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‘Will you open fire on UK citizens’ Army personnel being asked
PJC Journal
Sunday, April 26, 2009
In a stunning conversation with a friend, who is a serving member of the Armed Forces, over the weekend, it was revealed that transfers to regiments and other units in the UK on home duties are being undertaken by the MOD based upon whether an individual was prepared to ‘open fire’ on UK citizens during civil disturbances.
I found this long and extracted conversation to be both bizarre and frightening. I will state at this point that he is someone that I have known for years, and trust implicitly. The fact that service personnel are actually being asked in special briefing sessions whether they would fire on their own nationals indicates that the rumours about the Army being put on standby are indeed very true.
As if to add weight to this, it was reported yesterday as a tag on a posting about UKIP by Richard North on EUReferendum that plans for Army involvement were well advanced:
The implications of putting the Army on the streets, though, are horrendous. Currently, the Army is riding on the crest of a wave of public approval but, as it did in Northern Ireland, sentiment can very quickly turn. The ramifications for the campaign in Afghanistan might be significant. An Army which is sent out against its own people is not likely to attract much support for its other activities.
But there is not much prospect of the Army disobeying orders. As we saw in the 2001 Foot and Mouth epidemic, it went to work with a will, engaging in illegal activities, intimidating ordinary people and conspiring with the civil authorities to enforce false arrest. It will do so again if ordered, with the back-up this time of the Civil Contingencies Act which makes legal much of what was illegal back in 2001.
It goes a long way to explain why our servicemen and women are not getting the equipment they need in the war zones, lack of transport, lack of helicopters, lack of personal protection equipment. We know for instance that there are several hundred Italian made soft personnel vehicles in storage in the UK for use here, bought by the MoD to replace the snatch Land Rovers, but never sent to Iraq or Afghanistan, and the fleet of 8 Chinooks that was due to be dispatched this month are now to be kept in the UK.
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We believe that this Government is looking for that confrontation with the people in order to invoke the Civil Contingencies Act and make use of the plethora of authoritarian laws it has prepared over the 12 years in control.
It continues to introduce new rules, rulings and guidelines on a daily basis designed specifically to inflame the anger in the population, hoping that they will eventually snap and take to the streets.
Armed with this latest knowledge, I would advise extreme caution and suggest that we heed the words of warning from Leg-Iron.
If we do riot, there won’t be one.
This Government is looking for a fight. Don’t give it to them.
This trend needs to be discussed at the highest levels, the very idea that the Government is plotting against its own people is repugnant in the extreme, and I would like to call for confirmation that this disgusting process of briefings is indeed being undertaken.
UPDATE:
The Daily Express is reporting.
The “double-whammy” of the worst economic crisis in living memory and a motley crew of political extremists determined to stir up civil disorder has led to the extraordinary step of the Army being put on standby.
The Questions that really needs to be asked here is this.
Is the Army legally entitled to support a Government no longer wanted by the people?.
Would the Army comply with such orders on the British Mainland?
I want to know exactly what this Government has planned for Military deployments in the UK, and whether they would be deployed against their own citizens.
It is known that many of the senior personnel in the MoD have received Common Purpose training. The content and purpose of that secret training now needs explaining.
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April 26th, 2009 at 5:53 am
V For Vendetta time?
“Remember, remember, the fifth of November…”
April 26th, 2009 at 6:46 am
I live in Glasgow and I don’t think we would give a flying f*** what the army thinks or says we would more than put up any challenge to any army as we have done in the past.
Remember, remember don’t f**k with Scotland
Cause believe me if you kill even one of us we will actually anhialate any police officer or army that tries to do it again or force us into some police state.
The worst thing we could do is not riot.
Remember when America had its civil war, they lost alot of battles but kept persistant in attack. They eventually won and so will we. Britain is also pretty over populated. For a small country. So a few thousand police ain’t gonna help the government to be honest, especially when the people wake up.
