube video downloader” into a search engine and choose what strikes your fancy.
Do the same for finding a freeware flv player.
The latest version of freeware Irfanview will play flv files.
January 12th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Rob in CT:
That part was too small to go to a jet. However, it was the right size for a guided missle propulsion system. How curious, eh?
January 12th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Building 7 was just the worst building ever created. Stupid engineers. And couldn’t you hear the dopplar effect of the terrorists yelling as they wizzed by the camera into the pentagon… That yyyeeeeeEEEHHHHAAAaaawwwwwwww……. The smoke was just Looney Tunes style vapor trail behind the plane. Seriously, the main story released by the US government is comical to anyone living outside the USA. It was a tragic event, but there was no truth told.
January 12th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Its soo obvious that 911 was an inside job. Only the dumbest of the dumb can still consider this event to have been a terrorist attack.
And still the entire world uses it to push through laws and restrictions on our personal freedom.
“One lie to rule them all, one lie to find them, one lie to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them”.
ashnbell Reply:
January 12th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
“Only the dumbest of the dumb can still consider this event to have been a terrorist attack.”
Too true,… Unfortunatley though, I fear that if there is ever a proper investigation into these matters that George Bush’s lawyers will probably be relying heavily on that claim when they try to save him from getting the chair
January 12th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
To their defense, a missile is described as:
“An object or weapon that is fired, thrown, dropped, or otherwise projected at a target; a projectile.”
ashnbell Reply:
January 12th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
True, it’s perfectly possible that he’d just heard the plane refered to as “the plane the terrorists used as a missile” a lot and just accidently picked the more controvercial of the two words… just as it’s possible that the something similar happened with rumsfeld when he refered to whatever hit the pentagon as a missile….
However, the more people who are in positions to know the power where they would likely know the facts “accidentally” refer to it as a missile rather than a plane, the less chance there is that it’s just an accident that they’re failing to refer to it as a plane.
Every extra bit of evidence that casts doubt over the official account of 9/11 acts to increase the chances that people will conclude (if they take the time to consider the evidence available of course) that the official account is bogus.
January 12th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Thanks Steve Williams.
Yes, it could have been some kind of missile. If only we had any of the video that the government confiscated all around the area.
But no, you have to TRUST them! You are not allowed to make up your own mind.
January 12th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
дебил!
January 12th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Ok retardmarine,
so then how do you explain the fact thaty there was not enough debris for it to have been a commercial airliner? Nor a hole big enough for one?
How do you explain the fraud in the “official story” When they say that Jet Fuel (which is no different than Kerosene which does not burn hot enough to melt steel) vaporized 3,000 tons of steel and titanium, and somehow left bodies behind?
What about all those tapes that would have been proof that were confiscated by the FBI and still not released to the public?
If it Was indeed an airliner then why not release those tapes to the public to proove it?
These are not theories, these are the cold hard facts.
You should have picked a job in the sciences retardmarine. Your ability to comprehend factual scientific data is obviously moot.
Who’s the retard now BITCH!!
Why don’t you go kill some babies in some foreign country or something!
January 12th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
And that’s SEWERS
Moron
Get hooked on Phonics.
They don’t teach english comprehension in the Core do they!!
January 12th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
There is a possible development with 9/11. People should determine whether the following artice is a high level leak or not. I suggest that there are some legs contained in it but it needs referral out and some good analysis, if someone has a year or two to spare. But perservere at least with a reading of the 381 pages, it is enlightening somewhat.
see http://www.Scribd.com/doc/9423.....d-December - 008.
Any problems? The serach the last 5 words and 008 and it should work.
January 12th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Reconmarine:
It’s spelled “sewers”…
“Suers” are people who sue.
If the various videos were released instead of being kept locked away, this wouldn’t even be an issue. At least for what struck the Pentagon. Not as to why it did.
Here’s some stuff to mull over in the meantime…
http://www.the7thfire.com/Poli.....ht-77.html
Do I really know what hit the Pentagon? Nope. I’m (just like a lot of other folks) waiting for the actual truth, whatever it may be.
January 12th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Dude!!!! I just hate it when there are witnesses! Like last night when your mother was giving me a rim job…..it was so much fun, and then those witnesses showed up and I got so nervous I crapped in her mouth.
She was pretty cool about it though, great lady, your mom.
January 12th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
There is a better video out there. it is taken from above like from a Helicopter. Its a
missle. The US is full of moles its like swiss cheese. They have infiltrated everything
everywhere. And unfortunately we suck at catching them. Look at that FBI guy. The
whole scene is sold out.
January 12th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
The FED won’t even tell you were your tax money is going. Its a Corrupt Toilet. Steal 50
Billion stay in your 7 Million dollar home. Don’t pay your Packing Ticket they know. Please
its a frickin joke. Oh and the young people are getting a Pile of Crap thanks to the OLD
out of Control assholes that rule this joke.
January 12th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
He’s been watching too many 9/11 videos. Whoops.
January 12th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
To those who are bashing reconmarine, keep in mind he’s got a job to do. If he felt his government was sending him out to do their dirty work… How could he feel good about his job? Seriously, how could he enter another Country and treat the indiginous population as less than human? How, if his own Government were lying to him, could he wake up in the morning and do the job that needs to be done? Wether that job should be policing some “Hadji” in Iraq or those damned 9-11 truthers in in New York? So, keep in mind a marine killing because he’s been told to do so, with out question, is his duty and the only way he knows how to show his patriotism.
Although, reconmarine, it might just benefit you to buy a dictionary.
Oh, and thanks for keeping us safe from people who have absolutely no effect on our lives what so ever.
