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We Can Still Stop Government Takeover Of Health Care
Kurt Nimmo
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, December 24, 2009
RELATED: Senate Passes Healthcare Reform But Negotiations With House Will Be Tough
Democrats in the Senate have rammed through their totalitarian Obamacare at gunpoint bill. But there is much work to be done before they can foist this monster on the American people. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid need to reconcile the different House and Senate versions. This is usually done through conference committees, but the process will be modified for the precious Obamacare legislation.
“Conferences involving members from both houses are messy things,” writes John Fund for The Wall Street Journal. “They are usually conducted in public and often televised, and can produce a compromise version of the bill that leaves rank-and-file members tempted to vote against the final version. That could be perilous in the case of health care since it’s likely to pass without a vote to spare in the Senate and the House’s version passed by only five votes.”
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
Since overwhelming the Senate in 2007, Democrats have increasingly turned to dictatorial tactics to get bills through the conference process. Legislation on lobbying reform and the 2007 energy bill were slipped through without appointing committees.
“We have to defer to the bigger picture,” explained Rep. Henry Waxman of California.
Reid and Pelosi are mindful of the “bigger picture” and want to make sure public scrutiny and discussion of Obamacare are avoided at all cost. The final bill will be crafted behind closed doors where heads will be bashed and arms twisted.
This is how the Soviet system worked. Top party leadership acted as political brokers and ensured that the Supreme Soviet adhered to party decisions. The Democrats under Pelosi and Reid have formed an American version of the Central Executive Committee and the Supreme Soviet which exercises exclusively all legislative power.
We are now witnessing what Lenin called “totalitarian democracy” at work in America.
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December 24th, 2009 at 11:05 am
the govt just needs another layer of ponzi to paper over all of the losses in the failed social security act of 1933.
ReturnFire Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
BREAKING NEWS!
Arrow Trucking Abruptly Shuts Down Leaving 1,400 Unemployed and Many STRANDED!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk4r7Er-XKc
Many links in ‘more info’.
Another Alien Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
That trucker story is really sad. Damn. I have been trying to get work for months now to no avail thus far. I really pray for this country and the entire world. This tyranny needs to end.
ACA Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
It mite be the last one so mery xmes to all and to all a good night.
wildcat Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 8:52 am
That is terrible especially at Christmas. We had an airline go into liquidation (FlyGlobeSpan), and a Christmas hamper company (Farepak) that went bankrupt.
Quantummonkeybutt Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Unfortunately, The Best Gift I Got This Year Was From Alex Jones…
It Is A Movie Called, “Fall Of The Republic”, And It Describes A Very Sad America Of The Future…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU
(”FALL OF THE REPUBLIC” – FULL HQ)
The Truth Hurts…But Not As Much As Being Fu&%ed In The A$$ By The ‘New World Order’ Puppet Whores That We All Put Our Trust In…
QMB
SHUT DOWN
D.C. NOW!!!!!
zarathustra Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
BLACK OPERATIONS ALERT
On April 22, 2009, Ross Perot was made a Honorary Green Beret at the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center in Fayetteville, North Carolina.
kj Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Yeah right we can stop the health care scam.
Beavis Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Anmsoc…
Brian Hill Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 4:53 am
yeah I know I mentioned this article url somewhere on this site b4 but I want you all to see another horrid scenario you can show the obama puppets like if they are disabled and love going to buffets show them that health care rationing under Obamas plan will ruin their rights to goto the buffet.
http://uswgo.com/obamas-health.....e-buffets/
zarathustra Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
It could be that if this war is a Keynesian economic pretense to spend money to prevent the economic pyramid from collapsing, and if they want to end the war, then they need another pretense to spend money to pump the economy. Health care spending may provide them with this broad based universal pretense to spend money to pump the economy.
December 24th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Just reading the details, if the insurance companies deny you because of pre-existing stuff or for any reason they want, then the govt will tax you 2% of your income becuase of something you have no control over.
Richard Finlay Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Obama is trying to stop insurance companies from screwing people because of their pre-existing conditions.
Plague of Smiles Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Insurance companies are not “screwing people.” Insurance companies are a business that provides a service to PAYING CUSTOMERS who qualify. I have acromegaly… a pre-existing condition. For this reason I cannot insurance immediately when I get a new job, but I have to wait 18 months. People are not getting “screwed.” They are being treated fairly by capitalism. The alternative to capitalism is communism. Under communism the government decides what conditions will be treated and the level of care. In a communist system my condition would probably not be treated at all since it is a rare disorder. In a communist system your level of care is going to be watered down until it is practically useless and will discourage innovation. There is NO RIGHT to healthcare. You have NO RIGHT to demand healthcare. If you cannot pay you deserve nothing. If you make bad choices in life you do not deserve to be rewarded healthcare at the expense of another person. This bill is nothing but communism, government run healthcare. In a capitalist system I have to wait 18 months or scrape up enough funds to pay for my rare condition myself. Under communism, rare disorders such as mine are cut out completely in order to provide watered down luke-warm care to useless eaters who provide nothing to society and expect a hand out. That is the very definition of EVIL, to reward those who contribute nothing back.
