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June 1st, 2009 at 10:23 am
Since she is carrying the health bill for the 9/11 first responders, I don’t think her words can be doubted. What is despicable is that we have to pass such a bil 8 years after the fact. What does that say about us?
Richard Fowler-Pierre Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 11:08 am
It obviously says that there is a massive military operation to bury the truth in a mountain of lies and distractions, and to bring historic pressure to bear on those who would make a credible effort to spotlight the truth. It also says to me that the majority of those who have their doubts about the official story feel that, if it really is all lies, then it’s too late to do anything on a mass scale, because that would produce a ruthless response and bring their current (still relatively comfortable) lifestyle to a swift and permanent end.
But I want to say that I am not buying that Gillibrand wants the truth to come out. When has she ever said she even considers it *possible* that this was a false-flag attack, or any words to that effect?
Anyone who can’t get language like that past their lips should be completely shunned. Am I wrong in believing that Gillibrand hasn’t said a word about this?
RFP
"Pull It" says Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Props to WE ARE CHANGE !! YOU GUYS ARE WHAT MAKES THIS COUNTRY GREAT. EVERY SOLDIER SHOULD KNOW THE PRIDE THAT WE ARE CHANGE HAS IN THIS COUNTRY. YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME.
STAY THE COURSE BOYS AND WACH YOUR BACKS, THE BUSHS ARE CUT THROAT COC_ SUC_ERS. MAY YOUR WORK LEAD TO THE HANGING OF THOSE TRAITORS.
June 1st, 2009 at 10:38 am
Rumsfeld blew up the Pentagon budget records;
Cheney blew up the WTC 7 Enron fraud files;
Silverstein blew up the Towers for Billions in insurance;
Bush blew his lines how he heard the news.
“I know 9-11 was an inside job.
The police know it’s an inside job;
and the firemen know it too.”
NYC Fire Lieutenant Paul Isaac
The time is coming for the truth to be told!
Elizabeth http://www.BushWarCrimes.com
Reconmarine Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 3:16 pm
and apparently you must have blew up or somehow lost all your critical thinking skills somewhere along the way.
9/11 wasnt an inside job
We are change is a bunch of politically driven idiots who dont know jack s--- about 9/11, demolitions, terrorism or basic reality.
I hope people start knocking these kids out when they bombard people with cameras and lies implicating people in mass murder.
June 1st, 2009 at 11:10 am
damn……….you guys are sooooo gullible.
Reconmarine Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 3:18 pm
most of them know 911 wasnt an inside job, they just dont want to admit they have just wasted the last few years with this s--- or, they just want to pretend like they found out something the Chinese and Russians apparently havent been able to discover yet…..You know, because if they did, they would probably want all the money they have lost in weapons sales back……..What am i thinking????Those countries dont want to increase their standing in the world…How silly of me.
June 1st, 2009 at 11:11 am
What we want is an actual, genuine, criminal homicide investigation done. The investigation that was supposed to have been started 8 years ago.
We want a real investigation that includes forensic analysis of evidence, gathering of witness testimony, et cetera, et cetera. In other words, a real investigation that full grown adults would do in the real world to solve a crime. No political agenda nonsenses that fool with the facts and figures.
Is that asking too much?
No, it isn’t.
Reconmarine Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 3:22 pm
steve- An actual homicide investigation? Ok
1) you have thousands of witnesses that collectively saw all 4 planes crash
2) You have DNA and identifiable plane parts at all 4 sites id’ing all passengers and verifying the ID of all 4 planes and their origin
3) you have witnesses who saw the high jackers in the airports, on prior flights, going through security, and ultimately boarding the 4 high jacked planes.
And there is a s--- load more. So, compared to a “actual, genuine, criminal investigation, there is OVERWHELMING physical evidence with eyewitness testimony collaborating the official version of events.
Good Idea Steve!