Forced Freedom Reply:
January 12th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
militantplumber,
It is blatantly obvious that you have zero clue as to what the “Mission” of the military truly is. It is NOT the mission of the US Military to keep YOU safe, PERIOD!
The US Military has a mission that goes WAY BEYOND the scope that most people either cannot or will not comprehend, But it is ABSOLUTELY NOT their mission to keep YOU safe, THAT IS YOUR JOB, NOT THEIRS.
January 12th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Yeah he should show some REAL patriotism and shoot himself.
January 12th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
roemer is intentionally trying to plant disinfo, pretending it was a slip. the question is why is prisonplanet rehashing this old news? why is prison planet trying to push missile disinfo? are they unaware of the latest information on the subject? are all of you unaware of cit’s witness interviews with the people who saw the plane’s last 1/4 mile of flight prior to the explosion? nothing hit the pentagon, not a missile, not an a3, not a global hawk, nothing. the plane never hit the building, it flew right on past it. go the pentacon.com and get familiar with some real evidence on the matter, please. this missile disinfo is yesterday’s honeypot and needs to be discarded and removed from the collective consciousness of fellow pursuers of 9/11 truth.
January 12th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
If you look close at the video , you can see Cheney in the bushes with the rocket controls in his hands! Bush was busy planning Katrina!
January 12th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
according to my google earth based calculation it would have taken about a second for the plane/missile to cover the distance from the last road it crossed to the pentagon at the speed we’re told it was going. Aditionally, to clip those lamp posts it would have to have been pretty low down too. Not ideal circumstances for estimating the size of the plane/missile by any stretch of the imagination.
Additionally, the people on that road had been listening to reports about airliners being flown into buildings for the previous hour of so on their car radios (well, a fair few of them had). If you were sat in your car and something flashed over head, going very low and very fast, when you were aware that air liners had been crashing into buildings all morning, what would your brain be thinking was the most likely explanation for the moment of activity you’d hardly had a second to react to before it was all over in a fireball? From the evidence available to it, was the most likely explanation for what had just happened?
When Jean Charles de Menzes (not sure if i speeled that rite) was shot a fortnight after the 7/7 attacks, the witnesses interviewed outside the station were reporting wires hanging from his coat as he ran onto the train when in reality (when the CCTV tapes eventually showed up) it turned out that he’d walked onto the train calmly and didn’t have any obvious wires hanging from his person. The people outside the station had concluded he was most likely another suicide bomber and filled in the gaps with their imaginations.
It wouldn’t have taken more than a couple of people sounding confident that it was an airliner among the bystanders at the pentagon to convince people that it was an airliner like the other attacks that morning.
Irrelevant anyway. There’s plenty of video that could settle it. Leaving the victims families who believe/suspect that the US government had a hand in their loved one’s deaths when they’ve had the ability to release the tapes and settle it for all these years is crime enough, even if they were innocnent of any involvement (which i doubt very much)
January 12th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Like it or lump it, it was a cruise missile, drogued and fired from a C-130 west of DC in the mountains of West Virginia. The 757 met and followed the missile in to create the deception. The cruise missile hit, the 757 skimmed low over the Pentagon and landed at National where it was hangered until the coast was clear. There was a photo on the Internet briefly showing the two over the grass headed for the Pentagon, the missile in the lead with the nose of the 757 close behind. Not surprisingly, that photo went away in a big hurry probably never to be seen again. On the face of it, there is no way a 757 with a wingspan of some 120 feet can fly through a 16-foot hole or that two huge engines you can walk through vaporized. Anyone who dismisses the cruise missile theory as disinformation is in fact themselves engaging in disinformation. But what difference does it really make? The boys in black now have the power and influence to feed us horse manure, call it steak, and make us like it. There will be no new 9/11 commission; those who committed the most treasonous act in US history will go scot free. And we’ll keep mumbling and bumbling along as I’m doing now until Russia puts our lights out for good….coming soon. Putin knows the truth of 9/11 and where those behind it are headed, they think. He has different plans and an awesome arsenal of nukes to implement them. Revelations Chap 18, the first part, where the US is Babylon, destroyed in one hour by fire. Read it and weep, or rejoice, depending on the destination of your soul.
arlingtonian Reply:
January 12th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
where r u coming up with this stuff? on what do u base such conclusions? we are in agreement that the alleged flight 77 did NOT hit the building, BUT beyond that you are wrong sir. all the rest of tht stuff about a c130 firing a missile from WV and the low level flight over the lawn are wrong. i have personally spoken with over 2 dozen witnesses from the location in question and not one of them saw a missile. what they did see was a plane on a path that was completely contradictory to the “official path”. BUT there was NO MISSILE, so you are making shit up based on misinformation. i insist that you please go to thepentacon.com and see some of these interviews with actual witnesses, before u push anymore false info. trust me, you will be enlightened and better informed as a result, just check out the body of evidence and witness interviews cit has compiled, and you’ll see that there is no room for missile talk afterwards. i dont fault you, for i too was under the incorrect impression that it was a missile, but then i went and found verifiable evidence (via witnesses who have no reason to lie) that revealed what really happened.
http://thepentacon.com
go there or be forever uninformed and misled. the choice is yours.
Pam Reply:
January 12th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
It doesnt matter how many witnesses there are saying they saw a plane hit the pentagon i guarantee you they didnt see a plane hit the pentagon they could have seen a plane just before, but i guarantee you it was a mistle. So many people just dont want to believe the story and that our government is capable of such evil things, but they are. I notice that people who come on here or anywhere and talk about 911 not being an inside job, they never show reasons or proof why, but all of us do.
