- From Brian Downing Quig
12-9-1
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- This writer, who is identified only by
top_view@planetmail.com, knows what he is talking about. He knows what
Mike Ruppert and I knew immediately and some in this discussion are
having a very hard time grasping.
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- The Air Force spokesman confirmed that AFTER the
alerts and requests for INTERCEPTS of the aircraft were received from
FAA/ATC, orders from the HIGHEST LEVEL of the executive branch of the
federal government were received, demanding that the Air Force stand
down and NOT follow through with ESTABLISHED scramble/intercept
procedures that morning until further notice!
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- The writer is going from something he knows ---
somewhere in the executive branch a STAND DOWN ORDER was issued --- to
a pretty good guess of a probable culprit. The writer is 100% on the
mark when he discribes Cheney's deliberate confusion about the
INTERCEPT PROCEDURES.
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- Cheney needs to explain why he lied about Bush
having to make the decision to shoot down flight 77 on 9-11-01.
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- I feel that this writer is moving the discussion in
the right direction.
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- Brian Quig
CTRL@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
http://disc.server.com/Indices/149495.html
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- AF Spokesman Says FAA DID Issue Alert IMMEDIATELY On
911 - Air Force Was Prevented From Scrambling
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** TOP_VIEW **
The Big Picture
12-9-1
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- TOP_VIEW conducted a phone interview on 12.09.01
with a spokesperson for the U.S. Air Force, located in New
York.
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- This person was ordered to the Ground Zero,
Pennsylvania and Pentagon 9.11 crash sites within several days of the
events, as part of an Air Force investigative probe.
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- Crucial information was conveyed to us, related
specifically to the entire matter of IF or WHEN FAA/ATC personnel
alerted appropriate Air National Guard/Air Force units, that four
large passenger jets were significantly off course and that all
standard communications with these craft had been broken.
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- We were informed that standard procedures fully in
effect on the morning of September 11 were absolutely followed to a
"T" by U.S. Air Traffic Control personnel; that via established
channels and according to established guidelines, U.S. Air National
Guard and Air Force units -- which are ALWAYS on alert to be scrambled
for intercepts of either distressed OR suspicious and possibly hostile
aircraft 365/24/7 in these United States -- WERE DEFINITELY contacted
by FAA/ATC on 9.11 IMMEDIATELY after Air Traffic Control had become
aware of the developing situation with the jets.
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- The Air Force spokesman confirmed that after the
alerts and requests for intercepts of the aircraft were received from
FAA/ATC, orders from the HIGHEST LEVEL of the executive branch of the
federal government were received, demanding that the Air Force stand
down and NOT follow through with established scramble/intercept
procedures that morning until further notice!
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- The U.S. Air Force's hands (wings) were DELIBERATELY
TIED on the morning of September 11, until such time that the
horrifying treacherous, murderous deeds had been carried out by the
BushMob.
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- Our informant has told us in no uncertain terms that
as much as seventy percent of Armed Forces officers -- with the
NOTABLE exception of most of the U.S. Navy -- are VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED
to the treacherous, murderous actions carried out by profoundly
corrupt and demonic elements somewhere within the federal government
on 9.11, and to the wholesale treachery and demolition of the U.S.
Constitution which said elements have now undertaken.
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- It was conveyed to us that the "story" is by no
means over yet; that the fat lady has by NO means yet "sung", and that
this large percentage of the military who DO support, uphold and
defend the U.S. Constitution are NOT going let all this just "slide".
They are simply waiting for the right time, to do all within their
power to set things straight in the United States.
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- Furthermore, our source fully-concurred with the
assessment of ourselves and others: that a CRUCIAL element in the
government being able to "SELL" to the public their utterly false
fables about WHY 9.11 death planes were NOT intercepted by Air
Guard/Air Force units has to do with a deliberate, major and blatant
distortion and twisting of the truth by none other than Dick Cheney
himself; accomplished in the following manner...