MsCharlyCorday Reply:
December 26th, 2009 at 1:48 am
Interesting, wasn’t ‘eighteen months’ that amount of time a patient supposedly would wait for “Obamacare” according to a previous article? I wikied Acromegaly and found out it “most commonly affects adults in middle age, and can result in severe disfigurement, serious complicating conditions, and premature death if unchecked. Acromegaly is often also associated with gigantism.” You are a sick man, so I guess we can excuse your use of the phrase ‘useless eaters’, last time widely used by the real nazis under Hitler.
romulus Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Wow…….I guess taking a dump will become a profit margin for them one day too?
December 24th, 2009 at 11:11 am
this is just another layer of ponzi to paper over the losses in the social security act of 1933
December 24th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Iwas having a good day until this. I will now have to take all the Christmas gifts back and exchange them for the money.
I will need $15,000.00 for the new Insurance Policy the Government is going to force me to purchase for myself and others. Sorry retailers, this is going to hit you folks the hardest in the long run. I wonder how China is going to react when Wallmart sales drop and they can’t sell their trash to the mindless American Consumers?
Better yet, I wonder if China will be getting any kind of “kick back” from all this theft of the American People? After all, they own our ass and we will never be able to pay off the debt, or will we?
romulus Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
If you could convince everyone to do the same thing, take back your purchases and exchange for cash that is, then, your patriots would have, what those in business/political circles, would call, LEVERAGE!
If you STARVE the government of the taxes that are associated with store purchases, you can eventually control its appetite and insistance on eating better than you do.
Seriously, think about it. If every christmas gift that every constitutional patriot bought this season was returned and cash their redeemed, how much money would Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi be scratching around for to cover the debt incurred by this new health care system this coming fiscal year?
Now, think bigger, and think about how much money you can starve them of, if you scrutinise your habitual daily purchases too….ie…..BUY AMERICAN ONLY……NO INPORT TAX to the government, no American Dollars going to whoop whoop!.
The way you made your comment……it seems as if you think YOU were crazy for thinking it (the way you felt when you wrote it I mean)……..but mate, you’re about the cleverest one here thats commented so far ( that I’ve read so far at least)…….Pick your chin up, and your flag, and work with it!
Romulus
XGI Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 12:08 am
No, I’m serious about this!
You made my point a little louder and better to understand. I returned some gifts today, and will return the rest on Monday. Our family is in agreement and we will celebrate Christmas with each other and refuse to get connected with the hype of the holiday.
I already do my part in buying American, too bad I can’t buy much. the only thing I can find that’s made in America anymore is Whiskey, Condoms, and Copenhagen. Everything else comes from China or Mexico
night_caper Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Dude, it’s even worse than that … I’m in Canada, so I try to buy “North American” … you would think, well I can buy stuff made in the USA or Canada, buzzzz … wrong! Went to try and buy appliances NOT made in China, impossible … even most of the high end stuff, all China. Tried to buy a hand blender, impossible … all China (3 different stores). Ticks me off to no end … my 2001 dodge was even made in Mexico. It’s all about destroying the middle class, and most people don’t even realize it … don’t even mention the Communist China thing, but it’s all about multi-national greed, and then don’t even get me started on the pollution all those shipping boats are causing!
MsCharlyCorday Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 11:00 am
“Whiskey, Condoms, and Copenhagen”, what else do you need?!
December 24th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I was having a good day until this. I will now have to take all the Christmas Gifts back and start saving up for the $15,000.00 I will need for health care for myself and others.
Sorry Retailers, this is going to kick you folks right in the teeth in the long run. Don’t expect sales to increase anytime soon. You will be lucky to be here this time next year. I wonder how China will react when they realize their trash is no longer selling at Wallmart because Americans no longer can afford it. I also wonder if China will be getting any “Kick Backs” from all the money this new Health Care Bill will generate? After all, they own our Ass and we can never repay them, or can we?
December 24th, 2009 at 11:45 am
ho ho ho thats us a bunch ho’s getting slapped around by our pimps
December 24th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
It seems like they’re begging to be hung.
will Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
The public option—-a tree or formal gallows?
December 24th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
People keep talking about this as a “health care bill” but it is really a TAX INCREASE.
They ALWAYS sell the sizzle, and you don’t get any steak with that. You just get the sizzle.
Oh and you get the bill too.
Enjoy!
December 24th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
That asshole of a prick Chris Dodd is a goddamned liar. These dirtbags need to have their faces kicked into the filthy gutter where they belong.
December 24th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
JUST IMAGINE THAT ONE HOUSE BOY COMMUNITY ORGANIZER FROM THE CHICAGO SLUMS CAN F–K UP THE ENTIRE WORLD ECONOMY ALONG WITH A LITTLE PUPPETERING FROM THE BILDERBERG TRASH.
December 24th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
A plague on both your houses.
December 24th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
That’s why,pelosi and reid need to be cleaned away. if you know what I mean.
Lee Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
“For real.”
December 24th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
put em in acid
December 24th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
These photos on this article are revealing the crack in the facade. Obama looks old, tired, and worn thin.
GeorgiaAnn Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 11:05 am
I disagree. To me he looks like he’s on drugs…
December 24th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Alex? Alex Bones; king of thre last frontier! Where art thou lad? when your country calls! no more muff diving Alex, you’ve got to take care of business son; big time!