Forced Freedom Reply:
January 12th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
FINALLY someone understands the way the government REALLY works!
doooomcroaker,
very good! This is the way that the ones that have delved DEEP into their 9/11 research understand the nature of the events of that day and how the bastards in DC truly operate.
GOOD JOB!
January 12th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
More than one instance of the “missile” Freudian slip…
…on a day when no missiles were supposedly involved at all.
Honestly, how long are they going to keep this charade going?
Criminals run your society and all you have to do to dissolve their power is to stop using their money. The money is the control mechanism that keeps all of us economically enslaved. When we stop using the currency that they supply to us, the Federal Reserve will dissolve and the politicians they employ will be out of a job.
Don’t fight the system:
Replace it
http://socialviability.com/
January 12th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
How does a Boeing 757 with a 125′ wingspan disappear though a 16′ diameter initial impact hole in the Pentagon???
January 12th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
If recon marine wants to come invade my home I will blow his little fascist head off. I pray a patriotic iraqi will blow his head off as well.
come on dude Reply:
January 13th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Why would you say some sh$@ like that man, just because he has a different point of view than we do? grow up bro, I mean are you fu%$ing serious? You hope the guy gets killed in combat? shame on you man you make the truth movement look bad brother! So by your theory anyone who disagrees with you deserves to die? your an uneducated waste of space go find another cause to support because we don’t want you Turd Stain!
January 12th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Esactly! How in the hell did a 757 disappear into a 16ft diameter hole? If anything that is enough proof where everyone in America should be screaming and marching demanding complete and logical answers to their questions surrounding the 911 hoax gone wrong. I really do now understand how Goebbels and Hitler were able to pull the entire sheep over all German eyes!
January 12th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Well then if it wasnt a missle why dont they show us a video of the plane that hit it? The pentagon has a ton of video cams. there, but all they can show is a blurred out vision of white smoke? Where is the plane? Also how can a plane the size of the one that hit the pentagon only leave a hole about 16 feet wide? Where are the wings? The engines.? Why dont you do some research on the pentagon attack and how planes are made, and how it is virtually impossible for a jetliner to make those turns. Plus the fact that civillian planes are not allowed in that airspace. It had been over and hour into the so called terrorist attacks and i find it hard to believe they didnt know the plane was coming. The list goes on and on of why it is impossible that a plane could have hit the pentagon. If its that easy for a plane to hit the pentagon the most secure building in the world and our government didnt know about it then we should be terrified. There might as well not be any military people in the pentagon and it should be closed down if its that easy to bomb them. DO YOUR RESEARCH BUDDY BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH ABOUT STUFF YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVENT A CLUE ABOUT..!!
January 12th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
To Recon Marine:
Well then if it wasnt a missle why dont they show us a video of the plane that hit it? The pentagon has a ton of video cams. there, but all they can show is a blurred out vision of white smoke? Where is the plane? Also how can a plane the size of the one that hit the pentagon only leave a hole about 16 feet wide? Where are the wings? The engines.? Why dont you do some research on the pentagon attack and how planes are made, and how it is virtually impossible for a jetliner to make those turns. Plus the fact that civillian planes are not allowed in that airspace. It had been over and hour into the so called terrorist attacks and i find it hard to believe they didnt know the plane was coming. The list goes on and on of why it is impossible that a plane could have hit the pentagon. If its that easy for a plane to hit the pentagon the most secure building in the world and our government didnt know about it then we should be terrified. There might as well not be any military people in the pentagon and it should be closed down if its that easy to bomb them. DO YOUR RESEARCH BUDDY BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH ABOUT STUFF YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVENT A CLUE ABOUT..!!
January 12th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
“WE DEMAND A NEW CREDIBLE, INDEPENDENT, PROPERLY FUNDED INVESTIGATION !!!!!”
Is there any evidence left around?
“alligators in the suers?”
Um, I’m not generally a spelling/grammar nazi, but c’mon, couldn’t you at least get the correct homphone?
January 12th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Remember that there was a mysterious Gov. plane flying about overhead that morning. How hard is it really to rig a missile and firing mechanism onto a plane? Someone once told me that the Pentagon has an anti-aircraft missile array around the building. Can anyone confirm this? And if so, how hard is it to turn it on the Pentagon?
please respond Reply:
January 13th, 2009 at 8:37 am
trying to avoid biased truther sources it is very hard to find out whether or not it has anti-aircraft defense prior to 911. there are many many articles claiming it has them and many that say it doesen’t. let’s go back in time and throw stuff at it and see if anything happens.
January 12th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
That 9-11 was a false flag inside job has been established. The real question is: What are we going to do about it? Are we (have we) been dumbed down and apatheticized (new word-mine) to the point where we won’t do anything because the truth is too unreal, too painful. Bottom line, folks, it’s really just about the money (which doesn’t REALLY exist anyway) which is just about accounting, so… WHAT?
“Comments may take some time to appear…” Once they have been approved by Alex Jone’s thought police. Just sayin’…
January 12th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Sonambulists! (look it up)
Christian Reply:
January 13th, 2009 at 1:15 am
Sleepwalking
January 12th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Ok. Most of us agree on the fact that 911 was an inside job.
Most of us agree that G-W bush and friends are neocons (including the entire EU).
Most of us agree that there is a hidden agenda taking place around the globe.
Most of us agree that something must be done to stop this.
So please. Stop waisting time and energy on posting replies on these news.
Lets create some focalpoints that we all can agree on. Lets put religion and personal perception aside and start working together in a more organized fashion.
The forum on this site should be a good starting point but I think there’s a need for a more “object oriented” website.
Some place where you might get suggestions upon how to spread the information efficiently, how to secure your personal integrity in a time of extensive surveillence (perhaps even organizing people of great knowledge in programming to create shareware on this subject?), perhaps even organizing some sort of efficient mailing list for autosigning of letters to congressmen and politicians.