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- Cheney, while being interviewed by Tim Russert on
NBC TV's 'MEET THE PRESS on September 16th, claimed that the military
needed authorization from the president before scrambling fighter jets
to intercept American Airlines Flight 77.
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- THIS IS A BIG, BIG, LIE, plain and simple.
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- For example: remember two years ago, when golf pro
Payne Stewart's small PRIVATE Lear jet went off-course and out of
communication just after takeoff in Florida?
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- Within MINUTES, on an immediate alert from the FAA,
U.S. Air Force and Air Guard jets were scrambled to intercept
Stewart's jet and see what the heck was up (not that it helped much in
that case...): "Several Air Force and Air National Guard fighter jets,
plus an AWACS radar control plane, helped the Federal Aviation
Administration track the runaway Learjet and estimate when it would
run out of fuel." --CNN, 10.26.99
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- Interceptors were in direct proximity to Stewart's
seriously messed-up aircraft within about TEN MINUTES of him having
taken off. NOBODY had to go pull Clinton away from Vice-president
Monica Lewinsky and get him to AUTHORIZE the INTERCEPT of Payne
Stewart's jet that day.
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- Moreover, according to the same CNN article:
"...officers on the Joint Chiefs were monitoring the Learjet on radar
screens inside the Pentagon's National Military Command Center. --
CNN, 10.26.99
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- Air Traffic Controllers request military intercepts
of private and commercial planes REGULARLY. Sometimes it's because
communications have broken off; sometimes it's to inform a pilot that
his plane has gone off course; other times it's to observe the
situation directly - for instance, to see who's actually flying the
plane and things like that. None of this requires presidential
approval.
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- But there's more to how Cheney twisted the truth
here regarding what is PROVABLY one of the biggest holes in the
FedGov's 9.11 tapestry of lies; since someone of even the most minimal
intelligence would realize that such intercepts are VERY common, do
NOT require any "presidential authorization" and SHOULD HAVE TAKEN
PLACE on September 11.
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- So what arch-spin-meister Cheney did was to very
subtly and cleverly fudge the distinction between a common,
often-executed intercept and a SHOOT-DOWN of an aircraft already
determined to be hostile.
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- Cheney put the entire situation in the context that
there was a terribly troubling, agonizing ethical decision to be made
whether or not to shoot down a number of passenger aircraft which
"seemed" to be hostile, and that only the president (who was after all
VERY busy reading rabbit stories to Florida schoolkids at the time)
could have authorized this shoot-down.
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- Well. first of all, there was no NEED for any order
to SHOOT DOWN; there was only a need for Air Force/Air Guard units --
which are always standing by to respond to FAA alerts about troubled
and/or suspicious aircraft -- to carry out standard intercept
procedures.
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- And keep in mind that military interceptors (or
'"escorts") already have clear "instructions to act." These
instructions can be read online in detailed manuals from the FAA and
the Department of Defense. The instructions cover everything from
minor emergencies to hijackings. If a problem is definitely serious,
high-ranking military officers from the NMCC (National Military
Command Center) in the Pentagon can take charge.
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- So: even if such intercepts had yielded information
showing that the aircraft were indeed hijacked, were under hostile
control and about to be used as guided missiles/fuel-air bombs, there
is still -- according to our Air Force contact -- no requirement that
any order to shoot down hostile aircraft must come from the president
himself. There are procedures fully in place for NMCC commanding
officers and the DOD to order such shoot-downs, when it's obvious an
attack of some kind is underway. After all, the "commander-in-chief"
might be too busy reading about rabbits to schoolkids to be bothered
making such decisions about shooting down hostile aircraft!
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- Cheney knows this probably better than anyone --
except for those military officers and personnel who were DIRECTLY SAT
ON by the Executive Branch on the morning of 9.11, until it was far
too late to take any preventive actions whatsoever. Moreover, when
jets were finally scrambled, they were deliberately scrambled from
more distant bases, making it a foregone certainty the interceptors
would NEVER be able to reach the hijacked planes in time.