December 24th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Lock and load is all they will ever understand. They couldn;t do that in Russia when the weapons were gone, that won;t happen here.
Mark Koernke – seek him!
December 24th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
These traitors will be swept from the face of the earth soon.
December 24th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
It is literally baffling how, year after year, texts which are obviously detrimental to the power, liberties, sovereignty and wealth of the people, pass House and Senate, all done legally.
If only a 1/3 of the USA knew what the laws were about, nothing of that s--- would happen.
December 24th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
I hope you are right that we can stop this…
And I agree, decade after decade our most precious Constitution has been shaped to enslave the people… Our Constitution was NOT designed for Leader saviors!!!
Not a day goes by that I do not wish that we would have elected Dr. Paul. He would have been historic in the fact that THE PEOPLE would now be shaping and restoring our Republic, RIGHT NOW… instead of sleeping in their cars, and living in shelters.
Bob Brown Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
How long is going to take the American people to learn that we have been living in a police state? We have been living in a police state since July 2007; if not earlier. Who is going to stop Congress from violating the Constitution and the Bill of Rights when they were suspended on July 2007?
Congress ignored the protesters and kept pouring more money into Iraq when the American people were against Bush’s War. The American people don’t want our troops to be sent to Afghanistan, and this too will not stop Congress from perpetuating this war.
Americans have always taken their freedom for granted. Why? Because “I don’t like politics,” or “Congress will do what they want to do no matter what I want,” or “my one vote will not change anything.” How many Americans were taught history in high school?” Many Americans said they do not like American history because it is boring.” Now America will pay a heavy price for these errors. Why shouldn’t the Congress steal taxpayer’s money? They knew that Americans didn’t have the guts to fight back. So the Congress kept stealing.
How can anyone defend the Constitution when they have never read it? The same holds true with the Bill of Rights. Anyone can be arrested for being a terrorist. Why? Because George Bush identified the American people as enemy combatants.
December 24th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
>correction: that I wish…
December 24th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
The “bigger picture” has the ugly mug of Karl Marx peeking out of it.
Ken
http://www.LaserGuidedLoogie.com
December 24th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Hey read thru these comments–if Ron Paul was elected he would have an accident if he tried to impliment real changes. Health Care–f--- them, Im not buying it, couldnt if I wanted it. American History in High School–its a lie, its propaganda, & its boreing. I used to drive for Werner & hate to hear about the Drivers with Arrow–truckers are a decent bunch of people. I really want to revoke my U.S. Citizenship & become an American National. Have a merry X-Mas!!
December 24th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
We must turn it around… Our Constitution is the only document that was not “fake”… It lived through greater tribulations for 234 years… It shall live longer with a sense of community, and holding onto its principals. We need to Synchronize together in spite of our faults; it to save the Nation…
Merry Christmas to all…
http://www.responsibilityproje.....ighthouse/
December 24th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
From here they load the pork into the bill, for which everyone has been asking…..from each house.
No compromise by way of cutting. Everyone get what they want, and the messy thing passes. This is how these things work.
sg
booger Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
this is how its broken, not how it works!!
December 24th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
I have a few ideas.
They all require funding though.
Money and jobs, at this time, are hard come by. But, I’m sure if you looked hard enough, you could find a few “out of work” or “semi-retired” doctors in the surrounding neighbourhoods and communities (who have a christian spirit about them, of course). You could work with them, to set up a subsidised and charitable “house call” service, organised “by the people” and “for the people”, which possibly might be a better option to outlaying billions of dollars via this new health care system,in new facilities and mis-diagnosis’……..which would be my next solution. Spending money to build a new system of your own.
Short of raising your own funds (like the Jehova’s witnesses do) and building your own community halls/health check facilities, though, there really is not much you can do, except pray!
Although…….there is possibly, another way!
All you young people out there ( or even you older and more intelligent individuals – say, iq 130-)who want to do something to help…….FLOOD THE WORKFORCE WITH MEDICAL STUDENTS! That way, health care costs will have to fall, due to the supply/demand for doctors being swung in the other direction.ie, more doctors than patients!
Thats the cheapest way ,that I can see, to solve the problem, considering the Government would most likely PAY people to study for a medical degree…..to some extent anyway ( student loans etc etc)!
At the moment, the picture is that there are more patients than doctors ( which is a win for the global elite)……yet doctors are still out of work and paying back student loans washing dishes.
Surely, with what I have just said, some intelligent individual will see that there is definately more than one way to skin a congressional cat…or even a presidential one!
Romulus
December 24th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
it is obvious that there is fast becoming one single option left for anyone with any type of spine. they are going to toss these two bills together and ram them straight down our throats, this current administration is totally criminal and all must be prosecuted to the highest extent of the law under our constitution, but first the people must regain control over the goverment, they have forgotten that they work for us, we the people.
December 24th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
http://911essentials.com says when will we stop putting up with this crap and start indicting those that have violated the Constitution and committed treason against We the People?
December 25th, 2009 at 3:42 am
HAPPY BIRTHDAY JESUS!!!!
x
matthew Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
He wasn’t born today he was born September. Read Jerimiah 10 and see what xmas is really about. IDOLS
December 25th, 2009 at 6:58 am
This whole conversation is kind of disgusting.
