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		<title>By: amrev360</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dragon Eye: Their answer was “Capitalism is the problem, Communism is the solution.”;

Listen, Anarchists, whether Green, Syndicalist, Anarcho-Communist, Pink, Black, w/e All Anarchists agree that all forms of hierarchy whether capitalist or communist screw the working class. Anarchism is a working class movement unlike capitalism which only socializes losses while keeping gains private. I find it disgusting that an article calls those smashing in banker&#039;s windows as agents of the state. They didn&#039;t hurt anyone, they didn&#039;t destroy a mom and pop shop.. they broke the windows of one of the largest banks in London. Who do you think is leading the world wide revolution right now? Ron Paul? Although I have some respect for Dr. Paul, it is the global Anarchist movement that is leading the way for change. Look at the participatory democratic movement in South America. Look at Greece. Look at your local anti-poverty organizations. Almost all of them are anarchist. Anarchism means that you reject all forms of political, social, government, economic hierarchy and that organization needs to give everyone an equal voice.

Please educate yourselves before writing off working class anarchists as &quot;agent provocateurs&quot;. Anarchists are one of the primary targets of the state currently. We have numerous political prisoners in every nation. One of the first political groups to be lynched by the communists after the Bolshevik revolution, after the Communist revolution in China, were the Anarchists. Anarchists have fought the fascists in Spain when the capitalists were supporting Hitler and Mussolini.

Anarchists take up a variety of perspectives regarding social change. Some advocate peace, some advocate revolt, some advocate sabotage and property damage. Insurrectionists tend to throw a few more petrol bombs and rocks than others, but I can assure you plenty of insurrectionists are just as educated if not more so than yourself about the system. The kids in Greece turned Athens upside down faster than you could say &quot;Give me liberty or give me death&quot; after that 15 year old boy (WHO WAS ANARCHIST) was murdered (by the POLICE). I constantly have to read rednecks, KKK, and Neo-Nazis on this website comment about how they&#039;re ready for revolution, but in the end they do nothing and they bitch when they see real men and women doing something. I&#039;ve already spoken with Alex Jones and his friends about the Anarchists, and they have never had an open mind regarding Anarchist political thought as it obviously does not fit in with their conspiratorial illuminati theory. You&#039;d rather believe a handful of Satan worshiping elites fucked the planet for the last 8,000 years instead of admitting that the entire system is the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dragon Eye: Their answer was “Capitalism is the problem, Communism is the solution.”;</p>
<p>Listen, Anarchists, whether Green, Syndicalist, Anarcho-Communist, Pink, Black, w/e All Anarchists agree that all forms of hierarchy whether capitalist or communist screw the working class. Anarchism is a working class movement unlike capitalism which only socializes losses while keeping gains private. I find it disgusting that an article calls those smashing in banker&#8217;s windows as agents of the state. They didn&#8217;t hurt anyone, they didn&#8217;t destroy a mom and pop shop.. they broke the windows of one of the largest banks in London. Who do you think is leading the world wide revolution right now? Ron Paul? Although I have some respect for Dr. Paul, it is the global Anarchist movement that is leading the way for change. Look at the participatory democratic movement in South America. Look at Greece. Look at your local anti-poverty organizations. Almost all of them are anarchist. Anarchism means that you reject all forms of political, social, government, economic hierarchy and that organization needs to give everyone an equal voice.</p>
<p>Please educate yourselves before writing off working class anarchists as &#8220;agent provocateurs&#8221;. Anarchists are one of the primary targets of the state currently. We have numerous political prisoners in every nation. One of the first political groups to be lynched by the communists after the Bolshevik revolution, after the Communist revolution in China, were the Anarchists. Anarchists have fought the fascists in Spain when the capitalists were supporting Hitler and Mussolini.</p>
<p>Anarchists take up a variety of perspectives regarding social change. Some advocate peace, some advocate revolt, some advocate sabotage and property damage. Insurrectionists tend to throw a few more petrol bombs and rocks than others, but I can assure you plenty of insurrectionists are just as educated if not more so than yourself about the system. The kids in Greece turned Athens upside down faster than you could say &#8220;Give me liberty or give me death&#8221; after that 15 year old boy (WHO WAS ANARCHIST) was murdered (by the POLICE). I constantly have to read rednecks, KKK, and Neo-Nazis on this website comment about how they&#8217;re ready for revolution, but in the end they do nothing and they bitch when they see real men and women doing something. I&#8217;ve already spoken with Alex Jones and his friends about the Anarchists, and they have never had an open mind regarding Anarchist political thought as it obviously does not fit in with their conspiratorial illuminati theory. You&#8217;d rather believe a handful of Satan worshiping elites fucked the planet for the last 8,000 years instead of admitting that the entire system is the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: salome</title>
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		<dc:creator>salome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why all the prOfanity ?</description>
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		<title>By: salome</title>
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		<dc:creator>salome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when you understand that the eurOnils love riots,
you&#039;ll get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when you understand that the eurOnils love riots,<br />
you&#8217;ll get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dragon's Eye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dragon's Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooops!!!