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- As an example of the blatantly false/disinformative
statements made by Cheney (ONCE AGAIN!) to give some credibility to
this highly-manipulated, non-timely "response" scenario, he claimed
that there were no intercept aircraft ready for action at Andrew Air
Force Base -- only TEN MILES from the Pentagon -- on the morning of
9.11. This has been proven to be a TOTAL LIE.
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- (For a map of Washington showing the distance from
Andrews Air Force base to the Pentagon go to:
http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/andrewsmap.htm)
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- Beyond any doubt: the Executive branch of the
federal government -- whether G. W. Bush or more likely Dick Cheney
himself -- EXPRESSLY AND UNILATERALLY FORBADE Air Guard/Air Force
units from responding in a TIMELY manner to FAA alerts on the morning
of September 11, as they were fully ready to do.
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- This is the TRUTH, and large numbers of Air Force
and other military officers and personnel know it, beyond the shadow
of a doubt.
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- And no doubt THAT explains exactly WHY Cheney has
been in HIDING for so much of the past three months!!!!!
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- - - - - Here's a transcript of the MEET THE PRESS
segment where Cheney gets going muddying the waters about intercepts,
shoot-downs, time frames, (non-existent) moral considerations that
supposedly delayed a response even more, and other chaff to deflect
truth-seeking radar. Following that is a very worthwhile analysis of
Cheney's verbal/conceptual gymnastics from:
www.emporers-clothes.com/
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- "MR. RUSSERT: What's the most important decision you
think he made during the course of the day?
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- "VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, the--I suppose the
toughest decision was this question of whether or not we would
intercept incoming commercial aircraft.
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- "MR. RUSSERT: And you decided?
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- "VICE PRES. CHENEY: We decided to do it. We'd, in
effect, put a flying combat air patrol up over the city; F-16s with an
AWACS, which is an airborne radar system, and tanker support so they
could stay up a long time...
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- "It doesn't do any good to put up a combat air
patrol if you don't give them instructions to act, if, in fact, they
feel it's appropriate.
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- "MR. RUSSERT: So if the United States government
became aware that a hijacked commercial airline was destined for the
White House or the Capitol, we would take the plane down?
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- "VICE PRES. CHENEY: Yes. The president made the
decision...that if the plane would not divert...as a last resort, our
pilots were authorized to take them out. Now, people say, you know,
that's a horrendous decision to make. Well, it is. You've got an
airplane full of American citizens, civilians, captured
by...terrorists, headed and are you going to, in fact, shoot it down,
obviously, and kill all those Americans on board?
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- "...It's a presidential-level decision, and the
president made, I think, exactly the right call in this case, to say,
"I wished we'd had combat air patrol up over New York." -NBC, 'Meet
the Press' 16 September 2001 (1)
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- * * * FROM:
http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/indict-1.htm
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- Note that Mr. Cheney has performed a sleight of hand
here.
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- First he said, "the toughest decision was...whether
we would intercept incoming commercial aircraft."
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- Later he said, "The president made the decision...
that if the plane would not divert as a last resort, our pilots were
authorized to take them out..." that is, "shoot it down."
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- But "intercept": and "shoot it down" DO NOT mean the
same thing.
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- "intercept (nter-spt1) verb, transitive intercepted,
intercepting, intercepts 1. a. To stop, deflect, or interrupt the
progress or intended course of" (From 'American Heritage
Dictionary')
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- "shootdown (sht1doun) noun "Destruction of a flying
aircraft by a missile attack or gunfire." (From 'American Heritage
Dictionary')
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- Mr. Cheney deliberately confused these terms to stop
people from asking: why weren't the hijacked jets intercepted?
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- Since "stopping, deflecting, or interrupting the
progress or intended course of" a hijacked airplane does not
necessarily involve violence, there could be no moral obstacle to
scrambling fighter jets to intercept Flight 77. Therefore Mr. Cheney
shifted quickly to the morally charged question of whether to shoot
down "an airplane full of American citizens". By creating this
emotional link between interception (not necessarily violent) and
shooting down a commercial jet (very violent), Cheney hoped to create
sympathy for a President forced to make this "horrendous" choice: to
intercept or not to intercept.