Mobius Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Reconmarine, it’s useless to debate someone whose comments reflect a mind that is closed to critical analysis of facts. Having said that, you can’t get away with what you are spewing on this forum unchallenged.
WHY?
Are there no still photos or videos clearly showing a 757 on a collision course with the Pentagon, nor a crashsite photo with debris/damage consistent with such a collision. The hole in the Pentagon is not big enough for a commercial jet liner to have caused the impact.
The following are quotes by former military officers – and true patriots – who have questioned the official conspiracy theory:
Quoted: Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 – 1984.
“The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What’s going on?”
Quoted: Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former Political-Military Affairs Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Also served on the staff of the Director of the National Security Agency. 20-year Air Force career.
“I saw nothing of significance at the point of impact – no airplane metal or cargo debris was blowing on the lawn in front of the damaged building as smoke billowed from within the Pentagon. … all of us staring at the Pentagon that morning were indeed looking for such debris, but what we expected to see was not evident.”
While you continue to represent yourself as a patriot, you have shown nothing but a pseudo-militarized screen name and the behavior of a disinformation troll, one whose smokescreen functions as an enabler after the fact. That is the effect of your actions, so you are what you do. What you do is to lie and obfuscate the actual events.
In the unlikely event that you have a shred of open-mindedness or actual love of country, read some books by David Ray Griffin, google some videos of his recent speeches, read the hundreds of statements by credible persons at patriotsquestion911dotcom, and watch Richard Gage’s presentations at Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth.
June 1st, 2009 at 11:24 am
She doesn’t want to do it because of Alex or anybody that has looked into IT,she wants to blame Bush/Cheney…AND ONLY BUSH/CHENEY!!,DISREGARDING THE FACT THAT THE PLOT WAS HATCHED TWO YEARS BEFORE THEY TOOK POWER,DISREGARDING “ABLE DANGER” & JAMIE GARELIC,FLIGHT 800 & THE SAUDI FLIGHT THAT DIVED INTO THE OCEAN,WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN DRY RUNS!
That doesn’t get Bush/ Cheney off the hook,that just makes Alex’s point that the real mothers behind the curtains control both party’s,the Media,the Courts,DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THERE HAS TO BE OPPOSITION TO EVERY ISSUE OR THEY WOULD BLOW THEIR COVER TO THE FACT ALL ISSUES ARE DECIDED IN A BACK ROOM WAY BEFORE THE FAKE DEBATES TO KEEP THE SHEEPLE OCCUPIED!
I wanna see an outside investigation(somebody the people choose) and let the person who runs the investigation go in any direction he/she wants,ask any questions and get all these Mother F’kers into a deposition room… GET EM’ ON THE F’KING RECORD!…ANYTHING SHORT OF THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER F’KING JOKE!!
June 1st, 2009 at 11:29 am
There isn’t going to be a 3rd investigation into 9-11. Get over it.
jg Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Very true, michael – the first part of what you say. The second sentence went down the plughole back in JFK’s time. To say ‘Get over it’ especially when victims might be reading this is, at least, insensitive and at worst downright heartless.
Besides, who needs an inquiry when a majority of people, globally, have now seen through the scam? Yep, majority, backed by scientific evidence. And when a majority see what’s gone down, historically they become ungovernable.
See the route we’re taking now that 9/11 has been denied for so long? A proper, un-Zelikowed Commission could have put the world back on track. They were too spineless/comfortable/blackmailed to do so. Meltdown results.
Good luck, cynicism-for-brains
michael Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Its now half way through 2009. When do you think this next investigation into 9-11 will take place? 2015? 2020?
Maybe 2035?
Its not gonna happen buddy. The American people don’t want it..and CERTAINLY don’t wanna pay for it.
warren buffet Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 1:33 pm
I’ll pay for it!!!!!
June 1st, 2009 at 12:31 pm
thank you senator!!
June 1st, 2009 at 2:27 pm
michael,
We are paying for it now to the tune of $1 bil a week in b.s. wars. But you are correct. The masses are not demanding truth and so we shall not know truth. The American people get exactly what they earn. Not a penny more nor less.