Any suggestions or guidelines on where I might turn to find this is very appreciated.
PEACE
January 12th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
I remember seeing this clip like a year and a half ago in September Clues
(not defending that disinfo, just stating a fact).
January 12th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Listen, neither you, myself nor any other COMMONER knows the ABSOLUTE truth of what really happened that day, All I know is that the things that were reported as truth, evidence or facts have greatly been diminished by the circumstantial facts that have surfaced later such as the IMMEDIATE confiscation of the video tapes from ALL surrounding businesses, the likely fact that a 767-200 would have a very hard time squeezing through a 16 foot hole in the pentagon and the lack of a debris field.
It is blatantly obvious to ANY NON-brainwashed human that the so called facts that are within the pages of the 9-11 OMISSION report are outright lies.
I have never been a jarhead but I have heard the Horror stories of their brainwashing techniques and I must ask you one question, “Do you like being controlled”?
Common sense is a terrible term for what it should be called, Common sense is essentially REALITY based and you seem to have a problem with this so I must say that you seem to suffer from an imbalance of reality and perception to reality in which I have coined a term for you and the masses like you, I call this “Perceptual Selective Non-compliance” Because you seem to want to refuse to allow REALITY to seep into your fragile mind and what they have filled your mind with is pointless rhetoric. ENJOY YOUR OWN PRIVATE WORLD……….WAKE FROM YOUR SHELL. HOOOAHHHHHH!
January 12th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
http://www.911missinglinks.com/
January 13th, 2009 at 12:31 am
man you gotta hand it to these guys, they pulled all this off and look now obama is gonna be in office in less then a week. obama is gonna be so worried about the economy that everything is gonna be over looked. shit everybody in topeka ks, yes kansas, i talk to anyone and they all think that its all osama still behind everything… “OHHH WAR ON TERROR”, “gaza what the hell you talking bout boy”, “israel oh ya there cool”……. WTF!!!! so ya they had this all planed and its now to the point that whatever plan you have is not gonna matter because there plans are on time and on schedual. i know that the feeling is all mutal around here well its time to start networking getting together. and making ron paul and aj proud. this county is gonna crumble in a matter of years and when that happens time to start acting. mind you the media will spin any dessent as being muslem extremist or some crazy doin a shoot up, not telling us there cause. cops are running rampent. military on our streets. and the people who know whats goin on cant get together then there is no effective way to survive…… NO JOKE hit me up Rabidshrew01 on aim to get ahold of me, near or around topeka KS then we gotta meet.. i want allies. and allies are all you need. BOOGADO OUT
January 13th, 2009 at 1:49 am
I posted the video on Youtube and I just wanted to get the Commssioner’s statements out there and on the record. I’m not sure what hit the Pentagon but there were multiple explosions which I feel is what ultimately made the roof collapse. Here’s a video documenting them,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12lOMgf760U
Interesting enough, the section where the plane (or missile) hit is where there was construction going on. Construction, explosions, coincidence?
January 13th, 2009 at 2:32 am
No No No this guy obviously just made a mistake haven’t your ever said one thing but was thinking something else. this is all blown out of proportion
January 13th, 2009 at 3:04 am
Architects and engineers have PROVED the world trade towers could only have collapsed because of massive amounts of EXPLOSIVES…The steel and concrete buildings are stronger than PYRAMIDS. You need to use TONNES OF demolition charges to destroy them. That’s why not a single such tower had ever collapsed before before 9/11, though America has countless such buildings.
Check out
http://www.ae911truth.org/
THESE EXPLOSIVES are what the Zionist Nazi media left out of the coverage. What we got in their edited versions were just the planes hitting the towers to create a spectacular propaganda picture and mobilise America for their wars.
We got captions like America under attack by terrorists rolling underneath CNN pictures within seconds!!!
THE BBC even reported the fall of the third of Tower, 20 minutes too soon, and the owner of the tower, yet another Zionist, collected the insurance, and even talked about the tower being pulled.
They get away with this on BLOOMBERGS patch.
January 13th, 2009 at 3:06 am
Boogado,
if everybody in topeka ks, yes kansas, thinks that its all osama still behind everything… “OHHH WAR ON TERROR”, “gaza what the hell you talking bout boy”, “israel oh ya there cool”…….
then they deserve to be fucked by the Zionist Talmust racist, who call goys half beasts while they take all the money out of their wallets.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:53 am
Sorry, ADL.
This argument you’re putting on the Wikipedia to defend the Talmud wouldn’t have worked to clear Hitler or the Nazis. David Irving could have rewritten your passage and put in the word Nazi for Jew - and you can see that it would not have cleared the Nazis?
The point is the tents calling for the extermination of Goys and Christians are there!!!! There are so many of them calling for goys and gentiles to be deceived, treated as half beasts!
They are not there in any other religion like Christianity, Hinduism and Buddism.
The seocnd point is, it’s the defenders of Israel who are calling Palestinians dogs, hornets and animals on these threads over and over obviously in accordance with the Talmud view that all goys are beast and half monkey. I haven’t come across a single non Jew myself calling Jews dogs or hornets on these threads.
That says a lot!
Many of the Zionists and Jews on these threads are also openly calling for their extermination of the Palestinains, and the extermination of goys is a tenet in the Talmud, so to make out that these tenets have no bearing on today is ridiculous. In fact, 95 per cent of all the postings defending Israel have a Talmud tpuch. And there’ve been plenty of racist, master race, Anti Christian, Anti Palestinian remarks, too.
Christ has been called the Anti Christ, Christians “weak and lazy” (a typical quality of a goy it seems!).