Erratum: When I said, &quot;I’ve suspected the “Black Bloc” for many years of being behind virtually all of the major ‘riots’ and major protests.&quot;

I meant, &quot;I’ve suspected the “Black Bloc” for many years of being behind virtually all of the major ‘riots’ ** at ** major protests.&quot;

I got loopy for a moment and forgot to check my post before submitting!</description>
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<p>Erratum: When I said, &#8220;I’ve suspected the “Black Bloc” for many years of being behind virtually all of the major ‘riots’ and major protests.&#8221;</p>
<p>I meant, &#8220;I’ve suspected the “Black Bloc” for many years of being behind virtually all of the major ‘riots’ ** at ** major protests.&#8221;</p>
<p>I got loopy for a moment and forgot to check my post before submitting!</p>
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		<title>By: Dragon's Eye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dragon's Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve suspected the &quot;Black Bloc&quot; for many years of being behind virtually all of the major &#039;riots&#039; and major protests. I have even met a few of their members when they were here in my home town as we were protesting the IMF and WTO. These folks really either don&#039;t have a clue or don&#039;t even care about the realities that are going on! I tried to have friendly debates with some of them about what we as a people could do to solve some of these problems quickly. Their answer was &quot;Capitalism is the problem, Communism is the solution.&quot; I tried in vain to educate these folks that Communism has failed at every instance that it was attempted, implemented, and executed. I cited numerous historic examples of where Communism is an ABSOLUTE FAILURE of a system. It is too idealistic and relies too much on centralized planning rather than true individual participation. Their answers to those statements was summarily, &quot; You&#039;re wrong! Communism, good! Capitalism, bad! &quot;

What we are dealing with, in concerns with the BLACK-BLOC, is the fact that these folks don&#039;t exercise &quot;critical-thinking&quot; skills, and they have no idea that their brainwashing jobs were designed to keep them as ignorant, follower sheep! You can not reason with these people! They just don&#039;t care! The only way to deal with these folks is to PEACEABLY corral them off and away from the demonstration; separating them from the rest of the peaceful demonstrators, and basically &quot;out&quot; them in full public view. It also helps to have more people with video recorders that are audio capable to capture the REAL story when something &quot;breaks out&quot;.

This is what our future is going to look like in this world, if we don&#039;t do some intelligent things about it now! These types of criminal organizations have outlived their usefulness by now! The day may come when simply saying &quot;no&quot; to anyone will cost you dearly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve suspected the &#8220;Black Bloc&#8221; for many years of being behind virtually all of the major &#8216;riots&#8217; and major protests. I have even met a few of their members when they were here in my home town as we were protesting the IMF and WTO. These folks really either don&#8217;t have a clue or don&#8217;t even care about the realities that are going on! I tried to have friendly debates with some of them about what we as a people could do to solve some of these problems quickly. Their answer was &#8220;Capitalism is the problem, Communism is the solution.&#8221; I tried in vain to educate these folks that Communism has failed at every instance that it was attempted, implemented, and executed. I cited numerous historic examples of where Communism is an ABSOLUTE FAILURE of a system. It is too idealistic and relies too much on centralized planning rather than true individual participation. Their answers to those statements was summarily, &#8221; You&#8217;re wrong! Communism, good! Capitalism, bad! &#8221;</p>
<p>What we are dealing with, in concerns with the BLACK-BLOC, is the fact that these folks don&#8217;t exercise &#8220;critical-thinking&#8221; skills, and they have no idea that their brainwashing jobs were designed to keep them as ignorant, follower sheep! You can not reason with these people! They just don&#8217;t care! The only way to deal with these folks is to PEACEABLY corral them off and away from the demonstration; separating them from the rest of the peaceful demonstrators, and basically &#8220;out&#8221; them in full public view. It also helps to have more people with video recorders that are audio capable to capture the REAL story when something &#8220;breaks out&#8221;.</p>
<p>This is what our future is going to look like in this world, if we don&#8217;t do some intelligent things about it now! These types of criminal organizations have outlived their usefulness by now! The day may come when simply saying &#8220;no&#8221; to anyone will cost you dearly.</p>
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		<title>By: a break, please</title>
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		<dc:creator>a break, please</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite the simplistic view- &quot;The Joos did it.&quot; There&#039;s a lot more to it than that, friend, and there&#039;s plenty of evidence to show such. Time to broaden your mind a bit. 