June 1st, 2009 at 5:30 pm
TRUTH WILL PREVAIL AND TIME IS THE BEST HEALER – JUST REMEMBER THIS!!
Reconmarine Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Good point Rob!
That’s why after time, the 9/11 truth movement is dwindling away rapidly and nobody takes it serious.
Great post!
Wild Will Reply:
June 2nd, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Absolutely right! I for one wish this would all go away, As long as they keep feeding me, I’m happy to stay in my pen. I don’t like it when they make me think too much, it makes my head hurt…Don’t worry, be happy…Wild Will
June 1st, 2009 at 7:47 pm
To “Reconmarine”:
Obviously, you are military influenced and I thank you for your servitude.
However, you are not trained to “think” are you? You’re trained like a dog…told when to sit, stand, eat, roll over, kill, etc.. In summary, you are used as a tool, a “disposable hero.”
A “soldier” is told what to think…a “patriot” thinks for him/herself. You have obviously chosen to remain a soldier. Kudos.
You’re opinion means nothing, as you have chosen your path…to have someone else tell you what to think. Again, thank you for your service to our country, but your not qualified to speak on the subject of truth regarding the events of September 11, 2001.
June 1st, 2009 at 9:03 pm
SPEAKS FOR ITSELF
http://www.ae911truth.org
June 1st, 2009 at 9:26 pm
See…
This whole 911 truth is a cult a gimmick.
Example:
The person “quoting” me is ill imformed because its already a
proven fact that the victor thorn “little boys first wet dream” is bulls---
along with lisa “lets dump the kids” giuliani.
2. What happened to Danny Wallace?
why is no one asking questions about the circumstances
around his death? Why is his susposed ex girlfriend intimate
with Dannys best good buddy luke? Why is she telling different
story about how danny passed? Did she give him the pills?
Ect ect ect…
Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)
Tyler Reply:
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:10 am
Paul,
When I first read the quote in question above, the first thing I did was look up your name. I found some article that mentions the kinds of things mentioned in the quote. I then found on several forums that you (or someone using the name Paul Isaac + the forum name “Sentinel”, “NYsentinel”) posted many times that you did not say the thing attributed to you. Seeing that teh style of writing is very consistent across the boards, I’m assuming they’re all from the same person, and according to the people on the JREF forums ( http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=61418 ), it actually is you. I had considered the possibility of seeing if you would correct the above post by ElizabethR, but I see you had somehow found your way here and made a statement on your own.
My point is, in order for there to be an educated debate on a topic, the evidence (such as statements by witnesses for example) must contain legitimate information. Sometimes I feel that many readers here do not try to double check things they come across.
To the readers, this is not meant as an insult. Take this as a reminder to question everything. If it smells rotten, question it. If it sounds too good to be true, question it. If it sounds legit, question it anyway.
June 1st, 2009 at 9:31 pm
See…
Just like I said
Youll quote bulls--- and censor truth.
Danny Wallace RIP
NYsentinel
June 1st, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Lets see how fast the post disapear
Get ready…
Get set…
Censor !!!
NYsentinel
June 1st, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Oh…
To Elizabeth R,
Im sorry but that “quote” was manufactured
by Scot mafuka aka “little boys first wet dream”
aka “the blow up doll” and lisa ” lets dump the kids”
giuliani.
Its not truth
NYsentinel
June 1st, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Hey moderator
Why did you censor my first post?
The one about sabrina luke and danny?
Why is no one asking questions about
that conspiracy?
NYsentinel
June 1st, 2009 at 9:41 pm
I see the Mod put it back.