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- <SNIP
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- When dealing with potentially hostile situations,
escorts can adopt aggressive behavior:
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- "Small Private Plane Ordered to Land in Vicinity of
Bush Ranch"
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- "A small private plane flying unauthorized in the
vicinity of President Bush's ranch near Crawford was ordered by the
military to land Thursday, a sheriff's deputy said....
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- "The Federal Aviation Administration declared that
the plane was unauthorized and ordered its occupants detained, Plemons
said. At that point military officials, flying in two jets beside the
plane, got on the pilot's radio frequency and ordered the Cessna to
land...
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- "The plane landed on a private landing strip near
State Highway 6, about eight miles from the Bush ranch near
Crawford....
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- "In [a second incident, in] Wood County, Sheriff's
senior Dispatcher Rodney Mize said a private plane was forced down by
two military pilots in A-10 Warthog jets about 11:30 a.m. The jets
flew one above and one below until the private plane's pilot landed at
Wisener Field near Mineola." --'AP,' 13 September 2001 (12)
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- The 'Boston Globe' reported that: "[Marine Corps
Major Mike] Snyder, the NORAD spokesman, said its fighters routinely
intercept aircraft.
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- "When planes are intercepted, they typically are
handled with a graduated response. The approaching fighter may rock
its wingtips to attract the pilot's attention, or make a pass in front
of the aircraft. Eventually, it can fire tracer rounds in the
airplane's path, or, under certain circumstances, down it with a
missile." --'Boston Globe,' 15 September 2001 (13)
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- Now, let us return to Mr. Cheney and his interview
on 'MEET THE PRESS.'
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- As you will recall, he said:
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- "It doesn't do any good to put up a combat air
patrol if you don't give them instructions to act, if, in fact, they
feel it's appropriate."
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- Mr. Cheney is attempting to misinform by pretending
that intercept pilots need 'instructions' from the President, when he
knows perfectly well that clear instructions and a whole
organizational network exist to handle intercept emergencies.
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- Moreover, Mr. Cheney's implicit argument - that
there is no point in sending up an escort unless the pilot has
clearance to shoot down a commercial jet - is absurd. Why would such a
decision have to be made in advance of scrambling the escort? Even if
an airliner has been taken over by a terrorist with a suicide mission,
how could Mr. Cheney, Mr. Bush or anyone else other than God Himself
possibly predict how the hijacker would respond to an intercept by
military jets? Even if a hijacker were ready to die for the glory of
crashing into the Pentagon, does that mean he would also be ready to
die for the glory of ignoring a military pilot's order to land?
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- So even if the military had no authority to shoot
down Flight 77, why not send up escorts planes? Isn't that in fact how
police and the military routinely handle hijack situations - by
mobilizing a potentially overwhelming force in the hope of getting the
hijacker to surrender?
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- Why, as Mr. Cheney claims, would there have been "no
point" in trying this tactic in the case of Flight 77? Weren't many
human lives at stake? Isn't that "a point"?
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- A DEFENSE THAT BACKFIRES
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- What about the rest of Mr. Cheney's remarks, his
contention that only
- President Bush could authorize the military to
actually shoot down a
- hijacked plane? In all probability this is true. But
as we shall see in
- a later section, this comment, as well as other
things Mr. Cheney said
- on 'MEET THE PRESS,' will prove damning to George W.
Bush when he goes
- on trial for treason.
-
- Summary of evidence is CONTINUED IN PART 1, SECTION
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- FOOTNOTES:
- For a map of Washington showing the distance from
Andrews Air Force base
- to the Pentagon go to:
- http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/andrewsmap.htm
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- (1) 'NBC, Meet the Press' (10:00 AM ET) Sunday 16
September 2001.