RightofRush Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Remember Stirling Bridge and be strong.
Airborne Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Long Live the IRA , remember guns are for kids !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 7:31 am
This is far from settled in the US but with all the foreigners in the service these days it will not be an issue here. They will absolutely fire on the public when ordered.
The only problem is the public can still fire back and there ate still a lot of us than there are of them!
April 26th, 2009 at 7:51 am
“Americans will die in their sleep”
April 26th, 2009 at 8:04 am
More police need to take responsibility by reporting this kind of seditious treason. Asking a military to fire on it’s own citizens is totally the mark of tyranny. Unfortunately, the way these things are staged, they will continue to back the citizens into a corner until there is little or no choice left but to be a slave to evil or fight back.
Since knowledge is power, there is still hope in waking people up, and uniting in solidarity against the real enemy- megarich against poor/middle classes. As long as people continue to allow secrecy in their governments, this stuff will always happen.
Chris Diminie Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 10:50 am
The problem I see is Police and Military take an Oath, and then the rest of their training is obedience training. They don’t know if their job is to fulfill their oath or if their job is to follow orders.
To police and military personnel: Your job is not to follow orders!!
RightofRush Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Have you noticed that the sholder patches worn by the armed forces show disrepect for our flag? When not displayed on a staff, the starry field should always be on its own right when displayed. When worn on the right shoulder, the starry fienld is on its left.
Could this be a message that if the armed forces don’t respect their flag, perhaps the Constitution may not be respected as well.
Derek Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 5:31 am
i have noticed that. the US armed forces wear backwards flags on their right shoulder. i asked a soldier one time why he had a backwards flag on his uniform and his reply was that it means they always move forward and never retreat or something like that. i didn’t buy it and thought it was just some lame excuse the military tells the soldiers should they ask. why can’t the flag be on the left shoulder where it would be in it’s right direction and still face forward?
April 26th, 2009 at 8:06 am
Bullshit… The Government wants you to fight, but we shouldn’t give it to them. Complete and utter bullshit. When the British wanted us to fight, we fought… harder and more valiantly than many ever would, and thought this staged rebellion, real change happened.
“They tell us Sir, that we are weak — unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak, if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature has placed in our power.”
Patrick Henry
So, stand up… and fight the bastards already, what the hell are you waiting for?
gunner Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
As an American Citizen, I can tell Obama… Yes we can fire on our military, and police, when a tyrannical government intends on disarming the American People.
Shoot anyone, and I do mean ANYONE who attempts to disarm the American people… YES WE CAN… better yet, YES WE WILL!
Fox Spirit Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 1:36 am
I find the chances of disarmament very unlikely. Good luck getting guns out of the American Mid-West. There are a lot of gun owners around the Mid-West for the express reason of shooting your food. In economic hardship, around these parts, we consider hunting, fishing, and small scale farming for our survival. It’s difficult to peel out of a man’s hands his very livelihood when he can kill you with it and they understand it. If I remember correctly, in Missouri the flash suppressor ban had expired even. I’m not sure if it has been voted back in yet.
RightofRush Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
…for you to take off your coat.
April 26th, 2009 at 8:36 am
The very fact that they’re asking this shows that it’s a possibility.
Such horrible times that we live in.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Too bad you Brit’s allowed all of your guns to be taken away. Now you know why we cheerish our gun rights here in America. Our leftist-liberals want to disarm us too, so far we have been able to keep this from happening. It was never about hunting or target shooting!, You need to get your gun rights back, arm yourself to protect yourself from the government, illegal and militant Islamofascist types, armed criminals and from the potential future that will be full of roving bands of lawless types wanting to steal YOUR food, kill YOU, and rape YOUR women.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Thing is you may have gun rights Mr Snoopy but you people wont use them will you? a perfect example of this is Katrina when the police and army just waltz’ed in and taken your guns off you and not one repeat not one shot was fired in anger so if you got guns but your frightened to use them then you are just as dis-armed has us Brits.