You all need to educate yourselves enough to be able to act in your own self-interest.
Healthcare costs by country per capita:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0934556.html
We pay six thousand dollars per year per capita for healthcare, while other industrialized countries with good healthcare pay three thousand dollars per year per person, and cover everybody.
Christ, learn to read, and to add.
Educate yourself enough to act in your own self-interest.
This bill could be better, but it is the best the Democrats could do, and it will save us money.
Why in the world would we want to kill it?
A couple years back my SISTER DIED from cancer, because she had very expensive limited PPO coverage, and saw different doctors in a hurry at a clinic, who told her that her stomach cancer was acid reflux disease. By the time her cancer was diagnosed, it was too late to save her, and the cancer had spread to her other organs.
We pay more than other countries, and get less in return.
Why is that so hard for you all to understand?
What part of “ripped off” do you fail to understand?
You all are being cheated, and you’re so heavily propagandized that you are lining up to support your oppressors.
Obama, Reid, Pelosi, and the others that you revile and call names are putting their political careers on the line to do the right thing, and you all are so heavily propagandized you can’t see it.
Unbelievable.
Stand out in the middle of the clue herd, cover yourselves with clue musk, bellow the clue mating call, and then buy yourselves a clue!
Merry Christmas, by the way.
Mama J Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Damn Leland, get a CLUE! How are Americans to pay for this health care when most are UNEMPLOYED? Oh, that’s right. You missed that part of the bill….THEY GO TO JAIL! Why don’t you educate YOURSELF enough to read the damn thing
MsCharlyCorday Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Merry Chrismas Leland, sorry about your sister. Do you remember back in the summer Palin and company used the term “death panels” to refer to “Advance Care Planning Consultation”, a.k.a., the ‘living will’; now they are recycling it to refer to the ‘Independent Medicare Advisory Board’, a cost containment body for Medicare only; see: Decoding the health care debate — a glossary http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31…..alth_care/ “The Senate bill would establish an Independent Medicare Advisory Board, which would be required to recommend changes to the Medicare program to limit its spending growth. … The board couldn’t change eligibility or benefits, so its recommendations would likely focus on Medicare Advantage plans and on payments to medical providers.”
It is a good thing to get Medicare cost under control, because it and the other government programs account for about half of all healthcare spending; and it’s only going to grow as ‘baby boomers’ (like me) age and retire. Single payer universal healthcare is America’s future, get used to it!
Zazueta Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
You my friend are the poster child for the term useful idiot. Somehow you believe your sister would have undergone endoscopy sooner in a government run system. Are you crazy? You can’t even stay with any certainly that if your sister was diagnosed on first presentation that her cancer would not have already spread -just typical Liberal magical thinking.
American health care is expensive for two reasons, excessive government regulation and frivolous litigation. Physicians must practice defensive medicine to prevent lawsuits. The health takeover is really just a way to increase taxes so we can maintain our national debt interest payments to the banks.
So go live in your MSM generated Liberal fantasy world while free America dies.
shocked and awed Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Leland you are a Government shill piece of s--- and I doubt that your dead sister even existed as it seems much too convienient to drag her pitiful corpse into your factless argument.
There is nothing in this bill that will help the poor slob with no insurance. If you are working you are mandated to pay 8% of your income up to $7500 single and $1500 family. AND you start paying NOW but this great coverage doesn’t kick in till 2014!!!!! IF you can’t afford that you get ‘gov-cov’. Ever try to get a health problem taken care of with a card telling the doctor that uncle sam will foot the bill? Yeah. And if you are in need of extensive care like dialasis, or cancer treatments, might as well camp out in potter’s field and save the state the cost of driving you there. Previous condition? Too bad. The state that you live in will look into it on a CASE BY CASE basis. Should get approval by the time you’re rotten in the ground. Medicare? This bill just CUT it by 500 BILLION. Cheap drugs from Canada? Tough crap NO reimportation of drugs from there. That means even drugs that were MADE HERE AND EXPORTED THERE can’t be had. Go to jail sickie or don’t even try. Cheap generics? Not any more!!!! Brand name drugs at brand name prices. AND who keeps an eye on all this mess? your friendly IRS!!!!! The most compassionate and efficient people in all the world.
If this bill is supposed to be good for us and to ’stick it’ to the insurance companies and Big Pharma
HOWCOME their stocks skyrocketed when it passed!!!???!!
WHAT HAPPENED to the single-payer bill. 27 PAGES LONG??? Basically it expanded Medicare to ALL people. No pork, no pitfalls no profit. No wonder doctors who TRIED to testify in favor of it were ARRESTED. Single payer is what Obama PROMISED ti give us. Goes to show you who he works for. End of rant. You can look it up for yourself on other websites, everything that I have said is true. To everyone, Merry Christmas, EXCEPT Leland. YOU should ROT IN HELL YOU LYING SON OF A BITCH. I HOPE THE GOV. DOESN”T PAY YOU FOR POSTING YOUR FILTHY ROTTEN LIES!!!!!YOU PIECE OF s--- YOU!!!!!!!!
Leland Palmer Reply:
December 25th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Hi All-
Yes, I want single payer, nationalized healthcare.
We weren’t able to get that.
