What has crude oil got to do with gold prices?

Devendra Nevgi,
Economic Times
Sunday, Aug 3, 2008

Crude oil prices in recent times threatened to breach the $150 per barrel mark, and later fell to $123 levels, clocking an appreciation of almost 30% in the year. In fact, higher oil prices have been sending shivers down the stock markets worldwide, as if the recent global financial crisis was not enough to unnerve them.

Back home, Indian stocks are down by around 30% in the current year. Inflation has already reached double digits at 11.98% and is showing no signs of respite, adding fuel to the fire.

I would start with an interesting conversation I heard recently. I happened to be at an oil trader’s dealing room. I asked the chief dealer, “What’s happening to oil? It is down 20% from its peak. Will you buy now?” He answered: “Oil’s down due to speculative unwinding of long positions and a growth scare in developed countries, which might result in lower demand for the scarce commodity.”

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He then called someone in Iran, a member of OPEC, an association which controls around 40% of the global oil output. I heard him saying, “So the skirmishes between Israel and Iran continue? And the usual problems in Iraq, Nigeria, etc, also continue with supplies remaining vulnerable to serious disruptions. US stockpiles are down, no new oil discoveries.” He hung up the line. I was sure that his next reaction would be to buy more crude oil, since according to him, supply remained vulnerable.

Surprisingly, his next call was to someone in South Africa: “How’s the mining industry doing? Any increase in the output in gold? Will the gold mines continue to face power disruptions from Eskom?” The response from the other side was “no” for the first question and “maybe” for the second one.

He said: “Ok, buy gold worth $5 million.” I was shocked, and was compelled to ask: “Hey, after your last phone call, I was convinced that you would immediately place orders to buy more crude oil. Where does gold come into the picture? He was grinning from ear to ear and proceeded to show me a chart.

He asked me: “What do higher crude oil prices do to the general price levels in the world?” I said: “Of course, higher crude oil prices fuel inflation, since most of the demand for oil is inelastic.” He further probed: “Is gold a kind of proxy currency?” I said: “Yes. In fact, in the 1900s, many countries in the world had gold standards — gold was used as a medium of exchange.”

Let’s presume that gold was the currency now. How much gold would be required to buy a barrel of crude oil? Or how many barrels of crude oil will be required to buy an ounce of gold? The answer is around 7.3 barrels of crude oil would fetch one ounce of gold. This ratio is known as the ‘gold-oil ratio’.

He continued his questions: “Paper currencies like US dollar tend to lose their purchasing power over the years, why?” I replied: “Simple — due to inflation.” As time passes, paper currencies can’t buy the same amount of oil which you could have bought years ago. And the final words of wisdom came from him: “But gold is different.

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7 Responses to “What has crude oil got to do with gold prices?”

1. Crazy Carl Says:
   August 3rd, 2008 at 11:56 am

   Good find on an article. I thank Alex for the fact of enlightenment on silver and gold. Althought I have not bothered buying from his friends. The problem is I have been buying to much of silver and not enough ammo hehehe.

2. Pete from Missouri Says:
   August 4th, 2008 at 12:40 am

   Yeah, Carl, its true … gold and silver must be backed with brass and lead.

3. microchipmonk Says:
   August 4th, 2008 at 2:51 am

   Like a stuborn mule being coaxed with a carrot …Humans too a coaxed with carrots guised as gold .
   As the Wise Indians stated .. not until thelast river has been poisoned and the last tree cut down .. will people realise they can not eat money.

4. WIZARD-OF-OZ Says:
   August 4th, 2008 at 5:12 am

   Pete is right. Brass is lead is the only way to protect gold and silver.

5. Scott Fox Says:
   August 4th, 2008 at 8:23 am

   You guys have really got to stop posting mainstream economic analysis. They might have one or two accurate tidbits, but on the whole they are chock full of misinformation.

6. GARKO FACTOR Says:
   August 4th, 2008 at 2:40 pm

   if you are as sick of the bad news about oil and gas prices as I am then go to http://mywater4gasengine.com for good news and instructions on how to fight back.

7. illegalalienhunter Says:
   August 4th, 2008 at 6:45 pm

   Yes brass and lead to protect your gold. That nonsense about buying ETF’s in this article is that. They will be insured with fiat money known as dollars. Buy it store it and protect with brass and lead. I just bought 1000 more rounds of 45 ammo today.