Alex (not Jones) Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Ruby Ridge and Waco are 2 examples although not with good results. But in a large scale collapse I think American citizens will defend themselves. The Feds will be incapable of handling 1000 Ruby Ridge scenarios at one time
During Katrina they were not able to disarm everyone however, I know personally 3 families that resisted the confiscation and they tell me in some cases entire neighborhoods stood down the police and sent them packing. It’s just the news never reported on that. MOst who lost the guns were taken by surprise. Once the word got out it pretty much ended.
RightofRush Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:06 am
In WWII, your namesake was a facist stooge. Are you as well?
April 26th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Anyone remember that scene in “Platoon” where one Sergeant shoots a villager and then another Sergeant walks up and socks him in the face with the butt of his M-16?
“You’re NOT A FIRING SQUAD you piece of sh*t!”
I’m thinking we’re going to see a lot of that. Many many soldiers (and police) know the difference between right and wrong.
rich Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
good comment
i think inaction is better than direct action.
country wide strikes. with holding of tax.
if the bulk hold out long enough wonder how the gov would last with reduced tax income.
just another awakening prole Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 8:57 am
i agree Chris, i have brothers in both the army and police and both there for the right reasons. they’re also both in positions of command and respected for their competence and leadership skills and, as such, i believe that neither of them would obey nor give any order to open fire on the people – especially as they know that i may well be one of the people they’re ordered to open fire on!
i think one of the things that all governments are hoping to rely upon is for the training of all army and other civil enforcement agents to follow orders to take precedence over their inborn knowing of what is right and wrong and i think that, for the majority, the latter will overcome the former.
more and more of these wonderful people are waking up to the state of things and are, in many cases, even more pissed off with things than the rest of us as they realize that they have been duped even more than we have and when this hits a critical mass, the entire control apparatus will collapse like the house of cards it is.
really though, it’s time for us all to wake up and take responsibility for ourselves, our communities, our environment and ultimately Mother Earth.
the destiny of the human race is way beyond even our wildest imaginations but only we can make it so by choosing the correct path.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Awareness is the answer, not guns. If we descend into violence, we will eventually climb back up a pile of bodies, returning to where we are right now. Use the weapon of your minds! Wake up your Friends and Family and teach them! VIOLENCE IS FOR COWARDS!
They want to control us with the Fear of Death, as they use Terrorists and Disease and Global Warming, all things we cannot defend against. It’s just a trick being played by the Media!
THEY CANNOT WIN IF WE DON”T LET THEM!
Our Fear is the only power they have. ALL of their plans depend on it.
mars Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 3:19 am
The trouble is a lot of people are too dependent on the system and have been hypnotized that they got to have the latest trends, they have their houses, cars, televisions, cell phones, make up, jewellery, junk food, ipods, cds, dvds, etc and to maintain these they go to work(enslavement) and makes $$$$s for their masters, pay for their prisons. the best way to hurt them is to be prepared – mentally, physically annd spiritually to give up the things we don’t actually need (how many of you can do this??) and don’t go to work – that is a real revolution and that is what the Elite fear – that we are not dependent on the system which in reality they depend on us more than we depend on them. But just how many of you are ready to give up your materialist way of life? You keep on buying stuff you don’t need, working to your grave – what good is all these things when your dead and is it really worth it?
Col Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 3:53 am
I very much agree with this as I know it from experience.
All my life I’ve felt that there’s something majorly wrong, that we don’t have any freedom and it’s all a false idea of freedom, when in reality we’re all taught through childhood and school that all we’re here to do is go out and get a job for the rest of your life (read: be a slave)
It’s because I knew that deep down back then that I wouldn’t go to school wherever I could get out of it (causing much hassle and trouble at home and with the people in power back then) and the same has happened to me in “work” too. I tried to force myself into the system because all my family and friends knew nothing else and convinced me that there was something wrong with me for not fitting in with the masses. So for years I attempted to force myself to be “normal” and go to work like all the rest….but I just can’t do it. It doesn’t and never will sit right that as a human being with supposed free will, I have to accept and force myself into slavery until I’m deemed old enough to retire, which usually isn’t far away from when I’ll die (assuming I make it that long of course.)