So we got a bill that just cracks down a little on some of the most severe abuses, doesn’t save very much money, and so on. The House bill is somewhat stronger, so I read. Hopefully the reconciled bill that Obama signs will be stronger.
Obama was not able to deliver on his promise, yet, but he still has three years or so to deliver on it. This bill does correct some of the most severe abuses.
If we cooperate in efforts to bring down Obama, the Republicans gain a few more seats, increase their control, and stop all change in 2011.
Obama is at least trying, after having been handed the worst deal of any President on record.
Support Obama, instead. Strengthen him and the Democrats. Help us (I’m a registered Democrat) lead the world into a clean energy future, and stand together with us to beat back the Republican strategy of criticism and intransigence.
Take what we can get, defeat the Republicans in 2010, hold the Democrat’s majority in the Senate, and then come back next year, with more reforms.
fist of fun Reply:
December 26th, 2009 at 12:50 am
Hey Leland,
I do agree that single payer (just call it medicare for all) would be a good idea if we could trust the motivations of our governing bureaucracy. It isn’t about Democrat vs Republican because clearly both parties have sold out to the insurance companies and big pharma. Unless the bribery…er lobbying problems can be sorted out we are just spitting in the wind.
The real outrage with this bill is that it sets up a government-sponsored compulsory cartel where people are forced under penalty of law to buy this overpriced private insurance. This can’t be constitutional.
MsCharlyCorday Reply:
December 26th, 2009 at 1:24 am
Leland apparently has a thick hide and can take this abuse, but it is rage-addicts like you s-n-a that is to blame for the watered-down bill, what with your town-hall putsches on the marching orders of der Fuehrer Glenn Beck, and your tea-bag parties with Michelle ‘Jim Jones’ Bachmann. Okay, let the abuse begin; but remember, I’m rubber and you’re glue…
December 25th, 2009 at 8:24 am
since this horrible bill of intrusion has been passed a local company that has been in my town for years has announced it cannot afford to pay the extra taxes this bill says must be paid so they announced that 1,200 jobs will be moved overseas,thus closing this facility,thanks Obama,FOR NOTHING!!!!
December 25th, 2009 at 11:40 am
ms charly its so nice to hear that all your thinking about is yourself
December 25th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
korea war kill commies ,viet nam kill commies now they rule the usa why did thousands of men die killing commies?
December 25th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
IS PROPHECY COMING TO PASS??..LOOKS THAT WAY!!
Watch all parts, then please watch this excellent video about the NEW WORLD ORDER from
1988 This was over 10 years before even Alex Jones was talking about it, when the Berlin wall was still up, Russia was still strong and NO ONE could even consider that the wall or Russia would fall. Where you would considered a complete lunatic if you even THOUGHT that
this would occur..but this program and booklets said Europe WOULD unite with 100% certainty. Just as we’re seeing today, the EU is gaining in power, prominence and influence
RIGHT BEFORE our EYES and find out what the EU REALLY is that is forming RIGHT NOW!!
Please check out all 3 parts of;
The World Tomorrow 1988 – “INSIDE THE NEW EUROPE” /NEW WORLD ORDER 1 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_rtj2rLASo
and POSTED on PRISONPLANET.COM (Multimedia Archives)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/th.....order.html
Then please take a look at Nigel Farage on Alex Jones on 12-16-09 and how he’s now talking about how the EC (Economic Community) was now BECOMING the European Union by stealth!…just like “THE WORLD TOMORROW 1988″ said it would!
“Nigel Farage on European Union Formation on Alex Jones 1 of 3″
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBG68RokS0Q
also check out
The World Tomorrow – “Four Horseman of the Apocalypse” 1 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpQJ9-6jScs
December 25th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Please check out this excellent Mainstream report from
20/20’s John Stossel debunking global warming, Al
Gores “Inconvenient Truth” and more!!
PLEASE SHARE EVERYWHERE!!
Global Warming Theory DESTROYED By 20/20’s John
Stossel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfjwGbdDLoA
Also check out RON PAUL in 1988 preaching the same
message as today!!
Ron Paul 1988 (1/5) Federal Reserve, Central Banking,
Council Foreign Relations, Republicrats
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..eature=sub
December 25th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
We Can Still Stop Government Takeover Of Health Care?
Go ahead and do it. We will all be stuck with astronomical health insurance premiums by our good friends at AIG, then when you get sick and need the coverage, the insurance giants will show you the fine print you signed and not cover you. How can anyone in their right mind not want change in the way medical is run in this country.
December 25th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Preparing for Civil Unrest in America
Legislation to Establish Internment Camps on US Military Bases
by Michel Chossudovsky
http://www.Global Research.ca, March 18, 2009
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The Economic and Social Crisis
The financial meltdown has unleashed a latent and emergent social crisis across the United States.
What is at stake is the fraudulent confiscation of lifelong savings and pension funds, the appropriation of tax revenues to finance the trillion dollar “bank bailouts”, which ultimately serve to line the pockets of the richest people in America.
This economic crisis is in large part the result of financial manipulation and outright fraud to the detriment of entire populations, leading to a renewed wave of corporate bankruptcies, mass unemployment and poverty.