- Full transcript at:
- http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/629714.asp?cp1=1
- http://emperors-clothes.com/9-11backups/nbcmp.htm
-
- (2) Regarding rules governing IFR requirements, see
FAA Order 7400.2E
- 'Procedures for Handling Airspace Matters,'
Effective Date: December 7,
- 2000 (Includes Change 1, effective July 7, 2001),
Chapter 14-1-2.
- Full text posted at:
- http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/AIR/air1401.html#14-1-2
-
- (3) For a clear and detailed description of flight
plans, fixes, and Air
- Traffic Control, see: 'Direct-To Requirements' by
Gregory Dennis and
- Emina Torlak at:
- http://sdg.lcs.mit.edu/atc/D2Requirements.htm
-
- (4) 'CNN,' 26 October 1999 "Pentagon never
considered downing Stewart's
- Learjet," Web posted at: 8:27 p.m. EDT (0027 GMT)
Full text posted at:
- http://www.cnn.com/US/9910/26/shootdown/
- Backup at:
- http://emperors-clothes.com/9-11backups/cnnlearjet.htm
-
- (5) FAA 'Aeronautical Information Manual: Official
Guide to Basic Flight
- Information and Air Traffic Control (ATC)
Procedures,' (Includes Change
- 3 Effective: July 12, 2001) Chapter 5-6-4
"Interception Signals" Full
- text posted at:
- http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/AIM/Chap5/aim0506.html#5-6-4
-
- (6) FAA Order 7110.65M 'Air Traffic Control'
(Includes Change 3
- Effective: July 12, 2001), Chapter 10-2-5 "Emergency
Situations" Full
- text posted at:
- http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/ATC/Chp10/atc1002.html#10-2-5
-
- (7) FAA Order 7110.65M 'Air Traffic Control'
(Includes Change 3
- Effective: July 12, 2001), Chapter 10-1-1 "Emergency
Determinations"
- Full text posted at:
- http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/ATC/Chp10/atc1001.html#10-1-1
-
- (8) FAA Order 7610.4J 'Special Military Operations'
(Effective Date:
- November 3, 1998; Includes: Change 1, effective July
3, 2000; Change 2,
- effective July 12, 2001), Chapter 4, Section 5, "Air
Defense Liaison
- Officers (ADLO's)"
- Full text posted at:
- http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/MIL/Ch4/mil0405.html#Section%205
-
- (9) FAA Order 7610.4J 'Special Military Operations'
(Effective Date:
- November 3, 1998; Includes: Change 1, effective July
3, 2000; Change 2,
- effective July 12, 2001), Chapter 7, Section 1-2,
"Escort of Hijacked
- Aircraft: Requests for Service"
- Full text posted at:
- http://faa.gov/ATpubs/MIL/Ch7/mil0701.html#7-1-2
-
- (10) 'ABCNews,' 25 October 1999 "Runaway Plane
Crashes in S.D.; Golfer,
- at Least Four Others Killed," by Geraldine
Sealey
- Full text posted at:
- http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/plane102599.html
- Backup at:
- http://emperors-clothes.com/9-11backups/abclearjet.htm
-
- (11) 'Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Instruction 3610.01A,' 1
- June 2001, "Aircraft Piracy (Hijacking) and
Destruction of Derelict
- Airborne Objects," 4.Policy (page 1)
- PDF available at:
- http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/cjcsd/cjcsi/3610_01a.pdf
- Backup at:
- http://emperors-clothes.com/9-11backups/3610_01a.pdf
-
- (12) 'The Associated Press State & Local Wire'
13 September 2001,
- Thursday, BC cycle, "Small private plane ordered to
land in vicinity of
- Bush ranch"
- Full text posted at:
- http://emperors-clothes.com/9-11backups/bushranch.htm
-
- (13) 'The Boston Globe,' Saturday 15 September 2001
Third Edition Page
- A1, "Facing Terror Attack's Aftermath: Otis Fighter
Jets Scrambled Too
- Late to Halt The Attacks" by Glen Johnson.
- Full text posted at:
- http://emperors-clothes.com/9-11backups/bg915.htm
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