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‘YouTube’ gunman was set free by police to go on school rampage
DAILY MAIL
Tuesday, September 23, 2008
At least eleven people have been killed this morning after a gunman opened fire at a school in Finland.
The student, wearing a black hood and armed with an automatic weapon, is said to have started shooting at a college for adults in the town of Kauhajoki just before 11am (8am GMT) today.
In a horrifying twist, he is said to have been held and questioned by police on Monday before being set free to go on his rampage.
It is believed he became a person of interest to police after posting video footage of himself on YouTube foreshadowing the shooting spree.
He was released because there were no legal grounds to hold him, Finland’s Interior Minister Anne Holmlund said.
Named locally as 22-year-old Maati Saari, he was rushed to the hospital alive after trying to shoot himself in the head, but died in hospital.
It is unclear whether the death toll of eleven people included the gunman.
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A fire had broken out at the school but has now been extinguished. Finnish news agency STT said that Saari possibly had explosives on him.
In a chilling echo of last year’s Jokela high school massacre that shocked Finland, the gunman is said to have posted video of himself firing a handgun on YouTube.
Video footage of a man who posted under the name Wumpscut86 and who last visited the YouTube site an hour before the shooting has now been removed.
The YouTube clips show a young man wearing a leather jacket firing several shots in rapid succession with a Walther P22 handgun at what appears to be a shooting range.
There were four of the clips, all running for about thirty seconds, posted between three weeks and five days before the shooting.
The user’s profile included the words: “And suddenly there was war and the mothers they screamed. For revenge and reprisals for another war.”
Another quote read: “Whole life is war and whole life is pain. And you will fight alone in your personal war.”
Clips from the 1999 Columbine school shootings in Colorado were listed among the poster’s favorite videos.
The Finnish government has confirmed the shooter posted on YouTube. The clips have since been removed.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 10:40 am
Columbine, Virginia Tech , Jokela etc., here we go again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDTKeD6P0nk
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:45 am
Slightly off topic, but you might find it interesting that Finland’s prime minister’s father – Prof. Tatu Vanhanen – is a known racialist here in Finland… coincedence?… Right…
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:58 am
Yep, pretty much couldnt have said it any better.
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:53 am
In Canada we had another Greyhound incident. The knife attacker on the Greyhound bus yesterday was said by other riders to have been PUT ON THE BUS by the police.
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Come talk about the world.
This is insanity.
Illuminati need to be discovered.
http://illumatrix.proboards105.com/index.cgi
Your words count.
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September 23rd, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Hey David, any direct links to the story where it says police was involded?
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:28 pm
The guy was a copycat loon, probably fully stuffed with psychotropic drugs, yes.
AND he had been spotted beforehand because he fit 100% into the usual pattern (= loner, gun freak, listens to music with violent lyrics, has a fave for school shootings, talks about killing people on the net etc.).
The police spotted him, interrogated him. They did their job well. But then probably some higher up came and said “Let him go. That’s an order”.
And all they had to do then was waiting… Now they can do the usual problemreactionsolution and go after guns and internet freedom. But that won’t prevent the next shooting either. And it doesn’t have to. They WANT crises. They NEED crises.
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Well, gun-control certainly isn’t the answer. Take away all the citizen’s guns then all the nutcase has to do is find other means to cause carnage. I could list a half-dozen ways to kill lots of people and commit suicide after the fact off the top of my head, but I don’t want to give any mental-cases ideas. Take away all the citizen’s guns and all you need to have lots and lots and lots of killin’ is a nutcase at the head of the government.
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Violence is not the answer. We need to unite and repeal parts or all of the Patriot Act. To be more specific, let the nation take care of these loonies. If you or I were in the violent situation this gun nut was in we would have excersised our rights under the second Amendment and Taken this Puke out!!!
Oh I meant, talked him into a counslers office. Please excuse me.
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Violence is not the answer. We need to unite and repeal parts or all of the Patriot Act. To be more specific, let the nation take care of these loonies. If you or I were in the violent situation this gun nut was in we would have excersised our rights under the second Amendment and Taken this Puke out!!!
Oh I meant, talked him into a counslers office. Please excuse me. I guess I lost my head!!!!
September 23rd, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Finland has not moved fast enough in bringing its gun laws into compliance with the rest of the EU. That’s why they got hit again. Such random-rage shootings are many times the work of the covert operators in the nation’s police/intelligence/military branches. That’s where you will find the genesis of this one, too.