What’s the point in that? Why is it that I’ve been on about this with people I know for years and yet still 99.9% think I’m weird or deluded or I have some major psychological problems? Why is it so damn accepted that we’re just slaves and that’s it. Where’s the freedom in that? Are you free in your 9-5 Monday to Friday job? Sat in rush hour giving yourself an early heart attack from stress and desperately trying not to want to kill yourself in some way to avoid the mundane existance you have?
But no of course people just put up with it “that’s just life” is what I’m told. Well if that’s life then count me out because I’m not capable of doing it like that. If that’s my life then I don’t want it. I’ll never accept being a slave in misery for the next 30-35 years whilst I desperately pine for weekends to get pissed out of my mind and dread Monday coming again.
My point is (took me a while but I do have one!) how do you do what you’re saying and take yourself out of it? I’ve ended up buying and borrowing to buy a shedload of material things because it was the only thing that made me happy over the years. I’ve struggled with all this and my only answer was to keep on building a vast collection of stuff that I could hide myself away with. I don’t work now and haven’t for the last 2 years due to illness and my realisation that illness was caused by me trying to force myself again into doing things I don’t want or accept. But it is only through family that I’m able to have a roof over my head and all that. Without them I’d be broke and I have no clue what I’d do. So that’s what’s making me ill right now and worrying me sick. I totally agree with you about letting go of things we don’t need and NOT working in some slave job making these people money whilst you scrape by in misery. But how are you going to manage to live, eat and sleep without living on the streets?
I totally support what you’re saying but I’m genuinely asking how do you do it? Because right now that’s my biggest fear and problem. I know I can’t force myself into the system, my health can’t even take it anymore, mentally or physically. But it feels like at some point when I can no longer rely on other people I’m going to be left with that same old choice again (or even not have one) and that scares me as I know if I’m left with that then I fear I just won’t be able to cope and want to be here again.
April 26th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Interesting read. Not supprising with the way things are going more power more power. thats all the govt want. no way is that gunna happen!!
One thing dont write this article then stick some stock market add in. come on the current system is responsable for this mess dont support that too. makes no sense. get it together really….
April 26th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
A few days before I visited, the stones had been splattered with polyurethane and spray-painted with graffiti, including slogans like “Death to the new world order.” This defacement was the first serious act of vandalism in the Guidestones’ history, but it was hardly the first objection to their existence. In fact, for more than three decades this uncanny structure in the heart of the Bible Belt has been generating responses that range from enchantment to horror. Supporters (notable among them Yoko Ono) have praised the messages as a stirring call to rational thinking, akin to Thomas Paine’s The Age of Reason. Opponents have attacked them as the Ten Commandments of the Antichrist.
April 26th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Since these NWO organs are part of the military complex that [according to it's own documents ]DOD in america and britian were getting ready for “30 years of riots”since well before 911,they are expecting what they refer to in their documents as “flash mobs”so any large groups of unhappy public/tourists they, are prepared for.But what if one person acting on their own went out with a gallon of petrol one night and burnt down a big bank,then other’s could get the message on the next days news and say…go and burn down a round -up ready company or a transnational company building close to home…before you know it you would have one man riots all across the planet/america,acting independantly from each other but together,if you get the idea,they are set up to fight large mobs but cannot track a guy/gal going for a drive with a can of petrol who would rather watch flames than tv ,what a scenario for a science fiction book….
thc Reply:
April 28th, 2009 at 2:11 am
i think riot 4 One is a plant, a fake, a troll. he’s trying to garner incriminating responses. are you a cop don’t believe you can post that message and still be walking the streets. remember, everything is being monitored now. we have to watch out for fakes on these blogs. as far as guns go, if the s*%t hits the fan, our government will be using the foreign troops that have been training for this since 9/11. by the way, the foreign troops that will work for your own government against you wouldn’t hesitate to shoot us damned americans. so think about that when they come for your guns.
good luck everyone.