Sarah was even calling for a concentration camp in Gaza to finish off all Palestinians.
The similarity of the Talmud and the Nazi doctrine is so frightening because of what the Nazis did and what Israel is doing in Gaza now.
Rahm Emmanual’s father even said openly in a press satement that Arabs are just fit to clean floors in a remark so we know this atttitude that goys are just half beasts created by God to serve the Jewish master race goes right up the chain.
The lid has come off and we can see clearly now that the Talmud really is what manyJews belive from what they say and do. I haven’t come across a single Jew on these threads who has quoted Moses. They all selectively quote Psalm 91 from David, which is very much in harmony with the Talmud tenets that Jews are the master race.
Also, we know from the Talmud tenets themselves that to hide your hatred of Goys is necessary.
So when the ADL puts these kinds of explanations up, we can take it with the usual pinch of salt because they are coming from an organisation that is Jewish and accepts the Talmud and its tenets.
What’s the point of consulting a Jewish authority as you suggest if the Jewish authority has a sacred book where it says openly over and over that you must hide your hatred from the goys and gentiles???? And that to deceive them is permissable and necessary??? What’s the point????
Renounce those tenets. Then we can consult a Jewish authority - not before!!!!
The very fact these tenets are still in the Talmud says everything - they are in no other central religious text. They are also not merely expansion or additions of a theological point.
They are the diametrical opposite of the beliefs of Moses. So why have the Jews not renounced the Talmud and taken on Moses altogether? Why have two books that say the exact opposite, at all, if you only believe one and not other? If the Talmud tenets are so marginal, why are they still there when they are directly opposed to Moses.
If these Talmud were the tenets of a cult, that cult would have been banned in the US, wouldn’t it? as Satanic because it openly calls for the extermination of all non members of the cult. The Nazis are compared to a Satanic cult and it had these Talmud tenets (and where from, we have to ask?) Rumours of the Zionist backing for Hitler cannot be discounted in view of the incredible parallel.
Also, this issue of religious beliefs and values is vital becaue so many top US ogvernment politicans are dual Israeli-American nationals who are practicing Jews. It turns out that we don’t really know what they think and will never find out because they espouse a religion with tenets saying to deceive the goys and gentiles is permissable and necessary.
Why keep that tenet at all if you don’t believe it? Especially as it contradicts Moses.
Here is the ADL passage as it might have been written by a Nazi apologist followed by the original and the Talmud passages that we are suppose to believe are marginal - but not marginal enough to remove from the book!!!!
If the ADL has said, the Talmud passages are not in the book at all, I would have been reassured. Nothing less will resassure anyone now.
“By selectively citing various passages from the Nazi doctrines, polemicists have sought to demonstrate that Nazis espouses hatred for sub races (and specifically for Jews), and promotes obscenity, sexual perversion, and other immoral behavior. To make these passages serve their purposes, these polemicists frequently mistranslate them or cite them out of context (wholesale fabrication of passages is not unknown)…
In distorting the normative meanings of Nazi texts, anti-Nazi writers frequently remove passages from their textual and historical contexts. Even when they present their citations accurately, they judge the passages based on contemporary moral standards, ignoring the fact that the majority of these passages were composed close to two thousand years ago by people living in cultures radically different from our own. They are thus able to ignore Nazi’s long history of social progress and paint it instead as a primitive and parochial religion.
Those who attack the Nazis frequently cite ancient occult sources without noting subsequent developments in Jewish thought, and without making a good-faith effort to consult with contemporary Nazi authorities who can explain the role of these sources in normative Nazi thought and practice.”
Here is the original ADL passage.
By selectively citing various passages from the Talmud and Midrash, polemicists have sought to demonstrate that Judaism espouses hatred for non-Jews (and specifically for Christians), and promotes obscenity, sexual perversion, and other immoral behavior. To make these passages serve their purposes, these polemicists frequently mistranslate them or cite them out of context (wholesale fabrication of passages is not unknown)…
In distorting the normative meanings of rabbinic texts, anti-Talmud writers frequently remove passages from their textual and historical contexts. Even when they present their citations accurately, they judge the passages based on contemporary moral standards, ignoring the fact that the majority of these passages were composed close to two thousand years ago by people living in cultures radically different from our own. They are thus able to ignore Judaism’s long history of social progress and paint it instead as a primitive and parochial religion.
Those who attack the Talmud frequently cite ancient rabbinic sources without noting subsequent developments in Jewish thought, and without making a good-faith effort to consult with contemporary Jewish authorities who can explain the role of these sources in normative Jewish thought and practice.
“A Jew must not associate himself with gentiles.” - Hilkoth Maakhaloth, Ch. IX.
“The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts.” - Saba Mecia, 114, 6.
“Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night.” - Midrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L.
“It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces.” -Schuichan Qruch, Choszen Hajpiszpat jog
“Thou shalt not do injury to thy neighbor (Bible), but it is not said, ‘Thou shalt not do injury to a Goy.’ ” - Mishna Sanhedryn 57.
“All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples. An orthodox Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards people of other tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable to himself or to Jews in general.” - Schalchan arach. Choszen Hasisxpat 348.
“The Jew is not permitted to consider the goyim as human beings.” - Schulchan Oruch, Orach Chaiw 14, 20, 32, 33, 39. TaIDud Jebamoth 61.
“To communicate anything to a goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the goyim knew what we teach about them they would kill us openly.” - Libbre David 37.
“Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human.” - Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b
“If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog.” - Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b
“It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah.” - Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5
(Jesus Christ was) illegitimate and conceived during menstruation. Mother a Prostitute. - Kallah 1b. (18b)
Christian birth rate must be diminished materially. - Zohar (II 64b):
Jews must always try to deceive Christians. - Zohar (1 160a)
Jews are not to prevent the death of a Christian. - Choschen Ham (425 5):
Do not save Christians in danger of death, instructed to let die. - Hilkkoth Akum (x,1):
Even the best of the Goim [Christians] should be killed. - Abhodah Zarah (25b)T
If Jew kills a Christian he commits no sin. - Sepher Or Israel 177b
Extermination of Christians necessary. - Zohar (11 43a):
Make no agreements and show no mercy to Christians. - Hilkhoth Akum (x,1):
Christians are idolaters. - Hilkhoth Maakhaloth
Christians have intercourse with animals. - Abhodah Zarah (22a):
Female Jews contaminated when meeting Christians. - Iore Dea (198, 48):
Innocent of murder if intent was to kill a Christian. - Makkoth (7b)
Christians likened to cows and asses. - Zohar II (64b):
Psalmist compares Christians to beasts. - Kethuboth (110b):
Sexual intercourse with Christian same as intercourse with beast. - Sanhedrin (74b)
The seed [children] of Christians valued same as the seed of a beast. - Kethuboth (3b):
Those Jews who do good to Christians never rise when dead. - Zohar (1, 25b)
Jews are to hide their hatred for Christians. - Iore Dea (148, 12H):
Christian property belongs to the first Jew claiming it. - Babha Bathra (54b):
Keep any overpayment Christians make in error. - Choschen Ham (193, 7):
It is permitted for a Jew to deceive Christians. - Babha Kama (113b):
Jew may deceive Christians. - Iore Dea (157, 2) H:
Jew may lie and perjure himself to condemn a Christian. - Babha Kama (113a):
The name of God is not profaned when a Jew lies to Christians. - Babha Kama (113b):
Jew may perjure himself when lying about Christians. - Kallah (1b, p. 18):
Jews may swear falsely by the use of subterfuge wording. - Schabbouth Hag (6d):
Jews must always try to deceive Christians. - Zohar (1, 160a):
Christians who are not Jews’ enemies must also die. - Iore Dea (158, 1):
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1. “An Aryan must not associate himself with Jews.” - Hilkoth Maakhaloth, Ch. IX.
2. “The Aryans are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts.” - Saba Mecia, 114, 6.
3. “Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night.” - Midrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L.
4. “It is permitted to kill An Aryanish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces.” -Schuichan Qruch, Choszen Hajpiszpat jog
5. “Thou shalt not do injury to thy neighbor (Bible), but it is not said, ‘Thou shalt not do injury to a Goy.’ ” - Mishna Sanhedryn 57.
6. “All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples. An orthodox Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards people of other tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable to himself or to Aryans in general.” - Schalchan arach. Choszen Hasisxpat 348.
7. “The Jew is not permitted to consider the goyim as human beings.” - Schulchan Oruch, Orach Chaiw 14, 20, 32, 33, 39. TaIDud Jebamoth 61.
8. “To communicate anything to a goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Aryans, for if the goyim knew what we teach about them they would kill us openly.” - Libbre David 37.
9. “Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human.” - Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b
10. “If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog.” - Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b
11. “It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Jews belong to the denying ones of the Torah.” - Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5
12. (Jesus Christ was) illegitimate and conceived during menstruation. Mother a Prostitute. - Kallah 1b. (18b)
13. Jewish birth rate must be diminished materially. - Zohar (II 64b):
14. Aryans must always try to deceive Jews. - Zohar (1 160a)
15. Aryans are not to prevent the death of a Jew. - Choschen Ham (425 5):
16. Do not save Jews in danger of death, instructed to let die. - Hilkkoth Akum (x,1):
17. Even the best of the [Jews] should be killed. - Abhodah Zarah (25b)T
18. If Jew kills a Christian he commits no sin. - Sepher Or Israel 177b
19. Extermination of Jews necessary. - Zohar (11 43a):
20. Make no agreements and show no mercy to Jews. - Hilkhoth Akum (x,1):
21. Jews are idolaters. - Hilkhoth Maakhaloth
22. Jews have intercourse with animals. - Abhodah Zarah (22a):
23. Female Aryans contaminated when meeting Jews. - Iore Dea (198, 48):
24. Innocent of murder if intent was to kill a Jew. - Makkoth (7b)
25. Jews likened to cows and asses. - Zohar II (64b):
26. Psalmist compares Jews to beasts. - Kethuboth (110b):
27. Sexual intercourse with Christian same as intercourse with beast. - Sanhedrin (74b)
28. The seed [children] of Jews valued same as the seed of a beast. - Kethuboth (3b):
29. Those Aryans who do good to Jews never rise when dead. - Zohar (1, 25b)
30. Aryans are to hide their hatred for Jews. - Iore Dea (148, 12H):
31. Jewish property belongs to the first Aryan claiming it. - Babha Bathra (54b):
32. Keep any overpayment Jews make in error. - Choschen Ham (193, 7):
33. It is permitted for An Aryan to deceive Jews. - Babha Kama (113b):
34. Aryan may deceive Jews. - Iore Dea (157, 2) H:
35. Aryan may lie and perjure himself to condemn a Jew. - Babha Kama (113a):
36. The name of God is not profaned when An Aryan lies to Jews. - Babha Kama (113b):
37. Aryan may perjure himself when lying about Jews. - Kallah (1b, p. 18):
38. Aryans may swear falsely by the use of subterfuge wording. - Schabbouth Hag (6d):
39. Aryans must always try to deceive Jews. - Zohar (1, 160a):
40. Jews who are not Aryans’ enemies must also die. - Iore Dea (158, 1):
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Providence Divine Reply:
January 13th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Remember this is from Talmud not Torah… Talmud is not divinely inspired as the Jews had been cast out of their land for insolence unto God and for the murder of Mashiach. But remember Christians, God hardened their hearts so that they should not receive him and where cut them off to graft us(gentile nations) in, they will however be grafted back in at the end of the hour of Jacobs trouble which shall soon descend upon the state of Israel. Pray for the true Israel and for her peace, because he who curses Israel (the true Israel which is a people not a state) is cursed, but he who blesses them is blessed.