Great show
NYsentinel
June 1st, 2009 at 10:37 pm
ReconMarine:
NY Senator Gillibrand supports another 9-11 Investigation. Say it ain’t so Recon!!! Another credible person supporting this grand conspiracy. You must be losing faith rapidly in this country. So many disillusioned souls who cling on to the insanity of 9-11 being an inside job. And you Recon being a “true patriot” and trying to point all this out to so many misinformed brainwashed fools – even Senators are being sucked into these “crazy” theories. What are you to do Recon??? So many credible people being suckered into such obvious mistruths – how can you cope with the gulliability of so many???
As I have said each every time I post to you Recon – You are a Useful Idiot
Keep drinking the cool aid or should I say cashing those checks!
June 2nd, 2009 at 4:00 am
My two favorite protesters!
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:47 am
Tyler,
Great point.
For the record Im for a new investigation.
I even went on firehouse forums to announce it.
But the one thing I cant stand are the scams and
the people who will follow them.
NY911truth is a sham run by les jamieson who along with
richard gage ripped me off. Richard Gage took my photo from
my speech at st marks church then posted it with the false wingtv
quote. Goes to show that his investigative power is either limited
or there was a deliberate attempt of fraud. Google: “JREF richard gage still
begging for dollars”
Les Jamieson knew it was false yet he let the guy cut and paste my picture
placing false bs. Didnt have a problem associating with wingtv either. Then
richard gage got his feelings hurt when I threatend him him with legal action.
Loosechange stole my work
Wingtv makes up false s---
Wearechange (ny) seems to be connected to danny wallace exploitation
Alex Jones has yellow shirt (brown shirt) security
First Responders are dying
Everyone is a celebrity now
Paul (NYsentinel)
Its a gimmick.
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:51 am
Ps
Les jamieson actually is guilty of covering
evidence of 911.
Check ny911truth for my article.
Where did the evidence go.
That makes the truth mob guilty of
Obstruction of Justice
Aidding and abetting
Criminal Fraud
NYsentinel
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Another point…
Theres an article that should be very
Offensive to everyone:
“FDNY personel exept paul isaac
proven to be chickens--- dogs”
This is the type of s--- that will
definately bring people over for the
cause, for sure
If we cant police ourself then we deserve
what we get. If we are going to associate
ourselves with criminals and jerkoffs then…
NYsentinel
June 8th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
nlarosa Posted: Sep 25 2007, 01:30 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OcRw0BZvPs
ok in this video posted by wearechange. Rivera first flashed my brother in laws prayer card!!!! and then is yelling in the video ” i didn’t find my family member because of you, because you threw them away” and then so goes on ” I didn’t find them because of this scum” WTF she did not lose anyone 9/11 and she is not my family member why the hell do they put my family into this? They have no respect at all for anyone, I lost all respect for Rivera we told her to leave our family out of this These people seriously have something wrong with them, they just lie and don’t care what they are lying about.
Do you people really care about the victims? Because i know Sabrina and she did not lose anyone 9/11 she is a lair just like you people it seems. WE HAVE ASKED TO LEAVE OUR FAMILY OUT OF THIS AND NOT TO SPEAK FOR DANNY WALLACE BECAUSE HE CAN’T SPEAK FOR HIMSELF ANYMORE PERIOD!
DON’T USE MY BROTHER IN LAW WHO DIED 9/11 EVER AGAIN Lt Robert F. Wallace YOU PEOPLE ARE SICK AND MAKE ME SICK!
Lin Kuei Posted: Sep 25 2007, 02:00 PM
logical progression
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Posts: 770
Member No.: 1,896
Joined: 2-February 07
Whomever you are, this is a matter to be brought up with wearechange, it is their video. They have a website: http://www.wearechange.org
closed.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Paul Isaac (NYsentinel)
May 27, 2009 at 11:31 am
paul isaac (NYsentinel) Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Is anyone going to look into the Danny Wallace Conspiracy?
Seems someone got some explaining to do
“As far as how Danny died, the police did say it was natural. What out family was told by the Autopsy was because of the overdose of unknown pills, sleeping pills or downer pills our family is not sure of what kind of pills he took but because of a combination of that and his heart disease which he were un aware of until his death that is what caused his death. Heart disease and taking those pills.