April 26th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Where are the mothers and wives of the military personnel? They alone can stop this by telling their men to stand down and not kill their own people.
RightofRush Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 12:04 am
Do think that this will work with UN troops from Turkey? The NWO will not take chances.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
To say NOT to fight is to accept tyranny. Though death and lack of elections may be the immediate result, the end result of rioting and fighting for liberty would be liberty itself. To deny this is to deny history and to deny freedom. Fight for liberty by violence and this will force all persons to make a stand. The “powers” that be cannot oppress without the consent of the people. This includes the military. This would force all to make a stand. All persons have had an opportunity to know the truth about their governments, so no one has any excuse anymore. To be ignorant anymore is to be willfully so. That is no excuse at all, in fact, that is treasonous in any times. Fight on for liberty, for only by dying for liberty is any man ever free.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
society.
April 27th, 2009 at 12:11 am
Fuck the army!
Bunch of brainwashed tits anyway.
Let them shoot but one person and Britain goes up in flames.
Trust me.
The British are an intensely violent people.
Read our history.
good point but... Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 2:42 am
This is a nice notion, but consider the increasing acceptance of government lies, double standards and attacks on our essential rights. A LOT of British people sense that something is wrong, but still these good people are outnumbered by the dozy believers in media lies that would probably “obey” a soldier telling them what to do on the streets of their own town if the BBC told them to cooperate. Anyway, the manslaughter of an innocent bystander at the G20 summit by a policeman, which was caught on video, has provoked little more than programmed “he was stupid to be there in the first place” reactions from the “if you have nothing to hide..” herd. As an Englishman I am increasingly shocked to discover that most of my countrymen are indeed not just asleep, but will bleat on me for pointing out obvious, demonstrable truths that do not fit with their programmed comfort zone: ANY questioning of government = “conspiracy theories” and any “conspiracy theory” = stupid paranoia, weirdo, get out more, put more drinking photos on facebook.
People no longer discern between facts and theories, rather they just react predictably according to the latest headlines in their media pill of choice (”lower classes”= sun newspaper, “middle classes”= telegraph, and so on..) While these news sources maintain petty squabbles and sensationalist, reactionary reporting about non-issues, heinous crimes against the people are perpetrated every day in Whitehall and Brussels, which filters down to us as restricted freedoms, increasingly thick and irrational police officers that do not understand their role or powers (let alone the law) and a funny feeling of “it´s getting hot in here”..
sorry for the long post, I´m taking my mind of back pain with some frantic, reactionary typing!
April 27th, 2009 at 2:41 am
@Alex(not)Jones sez “The only problem is the public can still fire back and there are still a lot of us than there are of them!”
Sure, that sounds good but consider – you may have very effective hand weapons and enough ammunition but THEY have Big Bombs.
So what’s the point (apart from population decimation) of armed resistance? Sustained, Intelligent resistance would produce a better long term result.
It would help if we focused on bringing the arch-criminals to trial.
j Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 3:52 am
But, in order to bring the arch-criminals to trial, you need to get by their armies first (i.e. the police). You can’t honestly believe, at this point in time, that you can just get a ground swell of people asking for the criminal trial of Bush, Blair & Co and get it, do you?
