The Daily Caller 
June 7, 2018
Fox News host Tucker Carlson got into a heated debate with Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell Wednesday over whether or not there was a spy in the Trump campaign.
“What really bothers me is the Orwellian lying going on around this,” Carlson said.
Swalwell attempted to define spying as “what you do against an enemy,” to which Carlson responded that that is not always the case.
“No, you can spy on people you love, you can spy on your own children, it doesn’t need to be an enemy,” Carlson elaborated. “You’re expanding the definition into some made-up land.”
“Why is that not spying? If I am watching you without your knowledge, gathering information without your knowledge, don’t tell you about it, I’m spying on you,” Carlson stated.
The pair then continued the argument, with Swalwell saying the government should do everything it can to stop a potential adversary.