Being fearful isn&#039;t the issue, waking up to reality, is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite the simplistic view- &#8220;The Joos did it.&#8221; There&#8217;s a lot more to it than that, friend, and there&#8217;s plenty of evidence to show such. Time to broaden your mind a bit. </p>
<p>Being fearful isn&#8217;t the issue, waking up to reality, is.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don&#039;t belittle what happened in London by claiming it was a fake riot. Many of the people in that &quot;Riot&quot; were innocent civilians asking to leave the cordon, we were coralled like animals for 8 hours by riot police, and tempers did fray, many of the people trading punches and throwing missiles had lost their cool after being beaten and abused by police for several hours. I personally treated two very real head injuries. The people there were very scared, and angry. We did not know what the authorities were going to do to us, people were finally allowed to leave escorted 1 by 1 after 8 hours of being in the corall. We were unable to see where people were being taken, and unable to ascertain what the police were doing to them when they got out of sight. Anti Terrorism laws were invoked to force people under threat of arrest and further detention, to submit themselves to be videoed by facial recognition systems, searched, and demanded to provide name and address, before they were finally either detained or released. Most of the mainstream news channels have broadcast a skewed version of events, with only Al-Jazeera coming close to capturing the truth. The bank window was put through by fired up teenagers being egged on by a very angry crowd chanting &quot;Burn the Bank&quot;. However the bank was only attacked after the first round of beatings from the police, which resulted in the first volley of missiles being thrown in response. The only suspicious elements to the events were the bank window being un protected, and the mounted riot police standing back, however it&#039;s likely they held back due to the fact that they would become trapped on all 3 sides, by very angry people. The windows being smashed was inevitable, there was no way that of around 300 people in that alley, that one person wouldn&#039;t start the ball rolling. As for the press, yes they were there, but they were everywhere, quite conveniently, they were generally taking most of the beatings from the baton charges, as they were always in the thick of the action, to get the shots they wanted. The look on the police officers face in this picture says a lot more than I can, 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/daniel_c_c/3405196193/sizes/l/