The criminalization of the global financial system, characterized by a “Shadow Banking” network has resulted in the centralization of bank power and an unprecedented concentration of private wealth.
Obama’s “economic stimulus” package and budget proposals contribute to a further process of concentration and centralization of bank power, the cumulative effects of which will eventually resul in large scale corporate, bankruptcies, a new wave of foreclosures not to mention fiscal collapse and the downfall of State social programs. (For further details see Michel Chossudovsky, America’s Fiscal Collapse, Global Research, March 2, 2009).
The cumulative decline of real economic activity backlashes on employment and wages, which in turn leads to a collapse in purchaisng power. The proposed “solution” under the Obama administration contributes to exacerbating rather than alleviating social inequalities and the process of wealth concentration.
The Protest Movement
When people across America, whose lives have been shattered and destroyed, come to realize the true face of the global “free market” system, the legitimacy of Wall Street, the Federal Reserve and the US administration will be challenged.
A latent protest movement directed against the seat of economic and political power is unfolding.
How this process will occur is hard to predict. All sectors of American society are potentially affected: wage earners, small, medium and even large businesses, farmers, professionals, federal, State and municipal employees, students, teachers, health workers, and unemployed. Protests will initially emerge from these various sectors. There is, however, at this stage, no organized national resistance movement directed against the administration’s economic and financial agenda.
Obama’s populist rhetoric conceals the true nature of macro-economic policy. Acting on behalf of Wall Street, the administration’s economic package, which includes close to a trillion dollar “aid” package for the financial services industry, coupled with massive austerity measures, contributes to precipitating America into a bottomless crisis.
“Orwellian Solution” to the Great Depression: Curbing Civil Unrest
At this particular juncture, there is no economic recovery program in sight. The Washington-Wall Street consensus prevails. There are no policies, no alternatives formulated from within the political and economic system. .
What is the way out? How will the US government face an impending social catastrophe?
The solution is to curb social unrest. The chosen avenue, inherited from the outgoing Bush administration is the reinforcement of the Homeland Security apparatus and the militarization of civilian State institutions.
The outgoing administration has laid the groundwork. Various pieces of “anti-terrorist” legislation (including the Patriot Acts) and presidential directives have been put in place since 2001, largely using the pretext of the “Global War on Terrorism.”
Homeland Security’s Internment Camps
Directly related to the issue of curbing social unrest, cohesive system of detention camps is also envisaged, under the jurisdiction of the Department of Homeland Security and the Pentagon.
A bill entitled the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act (HR 645) was introduced in the US Congress in January. It calls for the establishment of six national emergency centers in major regions in the US to be located on existing military installations. http://www.govtrack.us/congres.....l=h111-645
The stated purpose of the “national emergency centers” is to provide “temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster.” In actuality, what we are dealing with are FEMA internment camps. HR 645 states that the camps can be used to “meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.”
There has been virtually no press coverage of HR 645.
These “civilian facilities” on US military bases are to be established in cooperation with the US Military. Modeled on Guantanamo, what we are dealing with is the militarization of FEMA internment facilities.
Once a person is arrested and interned in a FEMA camp located on a military base, that person would in all likelihood, under a national emergency, fall under the de facto jurisdiction of the Military: civilian justice and law enforcement including habeas corpus would no longer apply.
HR 645 bears a direct relationship to the economic crisis and the likelihood of mass protests across America. It constitutes a further move to militarize civilian law enforcement, repealing the Posse Comitatus Act.
In the words of Rep. Ron Paul:
“…the fusion centers, militarized police, surveillance cameras and a domestic military command is not enough… Even though we know that detention facilities are already in place, they now want to legalize the construction of FEMA camps on military installations using the ever popular excuse that the facilities are for the purposes of a national emergency. With the phony debt-based economy getting worse and worse by the day, the possibility of civil unrest is becoming a greater threat to the establishment. One need only look at Iceland, Greece and other nations for what might happen in the United States next.” (Daily Paul, September 2008, emphasis added)
The proposed internment camps should be seen in relation to the broader process of militarization of civilian institutions. The construction of internment camps predates the introduction of HR 645 (Establishment of Emergency Centers) in January 2009. There are, according to various (unconfirmed) reports, some 800 FEMA prison camps in different regions of the U.S. Moreover, since the 1980s, the US military has developed “tactics, techniques and procedures” to suppress civilian dissent, to be used in the eventuality of mass protests (United States Army Field Manual 19-15 under Operation Garden Plot, entitled “Civil Disturbances” was issued in 1985)
In early 2006, tax revenues were allocated to building modern internment camp facilities. In January 2006, Kellogg Brown and Roots, which at the time was a subsidiary of Halliburton, received a $385 million contract from the Department of Homeland Security’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE):
“The contract, which is effective immediately [January 2006], provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations (DRO) Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs…
The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other U.S. Government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster. (KBR, 24 January 2006, emphasis added)
The stated objectives of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) are to:
“protect national security and uphold public safety by targeting criminal networks and terrorist organizations that seek to exploit vulnerabilities in our immigration system, in our financial networks, along our border, at federal facilities and elsewhere in order to do harm to the United States. The end result is a safer, more secure America” (ICE homepage)
The US media is mum on the issue of the internment camps on US soil. While casually acknowledging the multimillion dollar contract granted to Halliburton’s subsidiary, the news reports largely focused their attention on possible “cost overruns” (similar to those which occurred with KBR in Iraq).