His girl friend Sabrina was with him the night he died. She is heavily into the 911truth.org movement.
I do not know the full story of what happened to my nephew but from what we my family were told by Danny’s girl friend Sabrina. (what i am about to tell you i am still so confused about because her story changed so much into what happened or what he or she did that night, only ******* really knows)
Version 1: Danny stayed over at her house that night in Queens and was having trouble breathing, Sabrina thought nothing of it and just let him sleep and in the morning she found him very blue and called 911.
Version 2: Danny was having trouble sleeping so he took some sleeping pills was having trouble breathing Sabrina thought nothing of it so in the morning when she woke she found him blue and not breathing.
Version 3: Sabrina and Danny had just got back from a party and Danny had bought the pills at the party from someone, took them to help him fall asleep. He took 1, then said these pills aren’t working so took about 15 or some stupid amount of these pills and later that night was having trouble breathing, Sabrina waited till morning when she woke and saw he was blue and not breathing.
Version 4: Danny had bought these pills from this kid and Sabrina is unsure how many pills he took or what kind they were but the pills had some numbers on it. In the morning She found him blue and not breathing.
Now after his death our friends were telling all different kind of things that Sabrina had told them what happened these were the versions I heard had happened.
Danny Wallace (RIP)
Son of FDNY Lt Robert Wallace E205(RIP) BKLYN NY
June 11th, 2009 at 11:56 am
# Jun 11 09 2:53 pm Paul Isaac (Sentinel) says:
Danny was a person that would listen to both sides and would let somone explain to him things, but i think his emotions and Luke telling him every day since he met him the gov did it he believed it. He really was just looking for answers.
He only knew Luke for 3-4 months, so this was all new to him. From what i know Rivera (Sabrina) manages all the money coming in for the fund raiser of selling t-shirts for the Feal good foundation and wearechange donations. she claims all the money goes go to the feal good foundation but i think it’s a lie…
To me Danny just wanted the truth and the answer to why his father died. But he got caught up in these theories instead and was steered away fro m the truth and blinded by these people.
As far as how Danny died, the police did say it was natural. What out family was told by the Autopsy was because of the overdose of unknown pills, sleeping pills or downer pills our family is not sure of what kind of pills he took but because of a combination of that and his heart disease which he were un aware of until his death that is what caused his death. Heart disease and taking those pills.
His girl friend Sabrina was with him the night he died. She is heavily into the 911truth.org movement.
I do not know the full story of what happened to my nephew but from what we my family were told by Danny’s girl friend Sabrina (what i am about to tell you i am still so confused about because her story changed so much into what happened or what he or she did that night, only Sabrina really knows)
Version 1: Danny stayed over at her house that night in Queens and was having trouble breathing, Sabrina thought nothing of it and just let him sleep and in the morning she found him very blue and called 911.
Version 2: Danny was having trouble sleeping so he took some sleeping pills was having trouble breathing Sabrina thought nothing of it so in the morning when she woke she found him blue and not breathing.
Version 3: Sabrina and Danny had just got back from a party and Danny had bought the pills at the party from someone, took them to help him fall asleep. He took 1, then said these pills aren’t working so took about 15 or some stupid amount of these pills and later that night was having trouble breathing, Sabrina waited till morning when she woke and saw he was blue and not breathing.
Version 4: Danny had bought these pills from this kid and Sabrina is unsure how many pills he took or what kind they were but the pills had some numbers on it. In the morning She found him blue and not breathing.
Now after his death our friends were telling all different kind of things that Sabrina had told them what happened these were the versions I heard had happened. So many things went in my mind theories. I wanted to put blame but I don’t know the truth. I do know she know more to what happened then she was telling us
She needs to stop lieing and claming Dannys father was her family member and we have asked them to stop speaking for Danny because he can’t speak for himself anymore.
Danny wallace (RIP)