They were cornered and had to run the gauntlet to safety, surrounded by very angry people when they tried to split the crowd in two (unsuccessfully).
It was real, as were the abuses of human rights in the resultant impromtu detention camp.  I suggest that you find out about the police tactic of &quot;Kettling&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t belittle what happened in London by claiming it was a fake riot. Many of the people in that &#8220;Riot&#8221; were innocent civilians asking to leave the cordon, we were coralled like animals for 8 hours by riot police, and tempers did fray, many of the people trading punches and throwing missiles had lost their cool after being beaten and abused by police for several hours. I personally treated two very real head injuries. The people there were very scared, and angry. We did not know what the authorities were going to do to us, people were finally allowed to leave escorted 1 by 1 after 8 hours of being in the corall. We were unable to see where people were being taken, and unable to ascertain what the police were doing to them when they got out of sight. Anti Terrorism laws were invoked to force people under threat of arrest and further detention, to submit themselves to be videoed by facial recognition systems, searched, and demanded to provide name and address, before they were finally either detained or released. Most of the mainstream news channels have broadcast a skewed version of events, with only Al-Jazeera coming close to capturing the truth. The bank window was put through by fired up teenagers being egged on by a very angry crowd chanting &#8220;Burn the Bank&#8221;. However the bank was only attacked after the first round of beatings from the police, which resulted in the first volley of missiles being thrown in response. The only suspicious elements to the events were the bank window being un protected, and the mounted riot police standing back, however it&#8217;s likely they held back due to the fact that they would become trapped on all 3 sides, by very angry people. The windows being smashed was inevitable, there was no way that of around 300 people in that alley, that one person wouldn&#8217;t start the ball rolling. As for the press, yes they were there, but they were everywhere, quite conveniently, they were generally taking most of the beatings from the baton charges, as they were always in the thick of the action, to get the shots they wanted. The look on the police officers face in this picture says a lot more than I can,<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/daniel_c_c/3405196193/sizes/l/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/d.....3/sizes/l/</a></p>
<p>They were cornered and had to run the gauntlet to safety, surrounded by very angry people when they tried to split the crowd in two (unsuccessfully).<br />
It was real, as were the abuses of human rights in the resultant impromtu detention camp.  I suggest that you find out about the police tactic of &#8220;Kettling&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: e</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuck you. Police don&#039;t need a pretext to attack &#039;peaceful&#039; marchers.  Your ridiculous article assumes a complete lack of agency on behalf of people, not to mention that it de-legitimizes what real people are actually doing by pretending that we&#039;re hired thugs.  Would you suggest that the anarchist revolt happening in Greece is the state contributing to it&#039;s own destruction there too? or what about the anarchist influenced uprising in Oaxaca, Mexico in 2006? Are you really suggesting that people around the world don&#039;t actually have any agency for revolt and revolution?
Why don&#039;t you take a step back and look at how incredibly ineffective so-called peaceful protests against capitalism are and take some accountability for just how fucked up our world is.  
Your video clip from FOX News- FOX fucking News of all places- stating that some people can&#039;t say what they&#039;re for is utter bullshit.  You try explaining your political philosophy in a soundbite, or trying to explain anarchism to FOX.  I&#039;m surprised anyone would talk to them in the first place!
Have the police used provocateurs before disguised as anarchists? Yes. The video from Canada is a good example of that. Does the situation you point out in the beginning sound sketchy? Yes. But to suggest that Seattle or any other big anti-capitalist demonstrations were run by the police is insulting.  Stop worrying about what the middle class TV heads who aren&#039;t going to participate anyway think and start getting out there and making some real change.  Your sectarian bullshit along ideological lines is naive and insulting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck you. Police don&#8217;t need a pretext to attack &#8216;peaceful&#8217; marchers.  Your ridiculous article assumes a complete lack of agency on behalf of people, not to mention that it de-legitimizes what real people are actually doing by pretending that we&#8217;re hired thugs.  Would you suggest that the anarchist revolt happening in Greece is the state contributing to it&#8217;s own destruction there too? or what about the anarchist influenced uprising in Oaxaca, Mexico in 2006? Are you really suggesting that people around the world don&#8217;t actually have any agency for revolt and revolution?<br />
Why don&#8217;t you take a step back and look at how incredibly ineffective so-called peaceful protests against capitalism are and take some accountability for just how fucked up our world is.<br />
Your video clip from FOX News- FOX fucking News of all places- stating that some people can&#8217;t say what they&#8217;re for is utter bullshit.  You try explaining your political philosophy in a soundbite, or trying to explain anarchism to FOX.  I&#8217;m surprised anyone would talk to them in the first place!<br />
Have the police used provocateurs before disguised as anarchists? Yes. The video from Canada is a good example of that. Does the situation you point out in the beginning sound sketchy? Yes. But to suggest that Seattle or any other big anti-capitalist demonstrations were run by the police is insulting.  Stop worrying about what the middle class TV heads who aren&#8217;t going to participate anyway think and start getting out there and making some real change.  Your sectarian bullshit along ideological lines is naive and insulting.</p>
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		<title>By: Merrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;seemed to have little problem with allowing a group of violent black bloc anarchists smash up the RBS building&lt;/i&gt;

You fail to understand British police strategy in public order situations. They do not want to defend all property, they want to have control of an area. If they are overwhelmed, they retreat to where they can form a line of control.

They had just done this at the time you talk about, and ceded the ground that included the branch of RBS.

RBS was indeed announced as a target in advance - the RBS headquarters which saw extensive policing and batoning of peaceful protesters.

&lt;i&gt;if you wear black hoods and scarves, smash up private property and provoke police, then that’s absolutely fine and you’ll be left largely untouched.&lt;/i&gt;

Did you see any other footage of the day? Police repeatedly charged into the crowd, batoning anyone at the front. This included a disproportionately large amount of black bloc who were, of course, near the front throwing things at police.

&lt;i&gt;it was the only one in the street not boarded up&lt;/i&gt;

This is simply untrue. Check out footage of the crowd coming into the plaza.

&lt;i&gt;the police stood back and let them do pretty much whatever they liked, which is highly suspicious within itself&lt;/i&gt;

Not when you understand that they were overwhelmed at this point and were trying to form solid static lines around a crowd that was growing and moving.

&lt;i&gt;this particular black bloc sect are at best completely infiltrated by provocateurs who can routinely be relied upon to provide the media with violent footage&lt;/i&gt;

&#039;Infiltration&#039; implies being in the group under false pretences. The black bloc&#039;s methods differ from those who don&#039;t break things, but that doesn&#039;t mean their motives are any less genuine.