April 27th, 2009 at 5:42 am
if they try to contain the people in the uk anymore they will have a war…. we are many they are few…… and yes we are a troublesome lot …. and have your wits about you and remember to look your enemy in the eye ..when you tell him to get to ****
April 27th, 2009 at 6:58 am
Nothing will happen. I have lived in Britain for years as a North American and can tell you it is true the British are violent people, but violent in a vile and pathetic and cowardly way: getting drunk and beating on each other, or bullying somebody who is different. They never, ever use violence as an intelligent political act. It is not part of the culture and most of the people are thicker than two planks of wood. Give them TV, tits and two-pound curry nights, and they will be kept happyish (because nobody in Britain is really happy).
currie-uk Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Not all of can be categorised in this fashion you describe. I don’t get drunk and beat on people. Neither does any of my family. I resent your blanket judgement. I agree their is rising underclass and most are short in the social skills dept.
Punchy UK Reply:
April 27th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Had a few beatings Frank? You might want to wind your neck in then…oh and f**k off somewhere else.
just another awakening prole Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 10:03 am
not sure why I’m even dignifying this one with a response, but here goes.
I am a human fortunate enough to live on this beautiful piece of land called England, Planet Earth and I know and have met others from all different walks of life and I find that most, with the exception of the sociopaths and psychopaths whom hold the reigns of power, regardless of any discriminatory label attached to them, are decent, peace loving people who want only clean air and water to breathe and drink, healthy food to eat, decent shelter, a warm, loving and supportive family and community network which works for the benefit of all rather than for the benefit of the controlling few and a healthy, abundant environment.
I have spent years of my life travelling around the world living in every type of community imaginable and almost everyone I’ve met holds the same beliefs and values deep down and this is what unites us as human beings instead of dividing us down the lines of race, colour, religion and class etc. this is how we have all been enslaved since the dawn of patriarchal civilization but we now live within the greatest window of opportunity for spiritual evolution that humankind has ever seen but the trick is to wake up to and manifest this truth and only then will we all know the Oneness of All That Is, and the fighting will be over, forever,
April 27th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Remember what happened during Tianammen Square? The soldiers were drugged up to the eyeballs. This enabled them to kill their own citizens!
April 27th, 2009 at 11:34 am
How about here in America? Remember Rockefeller had people massacred in Colorado using the state guard (the Ludlow massacre). So troops will shoot Americans.
Nothing has changed.
April 27th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
The big problem is the lack of common culture to glue us all together for a common resistance. We are all so atomized into tens of millions of individuals that it would be impossible to form a consensus against our oligarchs. Our culture is the end-result of decades of nihilistic anomie that, again, it would be impossible to form a consensus of action against our domestic enemies.
We are all looking for that catalyzing event, that legitimate leader who can help us focus our anger and organize us in array against the oligarchs and their institutions of power. I’m sure many of you have heard the call to get behind the county sheriff. He is legitimate and he has the constitution on his side. But are there enough of them who understand their power and the times we are in? Even if they all know what time it is and can deputize enough men with adequate firearms skills, who and how can 3000+ sheriffs operate as a cohesive group without some kind of national leader to set the resistance agenda?
Alex Jones may not like this but, what he has started will have to be fulfilled by him. He can get a group of well-known patriots like Jack McLamb, well-known politicians like Ron Paul, and well-known intellectuals like Webster Tarpley, under him to act as advisors but, he cannot back away now and claim that he is only a source of info against the NWO. The finger of history is upon him and he will have to begin organizing those popular figures around him and prepare the patriots AND THE SHERIFFS for the inevitable, and hot, Second American Revolution.
April 27th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
“Naturally the common people don’t want war. But after all, it is the
leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it’s always a
simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy or a
fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.
Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of
the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are
being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
for exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every
country.”
— Hermann Goering,
April 27th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
They have started letting psychopaths into the army here in the states. They have lessened the standards and felons are now being let into the army. This is scary… They are most likely the ones to shoot unarmed citizens. Most of the people know better. They have to be worried to ask that, the USA is the most heavily armed continent in the world, they should be worried.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
The conditioning has now being going on for decades, through TV, through Hollywood, all those cop-heroes – culminating in Jack Bauer and torture-chic. Well now it comes to fruition, and the question is: How many of us have been made dumb and docile by the conditioning? My guess: No where near as many as they think.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Except when an army is raised to fight an invasion, armies exist for only one reason, and that certainly isn’t to benefit the general population that provides the bodies that fill the uniforms.