January 13th, 2009 at 5:14 am
If it was a missle , then , WERE ARE THOSE PEOPLE AND THE PLANE? WHERE WHERE?
Are they on an island playing golf , dead , area 51?
Theywontchipme Reply:
January 13th, 2009 at 6:19 am
I choose #2
January 13th, 2009 at 5:20 am
You bunch of TIN FOIL HATS nutts!
Theywontchipme Reply:
January 13th, 2009 at 6:19 am
go away troll
January 13th, 2009 at 6:18 am
No coverup nothing to see hear. Go back to sleep america. Your government is in control. They will protect you.
January 13th, 2009 at 6:52 am
Did anyone else catch on Bush’s last speech where he mentioned the “Elite” and how they thought we sucked? Did you also catch where he said that responsibility for whether or not the democracy continues was the future presidents’?
January 13th, 2009 at 7:28 am
It doesn’t matter if he thinks it was a giant inter galatical twinkie. It wasn’t a commercial jet liner and they knew it was coming and stood down.
January 13th, 2009 at 7:51 am
THAT IS THE ONE THING YOU NEVER HEAR THEM SAY……………..WHERE ARE THE BODIES FROM PA AND FROM DC. YOU NEVER HEAR THEM SAY ONE WORD B/C THEY CAN’T DEFEND IT B/C THEIR ARE VERY FEW BODIES. WHO KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED TO THESE PEOPLE.
WHEN HAS THERE BEEN PLANE CRASHES AND NO BODIES OR MAJORITY OF BODIES JUST TO DISSIPATE.
WHY DO YOU THINK THEY KEEP SLIPPING UP, IT IS HARD TO LIVE WITH KNOWING WHAT HAPPENDED AND NOT SLIP UP EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY STOP BUSH FROM TALKING SO MUCH AFTER 911. HMMMMMMMMMMMMM HE SAID HE SAW THE FIRST PLANE HIT THE BUILDING………..WOW, HOW DID U SEE THAT BUSH UNLESS YOU WERE THERE IN NYC IN LOWER MANHATTAN OR SOMEONE WAS FILMING IT LIKE THOSE MOSSAD AGENTS IN jERSEY DANCING AROUND
January 13th, 2009 at 8:09 am
You’re brainwashed.
I suggest you take a good long look at a 767: notice how large each section of the plane is…the fuselage, tail section, wings, engines. Then, realize what inside of it: people, luggage, seats, miles and miles of wires, and all kinds of equipment.
Then take another look at the Pentagon photos just after the plane “crashed.” If you can point to any of the stuff I just mentioned…ANY OF IT, I will except that I fucking retarded.
I’ll be waiting.
However, if you can’t do it, I accept your apology.
January 13th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Curiously this article does not mention just where this video “surfaced” from or who found it or posted it so it could make its “rounds.” Does anyone know who found it or posted it and how they obtained it?
January 13th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Missle, Plane , whatever hit it….It should have never hit the pentagon. Isn’t this the most secure airspace in the world??? The Pentagon is in a NO FLY ZONE anything that comes within a certain proximity is shot down UNLESS it is identifyed by a military beacon. Regardless what hit it…even if it was the plane…it had to be an inside job just because this simple fact.
January 13th, 2009 at 9:05 am
You anti-semites need to go to FEMA camps for tolerance training. Maybe Alex can loose that spare tire in there as well? Just a thought.
Shalom
God bless Israel!!!!
Providence Divine Reply:
January 13th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
…Hey you said “God”! Isn’t that supposed to be G-d, blessed be he? Are you really Jewish are are you just trying to make people hate Jews? Imposter…? Methinks you are really a Nazi Skinhead…
January 13th, 2009 at 9:11 am
I hope you terrorists are put in the back of the FEMA train all the way to the most filthy place in the camp. The IDF soldiers and Mossad interrogators will beat the 911 truth out of you!
Shalom!
G-d bless Israel!!!!
Providence Divine Reply:
January 13th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Nice hate mongering… Your right we shouldn’t ask questions… That’s the American way, just believe what your told and don’t question the authority’s. Who’s the terrorist? Yeah the IDF and Mossad will beat us like they beat there own people the Rabbis and other Jews against Zionism. Because that’s the answer, violence… Again I ask who are the terrorists? Up is down and evil is good. Is it any wonder that the Israelis murdered and imprisoned the prophets sent to them by God in Torah? They are doing the same thing today… God bless the lovers of truth, Jews and Gentiles, Israelis and those of other nations. And when judgment comes upon the nations, the truth will come out much to the chagrin of them that despise the truth.
January 13th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Those who pulled off 9/11 were not idiots. But those who defend them are.
The electronically hijacked airliners were flown out over the Atlantic, under the remote control of a special, high flying military aircraft, and then straight down, wide open, into the ocean. Yes, Virginia, we have had that capability for decades, to take over control of a fly-by-wire commercial airliner from a highly sophisticated, electronically packed military aircraft. The aircraft that hit the twin towers were replicas, also remotely piloted by the same aircraft that sent the airliners loaded with passengers to their dooms, specially prepared at a secret base in Arizona.