What is the political intent and purpose of these camps? The potential use of these internment facilities to detain American citizens under a martial law situation are not an object of media debate or discussion.
Combat Units Assigned to the Homeland
In the last months of the Bush administration, prior to the November 2008 presidential elections, the Department of Defense ordered the recall of the 3rd Infantry’s 1st Brigade Combat Team from Iraq. The relocation of a combat unit from the war theater to domestic front is an integral part of the Homeland Security agenda. The BCT was assigned to assist in law enforcement activities within the US.
The BCT combat unit was attached to US Army North, the Army’s component of US Northern Command (USNORTHCOM). The 1st BCT and other combat units would be called upon to perform specific military functions in the case of civil unrest:
The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.(
(See Gina Cavallaro, Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1, Army Times, September 8, 2008).
Under the proposed withdrawal of US forces from Iraq under the Obama administration, one expects that other combat units will be brought home from the war theater and reassigned in the United States.
The evolving national security scenario is characterized by a mesh of civilian and military institutions:
-Army combat units working with civilian law enforcement, with the stated mission to curb “social unrest”.
- the establishment of new internment camps under civilian jurisdiction located on US military facilities.
The FEMA internment camps are part of the Continuity of Government (COG), which would be put in place in the case of martial law.
The internment camps are intended to “protect the government” against its citizens, by locking up protesters as well as political activists who might challenge the legitimacy of the Administration’s national security, economic or military agenda.
Spying on Americans: The Big Brother Data Bank
Related to the issue of internment and mass protests, how will data on American citizens be collected?
How will individuals across America be categorized?
What are the criteria of the Department of Homeland Security?
In a 2004 report of the Homeland Security Council entitled Planning Scenarios, pertaining to the defense of the Homeland, the following categories of potential “conspirators” were identified:
“foreign [Islamic] terrorists” ,
“domestic radical groups”, [antiwar and civil rights groups]
“state sponsored adversaries” ["rogue states", "unstable nations"]
“disgruntled employees” [labor and union activists].
In June of last year, the Bush administration issued a National Security Presidential Directive (NSPD 59- HSPD 24) entitled Biometrics for Identification and Screening to Enhance National Security (For Further details see Michel Chossudovsky, “Big Brother” Presidential Directive: “Biometrics for Identification and Screening to Enhance National Security”, Global Research, June 2008)
Adopted without public debate or Congressional approval, its relevant procedures are far-reaching. They are related to the issue of civil unrest. They are also part of the logic behind the establishment of FEMA internment camps under HR 645. .
NSPD 59 (Biometrics for Identification and Screening to Enhance National Security) goes far beyond the narrow issue of biometric identification, it recommends the collection and storage of “associated biographic” information, meaning information on the private lives of US citizens, in minute detail, all of which will be “accomplished within the law”:
“The contextual data that accompanies biometric data includes information on date and place of birth, citizenship, current address and address history, current employment and employment history, current phone numbers and phone number history, use of government services and tax filings. Other contextual data may include bank account and credit card histories, plus criminal database records on a local, state and federal level. The database also could include legal judgments or other public records documenting involvement in legal disputes, child custody records and marriage or divorce records.”(See Jerome Corsi, June 2008)
The directive uses 9/11 and the “Global War on Terrorism” as an all encompassing justification to wage a witch hunt against dissenting citizens, establishing at the same time an atmosphere of fear and intimidation across the land.
It also calls for the integration of various data banks as well as inter-agency cooperation in the sharing of information, with a view to eventually centralizing the information on American citizens.
In a carefully worded text, NSPD 59 “establishes a framework” to enable the Federal government and its various police and intelligence agencies to:
“use mutually compatible methods and procedures in the collection, storage, use, analysis, and sharing of biometric and associated biographic and contextual information of individuals in a lawful and appropriate manner, while respecting their information privacy and other legal rights under United States law.”
The NSPD 59 Directive recommends: “actions and associated timelines for enhancing the existing terrorist-oriented identification and screening processes by expanding the use of biometrics”.
The procedures under NSPD 59 are consistent with an earlier June 2005 decision which consisted in creating a “domestic spy service”, under the auspices of the FBI. (For further details see Michel Chossudovsky, Bush Administration creates “Secret State Police”, June 30, 2005)
Working hand in glove with Homeland Security (DHS), the proposed “domestic intelligence department” would combine FBI counterterrorism, intelligence and espionage operations into a single service.
The new department operating under the auspices of the FBI would have the authority to “seize the property of people deemed to be helping the spread of WMD”: They would be able to “spy on people in America suspected of terrorism or having critical intelligence information, even if they are not suspected of committing a crime.” (NBC Tonight, 29 June 2005).\
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ANNEX
Text of H.R. 645: National Emergency Centers Establishment Act
This version: Introduced in House.
This is the original text of the bill as it was written by its sponsor and submitted to the House for consideration. This is the latest version of the bill available on this website.