&lt;i&gt;a lot of these people are merely hired thugs&lt;/i&gt;

Are you really saying they are paid? There is no other meaning of the word &#039;hired&#039;. Are you saying that the only people with genuine grievance are those wouldn&#039;t damage property? And that anyone who would damage property is in the pay of the authorities? Do you have any evidence at all for this astonishing claim about that black bloc?

It having happened a few times in the past is no indication of it being true in all cases. As the McLibel trial established, at one point London Greenpeace meetings were over 50% undercover cops and investigators. does that mean we can say half of people at all anti-capitalist meetings are infiltrators?

Certainly, the police - assisted by media fetishisation of violence - find even minor property damage useful to discredit a protest. that doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s the motivation of those commiting the damage.

How about if I allege that you and anyone else who demonises black bloc is in the pay of the authorities, trying to divide a movement?

&lt;i&gt;they have no idea, as the video below highlights&lt;/i&gt;

Wow, someone on Fox saying anti-capitalists are stupid? It must be true then.

Meanwhile, two protesters (and someone from Oxfam) were on the BBC being very articulate and specific in arguing with a British government minister.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NqCWlWhIxU

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNSD_BzGjw8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>seemed to have little problem with allowing a group of violent black bloc anarchists smash up the RBS building</i></p>
<p>You fail to understand British police strategy in public order situations. They do not want to defend all property, they want to have control of an area. If they are overwhelmed, they retreat to where they can form a line of control.</p>
<p>They had just done this at the time you talk about, and ceded the ground that included the branch of RBS.</p>
<p>RBS was indeed announced as a target in advance &#8211; the RBS headquarters which saw extensive policing and batoning of peaceful protesters.</p>
<p><i>if you wear black hoods and scarves, smash up private property and provoke police, then that’s absolutely fine and you’ll be left largely untouched.</i></p>
<p>Did you see any other footage of the day? Police repeatedly charged into the crowd, batoning anyone at the front. This included a disproportionately large amount of black bloc who were, of course, near the front throwing things at police.</p>
<p><i>it was the only one in the street not boarded up</i></p>
<p>This is simply untrue. Check out footage of the crowd coming into the plaza.</p>
<p><i>the police stood back and let them do pretty much whatever they liked, which is highly suspicious within itself</i></p>
<p>Not when you understand that they were overwhelmed at this point and were trying to form solid static lines around a crowd that was growing and moving.</p>
<p><i>this particular black bloc sect are at best completely infiltrated by provocateurs who can routinely be relied upon to provide the media with violent footage</i></p>
<p>&#8216;Infiltration&#8217; implies being in the group under false pretences. The black bloc&#8217;s methods differ from those who don&#8217;t break things, but that doesn&#8217;t mean their motives are any less genuine.</p>
<p><i>a lot of these people are merely hired thugs</i></p>
<p>Are you really saying they are paid? There is no other meaning of the word &#8216;hired&#8217;. Are you saying that the only people with genuine grievance are those wouldn&#8217;t damage property? And that anyone who would damage property is in the pay of the authorities? Do you have any evidence at all for this astonishing claim about that black bloc?</p>
<p>It having happened a few times in the past is no indication of it being true in all cases. As the McLibel trial established, at one point London Greenpeace meetings were over 50% undercover cops and investigators. does that mean we can say half of people at all anti-capitalist meetings are infiltrators?</p>
<p>Certainly, the police &#8211; assisted by media fetishisation of violence &#8211; find even minor property damage useful to discredit a protest. that doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s the motivation of those commiting the damage.</p>
<p>How about if I allege that you and anyone else who demonises black bloc is in the pay of the authorities, trying to divide a movement?</p>
<p><i>they have no idea, as the video below highlights</i></p>
<p>Wow, someone on Fox saying anti-capitalists are stupid? It must be true then.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, two protesters (and someone from Oxfam) were on the BBC being very articulate and specific in arguing with a British government minister.</p>
<p>Part 1: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NqCWlWhIxU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NqCWlWhIxU</a></p>
<p>Part 2: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNSD_BzGjw8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNSD_BzGjw8</a></p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see any censorship going on. Stop complaining, guys. Focus on the real issues. Unless you have a goal in trying to make the comment section look bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see any censorship going on. Stop complaining, guys. Focus on the real issues. Unless you have a goal in trying to make the comment section look bad.</p>
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