September 23rd, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Hi we had port arthur masacare in australia this was a false flag
We now have no guns now
Martin byrant who is accused of this event had a IQ of 66 about the age of an 11 year
He was accused of shooting 37 people with 45 bullets he would win a gold medal for being so accurate
This was a set up by our secret service
There was not trial no inquiry
and we were told by our govt that we should not question the event
Question this event do not accept what they say
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:39 pm
A true patriot, will not brag about taking arms to defend his country…..
A true patriot will empty his barrels at the appropriate time that his country needs him to….
without a wimper, with out a song, without a video confession….
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Did you know that in project Monarch, CIA assets along with ex-nazi scientists such as Dr. Joseff Mengele were trying to engineer the perfect assassins who would do the job and then terminate themselves leaving no trail to follow to the true consipritors. They figured out how to trigger, programed personalities through certain sounds or pictures or whatever. This is also done to many of the Illuminati and heads of state. Research Dr. Mengele and his employement in the CIA
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:08 pm
WAAA…
“They should have been able to arrest him and throw him in a jail cell without due process”
This is the agenda behind this Monarch OP
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:29 pm
This could be an excuse to bust out the pre-crime gadgets…
http://www.newscientist.com/bl.....0detection
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Yes all school school shooting are do to leather jackets and industrial techno.
But don’t think that prescription drugs had anything to do with this.
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:33 pm
“Flying Finn Says:Hey David, any direct links to the story where it says police was involded?”
You can see the story here:
http://www.canada.com/story.ht.....68471ae676
again the bus was headed to Winnipeg!
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:07 pm
Thanks Dave!
And by the way – Finland went thru a major (orchestrated) financial collapse in the 1990’s – it was a test-drive for the current global one – and the result was – among other things – that we joined the EU, had to accept the euro and that austerity (the IMF/Bilderbergs etc.) took over – the country got “americanized” – in many (bad) ways… though on the other hand Finland was considered already in the 1980’s (the time when the bubble, soon to be burst, was being inflated) to be the most american-style country in Europe… an overstatement, yes, but which I now start to believe was also done on purpose – part of the project, so to speak – as some people out there want Finland to be what it is turning into – a bad example within Europe… besides – it’s not the first time Finland is being used by both the fascists as well as the communist…. (communists+fascists=globalist, neofeudal, malthusian industrialists…)
September 24th, 2008 at 5:23 am
probably a mind controlled experiment gone 100% the way they wanted !!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8fgAS0w9Q8
September 24th, 2008 at 9:22 am
This will certainly lend creedence to the home-grown terrorism act and cencorship of youtube and the internet in general.
September 24th, 2008 at 9:30 am
smart. http://Allabouttruth.org
September 25th, 2008 at 1:45 am
When Jokela happened we told the authorities what prescription drugs JM ( Jokela Murderer ) had probably used based on experiences in the USA. We were 100% right. No info about drugs used by KM ( Kauhajoki Murderer ) YET; but they will be the same. mark my words. The government wants to ban handguns so they manipulate the situation to their advantage. They are focussing on SYMPTOMS; they need to focus on CAUSES. ANYONE applying for a Gun License needs to give permission for a check on what prescription drugs he /she is using and any illegal drug use ( or suspicion ) should be taken into account. Today anyone can learn to shoot with an air pistol, graduate to Air Soft and after proving themselves responsible for a few years ( to show it’s a serious hobby and not just a passing fad ) ; sure; give them a license to buy a target pistol ( how else do you win Olympic Gold Medals for shooting as we just did ?) . Pistols don’t kill people; twised human minds kill people. Some killers use cars, some use baseball bats; are the innocent responsible gun owners to be collectively punished for the crimes of two people who slipped through an inadequate Gun licensing system ? Isn’t collective punishment illegal ? When will the rest of us lose our cars AND our baseball bats ? And STOP USING THESE GUYS NAMES; PLEASE ! WHen youngsters see the “fame” these guys get; they want to copy them. So make them anonymous; refer to them as JM and KM and speak openly about their sexual inadequacy and inability to function in normal society. REMOVE the incentive to copy them and finally; don’t act so surprised; we Finns have removed God from our schools; WHY are we so surprised at ungodly conduct? Can’t they see the connection? Are the authorities REALLY that stupid ? If you want a moral and legal society where the individual is free to express himself in a secure environment, where kids can play safely in the park and where politicians can be trusted. Let’s address the CAUSE and go back to Christian values. ( Sorry liberals; your system has failed DISMALLY; we feel unsafe and confused: time to go back to a PROVEN system that has WORKED for hundreds of years) God bless! Mike