Masters cannot master without a ‘fist’ that every slave knows will smash into their face if they dare to step out of line. When a World War approaches, step one is for the master to examine the ‘fist’, and ensure it is up the coming job. THE JOB, OF COURSE, IS TO ENSURE THAT ANTI-WAR VOICES ARE SILENCED AS RUTHLESSLY AS POSSIBLE.
Did Hitler’s German population wish to invade Poland, and trigger WW2? Did they hell! So, why did the population of Germany do nothing to stop Hitler? Because by the time 1939 arrived, the German population were well aware of the forces that Hitler had at his disposal to quell domestic disturbances. Remember, even if Hitler had some significant popularity, his plans for greater conflict in Europe (beyond the easy invasions of germanic ‘homelands’ earlier) had none.
Does Tony “Hitler II” Blair’s preparation for blood on UK streets mean this will happen? Well, only if a lesson needs to be taught to the sheep, otherwise such preparation is purely precautionary- a ‘reasonable’ plan for possible backlash when Blair’s true intentions become (more) apparent.
In truth, Blair has the british sheep just where he needs them. The sheep are aware of the horrors happening in the UK, but choose to respond by losing themselves further in booze, mindless spending, and soap/reality TV shows.
April 27th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
One is responsible for one’s own actions. There is NO excuse of “I was just only following orders!” At all. Ever. Period. No wiggle room. Not even a decillionth of an angstrom’s worth of wiggle room.
If you do evilness, only you and you alone are responsible for the fact that you did. No one else. If you do evilness, you become evilness. Permanently. Forever. The stain of your dishonor can never be scrubbed away. And even if you tried to paint the stain over, it will still be there. No amount of spin doctoring can make being dishonorable any less than what it already is.
I’m not going to do the sobbing, crying, tearful and sorrowing mother routine for those who prove themselves to be evilness. I’m not a she entity. And I’m not the mommy of anyone, ever. I’m not a she entity. I have no ability to be the mommy of anyone, ever. I regard evilness strictly with cold-blooded and unforgiving male eyes.
Humans, aliens, inter-dimensional beings… I don’t care. Evilness is evilness, irrelevant as to who does it. Evilness screws up everything.
April 27th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
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April 28th, 2009 at 1:25 am
Would you want the Army to protect your family and property from a bunch of thugs and rapist’s during time of civil crisis ?
’serve and protect’
There are serious rules of engagement even in Afghanistan…..
So to think a solider would shoot a fellow countryman is a wreckless comment, soliders are actually allowed to disobey orders that are morally wrong, and ‘values and standards’ are a fundamental part of training in the 21st century.
In times of civil crisis would you be greatful for the extra security and manpower ??
Happy Days……….
April 28th, 2009 at 2:48 am
Col mankind has never been free .what is freedom? for the past thousands of years, till today weve allowed ourselves to be enslaved by other men. i havent, nature is my only commander.before all that man worked(hunted,built) to feed and shelter himself and his fellow tribesmen/family. today i do the same just with a 21st century twist.but in my own time im out away from it all in the country. go fishing (catch and release),bird watching,stalk large animals and photograph them, climb rocks ,just get back to nature its a thrill .its also the closest to real freedom you can get.it certainally clears my mind of all the crap going on in the world.and when i come back im more determend to fight because its defintley worth fighting for.
April 29th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
There are 12 Million ex Veterans in the US and they are all well armed.
The Government would not stand a chance. These soldiers are well informed of what is going on in the US and Great Briton.
They cant fight ex soldiers when we are in small groups and win.
Organize now is my only suggestion, because its just around the corner by these pricks.