[SOURCE: http://www.govtrack.us/congres.....l=h111-645
HR 645 IH
111th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 645
To direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
January 22, 2009
Mr. HASTINGS of Florida introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, and in addition to the Committee on Armed Services, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned
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A BILL
To direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘National Emergency Centers Establishment Act’.
SEC. 2. ESTABLISHMENT OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.
(a) In General- In accordance with the requirements of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish not fewer than 6 national emergency centers on military installations.
(b) Purpose of National Emergency Centers- The purpose of a national emergency center shall be to use existing infrastructure–
(1) to provide temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster;
(2) to provide centralized locations for the purposes of training and ensuring the coordination of Federal, State, and local first responders;
(3) to provide centralized locations to improve the coordination of preparedness, response, and recovery efforts of government, private, and not-for-profit entities and faith-based organizations; and
(4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.
SEC. 3. DESIGNATION OF MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AS NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.
(a) In General- Not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate not fewer than 6 military installations as sites for the establishment of national emergency centers.
(b) Minimum Requirements- A site designated as a national emergency center shall be–
(1) capable of meeting for an extended period of time the housing, health, transportation, education, public works, humanitarian and other transition needs of a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster;
(2) environmentally safe and shall not pose a health risk to individuals who may use the center;
(3) capable of being scaled up or down to accommodate major disaster preparedness and response drills, operations, and procedures;
(4) capable of housing existing permanent structures necessary to meet training and first responders coordination requirements during nondisaster periods;
(5) capable of hosting the infrastructure necessary to rapidly adjust to temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance needs;
(6) required to consist of a complete operations command center, including 2 state-of-the art command and control centers that will comprise a 24/7 operations watch center as follows:
(A) one of the command and control centers shall be in full ready mode; and
(B) the other shall be used daily for training; and
(7) easily accessible at all times and be able to facilitate handicapped and medical facilities, including during an emergency or major disaster.
(c) Location of National Emergency Centers- There shall be established not fewer than one national emergency center in each of the following areas:
(1) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions I, II, and III.
(2) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV.
(3) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions V and VII.
(4) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region VI.
(5) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions VIII and X.
(6) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IX.
(d) Preference for Designation of Closed Military Installations- Wherever possible, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate a closed military installation as a site for a national emergency center. If the Secretaries of Homeland Security and Defense jointly determine that there is not a sufficient number of closed military installations that meet the requirements of subsections (b) and (c), the Secretaries shall jointly designate portions of existing military installations other than closed military installations as national emergency centers.
(e) Transfer of Control of Closed Military Installations- If a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Defense shall transfer to the Secretary of Homeland Security administrative jurisdiction over such closed military installation.
(f) Cooperative Agreement for Joint Use of Existing Military Installations- If an existing military installation other than a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of Defense shall enter into a cooperative agreement to provide for the establishment of the national emergency center.
(g) Reports-
(1) PRELIMINARY REPORT- Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report
AND MORE
December 25th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
all of you assholes can thank your government for the mess we’re in today, health care, labor, economy, etc. We allow this to happen because we love it, I am a asshole too, to
not standing up to our representatives. they can screw me till i am dead. this mess didn’t start in November when we elected obama (your mama) this has been going on for years. So what the f--- are all of you asshole crying about. suck it up and enjoy it. ASSHOLES!!!!!
Get on the phone and call your representatives. Tell them your assholes are burning and it’s
not your hemroids, but it’s because their f---ing us so damm hard!!!!!!!!!!!!! Merry christmas to all the politicians. I hope all the stores sell out of Prepertion H, so they can fee the pain too.
December 25th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Think of this for a minute…
We are not fighting for our FREEDOM, we already have it!!! Constitutional Republic supporters are over 78%… The governmentally corrupt, will NOT protect their jobs, because UNITY for our Constitution is stronger than the Unity of corruption.
As Government harvests our future… And now hopes to borrow from our Health; we are immune to their platitudes, corrupt media, bankers, lawyers, and Foreign Commies…
But they want us to believe that we will face death, if we stop them…
This is a LIE…. It is THEY who have reached a wall…
All we need to do is to continue to NOT acquire new debt; and mobilize and synchronize our VOTES, to cast out ALL recognizable traitors, and FORCE Life back into our Constitution.
+++ALEX: We could use some direction (again) which highlights the names of manufacturers that directly support NWO… And we will cease to support with our purchases…
December 26th, 2009 at 12:52 am
THE ONLY WAY TO STOP THIS NONSENSE IS THROUGH A VIOLENT NATIOWIDE REVOLT..
December 26th, 2009 at 12:53 am
CEASE TO SUPPOERT all corportaions in amerika?..you SHEEPLE will starve and freeze to eath..
December 26th, 2009 at 12:53 am
to death
December 26th, 2009 at 1:41 am
Most likely some silly bastard!
December 26th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
One is dead without Liberty… And I stand by my statement… Regardless if the task sounds impossible, we should think again about directing our full financial support (& contributing to the prosperity of) those who stand in direct opposite of U.S. Liberties…
This is not forever, but as least a way to protest, and redirect our values… Never underestimate the success of pressuring sponsors; while giving our support to small businesses that are taking the hit.
January 1st, 2010 at 8:45 am
This is a fantastic place I can’t believe I didn’t wander onto it sooner!