Most, if not all, of the sulfur boosted thermite that brought down the twin towers was placed there following the first attack on the buildings months earlier. That minimal attack in the basement simply provided cover for personnel climbing up the support beams of the Twin Towers to position the high explosives.
Even a retarded grape could quickly determine that the highly complex 9/11 operation was not carried out by a handful of super morons who couldn’t even fly a Cessna 150, much less a Boeing 757, under the direction of a mad man in a cave half a world away.
So, on the face of it, those who defend the US government version of 9/11 are part and parcel to that Nazi madness. Many are paid to ridicule and spread disinformation. We see some of them here. That too is part of the 9/11 strategy. What they will find out the hard way in the end is that they were “useful idiots,” as fascists have called such trolls for centuries. Just as those in the media who ridicule 9/11 Truthers will learn that they are always the first to the wall when the fit hits the shan —when the Nazis move to consolidate their power and create a dictatorship. Fascist trolls and media boot lickers have traditionally had even less longevity than those in possession of truth.
In the end….coming soon…..it won’t matter much which camp you are in. Putin’s nukes will be no respector of persons with different viewpoints. Notice he and his generals have stopped issuing warnings to the White House. Their military, especially their stragetic forces, are on full alert. That, like a dog about to bite, is a very bad sign. One move by Israel or the US to nuke Iran and the US will suddenly come alive like a giant fireworks display. Count on it.
In the meantime look to your soul and to the souls of your loved ones. Time is growing short. Ignore the idiots who ridicule you for believing our government was behind 9/11 while, at the same time, proudly proclaiming that there is no God and that all creation came from a big explosion. Yes, the two idiot forms come in the same package. We see them here. And they will shortly get their big explosion — a real one this time — followed by a long overdue world class education. Count on it.
In the end justice will prevail because good and God are bigger than evil and Satan. Count on it.
January 13th, 2009 at 11:11 am
“Video surfaces”…….. ?????????
yeah and in other news the Berlin wall is down..!
If ‘Team AJ’ had even bothered to watch September Clues, the video they lambast readily as ‘disinfo’ (sigh) , then they would already know about the Tim Roemer slip.
Just goes to show that condemnation without investigation is indeed the height of ignorance.
Well done Steve Watson, a man with his finger firmly on the pulse… [/rollseyes]
January 13th, 2009 at 11:11 am
No commercial airliner could clip a light post and not immediately crash into the ground. Where’s the piece of the wing that would have sheared off after it hit the light posts? Anyone that knows anything about airline crashes and the NTSB investigation procedures that should have followed are well aware that the official story is BS.
Disinfo agents can say anything they like on the internet. But it won’t be long that government shills like reconmarine will get their asses handed to them on the street if they start spewing that garbage. Half the people on my street have INFOWARS.COM bumper stickers on their vehicles. Hope you get payed well little boot-licker.
January 13th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
95% of the airliner that hit the Pentagon was found?… Black box? Wings? Landing gear? Titanium engines? Where? Please provide evidence… Why did they hit the only wing of the pentagon that was being remodeled? Just coincidence? Why haven’t they released the video footage from not only the pentagon (not just a few snap shots that don’t even show a plane) but from the myriad other cameras from the various surrounding buildings that had been confiscated by federal agents just after the attack? If you have evidence of what you claim please provide it…
January 13th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
retardmarine is talking out of his ass.
there is no record of this 95% of the airliner.
the official story staes that most of the aircraft was vaprized. So how could they possibly have recovered 95% of anything.
And there is documented credible evedence of thermite explosive residue in the debris of
the twin towers. I should’nt even have to put the link in for that one.
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January 13th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Yes I know these FACTS, but some people(like Reconmarine) claim they have evidence to the contrary. I’m willing to look at the evidence if they supply it. I know they wont because they cant because there is none, however i am an open minded critical thinker who desires all perspectives in order to discern the truth for myself, so if he or she has evidence as he or she claims i would like to see it. To be honest, I witnessed the second plane hit live and knew in my heart when the buildings collapsed that they were demolished (controlled demolitions). The truth of these matters is readily self evident without having to investigate, however the sleeping masses require this investigation though most pass it off without heed.
January 13th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Not strong evidence in my opinion. We have hard evidence such at the exit hole through ring three of the Pentagon and the four frames of video from the gas station security cam - where there simply IS NO PLANE. So who needs “slips of the tongue” to prove the case??
January 13th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
New York’s own fire and police department have witnesses to the bombs in the twin towers.
If they are not credible witnesses than who are?
January 13th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Jason BUMis an israeli pig. Your nation is genocidal mania.
You are scum sir.
You and your whole nation of bigotry.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Shalom on my schlong you Nazi Gangster Jew!!!
January 13th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
The people who were on the plane were all still alive and are now mind controlled slaves of our secret government. They were given new identities and jobs within the underground bases. We will never see them above ground.
Those who did not take the brainwashing or “reprogramming” well were exterminated.
Don’t even ask how I know this.
January 14th, 2009 at 6:37 am
All this conspiracy crap reminds me of those who were convinced that Elvis was still alive , hiding somewhere for years.Only difference is that this line of thinking is very dangerous.What about all those who lost their lives on these planes? All part of a conspiracy? What a load of CRAP.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
He also calls the Pentagon a “fortress”. I thought it was just a really strongly built building. But not it was a fortress. Who knew?
January 15th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
The media is 100% guilty in covering up the crimes of 911. Check out http://www.subvertednation.com to find the real criminals responsible. It wasn’t the CIA and Bush, it was a group of subversives that have been working behind the scenes for 4000 years, and now they’re playing their final plans on you. They fear exposure more than they fear armed rebellion..